From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #108 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 9 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 108 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: de-evolution njc [Em ] Re: de-evolution njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc ["Scott and Jody"] Songs of a Prairie Girl ["David Henderson" ] Insomnia strikes again -- We Have a King [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] Songs of a Prairie Girl ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc ["Donna Binkley" ] (NJC) Seeking JM cd covers [Lori Fye ] Greetin' Cods! [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Randy Remote ] Re: Steely Dan ["Howard Wright" ] Re: Joni Songbook [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl ["rflynn@frontiernet.net" ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Brian Gross ] Re: de-evolution njc [Em ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Bob Muller ] Re: Insomnia strikes again -- We Have a King [Bob Muller ] RE: A Case of You - A Question ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC [Richard Goldman ] Over the Rhine, shameless promotion, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: de-evolution njc one that really got to me a couple weeks ago, was on the back window of a pickup, a diagram of a donkey with red white and blue stripes. (symbol of the Democratic party, right) and the caption says "got ammo?" Like what?? that guy wants to KILL something or someone? he wants to what? do away with democrats? all democrats? even my 90 year old grandmother? or? just *some* democrats? I try to be a peaceful person. But stickers like that are why I can't own a gun. Cuz I might stick it in his face and make him explain, on his knees, what the sticker means. Ugly, huh? and it goes on and on... like Bob Marley sang "so much trouble in the world".... sigh Em - --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > The bumper sticker that jars my slats is the one that has the symbol > for man > + the symbol for a woman = marriage, which usually has the Bush > bumper sticker > on the other side. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:11:29 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: de-evolution njc I said "There ya go, that's why you'll be going home > or some > other facility." I love her to pieces, but here she has a gay son, a husband > with Parkinson's disease (stem cell research), and she still voted for Bush. > Sometimes it is really hard to teach an old dog new tricks! > > Jimmy, in redneck land > It is the modern political conundrum, first exploited brilliantly by Ronald Reagan: to convince the masses who need publicly provided services that there taxes are too high. Of course, here in Florida we get a double dose of it. I hear students complain all the time about rising tuition rates. I always ask: Who did you vote for President? Who did you vote for Governor? Did you vote at all?? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:42:18 -0500 From: "Scott and Jody" Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc HAPPY BIRTHDAY Chuck!!! Sorry that we missed you too! We had some Birthday chocolates for you. We ate the ones for Wally (welcome chocolates). Scott and I found this great little Chocolatier right here in Portsmouth. They also carry the Uja seal. "Uncle John Approved" chocolates. I would send them, but they might melt in the mail... oh damn..what to do... jody - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wally Kairuz" To: "Chuck Eisenhardt" ; ; "jmdl" Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: [NortheastJonifest] march 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc > > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > CHUCK E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > i missed you in boston! > > have a great great great one! > > love, > > wally > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NortheastJonifest/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > NortheastJonifest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:06:52 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Songs of a Prairie Girl Bob Muller wrote: > Amazon has cleaned up the listing for "Songs Of A Prarie Girl" Mark wrote: >"Songs of a Prarie Girl"? Amazon needs to fire whoever was responsible for proof-reading this >entry. What exactly is this "Songs of . . . " guys? David NP Ja Rule, New York ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:03:25 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Insomnia strikes again -- We Have a King Hi gang, Tuesday morning, 5 a.m.-ish. This is what happens when you give a person a Mac, DSL and insomnia. (Did someone already do this? -- Oh, and btw, if I disappear, please send a jmdl delegation to look for me in such fun vacation spots as Libya and Syria -- look for a certain CIA aircraft parked nearby, and listen for my voice telling interrogators anything they f**king want to hear.) Sung to the tune of a Joni song with a similar name: We Have a King We have a king In a snowy-white castle Lately he's taken To facile-ly starting up war (Otherwise, he's a bore) He grins with contempt -- Oh, he makes me verklempt, What a ding-a-ling! He puts us in arrears While he tax-breaks his peers Let the people sing: We can't take this crap anymore He shouldna had another four We must take pains to evict this man We surely can -- I just know we can We have a king Looks like Alfred E. Neuman He needs to be shaken (He barely is human, or smart) His VP's a fart. Into Iraq he did rush With false rumors of WMD's Young folk come back in a sack From "defending" our "liberties" We can't take this crap anymore He shouldna had another four We must take pains to evict this man We surely can -- I just know we can We have a king Who spends millions on parties He lets all his flunkies Take most of the heat for his crimes (While he pursues pastimes) Tell me how he shows his face What an ass, for these awful times! He sends young folk over To fight a bad war While the country chimes: We can't take this crap anymore He shouldna had another four We must take pains to evict this man We surely can -- I just know we can Let's give him the can We surely can! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:54:24 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Songs of a Prairie Girl From this article in the JMDL Library http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1155 : "Saskatchewan will be hearing plenty from Mitchell in the next year. She's working on two albums as "curator," organizing her work into themes. One of those albums, Songs of a Prairie Girl, will feature songs about the province for the centennial next year." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:47:09 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc Happy Birthday Chuck! Hope you had a wonderful day. db >>> wallykai@fibertel.com.ar 3/7/2005 5:06:50 PM >>> H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y CHUCK E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i missed you in boston! have a great great great one! love, wally Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NortheastJonifest/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NortheastJonifest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:40:20 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Seeking JM cd covers Hi ... For a personal art project, I'm wondering if anyone here has scanned JM's cd covers in their original cd size (approx. 4.75 x 4.75 inches), in fairly high resolution? Any format is fine, although it's easiest for me to work with .jpg or .gif formats. I'm specifically looking for these covers: LOTC FTR C&S Hejira DJRD I would scan them myself but the cds are at home and I'm at work, and it's something I'd like to do today between other (work) projects. I can use smaller images from the web, but the quality for the ones I've found ain't great, and to stretch them to the size I prefer just makes it worse. Anyone? You can email them to me (or point me to an FTP location), at lrfye58@gmail.com Thanks! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:37:41 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Greetin' Cods! Hey, Lindsay, You said: <> I'm sure you heard this from a host of jmdlers, but that is such a fantastic idea!!! Hope it gets transmitted to the Both-Sided One, and gets done! Best, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:59:36 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Richard Flynn wrote: > >From this article in the JMDL Library > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1155 : > "Saskatchewan will be hearing plenty from Mitchell in the next year. She's > working on two albums as "curator," organizing her work into themes. One of > those albums, Songs of a Prairie Girl, will feature songs about the province > for the centennial next year." JONI, STOP THIS MADNESS!! How many of her songs are "about the province"? Approximately none, though there are passing mentions in a few, Paprika Plains probably has the most: Back in my home town They would have cleared the floor Just to watch the rain come down They're such sky oriented people Geared to changing weather "I come from open prairie, given some wisdom and alot of jive" (DJRD) Since this article is from last May, I assume the other CD comp. is one of the ones already released. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:11:22 +0000 From: "Howard Wright" Subject: Re: Steely Dan One other Joni-Steely Dan connection that I didn't see mentioned: Tom Scott. He played and did wind/brass arrangements on a number of their albums, but it's his work on Steely Dan's Aja and Joni's For The Roses that stand out to me. His arrangements made immeasurable contributions to these two albums. Neither would have been the same without him - he turned music that was already superb into something just out of this world. He seems to have had such amazing good taste, to be able to add touches with his arrangements that highlight, support and add interest to the music without ever dominating. A master! Howard Rob Steen wrote: >Quote: > >"Fagen & Becker were the best writers IMO during that rock jazz-influenced >music of the late 70s early 80s. Joni was well into her jazz period then >and she probably acknowledged them for the >brilliant artists they were. >There's such a sophistication in Steely Dan's music that's not unlike >Joni's. Have their paths never crossed?" >A hearty 'yeah' to that rationale. Their paths certainly appear to have >crossed only through >sessioneers and guests: Wayne Shorter; Larry Carlton; Victor Feldman (who >played on Hissing and Countdown to Ecstasy, the uppermost of the seven SD >albums in my top 50!); Pat Metheny went on tour with Joni and performed a >gorgeous version of Sign In Stranger with Don Fagen. I've another couple >of theories, though. 1) The fraternal Becker-Fagen dynamic would never >allow a third party to do any more than twiddle the odd knob (a la Gary >Katz); 2) for all their myriad virtues, Becker and Fagen don't seem to >have a terribly high opinion of >women. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:12:51 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Songbook In a message dated 3/8/05 7:23:14 AM, Rdalindley writes: << I have quite a few of Joni's early songbooks that I have purchased over the years on Ebay. I think I have the one that you're talking about. It has the Clouds cover painting as it's cover? Anyway - let me know which songs you're looking for/missing. As one sheet music collector to another I'd be happy to help. Rob Lindley >> Hey, Rob -- That may quite possibly be it -- but I can't seem to find the site, or link, where the songs in that book are/were listed. (I just tried jonimitchell.com, and found *some* of the sheet music books info). Can anyone who won one of those books at the 2003 Fest Raffle (in the bahn) help me out -- again, I think about six or eight songs that are NOT on any album. Urge For Going is probably among them, and Carnival In Kenora. Or better, can someone help me find the link I vaguely remember from 3 or 4 years ago, that lists all the sheet music from all of the books that are/were at one time available? Thanks to all, and especially to Rob for the offer, which i will take up as soon as i can give you the info as to which songs i need... best, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:19:43 -0500 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Quoting Randy Remote : > > JONI, STOP THIS MADNESS!! > > Since this article is from last May, I assume the other CD comp. > is one of the ones already released. > RR > > > We can only hope that this is so. A happy thought--this is the price JOni is exacting to let Rhino eventually to do a proper box set! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:34:25 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Though if it contains a totally remastered Paprika Plains I would buy it. Jerry > Quoting Randy Remote : > >> >> JONI, STOP THIS MADNESS!! > >> >> Since this article is from last May, I assume the other CD comp. >> is one of the ones already released. >> RR >> >> >> > > We can only hope that this is so. A happy thought--this is the price > JOni is exacting to let Rhino eventually to do a proper box set! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:43:54 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Quoting Randy Remote : > > JONI, STOP THIS MADNESS!! > > Since this article is from last May, I assume the other CD comp. > > is one of the ones already released. "rflynn@frontiernet.net" wrote: > We can only hope that this is so. A happy thought--this is the price > JOni is exacting to let Rhino eventually to do a proper box set! WHEN? When will we see a proper box set? When she's Myrtle's age????? As a left-handed male, I have my doubts as to ever seeing that day. But who knows? I've been REAL WRONG before! Brian in south jersey, where it is snowing and blowing, after a 70F day yesterday. Maybe it was the magnetic pulse blast that Jack couldn't stop last night ;-) Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:24:19 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: de-evolution njc hey folks - wanted to apologize for my earlier "outburst". I allowed my inner Tony Montana to surface and I regret it. :( Em - --- Em wrote: > Cuz I might stick it in his face and make him explain, on > his knees, what the sticker means. > Ugly, huh? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Randy Remote wrote: Well, I'm assuming that any song with Canada content will qualify? Song For Sharon with its reference to Maidstone, Coyote with a reference to Baljennie...and I guess there's more, but like you say at this point who gives a sh*t? This reissuing of already released stuff is insane. I think Joni doesn't want to retire, she wants to keep putting out product but rather than push herself to be creative she just takes this lazy way. Bob NP: Pearl Jam, "Go" - --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Insomnia strikes again -- We Have a King Hi Walt - thanks for taking advantage of your insomnia to share your creativity - I thought this was great. IHAK is a tough parody because the rhyme schemes are so darn tricky. I did one a couple years back for 2003 Fest and I wracked my brain and went thru several re-writes until I had something I was OK with. Keep up the good work - but do get some sleep. Bob NP: Skynyrd, "Free Bird" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Undercover - now with over 400 versions of BSN to choose from! FWIW I just passed 400 BSN's in our database: http://www.jmdl.com/undercover/ Of more significance to me is finding our FIRST "Two Grey Rooms" cover. Next milestones: 150 BYT's (now 132) 100 Circle Game's (now 87) 100 River's (now 83) Of course, I fully realize that I may hit the 500 mark for BSN's before I achieve any of these three! Bob NP: Ryan Adams, "Mara Lisa" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:56:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Mc Subject: A Case of You - A Question I've got a dumb question about "A Case of You." How does Joni get that cool sound on the intro? Is that a mandolin, dobro, banjo, banjitar/guitjo, etc. or just some kind of cool picking technique (like picking at the very end of the string right on the bridge). I'm sure it's an alt. tuning since this IS Joni, but any insights you have would help. I just love that sound, especially from the intro. Very distinctive. Plus the song is wonderful. I could imagine a lot of other arrangements that would be coo, but nothing could be better that this. Thanks, Matt Mc In Sunny Mississippi ================================================== "And I'll stand before you, and I'll bring a smile to your eyes." Neil Young "Motion Pictures" ================================================== __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 21:10:14 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: A Case of You - A Question It's a dulcimer. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mc Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:56 PM To: joni mitchell list Subject: A Case of You - A Question I've got a dumb question about "A Case of You." How does Joni get that cool sound on the intro? Is that a mandolin, dobro, banjo, banjitar/guitjo, etc. or just some kind of cool picking technique (like picking at the very end of the string right on the bridge). I'm sure it's an alt. tuning since this IS Joni, but any insights you have would help. I just love that sound, especially from the intro. Very distinctive. Plus the song is wonderful. I could imagine a lot of other arrangements that would be coo, but nothing could be better that this. Thanks, Matt Mc In Sunny Mississippi ================================================== "And I'll stand before you, and I'll bring a smile to your eyes." Neil Young "Motion Pictures" ================================================== __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 18:42:57 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC That is such fabulous news, Julius! You have scooped Rufus's people! They haven't announced it yet Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC oop! I forgot to include the link to the KCRW Morning Becomes Ecclectic Webcast (RealPlayer) with Rufus and Chris Stills from Oct. '03. It is utterly fabulous: http://kcrw.com/smil/mb031021Rufus_Wainwright.ram ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 21:20:04 -0500 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] march 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! njc Thanks so much, to all who thought to drop a line on the occasion of my mumblety-mumble-eth birthday. Your messages greatly cheered this old faaht, I can tell you. Chucke, of a certain age, but, who isn't? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:02:38 -0500 From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Stiils in Europe w/Rufus W. NJC Bravo! Nice "Harvest," Chris and Rufus. Neil would be proud, I'm sure. Thanks for sharing that video, Richard. That was just super. In a bit of synchro, which seems to follow me wherever I go...I was just reading the Martin Guitar Company newsletter from January of this year. There's an article about Stephen Stills and his new Martin signature edition guitar, which was interesting. But there is a little sidebar, "Stephen Stills Becomes Proud Papa": "Stephen Stills and his wife Kristen are the proud parents of a baby boy. Oliver Ragland Stills was born Monday, October 25, in Los Angeles, weighing 8 pounds 2 ounces. Stephen reports that both Kristen and Oliver are doing great, and "Daddy" is elated. Oliver Ragland was named in honor of Stephen's frequent bandmate Neil Young, who was born Neil Percival Kenneth Ragland Young" Now me: What an incredible honor to Neil, I thought, and what a gesture of brotherhood by Stephen. Reminds me, there's more than one meaning to "harmony." - -Julius In a message dated 3/8/2005 9:42:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Richard Goldman writes: http://kcrw.com/smil/mb031021Rufus_Wainwright.ram >That is such fabulous news, Julius! >You have scooped Rufus's people! They haven't announced it yet everyone knows now, tee hee, as I've shared it on his >website/messagboard. >Her brother, Chris, has performed with Rufus on several occasions, >sounds a lot like his dad, and is good friends with Rufus, fluent in >French, were on Morning Becomes Ecclectic together - you can watch the >webcast of them both here, doing Neil Young's "Harvest" and Rufus's >"Complainte De La Butte" from the film "Moulin Rouge". It's >gorrrrrgeous. >The "Folk Dynasty", as Rufus likes to call it, continues to get bigger. >Amazing. Thanks *so* much for this great news. >~Richard >n.p. "The One You Love", Rufus Wainwright from Want Two ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 20:48:04 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Lord au gratin! -- njc A Girl Called Eddy tonight in Cambridge. Oh, my. I bought their CD last weekend because of Azeem's rave. Then tonight I braved a blizzard to go see 'em. They are many, many steps ahead of the pack, on CD and in person. It's hard to describe what makes them so perfect. The words, the music. (You know how that is.) - --Smurf NP: Tears All Over Town __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 02:07:00 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Over the Rhine, shameless promotion, njc Cincinnati's own "Over The Rhine" have a new one, due in stores at the end of the month, DRUNKARD'S PRAYER. Here are two comments from fans about "Born" and the title track. It's not driving music. It's music to ease your way. It's the warm glow of codeine. It's a steady rain as you slip towards sleep. >>>> I've just listened to the mp3's. Wow. It's amazing how pain can turn into something so beautiful. >>>> >> The title track's been off for five minutes and my whole body's still covered in chills. Are we allowed to feel this deeply? I mean as human beings, are we really supposed to feel this depth of emotion? I don't mean to be crass, but to the atheists in the house, how can you hear Karin's voice and *not know there's a God? >> Hear here: https://www.pastemusic.com/product/1088 All the best, Lama PS Catherine, don't buy it; watch your mailbox in a month or so. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #108 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)