From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #109 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 10 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 109 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc ["Azeem" ] Re: WOMAN OF HEART AND MIND DVD - now njc ["Cynthia Vickery" ] Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: A Case of You - A Question [Randy Remote ] Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Randy Remote ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc [Bob Muller ] march 9!!!!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Wigstock [Michael Paz ] Re: Wigstock [Gary Z ] Re: Oh...my...god... and the first-3-albums songbook (sjc) [Michael Paz <] Songs of a Prairie Girl ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Steely Dan [Michael Paz ] RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc, but "Joanie" content [Smurf ] Re: Steely Dan [Michael Paz ] Re: Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? [Bob Mu] Re: njc [Michael Paz ] Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC now Old Farts that reproduce [Catheri] Re: Joni Songbook [Catherine McKay ] Joni Art Cards - oh well NJC [Suzanne MarcAurele ] The man who decided it was time for a change NJC ["Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc Smurf wrote: << Lord au gratin! >> What a fantastic exclamation! << A Girl Called Eddy tonight in Cambridge. Oh, my. I bought their CD last weekend because of Azeem's rave. Then tonight I braved a blizzard to go see 'em. They are many, many steps ahead of the pack, on CD and in person. It's hard to describe what makes them so perfect. The words, the music. (You know how that is.) - --Smurf NP: Tears All Over Town >> Another convert - I'm thrilled! I've managed to get one other friend to buy this album, with great success; maybe I should start charging commission. Sadly, Fiona wasn't that taken with it, but hey, nobody's perfect. Your post has prompted me to put the CD on again, at very loud volume. I still think Somebody Hurt You is my favourite song, but there's not much in it, not a duff song. Azeem in London NP: A Girl Called Eddy - Kathleen - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:47:54 -0600 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: WOMAN OF HEART AND MIND DVD - now njc <> hi matt! i'll leave your questions to someone who knows more than i do, but wanted to take a second to welcome another suth'ner to the list. glad to have you here. for whatever reason (though they'll claim it's because everyone there is more evolved), a disproportionate amount of folks on the list seem to be from the northeast quadrant of the US. thus, the takeover begins..... :o) cindy, in alabama, where daffodils are in bloom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:24:48 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, blizzard & brussel sprouts & queens Beloved Boston Blue Boy wrote: "Then tonight I braved a blizzard to go see 'em." Did you pay a dollar and a half just to see 'em? tee hee...... And you sure DID brave a blizzard, Brother Bob! I heard ferocity in the wind last night, so my Joni beret is off to you for venturing out, all the for love of music. You know what happened to me yesterday? Late last night I heard the screen door slam and slam and slam and slam and slam again. There is no latch on my back storm door, so I sent up my prayer wondering who was there to hear: I said send me somebody who's strong and somewhat sincere -- and handy!. And if I may humbly weigh in on the vegetable discussion, I LOVE roasted root vegetables AND brussel sprouts. If you haven't tasted Julia Child's (R.I.P.) brussel sprouts braised in butter from "Mastering the Art of French Cooking I", you haven't lived! And Thanksgiving just isn't Thanksgiving without those orange turnips (rutabagas?). Terribly hard to peel and cut, they are mean old daddies, but I like them. Love, Patti, just another silly girl today, freely and obsessively quoting Joni now that Oddmund has me seeing that I'm not alone. (Hi Sweetie! Loved your post! But I aint' no disco queen* or Patti LaBelle diva....lol! There are enough queens and divas here, with SIQUOMB of course at the top of the list, and then Queen Lulu, and Queen Catherine la Reine de la Sagesse de Toronto, and Queen Anne Alain Robbe-Grillet of the Boston Red Sox, and Ashara the Queen of Your Jonifest Dreams, and Queen Kate of Santa Barbara, and the two Queens of Sisotowbell Lane in Rochester, and Anima Rising Queen of Queens, and dear Mags Queen au Canada, and you know there may be more of course....so can I just be Princess Patti Peacenik Parlette, and keep the alliteration thang goin' on?) * Who sang that? I'm drawing a blank right now (guess something's lost in quoting Joni every day). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:20:27 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl > Bob Muller wrote: > > > Randy Remote wrote: > > > > > How many of her songs are "about the province"? > > > > > Well, I'm assuming that any song with Canada content will > > qualify? Song For Sharon with its reference to Maidstone, > > Coyote with a reference to Baljennie...and I guess there's > > more, If the criteria is passing mention, then there can be endless compilations based on endless themes. I will suggest that there is more material for a nylon stocking themed CD than a Canadian one.... At some point, all of her material will be rereleased in some new collection. Is this a good thing? For years, she refused to release a greatest hits collection, saying it would kill her catalog. Now she's doing it herself. It's not comforting to think some newbie in a record store would pass over Hejira for Dreamland, or SOAPG. Some of the songs must be in several of the compilations by now. Please put this energy into a real boxset of rarities and live cuts, JM! If you need help, call! RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:24:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > But there is a little sidebar, "Stephen Stills Becomes Proud Papa": > > "Stephen Stills and his wife Kristen are the proud parents of a baby boy. Oliver Ragland Stills was born Monday, October 25, in Los Angeles, weighing 8 pounds 2 ounces. Stephen reports that both Kristen and Oliver are doing great, and "Daddy" is elated. Congratulations and all that, but, geez, when the kid gets out of high school, Stills is going to be, like 80 years old. Get a puppy or something. The world is overpopulated enough. Every rich person consumes...blah blah, you know... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:24:41 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: A Case of You - A Question Matt Mc wrote: > I've got a dumb question about "A Case of You." How > does Joni get that cool sound on the intro? Is that a > mandolin, dobro, banjo, banjitar/guitjo, etc. or just > some kind of cool picking technique (like picking at > the very end of the string right on the bridge). A 4 string dulcimer, as Richard said- the distinctive sound is due to the much smaller size than a guitar, and the drone strings. > I'm > sure it's an alt. tuning since this IS Joni, but any > insights you have would help. I just love that sound, > especially from the intro. Very distinctive. Plus > the song is wonderful. I could imagine a lot of other > arrangements that would be coo, but nothing could be > better that this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:45:22 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC Randy Remote wrote: > Congratulations and all that, but, geez, when the kid gets out of > high school, Stills is going to be, like 80 years old. If he lives that long. Chances are good this kid will live most of his life without his father. Seems very selfish to me. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:46:47 -0500 From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Songbook Here's the info that I have on this songbook: It's titled "The Music of Joni Mitchell" - and the cover art is the same self-portrait used on "Clouds" It was published in 1969 and it's card catalog number is: 70-107630 Songs included are: Both Sides Now Cactus Tree Carnival in Kenora Chelsea Morning Dawntreader Fiddle and the Drum The Gallery I Don't Know Where I Stand I Had a King I Think I Understand Jeremy Ladies of the Canyon A Melody in Your Name Marcie Michael from the Mountains Moon in the Mirror Nathan LaFraneer Night in the City The Pirates of Penance Poor Sad Baby The Priest Song Roses Blue Sisotowbell Lane Song to a Seagull Songs to Aging Children Come Straw-Flower Me That Song About the Midway Tin Angel Who Has Seen The Wind Winter Lady I purchased mine on Ebay about 3 years ago. Let me know if any of these are songs you were looking for. Rob Lindley in the blue tv screen light ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:01:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Jerry Notaro wrote: > Though if it contains a totally remastered Paprika Plains I would buy it. It's already available remastered-the HDCD version of DJRD. If you mean with the strings or piano digitally retuned, that would be a full remix. I would rather they didn't, and would bet they won't. But if they do, I would probably buy it, too. As someone said, the off tuning gives it a dreamlike quality that I don't find offensive, it's part of the piece. If they are going to all that trouble, why not do a surround sound mix? For that matter, why not do a surround CD anyway? I'd love to hear Cotton Ave with the voices swirling around, or Raised on Robertson with the rock band blasting all around. RR (Not that I have a surround system, but it would be a good reason to get one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:09:55 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl I have Both Sides Now in 5.1 and DVD Audio and it sounds great on my surround set up. Jerry > If they are going to all that trouble, why not do a surround sound mix? > For that matter, why not do a surround CD anyway? I'd love to hear > Cotton Ave with the voices swirling around, or Raised on Robertson > with the rock band blasting all around. > RR > (Not that I have a surround system, but it would be a good reason to get one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:12:34 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl > Jerry Notaro wrote: > >> Though if it contains a totally remastered Paprika Plains I would buy it. > > It's already available remastered-the HDCD version of DJRD. > If you mean with the strings or piano digitally retuned, that would be > a full remix. Semantics. Many remasterings include new mixes. And, yes, that is what I meant. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:29:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl That is one album I don't want to hear in greater detail! Jerry Notaro wrote: > I have Both Sides Now in 5.1 and DVD Audio and it sounds great on my > surround set up. > > Jerry > > > If they are going to all that trouble, why not do a surround sound mix? > > For that matter, why not do a surround CD anyway? I'd love to hear > > Cotton Ave with the voices swirling around, or Raised on Robertson > > with the rock band blasting all around. > > RR > > (Not that I have a surround system, but it would be a good reason to get one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:43:16 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl > That is one album I don't want to hear in greater detail! Not one of my favorites either, Randy. The the 5.1 mix places Joni more onstage and in the middle of the orchestra than the stereo mix. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:39:06 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc I was doing some research on A Girl Called Eddy today based on the samples I heard - it's definitely a CD I'd like to hear more of...and I see where she records for Anti-Epitaph, the home of Tom Waits, Joe Henry, and others. They seem to be very discriminating in terms of promoting artists who aren't afraid to put out some adventurous stuff. Another reason to seek out the disc! I was hoping that they were heading south on the tour, and they are, but after VA they head across the pond. Bob NP: Smash Mouth, "I Just Wanna See" - --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20:40:46 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: march 9!!!!!! njc HRM QUEEN LULU IS HAVING A BIRTHDAY TODAY. H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y YOUR MAJESTY!!!! love, wally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:50:31 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Wigstock Is this in DVD release. You made me sad to think of dear old Kenny. So many wonderful evenings on Ashara's back porch smoking fags and singing songs with Kenny and the gang. Love Paz NP-Did you Ever Love A Woman-Rufus Thomas-just because I'm leavin'.... (Due out April 26, 2005) > Finally got to see Wigstock last night. Though I have never been, I have met > (and partied) with a few of the luminaries in it. What a surprise to see > John Kelly in the movie. He had on his Joni bangs wig and sang Wigstock is > his highest falsetto. We had a mini Joni gathering a few years back to see > Lady Bunny9s tribute to Dusty Springfield at The Fez. It was the last time I > saw Kenny Grant. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:30:34 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Wigstock Hi Michael, I found it listed here: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?style=movie&pid=5740320&cart=234623715 Best regards, Gary Michael Paz wrote: >Is this in DVD release. You made me sad to think of dear old Kenny. So many >wonderful evenings on Ashara's back porch smoking fags and singing songs >with Kenny and the gang. > >Love > >Paz > >NP-Did you Ever Love A Woman-Rufus Thomas-just because I'm leavin'.... >(Due out April 26, 2005) > > > >>Finally got to see Wigstock last night. Though I have never been, I have met >>(and partied) with a few of the luminaries in it. What a surprise to see >>John Kelly in the movie. He had on his Joni bangs wig and sang Wigstock is >>his highest falsetto. We had a mini Joni gathering a few years back to see >>Lady Bunny9s tribute to Dusty Springfield at The Fez. It was the last time I >>saw Kenny Grant. >> >>Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:46:34 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Oh...my...god... and the first-3-albums songbook (sjc) Walt- Come on dawg you know you remember when you wanted it to be slow and last forever huh???? Now you want the speed thing and for it to be over quick huh huh huh ???? Paz (still enjoying your posts) NP Still Rufus > Hi all, > > After three xcruciating months of computer trouble, i now have a > semi-functioning Mac G-3 and, as of this afternoon... D...S...L!!!! Still > some bugs to > work out, but I'm giving you all fair warning -- I'll probably be spending > more > time online now. > > Oh, also, I got a somewhat weather-beaten Joni songbook in the mail today, > the one of the first three albums -- i had hoped it was the earlier version, > that had about, what, 6 or 8 of the early NON-album songs, but no dice -- is > there anyone who has that book (they were one of the raffle items at the '03 > fest) > who'd be willing to trade just those songs for some other sheet music. I > don't have anything that unusual, but maybe -- anyway, there's always > Ghirardelli's or See's chocolates. > > If you have the songs and are interested, please contact me off-list. I'm > keeping AOL, for now, anyway, so I'll be at this address. > > D...S...L!!!! (I know, it's like I'm the first one to discover sex or > something, but I'd just gotten used to 56K!) > > Best to all, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:47:39 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Songs of a Prairie Girl Dude, there are plenty. There's one about the Broadway bridge, that one about Harlem in Havana, that song about the midway, and I'm not even breaking a sweat. If you're looking for a current songwriter, with a voice of an angel, an attitude, yet is also drop-dead hot, check out Karin Berquist of "Over The Rhine". She's "the new Joni Mitchell". Ducking for cover, Lama RR, which doesn't stand for Roy Rogers, said, >JONI, STOP THIS MADNESS!! How many of her songs are "about the province"? Approximately none, though there are passing mentions in a few, Paprika Plains probably has the most..> edit< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:49:20 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Steely Dan Respectfully DISAGREE!! Sorry! It really easy HIS band. I think Croz might tell you that as well. I hear that at a gig in Italy last week Croz was deathly ill and between Nash and Raymond it was still an amazing set. It's just the perception of Croz's largeness. LOL Love Paz NP-Trouble in Mind-Rufus Thomas > There's a semi related article about Crosby's son's band at: > http://crosbycpr.com/content/features/features_text/Goldmine_99.html > > that is cpr, (it is not crosby's son's band).. cpr is one of my fav bands > for years... yes peev is an amazing guitar player ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:50:29 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc, but "Joanie" content - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > I was doing some research on A Girl Called Eddy > today Spoken like a true music slut, Bob! There's not a lot I could find out about this group either, aside from the press stuff on their website, which is interesting. Apparently, the singer's name is Erin Moran, which is also the name of the actress who played Joanie Cunningham on "Happy Days." She apologized last night for not being able to afford anything but a "computer drummer," but she had two great guys -- she mumbled their names at the end -- making up the rest of her band last night. One of the guys has to be the the guitarist who does the bottleneck 60s-sounding incredible stuff on the CD because the music he made was what you hear on the CD. And he makes those sounds while seated in a chair, playing his bottleneck thingy just as Joni would play a dulcimer -- not with a lot of showbiz pizazz, which makes it even cooler. The other guy mostly played bass, and was also a great addition to the act on other instruments and background vocals. They are low-energy in concert, but they're every bit as mesmerizing as their recorded stuff. For some reason I was expecting to find a world-weary ingenue fronting the band. But the fact is, Erin is probably old enough to have been the mother of some of the kids who were there last night. I don't know exactly why, but that fact made me love her more. I guess it makes her more *real* to me. She's not being trendy, she's an artist. Having seen them, now I love their CD even more. It is beautifully produced. I am so glad I still have ears and the will to fight nasty New England blizzards. - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:26:56 +1100 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? I just picked myself up a copy of the "Come in From the Cold" video from ebay. I was highly amused by the video "Dancing Clown" (but not the song - take a breather Bob!). I kept screaming to the video "what the hell is she doing to that poor cat!" Has anyone seen it? What's with the cat? Melissa in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 18:01:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Lord au gratin! -- njc, but "Joanie" content Smurf wrote: Subject: RE: Steely Dan I was thinking he meant james's band as in something apart from DC... but you are right james is a musician who has garnered respect for his musical accomplishments prior to cpr... & should be viewed as such >Respectfully DISAGREE!! Sorry! It really easy HIS band. I think Croz might tell you that as well. I hear that at a gig in Italy last week Croz was deathly ill and between Nash and Raymond it was still an amazing set. It's just the perception of Croz's largeness. LOL Love Paz< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:01:18 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Steely Dan Hi Howard I agree! I am a huge fan of FTR as well as CaS. I worked with tom Scott at a Corporate gig recently in New Orleans where he was the musical director with the Funk Brothers for a show featuring many of the singers from the movie as well as other singers hired for the private show. Great cat. I wish I would have had the balls to go over and sit with him at lunch and talk about his past. But I am too respectful of folks I respect (the rest of you WATCH OUT) Love Paz NP-American Idol > One other Joni-Steely Dan connection that I didn't see mentioned: Tom Scott. > He played and did wind/brass arrangements on a number of their albums, but > it's his work on Steely Dan's Aja and Joni's For The Roses that stand out to > me. > > His arrangements made immeasurable contributions to these two albums. > Neither would have been the same without him - he turned music that was > already superb into something just out of this world. He seems to have had > such amazing good taste, to be able to add touches with his arrangements > that highlight, support and add interest to the music without ever > dominating. A master! > > Howard > > > Rob Steen wrote: > >> Quote: >> >> "Fagen & Becker were the best writers IMO during that rock jazz-influenced >> music of the late 70s early 80s. Joni was well into her jazz period then >> and she probably acknowledged them for the >brilliant artists they were. >> There's such a sophistication in Steely Dan's music that's not unlike >> Joni's. Have their paths never crossed?" > >> A hearty 'yeah' to that rationale. Their paths certainly appear to have >> crossed only through >> sessioneers and guests: Wayne Shorter; Larry Carlton; Victor Feldman (who >> played on Hissing and Countdown to Ecstasy, the uppermost of the seven SD >> albums in my top 50!); Pat Metheny went on tour with Joni and performed a >> gorgeous version of Sign In Stranger with Don Fagen. I've another couple >> of theories, though. 1) The fraternal Becker-Fagen dynamic would never >> allow a third party to do any more than twiddle the odd knob (a la Gary >> Katz); 2) for all their myriad virtues, Becker and Fagen don't seem to >> have a terribly high opinion of >women. > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 18:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? I thought she was just kind of dancing around with it, Melissa - I've only seen it once or twice. I do enjoy the video, it helps to take my mind off the song, and it's fun-filled UNLIKE the song which just lays there like a puddle of cat vomit with a Billy Idol hairball in it. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "I'll Take New York" Melissa Gibbs wrote: I just picked myself up a copy of the "Come in From the Cold" video from ebay. I was highly amused by the video "Dancing Clown" (but not the song - take a breather Bob!). I kept screaming to the video "what the hell is she doing to that poor cat!" Has anyone seen it? What's with the cat? Melissa in Sydney Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:44:30 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: njc Hello Chicago!!! I have a great recipe for brussel sprouts which I use to loathe but now love. I always make this recipe for Thanksgiving dinner. 4 lbs. Of Brussel Sprouts (I can usually get fresh but frozen will work) 2 Cans of Roasted Garlic Mushroom Soup (Campbells) 1 Can of Regular Mushroom Soup 1 1/2 Cans of Half and Half 1 8oz can of Button Mushrooms 1 8oz can of Straw mushrooms (Japanese store) As much cheese as you can stand (I like something a little stinky like Asiago mixed with something like Velveeta (for the melty texture) Salt and Pepper to taste Frenchs Onion rings. Boil the sprouts in salted water (I use use a bit of REAL butter in the water as well. I cook them about 10-12 minutes or till they can me mushed. I like them a little chunky. In a different pot mix your soups and half and half season as desired. At the end of heating the soups up ass all the button mushrooms. Drain the sprouts well. Add soup mixture together and mix well. Add cheese and a handful of the dry onions. Put in a rectangular casserole dish (please grease it baby with butter or Pam) Add all ingredients including cheese. Put in the oven for 35 minutes at 350. Put the dry onion rings on top after 35 minutes as well as the STRAW mushrooms (it's a look ok... I usually do a Chritmas tree shape or something goofy). Put back in the oven for 115 minutes (BUT turn off the heat). This is SLAP you mama (or you bitch in Giselle's case) so enjoy!!!!!!!! Love Paz NP_Can't Ever Let you Go-Rufus Thomas > Out of lurkdom to post to a food thread ... > I agree Lori! I LOVE brussel sprouts and carrots! I often cook them > together. They almost rate up there with aspargus and lima beans - my faves! > > And Marianne you are one sweet potato! Although I am not sure I have ever > eaten a parsnip, but I have had turnips - they are pretty good. > > Now we could make it a Joni thread if everyone wants to ponder Joni's favorite > vegetable(s). LOL! > > Peace, > Susan > > Lori Fye wrote: >> In hell, there will verily be a place for such boiled muck side by side by >> brussel >> sprout. > > Now wait just a minute there, pardner -- and you too, Cindy! Brussel > sprouts are the goddess's gift to all of humankind!!!! > > Yum. > > Lori > > P.S. - Em, a parsnip looks kinda like a carrot but is closer to a > turnip in taste ... sort of ... maybe. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:21:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC now Old Farts that reproduce - --- Randy Remote wrote: > JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > > > But there is a little sidebar, "Stephen Stills > Becomes Proud Papa": > > > > "Stephen Stills and his wife Kristen are the proud > parents of a baby boy. Oliver Ragland Stills was > born Monday, October 25, in Los Angeles, weighing 8 > pounds 2 ounces. Stephen reports that both Kristen > and Oliver are doing great, and "Daddy" is elated. > > Congratulations and all that, but, geez, when the > kid gets out of high school, > Stills is going to be, like 80 years old. Get a > puppy or something. > The world is overpopulated enough. Every rich person > consumes...blah > blah, you know... > THANK YOU for saying that. Jeez, speaking of stopping the madness, WHY do some people insist upon reproducing when they've passed their best before date? It's not like he hasn't already had kids, and I guess one of them is his wife. Grow up! I cried. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Songbook - --- Rdalindley@aol.com wrote: > Here's the info that I have on this songbook: > > It's titled "The Music of Joni Mitchell" - and the > cover art is the same self-portrait used on "Clouds" > > It was published in 1969 and it's card catalog > number is: 70-107630 > > Songs included are: > Both Sides Now > Cactus Tree > Carnival in Kenora > Chelsea Morning > Dawntreader > Fiddle and the Drum > The Gallery > I Don't Know Where I Stand > I Had a King > I Think I Understand > Jeremy > Ladies of the Canyon > A Melody in Your Name > Marcie > Michael from the Mountains > Moon in the Mirror > Nathan LaFraneer > Night in the City > The Pirates of Penance > Poor Sad Baby > The Priest Song > Roses Blue > Sisotowbell Lane > Song to a Seagull > Songs to Aging Children Come > Straw-Flower Me > That Song About the Midway > Tin Angel > Who Has Seen The Wind > Winter Lady > > I purchased mine on Ebay about 3 years ago. Let me > know if any of these are songs you were looking for. > > Rob Lindley > in the blue tv screen light I have it too, Walt. I had one when it first came out that my sister lent to a so-called friend that never gave it back (it was MY book, dammit! not hers to lend, but I digress... and I thought I never held a grudge!) I also got one off E-Bay a couple of years ago. I'll be happy to copy any pages you like and either send them to you in the mail, fax 'em to ya, scan 'em and e-mail 'em, whatEVAH. Or you may get lucky and find one on E-Bay. You're probably looking to get the piano arrangements, which aren't bad, but aren't great either. But I'm sure you can use them as the basis to create your own arrangement which I'm sure would be very good, because I know you can play. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:23:08 -0500 From: Suzanne MarcAurele Subject: Joni Art Cards - oh well NJC Out from my cave to say - simply awful idea! Why? Trees for one - the point of art is not to rival baseball processes - the point is to search high and low and find the Art somewhere .....hmmmmm...now suppose we could do something like ensure that some public access place would house her artwork for posterity....hmmm well that would require contact with the artist which alas was a fleeting moment for me and of course when third rate singers who sound like something off the miss America pageant get oscar night Joni may well continue to sell to the highest bidder ... glitzy stones forgotten nomes ha ha names not work repeating, borrowed their names and their art something that power of kneeing s. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20:45:39 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC >Jennifer Stills, that is. Got this in my mailbox from Jen's people. Just FYI for you, my European friends. - - - -Julius< How exciting to hear this about Jen, thanks Julius! I am excited for her as she has a very beautiful voice as you can imagine the daughter of Mr. Stills would have inherited (think John & Bonnie Rait) Richard >oop! I forgot to include the link to the KCRW Morning Becomes Ecclectic Webcast (RealPlayer) with Rufus and Chris Stills from Oct. '03. It is utterly fabulous: http://kcrw.com/smil/mb031021Rufus_Wainwright.ram< it is thank you Richard! it is sweet to see how the children of these major music makers are blossoming... speaking of which, please check out this young man, someone close to my heart & mind, someone making his own talented place in the world... http://www.crosbyloggins.com kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:28:11 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The man who decided it was time for a change NJC (Passing this on.. KB) The man who decided it was time for a change The man who lit the fuse of the human rights revolution died this last month, having refused all honours and leaving behind him a world changed by the countless protests and petitions he championed Peter Benenson, the founder of Amnesty International, was 83. He was born into a world without the United Nations. Not a single international human rights treaty was in existence. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights had yet to be written. There wasn't a single one of today's major human rights organizations on the political landscape. Civil society was yet to be born. Inordinately modest and self-effacing, the one-time lawyer who launched Amnesty International in 1961 would never claim credit for the sea-change of the last 40 years. He was offered knighthoods by almost every successive British Prime Minister but he never accepted. Each Prime Minister who wrote to him received a personal response from Benenson - who typed his own letters until late in life -- in which he would cite the current human rights violations Amnesty was confronting in the UK. He would suggest, without mincing his words, that if the government wished to take account of his work for human rights, what mattered was to redress those abuses. In comparison with the world into which he was born, Benenson left behind him one changed so fundamentally that it is hard to conceive of the scale of the transformation. Nearly a hundred human rights treaties and other legal instruments are now in force internationally. Over ninety percent of the world's countries are now party to the most comprehensive of these, the twin international covenants on civil/political and economic/social rights. Almost all of those states have now formally given the right to their citizens to make international complaints. In addition to the human rights bodies of the United Nations, there are now regional intergovernmental bodies covering up to three-quarters of the world's nations. Women's rights, child rights, minority rights, workers' rights, the rights of disabled persons - all of these have been codified and strengthened by successive declarations, conventions and acts of national legislation. Torturers have become international outlaws. As we enter the 21st Century, more than half the countries of the world have rejected the death penalty - either by abolishing it altogether or ceasing to carry out executions. However, the most extraordinary phenomenon - and the one on which Peter Benenson left his indelible mark - is the birth of what has come to be known globally as "civil society". Today there are well over a thousand domestic and regional organizations working to protect human rights. Among them, his brainchild Amnesty International, is one of the best known, with almost 2 million members, subscribers and supporters in more than 64 countries and territories. But to think of Peter Benenson merely as the founder of one organization (indeed he started several others) is to misread perhaps the single most distinctive political feature of the period from the end of the Second World War to the present: the emergence of organized, non-violent public opinion as an increasingly powerful force in domestic and international politics. Historians may locate its origins in any number of social changes following the war. But there is one event that will incontestably be told and retold in any social history of that period. It is the story of a man in a bowler hat reading his newspaper on the London underground in late 1960. He reads a small item about two Portuguese students being sentenced to seven years' imprisonment for raising their glasses in a toast to freedom. He is outraged, decides to go to the Portuguese embassy in London to make a personal protest and then changes his mind. Instead he gets off at Trafalgar Square station and makes his way to the church of St Martin's-in-the-Fields. He goes in, sits down for three-quarters of an hour, and thinks. In his words, "I went in to see what could really be done effectively, to mobilize world opinion. It was necessary to think of a larger group which would harness the enthusiasm of people all over the world who were anxious to see a wider respect for human rights." That man was Peter Benenson, then a barrister in London. When he came outside into the square, he had his idea. Within months, he launched his Appeal for Amnesty with a front page article in The Observer newspaper. Nothing quite like it had ever been attempted on such a scale before. The response was overwhelming, as if people worldwide were waiting for exactly such a signal. Newspapers in over a dozen countries picked up the appeal. Over a thousand letters poured in within the first six months. And the post-bags of the world's heads of state changed forever. Benenson's idea was so simple, perhaps that's why he remained so shy of personal publicity throughout his life. Termed "one of the larger lunacies of our time" by one of its critics, a network of letter writers was set up to bombard governments with individual appeals on behalf of prisoners jailed and ill-treated in violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In an age of self-aggrandisement, his modesty was almost hard to fathom. He never went forward to receive the numerous accolades showered upon Amnesty, known universally by its candle in barbed wire. His mind was always fixed on what had not been accomplished and the countless victims still to be rescued. "The candle burns not for us," he declared, "but for all those whom we failed to rescue from prison, who were shot on the way to prison, who were tortured, who were kidnapped, who 'disappeared'. That is what the candle is for." In later years, as Amnesty's impact grew exponentially and went on to harness the power of the international news media, other groups began to adopt and adapt its methods in support of their causes. The extraordinary impact of the environmental movement twenty years later, the women's rights movement and a host of other single-issue and coalition groups, working in their own countries or across national boundaries, can often be traced to the early examination they made of the methods Benenson's organization was using. Today we take the power of charities, voluntary groups and people's campaigns for granted. But before that day in Trafalgar Square - the day on which a single newspaper reader decided it was time for a change - that power had yet to shake the world. Nothing has ever been quite the same since. As he said in 1961, lighting the first Amnesty candle, "I'm reminded of the words of a 16th century man sentenced to death by burning: We have today lit such a candle as shall never be put out." http://www.amnesty.ca/resource_centre/news/view.php?load=arcview&article=222 0&c=Resource+Centre+News ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:07:30 -0500 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Nash I recommend that you guys should take a look at Graham Nash's photography exhibit on his web site at: www.GrahamNash.com - if you haven't checked it out. An indescribable sensation to see a photo of Joan taken during her Blue era. (Blue. What a masterpiece. Don't get me started.) Graham captures her beautifully "listening to music." "Every picture has its shadows and it has some source of light..." Was she talking photography, painting or either/both? And who took the photo that became the cover of Blue anyway, ya'll? I forgot. - -Julius ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #109 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)