From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #98 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 1 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 098 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- weekends out [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Shivon Robinsong (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] RE: Does anyone have? Joni @ N.O. Jazz Festival May 6, 1995 ["Ross, Les] gathering of birthday fairies, gnomes, reminders, etc. (njc) ["Anne Sands] Re: academy award party njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Does anyone have? Joni @ N.O. Jazz Festival May 6, 1995 ["John T. F] Re: academy award party NJC ["mike pritchard" ] another happy birthday njc [Garret ] Re: academy award party =?ISO-8859-1?B?oE5KQw==?= [JRMCo1@aol.com] Hello from UK & Starbucks ["Ric Robinson" ] RE: Sherelle's post NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Hello from UK & Starbucks [Randy Remote ] Re: academy award party njc [Randy Remote ] Re: Hello from UK & Starbucks ["Ric Robinson" ] NJC Re: academy award party njc [Bob Muller ] Hollywood dreck NJC ["David Henderson" ] was: academy award party njc/now: Sideshow and Antonio's hairdos [Smurf <] Happybirthdaytoyou, Chris -- NJC [Smurf ] teach your children revisited NJC [mags h ] test njc ["bruce,kimerer" ] Re: Hollywood dreck NJC ["Gary Z." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:47:13 +0100 (CET) From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: weekends out So the weekend's out, and I guess it's kinda late, but I also would say Edit and the kingpin (Shadows and Lights version) would be a great choice for Garrets much debated compilation. Well thats all for today. Glad you people love Sondre, I love him too, extremerly charming boy best Oddmund ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:40:38 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Shivon Robinsong (NJC) Mags wrote: > I'm participating in a Sing For Your Life workshop this weekend in Winterpeg, > with Shivon Robinsong. Wish I'd seen this earlier as I would have liked you to pass on my love to Shivon (Vonny, as I've always known her). I shared a house with her on Gertrude Avenue in Winnipeg back in the mid seventies and had lunch with her a while back when she was passing through London. Back in 1982 Shivon was one of the founders of the 'Hollyhock' retreat centre on Cortes Island BC http://www.hollyhock.ca/ (which looks like an amazing place to 'get back to the garden') and more recently she co-founded Vancouver's now 300-strong 'Gettin' Higher Choir' based on the philosopy that "anyone can sing" - http://www.shivon.com PaulC PS I see that one of this year's programs at Hollyhock in August is "Song Of The Drum, Dance Of Life" which is being co-led by Bruce Langhorne, who is described as "the inspiration for Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" - never knew that - quite a claim to fame, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:04:43 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Does anyone have? Joni @ N.O. Jazz Festival May 6, 1995 ...where's a chap to acquire a copy of this remastered version of the N.O. gig? (off list to me if you can help with this.) Cheers and many thanks Les (London) BTW there is a remastered version of that show done by our own MarkD that sounds a lot better than other versions I have heard. Also at that point TCCOL was still called Loves Cries. Best Paz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:46:43 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: gathering of birthday fairies, gnomes, reminders, etc. (njc) Imagine if you will: WallyK, Smurph, Jody and me nestled into a table at the Summer Shack on a cold Boston winter's day. Chowda (chowder to the rest of you), crab cakes, french fries, shrimp, and illicit "brown bag" chocolate were consumed. We laughed a lot. And there are probably about a million photos of all kinds. (Wallista, dearest, I do want credit for the artistic shot of the waiter - your camera, my keen sense of observation for a moment not to be missed :-) ) But, alas, I believe the chocolate acceptance proved our theory wrong... Smurph, I do think you need that mural in your kitchen. Still not sure who the hot dogs were, but I really think the Narraganset Beer bottle was Steve Martin. Did you notice the red crab and lobster had no features? Hmmm..... Jody, so glad you hung in there and found your way through the "cow paths." Probably explains why we drive the way we do. At one point, we realized we were the birthday creatures of the list - minus our dear Jimmy in the Sunshine State. We toasted to you, Jimmy. The time passed too quickly. Why can't we do this every weekend? ChuckE, we missed you - hope you're feeling better. lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:31:25 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: academy award party njc Missed the first part & fell asleep during some of the rest...lol...the only movie I've seen this year is sideways... I should have gone over to santa ynez where they were hosting an academy award party at the restaurant where much of it was filmed... the Oscars are lots less exciting than the grammy's I realized once again... I do like watching for the fashion stuff... loved beyonce's black dress but hated her gaudy jewelry... & why, with so many great singers out there, did she get to sing 2 songs? Afterwards saw part of an interview with hunter s Thompson on Charlie Rose... hard to understand much of what he was saying... his gift was writing not speaking... Yuck its raining AGAIN here in socal... rain go away ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:09:11 -0500 From: "John T. Folden" Subject: Re: Does anyone have? Joni @ N.O. Jazz Festival May 6, 1995 I would love info on this myself, much thanks. John On Feb 28, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Ross, Les wrote: > ...where's a chap to acquire a copy of this remastered version of the > N.O. > gig? > (off list to me if you can help with this.) > Cheers and many thanks > Les (London) > > BTW there is a remastered version of that show done by our own MarkD > that > sounds a lot better than other versions I have heard. Also at that > point > TCCOL was still called Loves Cries. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:36:01 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: academy award party NJC >>I want "Million..." to win for lighting and editing, which were incredible in that movie...and I want it to win for Screenplay, too, because it was finally a movie about poor people in America with dignity and honor.<< Much as I hate to disagree with someone I generally agree with, I have to say that (IMHO) most of the poor people in this movie didn't seem to be treated with dignity and honour. Maggie's family were portrayed as tattooed trailer trash straight from central casting, as was their lawyer. Danger didn't seem very bright either. Maybe Morgan Freeman's role was more what Julius was thinking of, or maybe Maggie herself? mike in bcn np - delivery man - Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:09:34 +0000 From: Garret Subject: another happy birthday njc A little birdie tells me it may well be the birthday of Chris Marshall .... I hear he's almost thirty;-) Happy Birthday GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:47:53 -0500 From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: academy award party =?ISO-8859-1?B?oE5KQw==?= That's correct, Mike. I was referring to Maggie herself for the most part, and to some extent Freeman's character and Eastwood's. Moreover, my point (poorly articulated, admittedly) was that most all popular cinema these days are tales of the rich and their problems- with lavish homes, fancy cars and nary an economic worry in the world. It just seems to me that a movie like this confers a measure of soul status to a multitude of working class heroes, poor working women who pull themselves up by their own bootstraps- difficulty and obstacles be damned, even if these hardships are embodied by her own family. My own mother was like that...but, I liked that Maggie's heroics and transcendence had absolutely nothing to do with motherhood or "boyfriends." Having said that, I will agree completely that the characters that are Maggie's family are mere caricatures, really. Not well-developed at all. The viewer is given no clue to what their motivations might be, except abject greed. The tired trailer trash stereotype garnered from the Jerry Springer generation. It's a glaring weakness in the film. But it's one I'm prepared to overlook because of the stellar performances of the three main characters in the film. "Million Dollar Baby" is Clint, Hillary and Morgan's baby alone, really. I prefer to think of the other characters theatrically...like the three witches in Macbeth, for example...of limited signifcance...as enjoyable for comic relief and contrast as they are ignorable. They just represent known evils. They appear during act or scene changes. They are for "meanwhile, back at the ranch...". MDB succeeds because it is effective at mood shift and emotional reversal of expectation. As for Danger, he was there to accentuate and reenforce the to-the-bone goodness of Freeman's character, nothing more. This penniless old black half-blind, recovering alcoholic who coulda been a contender, is perhaps half the man he once was: he's been battered and bloodied, sometimes even by Eastwood's character, but he's not embittered and his head is unbowed. He's a living blues song: all heart and hurt. And he won't stand by to see anyone beat down a weaker man for cruel sport. Danger's dream to be champ is a constant reminder of how he squandered his own. Also, Danger represents the can-do don't give up, don't give up, don't ever get up ethic, which I take heart in. It has nothing to do with brightness. Freeman's character is his little mentally challenged brother's keeper. What's more beautiful than that? In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Thanks for asking about that, Mike. I hope this clarifies my meaning. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:14:52 -0000 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Hello from UK & Starbucks Hello there, Newbie here, my profile is in the gallery if you're interested. Anyway, I thought I'd post to say hello and to ask if anyone knows how I can get the Starbucks CD as they're not stocking it over here at the moment and the website won't ship outside the US. Ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:00:31 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Sherelle's post NJC You are so right David! The complexities of human nature are also humbling. They make me feel like Joni's lyrics "Both Sides Now" (forgive me for missing a phrase or two) "I've looked at life from both sides now-From win or lose and still somehow-It's life's illusion I recall-I really don't know life....at all" I think that about says it all on the subject. Life is so complex and amazing. We get to the end of the journey only to realize that we never knew that much about it anyway. That's why I love Joni so much. She figured this out a long time ago. I think the re-enactment is supposed to bring healing or at least that is what I've heard. One can only hope.... Sherelle >From: "David Henderson" >To: "Vince Lavieri" , "Sherelle Smith" > >CC: >Subject: RE: Sherelle's post NJC >Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:52:34 -0500 > >That is such a surreal vision, beautiful really. Sometimes the >complexities >of human nature are so overwhelming, it's almost frightening - even when >it's hopeful and reassuring. I have never understood what makes people >want >to partake in these Civil War reenactments. Isn't it puzzling? Does it >perpetuate the negative feelings of the time? Or is it cathartic in some >way? > >David >NP Nina Simone, Trouble in Mind > > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Vince Lavieri [mailto:revrvl@comcast.net] > >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:08 PM > >>>To: Sherelle Smith > >>>Cc: joni@smoe.org; jdhenderson@nyc.rr.com > >>>Subject: Re: Sherelle's post NJC > >>> > >>> > >>>Muskegon: my once and new home: > >>>Catch the Wave with a new Muskegon web site > >>>http://www.co.muskegon.mi.us > >>> > >>>On Feb 23, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thank yo so much for your response. The words "Heritage not hate" > >>>> sound hopeful...like a plea for understanding, but as a Southerner, I > >>>> am glad to hear your opinion. If indeed the flag was created as a > >>>> direct symbol for the continuation of slavery, I don't see how I can > >>>> embrace it in any way. One of my friends was a Civil War buff and >just > >>>> loved the history.. He flew a Confederate Flag at their campsite by > >>>> the lake in Ohio. It should have been obvious to them why Rob and I > >>>> always made our excuses not to come spend time with them there. > >>> > >>>In my old community they had for many years one of those re-enactment > >>>things every May. They were actually quite worthwhile, I was > >>>fascinated by the whole thing. Never understood why anyone would be a > >>>Reb, or for the WW2 re-enacters, a Nazi SS officer, but I wasn't there > >>>to challenge them. > >>> > >>>Was there once walking back when the engagements had ended, through the > >>>camps, with a member of the parish who began to collapse with the heat, > >>> A confederate soldier instantly whipped out a bottle of water, much > >>>needed, and offered a place to sit - in the confederate camp. After > >>>Richard recovered a bit we started to walk to the road and Richard was > >>>in obvious distress and a Nazi Waffen SS solider pulled up in a jerry > >>>jeep and gave Richard a ride. It was such confusing visuals, I still > >>>can't unwrap it all. > >>> > >>>Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:23:52 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Hello from UK & Starbucks Hi Ric- Welcome to the list- Hopefully someone who lives near a Starbucks can snag one for you. I live way out in the sticks-I could mail order you one, but it would be about $6 to ship to me, then another $9 or $10 to ship to UK. Good luck-btw there are 2 different discs, one is Joni's music, as chosen by friends and musicians, the other is "Artists Choice", which is various songs by others, chosen by Joni, $13 & $15 respectively. RR Ric Robinson wrote: > Hello there, > Newbie here, my profile is in the gallery if you're interested. > Anyway, I thought I'd post to say hello and to ask if anyone knows how I can > get the Starbucks CD as they're not stocking it over here at the moment and > the website won't ship outside the US. > > Ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:37:33 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: academy award party njc Kate Bennett wrote: > ... loved > beyonce's black dress but hated her gaudy jewelry... & why, with so many > great singers out there, did she get to sing 2 songs? 3 of the 5 songs, but who's counting? Chris Rock's opening was pretty funny. Also funny when Hillary Swank won, and the announcer said "This is Hillary Swank's x nomination...blah blah...and the first time the best actress award has been given for the portrayal of a female boxer". Like they are the new minority or something. Also kind of wierd... whenever a Latino won something, they zoomed in on every Latino in the audience, same for the African-Americans. Discrimination? Can't we all just get a bong? I mean along? RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:44:13 -0000 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Re: Hello from UK & Starbucks Thanks for that, I think I've got the one of her music sorted (via Ebay), but there is no sign of the one she chose, which I'd also like to have. So, if anyone can help I'd be very grateful! I also have a very interesting cover of BSN on the way ... in Welsh !!! Will hopefully be able to post full details in a week or so and may have MP3 available too. Stay tuned. Ric - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" To: "Ric Robinson" ; Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Hello from UK & Starbucks > Hi Ric- > Welcome to the list- > Hopefully someone who lives near a Starbucks can snag one for you. > I live way out in the sticks-I could mail order you one, but it would be > about $6 to ship to me, then another $9 or $10 to ship to UK. > Good luck-btw there are 2 different discs, one is Joni's music, > as chosen by friends and musicians, the other is "Artists Choice", > which is various songs by others, chosen by Joni, $13 & $15 respectively. > RR > > Ric Robinson wrote: > >> Hello there, >> Newbie here, my profile is in the gallery if you're interested. >> Anyway, I thought I'd post to say hello and to ask if anyone knows how I >> can >> get the Starbucks CD as they're not stocking it over here at the moment >> and >> the website won't ship outside the US. >> >> Ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:05:18 -0500 From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: another happy birthday njc Happy Birthday, Chris Marshall, wherever you are. You're one of the best. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:52:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Hello from UK & Starbucks Hello Ric, and welcome to the JMDL...funny you should ask, I just mailed one of the "Artist's Choice" CD's across the pond to my good pal Jacky. I'd be happy to do the same for you - the cost breaks down like this: CD: $14.95 Airmail: $4.00 Padded Mailer: $.40 Hearing Joni's fave tracks...priceless! If that offer interests you, let me know. I do have a Paypal account so you can transfer funds that way or just mail cash. And as the Joni covers Wiz of the group I'm interested in your Welsh BSN...who's the artist may I ask? I wonder if it's one of the 390 I've already identified (2 more today!) Bob NP: Big Yellow Taxi, "Black Crow" Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:00:31 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: academy award party njc Most of the awards went as I figured they would...I especially loved that Sideways and Eternal Sunshine won the writing awards they deserved. Paul Giamatti should have gotten an acting nom instead of the one they wasted on Clint...I mean they KNEW he was going to win the director prize and of course Jamie Foxx was going to win Actor regardless. And like you say, what was up with Beyonce singing three songs?? Not that I object to looking at Beyonce, mind you...and the guy who won the song award sang a lovely portion of his own song as his acceptance speech - what a beautiful falsetto, he should have sung the whole thing. And what in the hell was the deal with Adam Duritz and his Sideshow Bob haircut?? LOL I was laughing my ass off. Thought Chris Rock was OK...not very quick on his feet which surprised me. I loved the skewering he gave Dubya, not appropriate to the event but I still dug it. Bob NP: Maxwell, "Sympton Unknown" Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:16:53 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Hollywood dreck NJC >Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:57:40 -0800 (PST) >From: Bob Muller >Subject: Re: Ray Charles NJC >So, let me get this straight, Mack...you don't want to support high-quality stuff like Hotel Rwanda, Sideways, >Finding Neverland, & Million Dollar Baby, yet you fork over your hard-earned dough for uber-Hollywood-dreck >like Troy and Alexander, and you wonder why Hollywood keeps the dreck coming? >Don't be offended, just playing devil's advocate with ya, dude. >Bob Hey Mack, I know what you mean, and I hear Troy and Alexander are pretty darn bad, but I would recommend a few films I saw this year that were nominated: excellent The Motorcycle Diaries, stunning Hotel Rwanda (underrated), really good but maybe slightly overrated Sideways, and Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, thoroughly fascinating (although I know you either love Kaufman or hate him - the two friends I saw this with hated it). I never thought Colin Farrell was anything but a playboy until I saw two movies recently: he gives a good turn in a b-thriller called Phone Booth, and he gives a startling fantastic turn in A Home at the End of the World, a movie I loved that made me think, well, maybe this guy can actually act . . . David NP Green Day ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:46:29 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: was: academy award party njc/now: Sideshow and Antonio's hairdos Mr. Muller wrote: > And what in the > hell was the deal with Adam Duritz and his Sideshow > Bob haircut?? LOL I was laughing my ass off. THAT'S why his 'do looked so familiar! Duh, it's obvious! Boy, have I been slow getting that one. And to think "The Simpsons" is practically the only TV show I watch *and* pay attention to -- and that I've always admired Sideshow Bob's hair. While we're on the subject of hair, how does Antonio Banderas manage to always look as if he has damp hair? What is the product that does that? Maybe I should try it. I've been having trouble looking sexy lately. I had the Academy Awards on in the background last night and it rarely caught my attention -- maybe because I've missed a lot of the big films lately ("Million Dollar Baby," "Ray"), although I have seen lots of smaller movies ("Born into Brothels," "Sideways"). Chris Rock always makes me laugh, but last night he didn't. I loved "Sit your asses down," but for me the show and the comedy went downhill after that. I think there are still good movies being made, but where, oh where is the glamor of yesteryear? (Oh yeah - -- dead.) It seems as if most movie stars have become ordinary and often just plain tacky. Too picked-over by the media, or something. I don't know what it is, because it's not always talent that's lacking. It's some kind of illumination from within -- or an appearance of it -- that once separated movie stars from the rest of the unwashed. Rock introduced Dustin Hoffman and Barbra Streisand as "a couple of old Fockers." Is it just me, or is a little bit of the magic gone? - -- Smurf NPIMH: "I AM BIG! It's the pictures that got small." - -- Norma Desmond __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:12:50 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Happybirthdaytoyou, Chris -- NJC - --- Garret sez: > A little birdie tells me it may well be the birthday > of Chris Marshall Sorry, Chris, but things are getting pretty sloppy around Birthday Central. The Birthday Fairy is at this moment flying back home to Birthday Fairy Land down past Mexico way. Jody the Birthday Reminder finally took a day off, God love her. Anne the Birthday Poet doesn't even know it. And I, the lowly Birthday Gnome, have been putting far too much time into looking for something that pays a little better. Hope you have -- or had -- a great day, Chris. Bottoms up! - --Smurf PS: Thanks for fixing Queen Lulu's computer. And where have you been? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:43:00 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: teach your children revisited NJC Ive just had a good listen to the song and I can hear the song behind the song...so it's not really what we know as a secret song per se, which is a song not listed on a CD track....this one is sung simultaneously, while they sing something else. Kind of like that canticle in Simon and Garfunkel's Scarborough Fair. Is there a technical term for this ? Pretty damned clever. Mags.... np: you guessed it, teach your children........ lovin' that vitamin 'h' anyone who knows Shivon Robinsong (hi Paul) will know what I mean by that ;-) Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:32:51 -0500 From: "bruce,kimerer" Subject: test njc Do my posts show up here/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:29:51 -0500 From: "Gary Z." Subject: Re: Hollywood dreck NJC Yes, David, I LOVED "A Home at the End of the World." Thought it was a great film, love Sissy Spacek, and the Nyro scene was very cool. I highly recommend this film. Best regards, Gary David Henderson wrote: >I never thought Colin Farrell was anything but a playboy until I saw two >movies recently: he gives a good turn in a b-thriller called Phone Booth, and he gives a startling fantastic turn in A Home at the End of the World, a movie I loved that made me think, well, maybe this guy can actually act . . > > >David >NP Green Day ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #98 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)