From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #71 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, February 14 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 071 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC [Deb Messling ] Re: charlene -- NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: TONIGHT: Grammy Awards, NJC this year I suppose [Vince Lavieri ] Afternoon Delight-- NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: My Top 50 - NJC, thank goodness [Smurf ] Grammy Awards: njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Finally! My Top 50/Robert F. Kennedy -- NJC -- NJC [Smurf ] Re: My Top 50/"Fancy" - NJC [Smurf ] re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC ["mia ortlieb" ] RE: Afternoon Delight-- NJC ["hell" ] Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Finally! My Top 50/Robert F. Kennedy -- NJC -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] One last thing, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:55:36 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC ROTFL! I bet you would enjoy the book "Dave Barry's Book of Bad Songs." I think most of these titles are mentioned. It's hysterical. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:02:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: charlene -- NJC Wally Kairuz wrote: No, Wally - you're thinking of the follow-up "I've Never Diddled The Right Part Of Me"....(I don't think it made much of a dent in the charts) The original was probably ghost-written by Phyliss Schafly or something and was attempting to make the simple point that having a good husband and family is all you need to feel like you have "paradise" in your life, and all the things that were supposed to make you feel fulfilled (material stuff and fantasies on islands and so on) were not really going to do the job. You know, the same themes Joni explored on "Shiny Toys" & "The Reoccuring Dream". Bob NP: Patti Witten, "Carry Me There" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:02:59 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: TONIGHT: Grammy Awards, NJC this year I suppose neither I'd go with Joss Stone Vince Muskegon: my once and new home: Catch the Wave with a new Muskegon web site http://www.co.muskegon.mi.us On Feb 13, 2005, at 6:37 PM, Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Yo, www.grammy.com > says this year's Grammy Awards will be broadcast on CBS at 8:30 PM EST > (that's GMT -5). It will be delayed, NOT live, on the west coast. > 8:30PM PT. > > How'd you like to decide between these two nominees for Best Pop Vocal > Album? > > Ray Charles for "GENIUS LOVES COMPANY" > or > Brian Wilson for "SMILE" > > Lama > 90 minutes and counting... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:16:06 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC On Feb 13, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Smurf wrote: > > > My Top 50 of All Time: > > > > "Dead Skunk" - Loudon Wainwright > > Dead Skunk is now on its third generation in delighting my family!!!! I don't know what other folks use to generate family singing but I just dropped off my two grandsons who can never get enough of laughing to and singing Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road and from that it is a real easy segue into other stuff. Just like their father and uncle before them and like their grandfather and his sister when the song was new. "Poppa can we sing Dead Skunk again..." Until I get Robert Wise directing a hokey fabrication of my life with book and music by Rogers and Hammerstein, my family's singing usually begins with Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road stinkin' to high heaven... the eternally low class Vince PS When our family singing does not begin with Dead Skunk, I dare not tell you what the other family singing music is that gets everyone involved cougheminemcough but guess who's back, back again, Shady's back, tell a friend... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:30:51 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Afternoon Delight-- NJC Bill and Taffy Danoff, who wrote "Afternoon Delight" used to have audiences in stitches with the song--the irony was obvious, especially when they used to tell the story of how it was inspired by an item on the menu at Clyde's in Georgetown. But once they joined Jon Carroll and Margot whatsherface and made Starland Vocal Band, it seemed they lost their sense of irony. Or just repeated radio play made it (deservedly) infamous-- I mean enough's enough. But it _was_ originally conceived as a novelty item (no--not that kind!) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Em Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:51 PM To: FMYFL@aol.com; smurfadelica@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC - --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > > I know you're a LOT older than me Bobi, but those songs meant a lot > to me > when I was a child. The rest of your list is really funny, but don't > mess with > the Starland Vocal Band :) LOL! I have to confess a certain love for "Afternoon Delight" too. Its a warm fuzzy squeaky-clean pre-AIDS porn flick in your radio. Straight from the "Boogie Nights" era! Back then when this song was on, I was off work on Mondays with the then object of my affection...so I think back fondly on full daylight, hiding-from-the-rest-of-the-world, afternoon delights. Silly little song, but just no malice in it, ya know? I kinda even like the acoustic guitar sound in it. Its like eating butter mixed with sugar! :P Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:06:06 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: My Top 50 - NJC, thank goodness Susan said: > "Having My Baby" - which I know hits close to home with you and I. My GAWD, Susan. I thought of you as I wrote that and wondered if you'd ever post again. I am so happy my list dragged you out of Lurkdom, Illinois. How come we never had "Little Blue," anyway? The Bobster wrote: > "I've Never Been To Me" - Charlene (worst song ever) > BOB!!! This one was the second-to-last one I omitted from the list when it creeped past 50. What bumped it off the list was its appearance in "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert." It made me sorta like the song, although I always hated it pre-Priscilla. And regarding your love for "Rock the Boat" -- that figures! My big problem with the song is I always heard them singing "hockey puck" rather than "rock the boat." Richard asks: > Shouldn't "Dancin' Clown" be on that list somewhere? No. Joni's actual poop couldn't make this list. Wally shrieks: > never been to me is the only reason i might one day support capital punishment. what's with this song? why does it irritate me even after not hearing it in so many years? Because your cousine the famous French nun didn't record it? Em asks about INBTM: > was that song in "Priscilla Queen of the Desert"? Yes. See above. Jimmy confesses about "Watching Scotty Grow": > This song is special, only because it's the name of Ed's penis :) Thanks for the earth-shattering news the entire world already knows, Jimmy. Jimmy also adds: > I cringed at the rest of your list. How long did that take to make up? Three months. About INBTM, dear Helen tells us: > used to great effect in the closing credits of "Priscilla - Queen of the Desert"... Really? I'll have to check it out! Colin confesses to liking: "I Will Always Love You" - Whitney Houston "My Heart Will Go On" - Celine Dion "Guilty" - Barbra Streisand/Barry Gibb "Macarena" - Los Del Ri "Seasons in the Sun" - Terry Jacks Bobby Goldsboro "Honey" "Physical" - Olivia Newton John "Harper Valley P.T.A." >> Synchro again! I like "Anticipation!" Mark E. says this brings out the trashy wench in him: > "Harper Valley P.T.A." - Jeannie C Riley I know how protective we can be of our inner trashy wenches and their musical tastes, Mark. My favorite trashy wench song, however, is "Fancy" by Bobbie Gentry. You gotta love a song about a mother preparing her daughter to turn tricks. They just don't write 'em like that anymore. Wally asks: > i wonder about the true meaning of charlene's song. is it about a > frustrated attempts at masturbation? No, Wally. That would be "I've Never Been to Mini Me." Deb suggests: > ROTFL! I bet you would enjoy the book "Dave Barry's Book of Bad > Songs." I think most of these titles are mentioned. It's hysterical. Maybe not. I hate funny writers. Vince says: > Dead Skunk is now on its third generation in delighting my family!!!! That's nice. My family has always loved lies and deceit!!! XO, - --Smurf, who understands now why magazines do best- and worst-of lists every time they want to bump circulation rates ... NPIMH: "Ethiopia" by Bob Muller __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:14:36 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Grammy Awards: njc To those in Central Time, Mountain Time, and Pacific Time: Don't miss the opener. I'm still scratching my head over it but... Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:16:27 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50/Robert F. Kennedy -- NJC -- NJC Randy rote: > what's up with: "Wild Thing" - Robert F. Kennedy > JFK's little brother was a secret rocker? Shortly before his murder, perhaps even at the time of his murder, there was a hit novelty song of an RFK imitator doing "Wild Thing." I am not sure if it was a regional thing or not. I lived in Massachusetts at the time and it was certainly a hit here. RFK was a senator from NY then, so maybe it was a hit there, too. Anyone know? - --Smurf NP: The "B" side of Covers 61 CD __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:35:24 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: My Top 50 - NJC, thank goodness Smurf wrote: > > I know how protective we can be of our inner trashy > wenches and their musical tastes, Mark. My favorite > trashy wench song, however, is "Fancy" by Bobbie > Gentry. You gotta love a song about a mother preparing > her daughter to turn tricks. They just don't write 'em > like that anymore. I don't remember the original by Bobbie Gentry but I do remember Reba McEntire's remake of 'Fancy' which I did rather fancy, actually. Ellie Mae in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:35:58 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Grammy Awards: njc everyone was in it! kind of a rock/rap melange! it didn't always make sense but it was cool and when was Fiddler on the roof last sung at the Grammys" On Feb 13, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > To those in Central Time, Mountain Time, and Pacific Time: > > Don't miss the opener. I'm still scratching my head over it but... > > Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: My Top 50/"Fancy" - NJC > Ellie Mae in Seattle drawls: > I don't remember the original by Bobbie Gentry but I > do remember Reba McEntire's remake of 'Fancy' > which I did rather fancy, actually. > Here are the lyrics. Enjoy. XO, - -- Bobi Joe FANCY "Well, I remember it all very well lookin' back It was the summer that I turned eighteen. We lived in a one-room, run down shack on the outskirts of New Orleans. (Hi, Michael!) We didn't have money for food or rent to say the least we was hard-pressed when Momma spent every last penny we had to buy me a dancin' dress. Well, Momma washed and combed and curled my hair, then she painted my eyes and lips. Then I stepped into the satin dancin' dress. It had a split in the side clean up to my hips. It was red, velvet-trimmed, and it fit me good and standin' back from the lookin' glass was a woman where a half grown kid had stood. She said, "Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down! Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down. God forgive me for what I do, but if you want out, girl, it's up to you. Now get on out, you better start sleepin' uptown." Momma dabbed a little bit of perfume on my neck and she kissed my cheek Then I saw the tears welling up in her troubled eyes as she started to speak She looked at our pitiful shack and then she looked at me and took a ragged breath She said, Your Pa's runned off, and I'm real sick and the baby's gonna starve to death. She handed me a heart-shaped locket that said "To thine own self be true" and I shivered as I watched a roach crawl across the toe of my high-healed shoe It sounded like somebody else was talkin' askin', "Momma what do I do?" She said, "Just be nice to the gentlemen, Fancy. They'll be nice to you." She said, "Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down! Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down. God forgive me for what I do, But if you want out girl it's up to you Now don't let me down, now get on out, you better start sleepin' uptown." That was the last time I saw my momma when I left that rickety shack The welfare people came and took the baby. Momma died and I ain't been back. But the wheels of fate had started to turn and for me there was no other way out. It wasn't very long after that I knew exactly what my momma was talkin' 'bout. I knew what I had to do. Then I made myself this solemn vow: I's gonna to be a lady someday though I didn't know when or how. But I couldn't see spendin' the rest of my life with my head hung down in shame. You know I mighta been born just plain white trash. but Fancy was my name. She said, "Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down! Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down. God forgive me for what I do, but if you want out girl it's up to you. Now get on out, you better start sleepin' uptown." Wasn't long after that a benevolent man took me in off the streets One week later I was pourin' his tea in a five roomed penthouse suite. Since then I've charmed a king, a congressman and an occasional aristocrat and I got me an elegant Georgia mansion and a New York townhouse flat. Now I ain't done bad Now in this world there's a lot of self-righteous hypocrites who call me bad. They criticize Momma for turning me out No matter how little we had. But I haven't had to worry 'bout nothin' now for nigh on fifteen years But I can still hear the desperation in my poor mommas voice ringin' in my ears. "Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down! Oh, here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down. God forgive me for what I do, but if you want out girl it's up to you. Now get on out, you better start sleepin' uptown." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:46:24 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC <<"Muskrat Love" - Captain & Tenille>> Now, now, Smurphy - I used to really like this one when I was a kid. In fact I sort of still do. The whirlin',twirlin', and tango-ing of little Sammy and Susie used to conjure up some nice romantic images in my little head. I know, I'm a nerd. What can I say. I even put "Bus Rider" on my top 50, LOL! Mia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:34:26 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: RE: Afternoon Delight-- NJC Richard wrote: > Bill and Taffy Danoff, who wrote "Afternoon Delight" used to have > audiences > in stitches with the song--the irony was obvious, especially when > they used > to tell the story of how it was inspired by an item on the menu at Clyde's > in Georgetown. But once they joined Jon Carroll and Margot > whatsherface and > made Starland Vocal Band, it seemed they lost their sense of > irony. Or just > repeated radio play made it (deservedly) infamous-- I mean > enough's enough. I don't know, they included the John Denver song "Baby, You Look Good To Me Tonight" on their first album (the only one I have). It sounds to me like there's a large amount of sarcasm/"tongue-in-cheek" on the line, "I thought I must be in a dream, when she asked me if I wanted cream....." There are some great songs on the album though, and some amazing harmonies, particularly on "Ain't It The Fall", and an a cappella version of Paul Simon's "American Tune" in four-part harmony. Hell _________________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too" - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:40:36 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC --- Smurf wrote: > Brilliant idea for a thread, Muller ;-) but man, oh > man! I thought I'd never get this right. Couldn't > think of just one top Joni song, so it's NJC. > > My Top 50 of All Time: > OMG! You would NOT believe how hard I'm laughing right now - so hard I'm cryin'! Thanks for the cheesy memories - there are enough nasty earworms in there to last a lifetime. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:12:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC --- Em wrote: > --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > > > > I know you're a LOT older than me Bobi, but > those songs meant a lot > > to me > > when I was a child. The rest of your list is > really funny, but don't > > mess with > > the Starland Vocal Band :) > > LOL! I have to confess a certain love for "Afternoon > Delight" too. > Its a warm fuzzy squeaky-clean pre-AIDS porn flick > in your radio. > Straight from the "Boogie Nights" era! > Back then when this song was on, I was off work on > Mondays with the > then object of my affection...so I think back fondly > on full daylight, > hiding-from-the-rest-of-the-world, afternoon > delights. > Silly little song, but just no malice in it, ya > know? > I kinda even like the acoustic guitar sound in it. > Its like eating butter mixed with sugar! > :P > Em Iwww! I absolutely HATE that feckin' song! It is SO smarmy it makes me want to hurl! (A little too much butter and sugar, maybe? GAG!!!) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:15:26 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50 -- NJC --- Vince Lavieri wrote: > > "Dead Skunk" - Loudon Wainwright > > > Dead Skunk is now on its third generation in > delighting my family!!!! > > Until I get Robert Wise directing a hokey > fabrication of my life with > book and music by Rogers and Hammerstein, my > family's singing usually > begins with Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road > stinkin' to high > heaven... > > the eternally low class Vince > LOL! I gotta admit, I love that stinkin' song too, Vince, so I'm right down there in the gutter with you. I used to sing it to my kids too. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:30:16 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Finally! My Top 50/Robert F. Kennedy -- NJC -- NJC --- Smurf wrote: > Randy rote: > > > what's up with: "Wild Thing" - Robert F. Kennedy > > JFK's little brother was a secret rocker? > > Shortly before his murder, perhaps even at the time > of > his murder, there was a hit novelty song of an RFK > imitator doing "Wild Thing." I am not sure if it was > a > regional thing or not. I lived in Massachusetts at > the > time and it was certainly a hit here. RFK was a > senator from NY then, so maybe it was a hit there, > too. Anyone know? > > --Smurf > I remember this! And good old google came through again: http://www.songfacts.com/detail.lasso?id=1791 "In 1967, this [song "Wild thing"] was revived as a parody recording by a comedy troupe called The Hardly Worthit Players. Their version ht #20 in the US, and was recorded under the name Senator Bobby. It was a send-up of the popular Senator from New York (and younger brother of President John), Robert F. Kennedy, and loaded with in-jokes about Democratic party politics and RFK's family. The interplay between "Senator Bobby" and the producer is outlandish. The B-side was a send-up of the popular Senator from Illinois, Everett Dirkson, loaded with in-jokes about Republican party politics. The interplay between the "senator" and the producer on the "response" to "Senator Kennedy's hit record" is equally funny. The voice of Senator Bobby was James Voight, brother of actor Jon Voight. Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1968 while running for President. Everett Dirkson died in 1969. The parody version by The Hardly Worthit Players was one of the last hits for the Cameo/Parkway empire before it went belly-up in early 1969. A former Beatles and Rolling Stones manager bought the original tapes of all product by the company, then changed its name to ABKCO. He still owns the rights and refuses to issue any of them on CD." (Beware of ABKCO). ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:43:06 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: One last thing, njc Random thoughts at the end of a weekend of posting too much. Nominees for Murphy's next list: "Leader Of the Pack" "Frankenstein" by the Edgar Winter's Group "Hocus Pocus" by Focus Most graceful touch at the Grammys: a winner's name printed in Braille. That simple gesture allowed the winner's envelope to be opened, read, and announced by... Stevie Wonder. Ray Charles might have been proud of the Grammies tonight. Lama PS, Except for "The West Wing", I never watch TV. While checking out the Grammies, I saw enough TV commercials with closeups of grisly, decomposing bodies and leering, smirking investigators of sex crimes to last me a full year. Blech. No thanks. now playing in my head: 57 channels and nothing on. 57 channels and nothing on. 57 channels and nothing on... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #71 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)