From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #80 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, February 19 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 080 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc ["McMillan] was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards/junkfood -njc [Smurf ] Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc [Catherine] D-to-A converter, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Sweet Home Alabama, oh sweet home, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:52:47 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc To my way of thinking, the best VietNam era film depicting combat was "We Were Soldiers". I wasn't a grunt. I was medivac crew chief on a C-130, so I was only in VN 5-10 minutes at a time. What I know about it came from the guys I hauled out of there. My personal experience would fill a thimble. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "McMillan Brad" ; "Lori Fye" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc > no no no! it "worked" in Platoon! this song was used elsewhere too, > dumbly. Should have figured out where or what flick or show before I > posted. In "Platoon" the meaning was definatley clear and that was a > great flick - tho hard to watch. > :) > Em > > --- McMillan Brad wrote: > > > Oh, and I think the flick you saw was Platoon, an anti-war war movie > > if > > there ever was one. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Em" > > To: "Lori Fye" ; "McMillan Brad" > > > > Cc: > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards > > -njc > > > > > > > thats like I saw some flick - forget what it was - that was using > > > "Fortunate Son" as some kind of "gung-ho - let's go" (off to war) > > song. > > > Don't they know its ANTI war, that song??? > > > I didn't get it. > > > Em > > > > > > --- Lori Fye wrote: > > > > > > > > The other day, the local FM "classic rock" station was playing > > > > CSN&Y "Ohio". > > > > > I had to explain to the office what it was about. They were > > happily > > > > singing > > > > > along with the radio without a clue. > > > > > > > > Oh yeah, THAT's a happy song! "Four dead in Ohio ..." > > > > > > > > Do these people LISTEN to what they're singing??? > > > > > > > > Lori, > > > > utterly convinced that the gene pool is diluted > > > > (and who, incidentally, grew up very near Kent) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:03:42 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards/junkfood -njc About the Grammy Awards, Lori wrote: > "Junkfood for juveniles ..." > "So much confetti ... on my TV set ..." I had the show on in the background as I was trying to destroy my printer once and for all, damn it! The process requires special attention to detail, so no TV watching while my tech mind takes over. But I was appalled when I looked up at one point and saw that they had the Blind Boys standing behind a coffin prop while they sang. How tacky! And God forgive me for my tacky thought that the Grammy people wouldn't have made someone with the ability to see stand in such a gruesome set. I hate to put down the entire show because I really didn't watch it and I know many people here were entertained by various acts, but I couldn't help but think of all the great music that is being made right now by first-rate performers who may never get the exposure a show like the this brings to so many lesser "entertainers." And the big loser there is the immediate world; the people being denied the chance to see/hear something great for a change without having to veer off down Memory Lane. I tuned in as as WayLo and Mark (Marc?) Antony (Anthony?) were shrieking at each other throughout some godforsaken drama of a song while they were wearing bright costumes in a set that was supposed to be their glamorous bedroom. I don't even know where to begin to tell you everything that I think is just plain wrong about that, but I'd rather think of something nice, like the road to Baljennie near my old home town. Have a great weekend, - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:09:15 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Led Zep doing "Banquet" NJC well maybe but I'm not risking it.. <<,, I totally can't even BEGIN to presume how it would sound.Food for thought tho!!!!!!! would it be one of their acoustic-ish>> Although I love Zepp III, too, Em, I would have to say that Banquet definitely should not be acoustic-ish. Think more along the lines of Joni and her rock band doing this song from the "Refuge of the Roads" video, if you have this video. Maybe that would help in guiding your imagination. :) Mia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:21:58 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc About young 'uns singing "Ohio," Brad wrote: > They were happily singing > along with the radio without a clue. That's pretty darn clueless, Brad. I mean they must have been repeating the "four dead in Ohio" lines over and over again if they were signing along. I think people of all ages are pretty clueless about the Stones' "Paint It Black." It's really about someone driven to the depths of despair over his girlfriend's death. Enjoy! PAINT IT BLACK I see a red door and I want it painted black No colors anymore I want them to turn black I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes I have to turn my head until my darkness goes I see a line of cars and theyre all painted black With flowers and my love both never to come back I see people turn their heads and quickly look away Like a new born baby it just happens evry day I look inside myself and see my heart is black I see my red door and it has been painted black Maybe then Ill fade away and not have to face the facts Its not easy facin up when your whole world is black No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue I could not foresee this thing happening to you If I look hard enough into the settin sun My love will laugh with me before the mornin comes I see a red door and I want it painted black No colors anymore I want them to turn black I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes I have to turn my head until my darkness goes Hmm, hmm, hmm,... I wanna see it painted, painted black Black as night, black as coal I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black Yeah! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:27:27 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: re: Led Zep doing "Banquet" NJC well maybe but I'm not risking it.. Hi Mia, nope haven't managed to pick up ROTR yet. Someday tho I will have it in my hot little hand! and the sun will shine in my back door that day! :) I was thinking something like Gallows Pole where it starts out "nice and easy" but it ends " nice -and-ROUGH"! lol!!!!! can you tell its Friday? I gotta rock and roll bone. Life is decent! Hope everyone is having a great evening. Bless you all. Em - --- mia ortlieb wrote: > <<,, I totally can't even BEGIN to presume how it would sound.Food > for > thought tho!!!!!!! would it be one of their acoustic-ish>> > > Although I love Zepp III, too, Em, I would have to say that Banquet > definitely should not be acoustic-ish. Think more along the lines of > Joni > and her rock band doing this song from the "Refuge of the Roads" > video, if > you have this video. Maybe that would help in guiding your > imagination. > :) > > Mia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:33:25 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc Smurf I felt "Paint it Black" was used to chillingly wonderful effect over the closing credits of "Devils Advocate". dang man, it don't get much better.... almost an anthem. My hair went up. In a good way. :) em - --- Smurf wrote: > About young 'uns singing "Ohio," Brad wrote: > > > They were happily singing > > along with the radio without a clue. > > That's pretty darn clueless, Brad. I mean they must > have been repeating the "four dead in Ohio" lines over > and over again if they were signing along. > > I think people of all ages are pretty clueless about > the Stones' "Paint It Black." It's really about > someone driven to the depths of despair over his > girlfriend's death. > > Enjoy! > > PAINT IT BLACK > > I see a red door and I want it painted black > No colors anymore I want them to turn black > I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer > clothes > I have to turn my head until my darkness goes > > I see a line of cars and theyre all painted black > With flowers and my love both never to come back > I see people turn their heads and quickly look away > Like a new born baby it just happens evry day > > I look inside myself and see my heart is black > I see my red door and it has been painted black > Maybe then Ill fade away and not have to face the > facts > Its not easy facin up when your whole world is black > > No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue > I could not foresee this thing happening to you > If I look hard enough into the settin sun > My love will laugh with me before the mornin comes > > I see a red door and I want it painted black > No colors anymore I want them to turn black > I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer > clothes > I have to turn my head until my darkness goes > > Hmm, hmm, hmm,... > I wanna see it painted, painted black > Black as night, black as coal > I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky > I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted > black > Yeah! > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:38:51 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc About "Fortunate Son," Em wrote: > no no no! it "worked" in Platoon! this song was used > elsewhere too, > dumbly. Hmm. Could it have been "Koyaanisqatsi?" XO, - --Smurf PS: http://www.imdb.com/find?q=koyaniqati;tt=on;nm=on;mx=20 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:10:47 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc rotf!!!! no, Smurf! 'twar'nt.... i am almost positive. :) Em - --- Smurf wrote: > About "Fortunate Son," Em wrote: > > > no no no! it "worked" in Platoon! this song was used > > elsewhere too, > > dumbly. > > > Hmm. Could it have been "Koyaanisqatsi?" > > XO, > > --Smurf > > PS: http://www.imdb.com/find?q=koyaniqati;tt=on;nm=on;mx=20 > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:21:17 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc Lori Fye wrote: >> >> > >Kinda like when you're in a lesbian nightclub and the DJ starts >playing "It's Raining Men"? > > maybe in the dark he thinks you are all gay men? - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:29:29 -0800 (PST) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: Re: Fresh Air interview njc re my statement > we are never victims in reality> colin> that I don't believe to be true. People , especially children, are often victimised by stuff beyond their control.< you are so right, my hasty comment was not well expressed at all... i was thinking in terms of adults & perceptions (this discussion grew out of our thoughts regarding giving up a child for adoption) ... adults, i believe have the opportunity to change their perception about what may have happened to them in their childhood which can completely turn things around for themselves (rather than remain in the limiting victim role)... colin clearly you have done such a thing & have becomed very empowered by it... my guess is that this somehow connected with the fact that you have someone who dearly loves you & vice versa... speaking of which i was very touched by your recent post about how much john loves you & you love him... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:32:37 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc - --- colin wrote: > maybe in the dark he thinks you are all gay men? LOL probably, in the dark he *wishes* the dykes were all gay men. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:39:01 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc Lori Fye wrote: > Kinda like when you're in a lesbian nightclub and the DJ starts > playing "It's Raining Men"? > > Well okay, it's not really the same thing, but I never understood that > either -- I don't care if it's got a great dance beat! Why would a > bunch of dykes want to be rained on by men???? ; ) And why do straight people love to boogie down to 'YMCA'? I've seen tv footage of people at football games getting up to make the letters. It boggles my mind every time! Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:40:20 -0800 (PST) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: re: correction njc - swastika symbols >The swastika symbol is also an ancient North American Indian symbol. I forget what it means. < i belive it is a symbol for the flow of life force into the body- something many other cultures are aware of ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:49:16 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: the Cause, NJC Hi Sherelle! I LOVE your post! Thanks for sharing you thoughts! You are my kind of person!!! I'm keeping the whole post in below incase somebody didn't get to read it. One black woman friend who is now a lawyer is so incredible in her outlook and ability to get over the hurt of the past. She goes as far as to say "thank God for slavery" because she is where she is now. I guess I could say the thank God for Communism and the oppression my ancestors experienced in Poland which lead to them immigrating to America, to where I am now. I hear other recovering alcoholics thank God for their alcoholism... I admit, I'm not there yet. You are awesome Sherelle! One of my best friends who recently died of cancer was in an interracial marriage and has the most beautiful children... one in NY, one in CT, and one working on a medical doctorate in WI. My son likes a little girl in his class who is a shade darker in skin color from him, a very beautiful girl from a beautiful interracial family. Prejudice seems to show it's face the same way regardless of what it lashes out at. And, it seems a rebound prejudice is only human nature too. The awesome part is that the ignorance can end and is ending as generations pass. I love your wisdom Sherrelle. Thanks for a very uplifting post. Love, Laura PS. I spent the morning with a friend who lives on the street and is not only a different race from me but also a different sex. When we left the place together where we connected, there were other friends of mine (black and white) standing outside the building. As we drove by them, they didn't wave to me like they usually do but only glanced at me and my friend quickly with looks of disapproval on their faces. I waved... One of my sons told me later that they had asked my friend to leave the building. I love them and my street friend. I don't pretend to understand any of them, but I sure do love them all. My friend and I were on our way to the Social Security department. He put me incharge of his money today because he keeps getting robbed on the street. I was so surprised and honored that he picked me to be his overseer. There's no way I can find him out there on the streets usually. He doesn't have my phone number and doesn't want it. He simply said to me when we parted, "I'll see you at church." check out: buildthedream.org Sherelle's awesome post: Hi Lori and all, I'm really enjoying the exchange of thoughts and ideas on this subject. I can't tell you how refreshing it is to bring these ideas out into the open. I was just sitting here reading all of the posts thinking about my own feelings as an African American person. Hmmm.... I had the chance to not only go to, but to sing in a redneck wedding last summer. It was my husband's niece's wedding. She and her father even arrived at the wedding on a shiny red tractor. Yes, my brother in law is a redneck to the bone and the core. He hunts deer, drives in the derby, and there is always an assortment of unassembled cars in his yard. But he would give his life for you if you needed him to. When I was at the reception (in the firehouse) I knew everyone present knew that this wedding was as redneck as it gets, but they were proud. I normally would not be caught dead there because of the township's reputation but for love, I made the trip. I noticed something...people were proud of their way of life, not so much their prejudices. It was about their way of life. It was about respect. You know how a group of people separate themselves from the rest of the world and assume their own identity? That's what I felt was going on there. It didn't feel like the label "redneck" was about their feelings towards other races. I only got a glimpse, but that's what it felt like I saw. Here in Southern Maryland a truck drove past me bearing a bumper sticker with the image of a confederate flag and the words, "Heritiage not Hate". Another vehicle passed me bearing the image of a confederate flag and a saying that went something like, "confedreate and proud of it". That sticker made me sick to my stomach. The other one gave me reason to hope for a dialogue. What I learned through a TV documentary is that in the past, monthly and quaterly magazines and journals were constantly published with writings from distinguished authors with credentials in the sciences saying that people of my race and any other race weren't even human but animals. There was much ignorance and mass education of prejudice and racism. If your weren't white, then you were an animal. In my heart, ignorance is the real enemy. Last week, I had to leave my lunch area early because an African American intern was spouting off his dislike for interracial couples. There were a few in there who knew I was in an interracial marriage. Rob and I have never tried to change anyone else's minds on the issue; we simply stay away from those who have a problem with us. I was going to go back to work early anyway but I sped it up a little. That person was informed after I left that my husband was white. He came to my desk later very apologetic because I have always been very kind to him. He explained that his brother was in an interracial relationship which turned ugly and the girlfriend ended up saying some very racially charged things to the brother. It turns out the intern's prejudice was motivated by hurt and pain that he as well as his brother has suffered. He apologized, I accepted and life goes on. I know there was more to the Civil War than just the issue of slavery. It's just very personal to me because my ancestors were directly affected by being owned as slaves. I also know that home is where the heart is and many Southerners love the South because it is their home plain and simple. Sometimes, it doesn't have to be anything more than that. I love the music of Lynard Skynard even though I have heard in the past "Sweet Home Alabama" promotes a stand for racism. I chose to believe that they just loved their home, that's all. Though I see the confederate flag pasted as a backdrop on concert footage, I choose to try to only see their music. It's hard though. "Freebird" is a classic as well as their song (butchering the name) "Can You Smell That Smell". I think his name was Ronnie Van Zant had a premonition that he would die at an early age and that song is an eerie prediction of his death along with "Freebird". I also think they had the best back up singers in the business at the time. They rocked. I guess I will leave it at that. There is so much more to people than just their prides and prejudices. I am an optimist and believe that there is always room for change. Here's hoping.... Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:55:16 -0800 (PST) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc >The other day, the local FM "classic rock" station was playing CSN&Y "Ohio". I had to explain to the office what it was about. They were happily singing along with the radio without a clue.< i had a similar experience... neil young came to help his old friend david crosby do an annual benefit for the local schools (where david lives)... it was a unique concert in that neil played solo... it was very cool seeing him with just a guitar & voice... he ended his set with 'ohio' & david joined him on vocals... having been a vietnam protester & living not far from kent state in the months preceeding the massacre that song has always stopped me cold... a bunch of people were gleefully singing along with neil in a kind of happy party mode... it was so strange, like they weren't even relating to the lyrics at all ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:40:25 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Happy Valentine's - njc >You all are, of course, my favorite Valentines. And for those of you who 3love2 song lists, and you know who you are, go to http://www.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=2128< just read this, very interesting list! I'd forgotten all about that Camelot song (if ever I should leave you)- I agree a great mature love song... ps someone is doing a play about john lennon!? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:07:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Southern Man was: re: Anybody Watch the Grammy Awards -njc --- Mark or Travis wrote: > And why do straight people love to boogie down to > 'YMCA'? I've seen tv footage of people at > football games getting up to make the letters. It > boggles my mind every time! > They sing it in daycare too. Must be some kind of plot. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:08:34 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: D-to-A converter, njc Have any of the musicians out there bought any add-ons for home studios from a company in Rochester, New York called "ART", for Applied Research and Technology? I bought a small box that converts "bits" into music. I found an online community of electronics buffs who have figured out how to replace a handful of parts in it and elevate its performance even further. I had it decoding the Shadows and Light DVD all last night, then all day today, to break it in. Right now it's making the best sound I've ever had from CDs on "Sketches Of Spain". $199 list / $120 new including shipping from an dealer I found on Audiogon. As good as it is now, it will be even better after a full week of continuous use and a few modifications. heh heh All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:18:39 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Sweet Home Alabama, oh sweet home, njc My memory is shot but... I saw a 20 minute music-documentary about Skynard several times in a movie theatre "back in the day". I *think* they were saying they had opened for Neil Young, liked him, partied with him, and in an inspired moment, wrote a mini-rant into a song. Who among us hasn't insulted an employer and friend in a copywritten document? Lama ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:47:25 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: RE: Anybody watch the Grammy Awards - njc Right about Plant! She wouldn't be a Janis clone, but I've always wanted to hear Tina Turner cover some of Janis' songs like Try, Little Girl Blue and Work Me Lord. She's always had that similar mix of kick ass feistiness and raw pain. I guess she's a little too relaxed now, but back in the day, it could have been great to hear her interpretations of some of the same songs. David NP Lucinda Williams, Lake Charles >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: mia ortlieb [mailto:hvnphun16@hotmail.com] >>>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:56 AM >>>To: jdhenderson@nyc.rr.com; joni@smoe.org >>>Subject: re: Anybody watch the Grammy Awards - njc >>> >>> >>>>>I always wanted Zeppelin to cover The Banquet because that >>>song craves a >>>wailing hot treatment. >> >>> >>>Yes, this would be wonderful! I can totally see/hear Zeppelin >>>rockin' out >>>to this song in my mind. >>> >>>And with all this talk of a Janis Joplin reality show, isn't >>>Robert Plant >>>already the number one Janis Joplin copy? >>> >>>Mia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:48:51 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: RE: Anybody watch the Grammy Awards? Wow. I wish I could hear that version The Banquet. I suppose there are no recordings of it, right? >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Michael Paz [mailto:michael@thepazgroup.com] >>>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:37 PM >>>To: David Henderson; Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu; Joni Digest >>>Subject: Re: Anybody watch the Grammy Awards? >>> >>> >>>> I wondered if anyone else thought this was an outrageous slight. Led >>>> Zeppelin is one of the most influential bands in the history >>>of rock, and >>>> they were given the fleeting recognition of a one-hit wonder >>>on the Grammys. >>>I agree about Zep. Banquet would have been a great Zep tune. I >>>love the live >>>versions from the WTRF tour with Mike Landau on guitar. Zep >>>would have taken >>>it up a notch or two fro there. >>> >>>Best >>> >>>Paz >>> >>>> What were they thinking? I think that anyone living in the >>>70's - even if >>>> they were not Zep fans - would recognize them as one of the >>>majors. And is >>>> there any rock fan that doesn't like something by Led Zeppelin >>>. . . Houses >>>> of the Holy . . . Stairway to Heaven . . . Dyer Maker (sp?) . . . >>>> >>>> I always wanted Zeppelin to cover The Banquet because that >>>song craves a >>>> wailing hot treatment. Or Smashing Pumpkins. Think about it. >>>> >>>> And yet, the Grammy folk did allow us at least three full >>>minutes to listen >>>> to JLo sing a number way out of her more-than-ever-limited reach. Go >>>> figure. >>>> >>>> And while I'm ranting, I think some young people like Kanye >>>West need to >>>> learn the difference between a respectful salute to the ones who first >>>> traveled your road (Mavis Staples, the blind Alabama guys) and >>>a gratuitous >>>> stab at political correctness. >>>> >>>> I think I'll be able to sleep now. ;) >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu [mailto:jlamadoo@fuse.net] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:17 PM >>>>>>> To: joni@smoe.org >>>>>>> Cc: jdhenderson@nyc.rr.com >>>>>>> Subject: Anybody watch the Grammy Awards? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's up with giving Mavis Staples only 20 seconds on the >>>>>>> occasion of her >>>>>>> family's Lifetime Achievement? All they had to do was give >>>the Staple >>>>>>> Singers a 60 second presentation about Pops Staples' >>>contribution to the >>>>>>> Civil Rights Movement. Ya know: "Pops helped to open the >>>door with a >>>>>>> non-violent message." That would have sent a quick message >>>of diversity, >>>>>>> dignity and non-violence to the US in general (and the >>>>>>> gansta-rap segment of >>>>>>> CD buyers in particular). The recording industry would >>>have looked a bit >>>>>>> more sophisticated and smart too, for a change! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They found time to educate us about copyrights (which I >>>>>>> absolutely support >>>>>>> of course) but a platinum-coated, once-in-a-decade, >>>opportunity was lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd rather not hear them mention Tim McGraw every 15 minutes for >>>>>>> 3 hours, ya >>>>>>> know? Is he the only country artist now? How exactly do >>>you buy those >>>>>>> product placements? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And wasn't it weird when they read (from the podium) that Led >>>>>>> Zeppelin were >>>>>>> recognized for their Lifetime Achievement? The surviving >>>players were in >>>>>>> the audience, in LA. They put them on TV for 0.6667 >>>seconds. Then, they >>>>>>> were gone. No acceptance speech? No song from >>>Led-fricken-Zepplin?! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm just saying... >>>>>>> Lama >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought two were phenomenal - Alicia Keyes and Jamie Fox (They >>>>>>> should do an album together)- and that Southern Rock salute >>>with Skynard, >>>>>>> Allman Brothers, Keith Urban, Elvin Bishop, etc. . . . That >>>was f*****g >>>>>>> incredible, especially for a Louisiana boy who grew up in the 70's!! >>>>>>> AMAZING, the whole group!!> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:58:15 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Online radio NJC Hey,Garret, how's life in Ireland today? I've never really listened to it, but several of my friends swear by Live365.com - a lot of different stations, many free, for some you need a membership. David NP Lucinda, Still long for your kiss >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:03:51 +0000 >From: Garret >Subject: Internet radio njc >Any good radio stations that can be listened to online? >GARRET >NP- Patti Smith, Free Money (live 11 aug 2003) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #80 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)