From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #54 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, February 5 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 054 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Hmmm, this item looks familiar [Bob Muller ] NJC Speaking of Dylan [Bob Muller ] Re: Roberta Flack (now NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: NJC Speaking of Dylan ["Richard Flynn" ] Everything (or at least a frisbee) for nothing [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] RE: Hmmm, this item looks familiar ["Richard Flynn" ] Fwd: Re: Everything (or at least a frisbee) for nothing [Bob Muller ] Jen Stills, was Robera Flack, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Dylan (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] RE: NJC Speaking of Dylan [Catherine McKay ] Re: Time for a Freebie Frisbee! [Smurf ] Re: NJC Speaking of Dylan [Randy Remote ] Hejira a blight! ["David Henderson" ] The blight, the dance and all that [eaddy sutton ] Shorter ["David Henderson" ] A step back in time... [Doug ] Spock singing about Bilbo -- njc [Smurf ] Re: The blight, the dance and all that [Catherine McKay ] Re: (NJC) Is There an Archive in the House? [Lori Fye ] (NJC) Fraudulent emails from "eBay" [Lori Fye ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:03:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Hmmm, this item looks familiar The 2004 Jonifest DVD Giveaway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4072950166&fromMakeTrack=true Bob NP: Neil, "After The Gold Rush" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:09:11 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Speaking of Dylan I read today that Martin Scorcese will be directing the Bob Dylan edition of "American Masters" (they had profiled Joni previously). According to the article, it'll be 4 hours, in 2 parts, and will only cover 1961-1965! Bob NP: Jeff Buckley, "Lover, You Should Have Come Over" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:11:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Roberta Flack (now NJC) I meant to say "No African-American solo artist". the reason I say that because "Soul" in my opinion was always very good, but it had its own groove. There were variations of theme, but you kind of knew the style when you heard it and were able to easily identify it. Then this woman comes on the scene proudly wearing an Afro but singing something I'd never heard on the soul stations before. It was quite different...and mind-blowing. It felt like a paradox if I am using the correct term. I remember thinking how real Roberta Flack was...how musically real. I'll never forget it.... Sherelle I wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:26:23 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: NJC Speaking of Dylan Ashara and Catherine. I'll be taping this for you! ;-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:09 PM To: JMDL Subject: NJC Speaking of Dylan I read today that Martin Scorcese will be directing the Bob Dylan edition of "American Masters" (they had profiled Joni previously). According to the article, it'll be 4 hours, in 2 parts, and will only cover 1961-1965! Bob NP: Jeff Buckley, "Lover, You Should Have Come Over" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:44:04 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Everything (or at least a frisbee) for nothing In a message dated 2/4/05 2:03:11 PM, SCJoniBob asked > Q: What TV game show does Joni mention in one of her songs? > Hey Bob, From The Windfall: In the land of lkitigation The courts are like gameshows Take what's behind the curtain The jury cries... That seems to imply to me the game of Let's Make a Deal, although The Price Is Right is certainly in the same ballpark. Do i get a frisbee, or am i too late, Oh Great Cubrador? best, walt (let me know if I did win something -- i have a new mailing address) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:01:28 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Hmmm, this item looks familiar I just reported this to Ebay as a bootleg recording, which they do not allow. The operative word is "Giveaway" - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:04 PM To: JMDL Subject: Hmmm, this item looks familiar The 2004 Jonifest DVD Giveaway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4072950166&fromMakeTrack= true Bob NP: Neil, "After The Gold Rush" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:06:55 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC Speaking of Dylan Bob Muller wrote: > I read today that Martin Scorcese will be directing the Bob Dylan > edition of "American Masters" (they had profiled Joni previously). > According to the article, it'll be 4 hours, in 2 parts, and will only > cover 1961-1965! > Sounds like uber-male egos in overdrive overworking to overproduce overkill to me. Mark E. in Seattle (glad now that that's over!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:26:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Fwd: Re: Everything (or at least a frisbee) for nothing Note: forwarded message attached. The all-new My Yahoo!  What will yours do? Received: from [68.189.171.195] by web61202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:24:22 PST Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Everything (or at least a frisbee) for nothing To: Justalittlebreen@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 704 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Justalittlebreen@aol.com wrote: Subject: Fwd: on getting Dylan.... very little JC Bah, resending because I meant this for the list too. Note: forwarded message attached. Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Received: from [24.77.17.37] by web53703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:04:15 PST Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:04:15 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: on getting Dylan.... very little JC To: notaro@stpt.usf.edu, Ashara , Catherine McKay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1055 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Doing the clip art thing, here since I'm on digest / consequently missed out on Muller's freebie ..boohooo... oh well...alas I digresss....... sweet southern belle Jerry wrote: You really need to see Dylan live in order to "get" him. As we have previously discussed about Baez, it's just a whole nuther thang. > Catherine wrote: > > < it, because it's a waste of breath.>> > > > :-D > > Hugs, > Ashara, no further words necessary. (hee hee) and then my girlzz Cat and Ashes wrote the above....to which I feel compelled to add: hey Jerry............ back in 98, remember... Joni toured Canada with Dylan...WITH Dylan??? Well...um... I was there at the Maple Leaf Gardens to see Joni herself...and I DID see Dylan...and um errr..well.. ..yea, like Ashara said. ;-) okay I will add this....one of the years we were at the Full Moon Joni Fest....Roger behind the desk, had a CD on that was gorgeous, acoustic, mellow, sweet and the shock of shocks was that it WAS Dylan! Anyone know what CD that could be?? Mags. Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:29:24 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Jen Stills, was Robera Flack, njc Sample lyric in my head: "the first time ever I saw my favorite changes." I guess nobody remembers "Illegal Stills", huh? Lama From kate@katebennett said, >Fun when we get going on some of these musical tangents... a couple of years ago I booked jen stills (steve's daughter) for some of the gigs I was doing alongside promoting some of my fav up & coming artists- she is hugely influenced by robert flack...> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:39:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Time for a Freebie Frisbee! --- Bob Muller wrote: > Sorry Catherine...after a review of the play, the > lead referee has stated that the "Johnny Carson > Show" does not qualify as a GAME show. TO TELL THE > TRUTH, this response has placed you in JEOPARDY for > lack of CONCENTRATION. > aaaaa, what the hey. I didn't even notice the word "game". GOOONNNGGGG!!! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:44:12 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Dylan (NJC) --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > You really need to see Dylan live in order to "get" > him. Too late for that! Hee-hee-hee-hee-hee! <> > Jerry > > > Catherine wrote: > > > > < bother trying to talk me into > > it, because it's a waste of breath.>> > > > > > > :-D > > > > Hugs, > > Ashara, no further words necessary. (hee hee) I wonder if I was just a little drunk when I wrote those words? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:52:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: NJC Speaking of Dylan Well, you better, eh? --- Richard Flynn wrote: > Ashara and Catherine. I'll be taping this for you! > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com > [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob > Muller > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:09 PM > To: JMDL > Subject: NJC Speaking of Dylan > > I read today that Martin Scorcese will be directing > the Bob Dylan edition of > "American Masters" (they had profiled Joni > previously). According to the > article, it'll be 4 hours, in 2 parts, and will only > cover 1961-1965! > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:14:39 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Time for a Freebie Frisbee! Muller wrote: > > Sorry Catherine...after a review of the play, the > > lead referee has stated that the "Johnny Carson > > Show" does not qualify as a GAME show. TO TELL THE > > TRUTH, this response has placed you in JEOPARDY >> for lack of CONCENTRATION. > > I've got you covered, Catherine. I won one of these sparkly flyers today, and once I get my copy from Muller I'll be offering copies for sale on eBay. You're invited to stop by and bid big! XO, - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:13:22 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC Speaking of Dylan Any idea when? Bob Muller wrote: > I read today that Martin Scorcese will be directing the Bob Dylan edition of "American Masters" (they had profiled Joni previously). According to the article, it'll be 4 hours, in 2 parts, and will only cover 1961-1965! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:01:15 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Hejira a blight! LES SAID: >It's usually a sign that someone's argument is faltering when they take >recourse in dictionary definitions. In the one I have in front of me here >for 'blight' there are a number of references to plant decay though, >significantly, without rotting taking place. But other definitions refer to >the prevention of growth and also to frustrate or disappoint. Perhaps the >latter is closer to what is being proposed. But I don't support that either. You are so right, my man. I cannot believe all of this talk about Hejira being a blight! Do any of you know what the word BLASPHEMY means? My dictionary says (1) A comtemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning Joni Mitchell or another sacred entity. (2) The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of Joni Mitchell. And (3) an irreverent or impious act, attitude or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct like Joni Mitchell. I hope you feel ashamed, and you know who you are. ;)) David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:13:07 -0500 From: eaddy sutton Subject: The blight, the dance and all that This is good, very good . . . all of the thoughtful responses are working on me, the originator of the 'Hejira a blight" appeal for enlightenment. Like a spot on an apple, I've always avoided this song - -- my depression came not from its lyrics, but from its monotonous presence on a prefect jewel. It saddened me that I had such antipathy for the song -- specifically the music. Jaco overload. The album is pure love for me, but for this. bum da da da, bum da da da, bling, bum da da da. . . . The comment about the white lines and the poles pulsing past -- this helps. General statements about the awesomeness of it all do not really key me in. Love the quote about coming and going unknown, and the suggestion to read -- aloud is best-- as pure poetry. I am getting there, I am loosening up a bit. Please extend the helping hand again-- forceps and the stone? All I can think of is kidney stone surgery, so I must be missing something pretty obvious. Lets see -- difficult labor extraction forceps and the tombstone? This would be an unfortunate image indeed. But please, keep spinning out the poetry, if you will -- heck, do a line by line and really suss it out. Is this song the essence or the blight? Yo, SMURF, hi-five on the goat dance! I just knew it -- Sure they rutted, but that rouge did dance. The good news is that the photo could indicate a resemblance to the version we currently enjoying doing here around the house, minus the bells and skins. Mirth and merriment, everyone should try kicking out the Goat Dance. Now again, any idea where Joni actually took her "Refuge" on the west coast of Fla? In the northern part of the state, there is a small town that spells Hejiria with a G, I think. I've combed through the song for clues, but she coulda been anywhere from Tarpon Springs to Naples. This is fun! Eaddy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:11:20 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Shorter I'm glad someone agrees with me. I have never understood what Joni likes about Wayne Shorter . . . I think he's a total snooze. I wish she would hook-up with someone a little more expressive. Yeah Bob, Brecker is wicked fantastic on Shadows and Light. David NP Green Day, Boulevard of Broken Dreams ................. Whoa - I'm not going there, but I'll repeat the fact that I'm nutty for Michael Brecker's work on Shadows & Light - I'm in awe every time I hear it. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:51:35 -0500 From: Doug Subject: A step back in time... Spent a few hours at the Ottawa Public Library today, copied this from the newspaper archives. This refers to Joni's appearance at Le Hibou in Ottawa March 1968. Doug From The Ottawa Journal April 5 1968: Singer Shares Her World By Jim Bellshaw She strums the first chord and a wispy strand of blond hair peeks over her shoulder and nestles on her arm. Now, it's head back and the misty voice of Joni Mitchell drifts cleanly into the audience like the fragrance of a newly opened flower in spring sunshine. Then the same voice comes ringing down and gives out all the qualities of soft fertile earth - - a strong warm-coloured sound that catches you in rapture and transports you with this slim girl to her own unique land of song. When she sings "icicle" the word is cold and round in her mouth, and when she sings "sun" it comes shining forth, tender, caressing, and full of joy. Mellow sounds, sad sounds, happy sounds, high an low sounds, they're all part of Joni's world and she shares them with you freely and confidently - that's the way she is. And when you meet her in person, the feeling that you've known her before is stronger, like the sudden happiness of seeing something familiar in a new light. In her dressing room, Joni sits in what looks like a big old chair. When she gets up you see it's a pretty average size chair. She seems smaller here than on stage. "I'm not a folksinger," she says "I'm afraid of the word." When she talks her hands move quickly, moulding, shaping and weaving some invisible material. "I've tried to interpret all the songs and their presentation and state them with one guitar and one voice. I'm a female tributary to that brand of music." Joni stops weaving for a minute and fingers the long chained pendant she wears. "At first my goals were modest. I kept them within easy sight, but I'm glad success didn't come too soon. My financial success will come this year. She's mearly stating a fact. Long blond hair gets her attention now. She chooses a strand and coils it around her finger. "Lots of people in the business are financialy comfortable but artisically unfulfilled, like The Monkees." Her chin lifts slightly. "I'm going to be successful on my own terms," she says. and the way she says it tells you she's thought it out and it's no empty decision. She pours soft drinks and changes tack. "A lot of my songs are character sketches - little slices of life. they should leave you with a feeling and a philosophy. And I'm not a protester. I call myself a poet-singer and my songs are simply human relations." She writes the songs herself; so far 40 of them, and they portray the same honesty and sincerity that makes Joni Mitchell master of her music. Free-flowing songs stamped indelibly with the soul of an artist, and sent winging on the voice of a girl who says "Music is hungry for the individual." She winds another strand of hair onto her finger. "Usually I write my songs late at night - that's my quiet time - between midnight and five in the morning." Joni's late night composing vigil can be heard on her new album "Song To A Seagull" and people like Harry Belafonte, Ian and Sylvia, Buffy Saint Marie, and Judy Collins are also singing her songs. And this singer who likes "to do things for myself in my own way" even created the cover for her own album. "I would like to learn the sitar," she smiles, "but right now I'm re-teaching myself piano. I played piano when I was about six or seven and hated it. Never got gold stars or anything." She shakes her head in mock disapproval and it's time for the next set. Stepping onto the stage she seems bigger again. Her voice reaches out and captues the audience. "I awoke today to find the frost perched on the town, It hovered in a frozen sky then gobbled summer down... I get the urge for goin'.. but I never seem to go." The audience closes its eyes and prays hard she won't. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:28:08 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Spock singing about Bilbo -- njc This is so totally beyond weird I thought you would all like it. It's Leonard Nimoy singing in an early music video (circa late '60s) about Bilbo Baggins. http://www.tolkiencollector.com/bilbo5.mov Beam me up, indeed. - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 23:01:23 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The blight, the dance and all that --- eaddy sutton wrote: > This is good, very good . . . all of the thoughtful > responses are > working on me, the originator of the 'Hejira a > blight" appeal for > enlightenment. Like a spot on an apple, I've always > avoided this song > -- my depression came not from its lyrics, but from > its monotonous > presence on a prefect jewel. It saddened me that I > had such antipathy > for the song -- specifically the music. Jaco > overload. It is monotonous. A lot of the songs on Hejira are. I think of it as meditation music. Trance music. Depending on what kind of musical mood you're in, that's either a major drag or a mind-opening experience. > Please > extend the helping hand > again-- forceps and the stone? All I can think of > is kidney stone > surgery, so I must be missing something pretty > obvious. Lets see -- > difficult labor extraction forceps and the > tombstone? This would be an > unfortunate image indeed. Yep. That's basically it. Between birth and death. (Not a pretty birth. Forceps? Iww. I hope they don't use those anymore.) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 20:25:24 -0800 (PST) From: Mitch F Subject: (NJC) Is There an Archive in the House? Is there a searchable archive on the site or available to listmembers? Mitch __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page  Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 23:40:18 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Is There an Archive in the House? > Is there a searchable archive on the site or available to listmembers? How far back do you want to go, Mitch? There's this: http://www.mail-archive.com/joni@jmdl.com/ but I think it goes back only as far as early April, 2003. You can also visit http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni and open each of the digests and do a text search, but it's very tedious, especially if you don't know the timeframe when something was posted. Anyone (Les?) know of any other method? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 00:27:11 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Fraudulent emails from "eBay" I'm sure you all know not to ever provide your credit card info in response to an email from eBay. eBay would never ask you for it, or to reconfirm it, via email. Just in case, though, I thought I would mention that there are some bogus requests coming from someone posing as "aw-confirm@ebay.com" or similar. I got one the other day (which I ignored), and then another today telling me my eBay account was about to be suspended because of suspicious attempts to log on -- afterall, they're looking out for the safety of my account! Yeah, right. If you click on the link to confirm, this is where it leads: http://www.mano.puslapiai.com/wap/Fonai/96x65/aw-cgi/login.htm?eBayISAPI.dll&VerifyRegistrationShow The page you'll see looks very much like an eBay page, but it's not. If you should get one of these things, report it to spoof@ebay.com (which is a real eBay address). They will appreciate knowing about it. 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