From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #111 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, March 12 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 111 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC Re: Steely Dan's recent releases (sjc) ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Dan & Joni [ROBMSTEEN@aol.com] Re: njc, JMOCD at work again NJC [Jerry Notaro ] the stephen stills new baby thing (njc) [Brian Gross ] RE: Songs of a prairie girl ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC Re: Steely Dan's recent releases(sjc) [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] Re: Songs of a prairie girl [Robert Procyk ] RE: NJC root vegetables, blizzards and queens OH MY!!! njc ["Patti Parlet] Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC definitely now Folk Progeny ["Kate Be] Kings of Convenience, Feist, Sylvester, and Dominic Serena (sjc) [Justali] RE: njc, JMOCD at work again ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: Kings of Convenience, Feist, Sylvester, and Dominic Serena (sjc) ["A] Re: njc, JMOCD at work again ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Stills (NJC) [Randy Remote ] Re: njc, JMOCD at work again ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, JMOCD at work again ["McMillan Brad" ] Quote about Canada - njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: NJC News Flash! Smurf is a producer...of Joni Covers! ["ron" ] Re: NJC News Flash! Smurf is a producer...of Joni Covers! [Smurf ] RE: Stills (NJC) ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC iPod question NJC ["ron" ] Re: NJC News Flash! Smurf is a producer...of Joni Covers! [Bob Muller ] RE: Stills (NJC) ["Richard Flynn" ] Joni on Idol [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Melanie NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Stills (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Stills (NJC) ["ron" ] Re: album poll [John Sprackland ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:19:20 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: NJC Re: Steely Dan's recent releases (sjc) >>Becker's a fine bassist and co-composer, but his vocals are awful. One listen to "11 Tracks of Whack" and you immediately know why he didn't sing any SD songs. << Bob, are you forgetting about the Dan's wonderful 'Alive in America' album where Becker sings 'Book of Liars'? Not bad, IMO, but he's no DF. I agree that 'Nightfly' is wonderful, as is 'Two Against Nature', although I think 'Kamakiriad' also has its moments, tho' fewer than I'd like. mike in barcelona NP Janis Ian - Searching for America ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:26:21 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: re: root vegetables, blizzards and queens OH MY!!! njc >>...Whilst this is happening grate a pile of good stilton cheese (a blue tangy cheese from England) you probably have something like it over there... or something stilton-esque... and put some really nice bread rolls into a low oven to heat through.<< For all you people who can't find Stilton, we have a wonderful cheese from the north of Spain, Asturias actually (hi em, ever tired this?), which will do at a pinch. The smell and flavour is, how shall I put it, a little ripe for many tastes, but I love it. Anyone out there know it? I may bring some to jonifrance if I can find a trailer to tow behind the car. It's the type of cheese that infects everything else in the fridge. Recommended. mike in bcn np - still Janis Ian - welcome to acousticville ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:28:44 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: re: root vegetables, blizzards and queens OH MY!!! njc The Asturian cheese is called 'cabrales', btw, (secretarial error) mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: NJC Re: Steely Dan's recent releases mike pritchard wrote: I never picked up that disc, but Book of Liars isn't a Dan tune, it's a Becker tune from 11 Tracks of Whack. It would be the same as Fagen singing IGY or something, I wouldn't call that a SD song either. I do agree with you however about Kamakiriad, I like Yesterday's Girls & Snow Bound, but after that it blurs into sameness & obscurity. Without looking I'd be hard-pressed to tell you any other song titles. Happy Friday all! Bob NP: Son Volt, "Streets That Time Walks" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:27:33 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs of a prairie girl You can take the girl out of the prairie, but you can't take the prairie out of the girl. Whatever she writes about, the prairie is bound to be there. Javex bottles, OK, but .... tide? In Saskatchewan? LOL! Rob & Tracy wrote: Hey, waaay behind on digests, but just seeing this Songs of a Prairie Girl posts showing up. [...] the references to Maidstone, the coyote running through the whisker wheat, floating javex bottles, etc.... Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:35:13 EST From: ROBMSTEEN@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan & Joni Justalittlebreen@aol.com wrote: > Hi gang, > > With all this talk about the Dan and Joni, I'm surprised no one has > brought up the fact that, just as many people think Joni retired > after Hejira or DJRD or what have you, F&B both continued to make > music, although not much or often -- Fagin's Nightfly (1982?), I > think, is a masterpiece -- they both put out one album apiece in the > early-ish 90's (F's "Kamakiriad" and B's "Eleven Whack s.t." -- has > anybody ever heard either of these? Kamakiriad was a sci-fi-ish thematic record of varying excellence, peaking with the likes of Tomorrow's Girls (chirpy anti-Stepford Wives-type thang and big non-hit), Florida Room (cocktail jazz par excellence) and Teahouse on the Tracks (a cheerier alternative to Countdown to Ecstasy's magnificent King of the World, still my fave Dan track alongside Your Gold Teeth II)- not quite as varied or good as the resplendent Nightfly but still better than 90% of albums released in the 90s. 11 Tracks of Whack showcased Becker's deep n growly voice for the first time, and contained a couple of crackers, and hinted that the scabrous nature of the Dan lyrics were more down to him, but was otherwise a bit flat. I suspect he needed Don more than vice-versa. Then again, he had suffered a horrible car accident and been sued for allegedly causing the death (through drugs) of a former teenage girlfriend (the case never got anywhere that I know of). As for the later Dan output, although Two Against Nature richly deserved its Grammy, and Almost Gothic was as good a song as the duo ever penned, imho Everything Must Go was far more cogent and lyrically & musically intriguing. More soulful and just as clever-clever. Things I Miss Ther Most is as good a song about the practicalities and realities of a breakup as I've ever heard from a man's perspective. Rob Steen 3 Langton Terrace Falmouth, Cornwall TR11 2NA 01326 316289 (h) 07813 668726 (mob) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:49:09 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: njc, JMOCD at work again NJC > Mark or Travis wrote: > > Nah, I was just goofing around. Now, if I had pulled the feather boa out of my > filing cabinet and broken out in a one-man tour-de-force performance of > Gypsy...different story. And if there was ever a straight man who knew every word, it would be you! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:00:21 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: the stephen stills new baby thing (njc) >>A 60-year-old man went to the doctor for a check-up. The doctor told him, "You're in terrific shape. There's nothing wrong with you. Why, you might live forever. You have the body of a 35 year old. By the way, how old was your father when he died?" The 60 year old responded, "Who said he was dead?" The doctor was surprised and asked, "How old is he and is he very active?" The 60 year old responded, "Well, he is 82 years old and he still goes skiing three times a season and surfing three times a week during the summer." The doctor couldn't believe it. "Well, how old was your grandfather when he died?" The 60 year old responded again, "Who said he was dead?" The doctor was astonished. He said, "You mean to tell me you are 60 years old and both your father and your grandfather are alive? Is your grandfather very active?" The 60 year old said, "He goes skiing at least once a season and surfing once a week during the summer. Not only that," said the patient, "my grandfather is 106 years old, and next week he is getting married again." The doctor said, "At 106 years old, why on earth would your grandfather want to get married?" His patient looked up at the doctor and said, "Who said he wanted to?" Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Inner Peace (no Joni content) Just received on the fax machine this morning: "Inner Peace I am passing this on to you because it definitely worked for me and we all could use more calm in our lives. By following the simple advice I heard on a Dr. Phil show, I have finally found inner peace. Dr. Phil proclaimed the way to achieve inner peace was to finish all the things you have started. So I looked around my house to see things I started and hadn't finished; and before leaving the house this morning I finished off a bottle of Merlot ,a bottle of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Baileys, a bottle of Kahlua, a package of Oreos, the remainder of both Prozac and Valium prescriptions, the rest of the cheesecake, some Saltines and a box of chocolates. You have no idea how freaking good I feel. Please pass this on to those you feel are in need of inner peace." And on that note, I wish you all a great Friday and a Shabbat Shalom. Brian in south jersey, where rain and snow are expected today. Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:13:41 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Songs of a prairie girl We know that that song evokes Sechelt, B.C. just like the bumping of the logs. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:28 AM To: Rob & Tracy; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Songs of a prairie girl You can take the girl out of the prairie, but you can't take the prairie out of the girl. Whatever she writes about, the prairie is bound to be there. Javex bottles, OK, but .... tide? In Saskatchewan? LOL! Rob & Tracy wrote: Hey, waaay behind on digests, but just seeing this Songs of a Prairie Girl posts showing up. [...] the references to Maidstone, the coyote running through the whisker wheat, floating javex bottles, etc.... Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:41:04 -0500 From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Steely Dan's recent releases(sjc) SJ Joni Bob said: <> Ouch. Yeah, he sings one on "Everything Must Go", and he sounds like... well, he sounds like *me* singing (my father was an Irish tenor, but I got my face and my croaking voice from my Grampa Archambault, yes, a French croaker rather than an Irish crooner). best, walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:25:56 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: Re: Songs of a prairie girl LOL, yeah, I didn't explain that one - whenever I hear the line about the javex bottles, it always reminds me of when we moved to Saskatchewan from B.C. - the big "draw" to get me here without having a nervous breakdown was that we'd buy a cabin at the lake, and indeed, the lake was the only thing that kept my sanity in my early teen years. Anyway, each year, we'd mark a swimming area with javex bottles, and the big game would be to swim out to them and dare someone to touch them (they ended up as, well, bird toilets, let's just say....) Sadly, the cabin is gone, and the lake is half-dried up, but I still drive out there every couple of years and have a Wonder Year's moment. Happy weekend y'all - freezing rain and light snow forecast for lovely Sask. today... Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine McKay Date: Friday, March 11, 2005 6:27 am Subject: Re: Songs of a prairie girl > You can take the girl out of the prairie, but you can't take the > prairie out of the girl. Whatever she writes about, the prairie is > bound to be there. > > Javex bottles, OK, but .... tide? In Saskatchewan? LOL! > > Rob & Tracy wrote: > > Hey, waaay behind on digests, but just seeing this Songs of a > Prairie Girl posts showing up. > > [...] the references to Maidstone, the coyote running through the > whisker wheat, floating javex bottles, etc.... > > > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:16:57 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: NJC root vegetables, blizzards and queens OH MY!!! njc Belated bonne anniversaire, Queen Lulu! When a b/day message is late, it just means that you have to celebrate ALL YEAR LONG, so I hope you do. I have a feeling you will! Your parsnip puree/soup recipe sounds wonderful. I'd like to come up to your kitchen, so you can show me your best recipes. (Uh oh.....here we go again!) I never thought of cooking my onions "gently", but from hereafter I will always cook them gently, and think of you! In fact, I will sing ad alta voce: "Cook, cook, cook your onions, gently in the pan, merrily merrily merrily like in Lucy's Merry Olde England, life is but a dream(land)...." And I had to laugh when you say to add a glass or two of wine. It reminds me of that kitchen magnet that says: "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food!", and also evokes images of la bonne vivante Julia Child (always a pretty good cook, sitting on her groceries). Peace and pureed parsnips (but only if you like them) to all, Princess Patti NPIMH: Raised on Robbery, obviously! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:32:54 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC definitely now Folk Progeny >Kate, In addition to Rufus's sister, Martha, whose first debut album drops on April 12, www.marthawainwright.com, there is additionally, Linda & Richard Thompson's son Teddy,< I've heard teddy in concert & he has an extraordinary voice... talked to him a bit after the show cuz he was the one that moved me & anyone everyone was talking to his dad... really sweet guy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:37:40 -0500 From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Kings of Convenience, Feist, Sylvester, and Dominic Serena (sjc) Hi gang -- Since this is jmdl, after all, "Home of Good, If Varied, Taste, and Infinitely Knowledgeable People" (aka HoG-VaT-InK-P), I was wondering if any of y'all had heard of the Kings of Convenience (described in a SF Chrinicle rave review of a recent concert at the Fillmore as being sort of like Simon&Garfunkel if the latter duo had been Norwegian, more than a little odd, and almost certainly gay); their warm-up act, a woman currently going by "Feist" (real name, let's see... not given) is described as a Calgarian (it does not say whether she's a big-boned gal) former punker/rapper (Rap name is, oh dear, B**ch Lap-Lap) -- now gone pop, with great songs, and enormous and charming stage presence. The Chronicle Datebook section also had a nice cover story about Sylvester -- Joshua Gamson, the author of "The Fabulous Sylvester", is giving a reading of the book this coming Wednesday at A Clean, Well-Lighted Place For Books in SF, for any interested SFers. Finally, anyone know Dominic Serena (aka "Serene Dominic")? He wrote what I think is a modern masterpiece of pop music review/reference, "Burt Bacharach -- The Complete Songs", astonishingly detailed and incredibly funny but (I still can't beleive this) UTTERLY LACKING IN AN ALPHABETICAL INDEX OF SONGS-- Why would someone write such a neato book, and then the editors allow it to go to press without an index?? -- One needs to buy one of the other (inferior) Bacharach books to use as a separate index to the songs! Anyway, his writing is spectacular, and I wonder whether he might be willing to do one on Joni. If no one here knows him, I'll ask the good folks at House Is Not a Homepage -- someone there must certainly be able to get a message to him, and I'd certainly be willing to pitch the idea... Best to all, Walt, who is relieved that Dan Rather's "Song To Myself" is finally over. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:46:46 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: njc, JMOCD at work again Dear Patti.. I think Boopsie is a closet Joni listner....don't be suprised to find that out some day. She'll let a joni verse slip or an accidental hummmmmmmm of a Joni tune. I'm sure of it!! Anyway...thanks for the good laugh this day. Love.. Bree NP. Pride and Joy..Stevie Ray Vaughn >More Joni quoting (and now singing!) in the workplace: this is a true >story. > >Yesterday my co-worker Boopsie (remember her? the one who hates Joni's >voice because it makes her "epileptic", or as Julius more correctly put it, >apopleptic?) came into my office. Looking a little confused, she put her >finger on her chin, and said: "I'm looking for something." > >UH OH! Sweet inspiration! Like putting a quarter in the Wurlitzer and >pushing her only button, the Chatty Cathy/Patti Playpal/Jumpin' Joni doll >began to sing (fortissimo, ad alta voce): > >"........what can it be >Oh I hate you some, I hate you some, I love you some >Oh I love you when I forget about me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:47:56 -0500 From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Everything But The Girl Called Eddy? (njc) Hey, Bob (and all), Just downloaded "Tears All Over Town" to see if it was the same song that I was thinking of -- Didn't EBTG do a song by that name back in the '80's? (If I have the name of the song right.) It was also melancholy, which is, I guess, what one would expect from the name of the song... best, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:53:25 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Kings of Convenience, njc Walt asked: > I was wondering if any of y'all > had heard of the Kings of Convenience Strange synchro time again. I just read about these guys the other night by following a link on Keren Ann's site. http://www.kingsofconvenience.com/ - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:21:12 -0000 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Kings of Convenience, Feist, Sylvester, and Dominic Serena (sjc) Walt wrote: << their warm-up act, a woman currently going by "Feist" (real name, let's see... not given) is described as a Calgarian (it does not say whether she's a big-boned gal) former punker/rapper (Rap name is, oh dear, B**ch Lap-Lap) -- now gone pop, with great songs, and enormous and charming stage presence. >> Feist is wonderful! I bought her album (Let It Die) a couple of months ago and listened to it A LOT. She has one of the most disarmingly huggable voices I've heard in years, and her songs are lovely too. There are some very well chosen covers too, including a transcendent take on the Bee Gees' Inside And Out. I gather she's a pretty good guitar player too, as she takes sole credit for the guitars on the album. Have a listen folks, and I'm sure most of you will swoon a little when you hear her lilting tones and gorgeous timbre caressing a tune. Azeem in London NP: Feist - Mushaboom (fantastic song!) - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 09/03/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:03:59 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: njc, JMOCD at work again Patti; What's even more fun, is when the person you are speaking (or singing) to doesn't even have a frame of reference. Next time someone asks how you are, tell them your painted pony is going up and down. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Parlette" To: Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: njc, JMOCD at work again > More Joni quoting (and now singing!) in the workplace: this is a true > story. > > Yesterday my co-worker Boopsie (remember her? the one who hates Joni's > voice because it makes her "epileptic", or as Julius more correctly put it, > apopleptic?) came into my office. Looking a little confused, she put her > finger on her chin, and said: "I'm looking for something." > > UH OH! Sweet inspiration! Like putting a quarter in the Wurlitzer and > pushing her only button, the Chatty Cathy/Patti Playpal/Jumpin' Joni doll > began to sing (fortissimo, ad alta voce): > > "........what can it be > Oh I hate you some, I hate you some, I love you some > Oh I love you when I forget about me > > I want to be strong I want to laugh along > I want to belong to the living > Alive, alive, I want to get up and jive (then I'm rising up from my desk, > looking totally berserk....) > I want to wreck my stockings in some juke box dive > Do you want - do you want - do you want to dance with me baby > Do you want to take a chance > On maybe finding some sweet romance with me baby > Well, come on............" ( then I'm trying to get Boopsie to dance, but > she is an all-work, anti-pleasure kind of person, poor soul, so she's > backing away in fear). > > Boopsiee then RUNS from my office, hands over her ears, shrieking: "GAWD!!! > Now she's SINGING Joni Mitchell! I can't STAND it!" > > I sang that girl right out of my office. People in the outer office suite > and the hallway were cracking up. > > Humor in the workplace is a good thing......spice it up with a little Joni > and it's even better! > > Hoping you're laughing along, belonging to the living, > > Patti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:41:10 -0700 From: Kate Subject: prairie girl Rob: > Now, the thought of a prairie girl cd makes me excited, although I am probably > the only one. Nope, there's two of us. Although ... Maidstone and Saskatoon aren't on the Saskatchewan prairie, they're in the parkland ... Saskatchewan is called a prairie province ... so Joni is considered a prairie girl ... and of course, she was born in Ft McLeod, which IS on the Alberta prairie ... oh what the hell, who cares? I enjoyed your description of dance nights in Saskatchewan. Some of my folks' friends (in their 60s, as Joni is) were saying not long ago that they used to call them "bush" dances or something because there'd be more people out in the bushes around the hall, drinking beer and whiskey, than would actually be inside dancing. Kate du Nord Okay, Today Felt Like Spring! http://xoetc.antville.org Who does she think she is, Anaos Nin? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:39:32 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) blckcrow@chorus.net wrote: > Randy wrote (and Mark answered): > > "Randy Remote wrote: > > Congratulations and all that, but, geez, when the kid gets out of > > high school, Stills is going to be, like 80 years old. > > If he lives that long. Chances are good this kid will live most of his life > without his father. > Seems very selfish to me. > > Mark E. in Seattle" > > OK, me now. Honestly, I love you guys, but. . .what business is this of ours? Americans consume 25% of the earth's resources. Wealthy Americans, (like Stills) far more. I'd say the rampant procreation of humans is everyone's business. Considering the dwindling environment, the amassing of armaments, the ever rising population (mostly poor), IMO bringing ANY more babies into this mess is a poor idea. At the very least, stopping at two children is the responsible thing to do. > Second, regarding Mark's line of argument: would it have been better for this child, then, not to have been born? Huh? If the child had not been born, there would be no child to regret not having been born. I have great respect for Stephen Stills as an artist, and I'm sure he is a fine man. But for some guys, fathering kids seems to be an ego thing. Like Tony Randall beating his chest about having a kid, and 3 years later he is dead. If it's really about love, and not about YOU, then adopt! There are plenty of children already here who need love and support. > Maybe I'd view Stills's situation a little differently if he were 75 now, and, by definition, would probably only have 5 or 10 years with this child, instead of 20 or 25. He's in his 60's. In rock star years...well....we can hope he makes it another 20 years. RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:46:27 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, JMOCD at work again >Patti; >What's even more fun, is when the person you are speaking (or singing) to >doesn't even have a frame of reference. Next time someone asks how you are, >tell them your painted pony is going up and down. Yeah, sure Brad, and then we'll be singing THIS song when our co-workers report us to HR (with SCJoniguy singing "Zip A Dee Doo Dah" in the background): - ------------------------ They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!! They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!! You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that loosing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT??? I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And.. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa, They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa. To the happy home. With ARBUTUS trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!! - ------------------- And of course, the "happy home" is Catherine's "Joni Mitchell Home for Aging Children." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:07:04 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: njc, JMOCD at work again Thanks Patti. I needed that laugh. I used to like to make obscure literary references, to see if the person I was conversing with would catch on. Using Joni lyrics is a new twist on an old game. I don't have to worry about HR...I'm self employed. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Parlette" To: ; Cc: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Re: njc, JMOCD at work again > >Patti; > >What's even more fun, is when the person you are speaking (or singing) to > >doesn't even have a frame of reference. Next time someone asks how you are, > >tell them your painted pony is going up and down. > > > Yeah, sure Brad, and then we'll be singing THIS song when our co-workers > report us to HR (with SCJoniguy singing "Zip A Dee Doo Dah" in the > background): > > ------------------------ > They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!! > They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa > To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be > happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're > coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!! > You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said > that loosing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT??? > I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and > laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And.. > > They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa, > They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa. > To the happy home. With ARBUTUS trees and flowers and chirping birds and > basket > weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're > coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!! > ------------------- > > And of course, the "happy home" is Catherine's "Joni Mitchell Home for Aging > Children." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 9:04:32 -0600 From: Subject: Stills (NJC) Randy wrote (and Mark answered): "Randy Remote wrote: > Congratulations and all that, but, geez, when the kid gets out of > high school, Stills is going to be, like 80 years old. If he lives that long. Chances are good this kid will live most of his life without his father. Seems very selfish to me. Mark E. in Seattle" OK, me now. Honestly, I love you guys, but. . .what business is this of ours? Second, regarding Mark's line of argument: would it have been better for this child, then, not to have been born? Do you think the kid will agree with that, down the line? As a related side point, it never ceases to amaze me what different (and sometimes, diametrically opposed) permutations the concept of "selfishness" takes when applied to reproductive decisions. People who have chosen not to have children are often called "selfish," even though, looked at from a certain perspective, one of the most selfish things we can ever do in life is to become parents. People--mainly women--of a certain age who opt to go it alone and have a child solo are called "selfish," even though completely reorienting one's life in one's 40's and being solely responsible for a sick or crying or rebellious child can't be a walk in the park. And of course, other people--mainly men--who become parents without medical intervention late in life are called "selfish," even though the child wouldn't exist without them, and the parent-child relationship may bring great joy to both, for as long as it lasts. To be sure, any decision to parent--including decisions made by same-age, heterosexual couples that nobody ever looks twice at--can be ill-advised. Maybe I'd view Stills's situation a little differently if he were 75 now, and, by definition, would probably only have 5 or 10 years with this child, instead of 20 or 25. It's up to the parent to provide a rich environment, including others who may serve as role models while s/he is alive, and serve as a loving guardian if s/he is not. And of course, it's optimal to make sure, as much as is possible, that the child will be cared for financially. All that to say: this was Stephen and Kristen's decision. We have no idea what went into it, or just what the implications might have been for their relationship had they *not* made it. Let's leave things at that. Mary, back to lurkdom. P.S. Hey! Is this my first post of 2005?? YOWZA!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:33:38 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Quote about Canada - njc Considering the recent discussions I thought this interesting: "Liberal Americans have been eyeing the Canadian border as their escape hatch since the tragedy of November's U.S. presidential election. But anyone seriously thinking of movin' on up should scratch the surface of our image as a hip and happening nation. Beneath the fashionable attire of same-sex marriage, you'll find Canada sporting a rather fussy petticoat. Americans may think of Canada as a nanny state, given the way we coddle our citizens with free health care and equality provisions. But Canada's nanny is not just the caring nurse; she's also a strict governess. Specifically, she's a sexually repressed and somewhat hysterical Victorian governess, right out of a Henry James story, who determines our appropriate behaviour and activities." - -- David Walberg, publisher of the Toronto gay newspaper Xtra!, writing in the Jan. 20 issue. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:10:40 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: NJC News Flash! Smurf is a producer...of Joni Covers! hi > Look under the CD title. Now click on track # 8 and listen. ok - i give up - how the friggin hell do you smell out joni covers when they aint even listed????????????? & as for the bob m's - a quick trip to googlefight reveals all: bob m vs bob m - a draw at 16,200,000 covers king vs joni in fiction - the covers king romps in at 3,230,000 to 173,000 bob murphy vs bob muller - the smurph walks it at 2,120.000 to 698,000 & the final test - smurph vs king cobra - well, the king walks this one at 706,000 to a measly 5,460 doing a normal google search gives bob muller at 4,980 to bob murphy at 56,100 so there we have it - smurphy has to win - cause one copyrighted joni cover beats 14,780 joni covers by 3,490 to 6 (on googlefight.com) ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:36:52 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: NJC iPod question NJC I was wondering if someone could tell me if an iPod could be played through the "AUX" input of my boom-box? (with the proper cables/adapters) Going on vacay in a couple weeks and a friend wants to bring her iPod as a "source" for music. thx! :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NJC News Flash! Smurf is a producer...of Joni Covers! - --- ron wrote: > & the final test - smurph vs king cobra - well, the > king walks this one at > 706,000 to a measly 5,460 > WRONG, Ron! When you spell my name correctly -- S-m-u-r-f -- I dominate 993,000 to 706,000. YES! Happy weekend, all. - --S-m-u-r-f __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) Just for the sake of argument, if my unborn soul found itself floating through the ether and was presented with a choice between the horrific father I got (long dead, thank God) and Stills, there'd be no absolutely contest. I am all for adoption and limiting the number of unwanted children in the world, but the desire to procreate is pretty basic. - --Smurf, becoming less judgmental about everything except dishonesty and child abuse __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:49:04 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Stills (NJC) I've stayed out of this, but I have to say that I think it's wrong to criticize ANYONE for their reproductive choices--including whether or not to procreate and at what age. Reproductive freedom and the freedom to exercise our sexualities (as long as it doesn't extend to sexual violence) should be respected in old men like Steve Stills starting second families as much as anyone else. (For the record--my only son is grown and I have no intention of having any other children.) :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Smurf Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:57 PM To: Randy Remote; blckcrow@chorus.net Cc: mark.travis@gte.ne; joni@smoe.org; anima_rising@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) Just for the sake of argument, if my unborn soul found itself floating through the ether and was presented with a choice between the horrific father I got (long dead, thank God) and Stills, there'd be no absolutely contest. I am all for adoption and limiting the number of unwanted children in the world, but the desire to procreate is pretty basic. - --Smurf, becoming less judgmental about everything except dishonesty and child abuse __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:51:11 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: NJC iPod question NJC hi em >I was wondering if someone could tell me if an iPod could be played > through the "AUX" input of my boom-box? (with the proper > cables/adapters) definitely wouldnt be a problem - ipods are perfect for that ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:47:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC News Flash! Smurf is a producer...of Joni Covers! Damn I'm good, ain't I? Truth be told, I already had that one on the radar screen from the artist's own website. When it showed up on CDBaby this week, with the Bob Murphy reference, I couldn't resist having a spot o' fun. And I loved all the googlefights - I'm honored to be beaten by someone that I love & admire as much as the beloved Smurf. But then again, I was taught to respect my elders. Bob NP: Rickie Lee, "The Horses" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:07:02 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) Richard Flynn wrote: > I've stayed out of this, but I have to say that I think it's wrong to > criticize ANYONE for their reproductive choices--including whether or not to > procreate and at what age. Is this tolerance unlimited? 50 kids like Hussein? Should the African taboos against condoms be unchallenged? Should overpopulation be accepted because we can't breech the subject for fear of criticizing someone's reproductive choices? > Reproductive freedom and the freedom to exercise our sexualities (as long as > it doesn't extend to sexual violence) should be respected in old men like > Steve Stills What about the freedom to create a society in which there will still be something left for the coming generations? I guess what I'm saying is that rampant child-making is not a form of freedom, it's a form of irresponsiblility. We are all on this life raft together- and it's getting more crowded all the time. If another species was responsible for decimating 95% of our forests, creating global warming, and all the rest of it, we wouldn't be having this discussion. We think we are special, but we're not. Unlimited freedom to spawn is no more a god given right that unlimited freedom to pollute. RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:17:52 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Stills (NJC) SO perhaps you'd like to have your congressman introduce some legislation to regulate all of our reproductive choices? A quota for the number of births we'll allow. Perhaps, as in China, we should limit the number of births with particular attention to female children? I'm firmly pro-choice, but how do you justify that without a concept of reproductive freedom? At least until W. has his way with the Supreme Court we do have a right to such choices, at least in theory, in the U.S. Unlimited freedom to spawn or not to spawn is a right I don't think we can give up lightly. - -----Original Message----- From: Randy Remote [mailto:guitarzan@direcpc.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:07 PM To: Richard Flynn; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) Richard Flynn wrote: > I've stayed out of this, but I have to say that I think it's wrong to > criticize ANYONE for their reproductive choices--including whether or not to > procreate and at what age. Is this tolerance unlimited? 50 kids like Hussein? Should the African taboos against condoms be unchallenged? Should overpopulation be accepted because we can't breech the subject for fear of criticizing someone's reproductive choices? > Reproductive freedom and the freedom to exercise our sexualities (as long as > it doesn't extend to sexual violence) should be respected in old men like > Steve Stills What about the freedom to create a society in which there will still be something left for the coming generations? I guess what I'm saying is that rampant child-making is not a form of freedom, it's a form of irresponsiblility. We are all on this life raft together- and it's getting more crowded all the time. If another species was responsible for decimating 95% of our forests, creating global warming, and all the rest of it, we wouldn't be having this discussion. We think we are special, but we're not. Unlimited freedom to spawn is no more a god given right that unlimited freedom to pollute. RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:20:58 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Joni on Idol Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:36:09 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: Pure conjecture: The very idea of Joni on "American Idol" Funny, I was just thinking about this idea (made possible only by my recent conversion to American Idol fandom this season). Frankly, I'm not sure Joni would be able to perform suitably as a guest judge. The reason - she seems to have a lot of trouble getting to the point - her circuitous and rambling thoughts and sentences would simply be too awkward. But I would love to see the program pay tribute to her in that way. We all love Stevie Wonder but for gawd's sake, one would think he's the world's only songwriter after watching that show. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:22:06 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Melanie NJC Some recent discussion of Melanie - here's an article: http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/entertainment/11076548.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:23:14 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) Just because it's no business of ours, doesn't mean we can't have an opinion about it. ;-D Like that's ever stopped us before? blckcrow@chorus.net wrote: Randy wrote (and Mark answered): "Randy Remote wrote: > Congratulations and all that, but, geez, when the kid gets out of > high school, Stills is going to be, like 80 years old. If he lives that long. Chances are good this kid will live most of his life without his father. Seems very selfish to me. Mark E. in Seattle" OK, me now. Honestly, I love you guys, but. . .what business is this of ours? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:37:35 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Stills (NJC) hi >>>>richard wrote > SO perhaps you'd like to have your congressman introduce some legislation > to > regulate all of our reproductive choices? nah - just to see people exercise that right to choose in a responsible manner. so that we dont get to the point where that legislation is necessary. and to retain the right to be free to express an opinion when we disagree with the way people exercise that right. (just for the record i dont have any kind of an opinion about stills having a kid at his age) one of my favourite quotes: "painfully, sir i am banner of poverty" was written in a request for promotion by a harbour worker who had something like 3 wives, 13 kids, and assorted aunts & uncles to support. not much of a life i would think. (he also wrote other gems like "in order that the meek may inherit the earth they must be sends their applications on their staff office" & "in our reality we are aware that the hunting dog it knows to catch the buck" - what the hell was he doing working as a labourer!?!?!?!?) ron np - jim white ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 07:25:13 +0000 From: John Sprackland Subject: Re: album poll In message , david sapp writes >I guess I'm dense but how do I vote on the album poll? > >peace, david You just go to http://www.jmdl.com/poll/albumpoll.cfm , click on 'vote' (you have to be registered...), then you click in the box where it say 'Mingus' ;o) John Southport, UK - -- Sprackland ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #111 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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