From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #123 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, March 20 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 123 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Tree Museum proposal ["gene mock" ] RE: dc joni fest? ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Sacrilege ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: NJC Re: Pink Moon ["John T. Folden" ] carnival in canora [mags h ] Re: DJRD on CD ["John T. Folden" ] Re: carnival in canora/Kenora [Gary Z ] Re: carnival in canora/Kenora ["Mark or Travis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:59:50 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Tree Museum proposal Thanks Warren, you put a lot of work and thought into this proposal. Bryan made a comment that we already have "tree museums" but their called arboretums/arboreta. Perhaps we should try to start a movement to rename arboreta to "tree museums" and if people would wish to donate a buck and a half so be it. Once again Warren, nice job. later gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Warren Smith To: gene mock Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:17 AM Subject: Re: Tree Museum proposal Attached gene mock wrote: i'm curious. please email me. thanks gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Smith" To: Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: Tree Museum proposal > I have a proposal for a large State Park to be designated "Tree Museum." Also, many smaller Tree Museums. > > Charge all the people a dollar and a half. Educate on Urban Sprawl. > > This will be a huge tribute to Joni's work. Lifetime achievement award. > > Upon your request, I will email a Word Document attachment of my proposal for your review, comments, and brainstorming ideas. Three pages of details plus some background pages. Too big to post here. > > I am working now on getting this proposal ready for consideration. Let's keep it within JMDL for now, not leaking it to the public until it is in a more final form. > > Let me know if you would like me to email the Tree Museum proposal to you. > > Warren > NJTreeMuseum@Yahoo.com > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:17:03 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: dc joni fest? I don't live in DC, but I'm from there. Since I'm driving up the coast to teach in Boston for the whole month of July, I was thinking I could stay up in my old hometown for a few days late in June. Any interest? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of jrmco1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:35 PM To: bill@blueandindigo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: dc joni fest? You're in DC, Bill? Coulda sworn you were a West Coastie. - -Julius - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Dollinger To: JMDL List Sent: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:08:18 -0500 Subject: dc joni fest? Richard Flynn and I were discussing how great it would be to have a mini joni fest in dc. I know we had mentioned this before but don't think anything was moving along. I know a great cafe that would host it, if people are interested, let's discuss. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:43:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Sacrilege >I don't necessarily know! I think I just find it twee and cliched and a bit dull. Because it is one of JM's "greatest" I often wonder why I don't like it so much but I can't quite put my finger on it.< thanks ric... I don't know if its one of her greatest as I guess that is really a subjective thing... I love it because the first time I heard it I had recently been to Woodstock & I was amazed at how she captured the experience & even more amazed that she was able to do so without having been there... similar I guess to neil young's ohio... anyway I am wondering if after all these years it sounds cliched... at the time it was a song that found the words to speak from the heart of many in my generation... this song to me underlies what a songwriting genius she is.. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:51:11 -0500 From: "John T. Folden" Subject: Re: NJC Re: Pink Moon On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Oh, OK...I didn't read it that way. Anyway, how could cast a non-Blue > vote? > > I don't know PM either, so there's your answer. Blue it is. > Well, I know PM and there's no comparison really. Someone else just recently was recommending Pink Moon to me and, honestly, I don't see the thrill. John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:55:48 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: carnival in canora Canuckian Catherine McKay wrote: <<>> nice grab there Catherine, makes sense that Canora is the Sask one...(closer to Joniland) anyone know for certain? Aforementioned north western Ontario Kenora is about 2 hours east of Winterpeg...and then there's another couple of hours just to the Saskatchewan border....how likely is it that Joni meant Kenora, Ont? btw, Winnipeg water tastes fine, especially in June ;-) Mags Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:04:10 -0500 From: "John T. Folden" Subject: Re: DJRD on CD On Mar 19, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Michael O'Malley wrote: > Like yourself, in my early twenties this album sounded a little too > experimental, dark and dissonant for my tastes. Today however it feels > very comfortable, like home. > I have always loved the line, ``If you got no place special, well my > dear, you just go no place special.`` Words to live by. I've always loved that line, as well. There's something terribly cute about the way she delivers it, too. ...and I've always loved DJRD. I remember checking out a vinyl copy from the local library back in 1985/86 when I was only 16 and listening to it, mesmerized. It has, without fail, remained my 2nd fave album behind HOSL all these years. Now, Blue on the other hand was an album that took a long time to sink in for me. There have always been tracks on there that I enjoyed but it, actually, wasn't until earlier this year that I really began to appreciate the depth of feeling behind songs like My Old Man or California after finally seeing Joni perform them in a 1970 TV appearance. It's odd, but almost sinfully delicious, how some songs don't hit you right away but sort of creep up on you over time. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:16:59 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: carnival in canora/Kenora Nope, looks like it's Kenora, Ontario.... JM: This is a song about a carnival in a place called Kenora, which really does exist. Kenora is in the province of Ontario. And I was inspired to write it when I really didn't know anything about the town. And I used to give all this folklore on stage, and it used to be all completely inaccurate, because I really didn't know anything about the town. All I ever saw of it was from a train window and I happened to be looking out of the side of the train that the town wasn't actually on, so all I saw was a sign that said "Kenora" and a big lake and big rocks and big trees and the lake was covered with pontoon planes. So I thought that was all that was there, you know. And I also thought that Kenora was an Indian word, and I used to tell people that it meant 'lake of many pontoon planes.' (Laughs.) That wasn't true either. And it turns out there actually is a town of Kenora. It has a population of 10,000 people and most important of all is that there is actually a carnival in Kenora which I didn't believe when I wrote the song either. " Here is the full text: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=608 Best regards, Gary mags h wrote: >Canuckian Catherine McKay wrote: > > ><<so-far-west-Ontario-it's-almost-Manitoba >http://www.city.kenora.on.ca/index.html, but there is also Canora in Saskatchewan (named for Canadian Northern >Railway) http://www.canora.com/ , "home of the best-tasting municipal >water in Canada".>>> > >nice grab there Catherine, makes sense that Canora is the Sask one...(closer to Joniland) anyone know for certain? Aforementioned north western Ontario Kenora is about 2 hours east of Winterpeg...and then there's another couple of hours just to the Saskatchewan border....how likely is it that Joni meant Kenora, Ont? > >btw, Winnipeg water tastes fine, especially in June ;-) > >Mags > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:39:27 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: carnival in canora/Kenora Gary Z wrote: > Nope, looks like it's Kenora, Ontario.... > > JM: This is a song about a carnival in a place called Kenora, which > really does exist. Kenora is in the province of Ontario. And I was > inspired to write it when I really didn't know anything about the > town. And I used to give all this folklore on stage, and it used to > be all completely inaccurate, because I really didn't know anything > about the town. All I ever saw of it was from a train window and I > happened to be looking out of the side of the train that the town > wasn't actually on, so all I saw was a sign that said "Kenora" and a > big lake and big rocks and big trees and the lake was covered with > pontoon planes. I wonder if that's where the pontoon planes reference comes from in 'Black Crow'. I have ridden in one once when my niece was visiting. You can pay to ride in a pontoon plane down on Lake Union in Seattle. It was fun! So much for 'Joni Mitchell never lies'! ;-) Mark E. in Seattle where it was actually raining today! woohoo! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #123 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)