From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #50 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, February 3 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 050 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NO WAY was [RE: Hejira a blight] ["Richard Flynn" Subject: NO WAY was [RE: Hejira a blight] The two truly sublime albums of Joni's career are, in no particular order: Hejira and For the Roses. And there are many more of her albums (CDs LPs, whatever) that I love. The fact that they may be her most depressing albums--more depressing than Blue--and "Richard" is an immortal masterpiece, by the way,--is probably a reflection of my tastes. But artistically speaking, they are those rare "transitional" albums that authorize further artistic growth and experimentation: FTR>Court & Spark; Hejira>DJRD. In fact the entire trajectory from Blue through Mingus is an amazing artistic accomplishment. And she was pretty vital both before and after. I know I'm just asserting here. But the new musical sophistication (all of side 1 of FTR plus much of side 2, esp "Judgment"); the stand-out cuts on Hejira: Amelia, title track, Refuge of the Roads marry directness and simplicity with innovation. How anyone couldn't like them, I don't understand. Of course, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't recognize that Bob Dylan is an immortal genius. Assertively yours, Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of David Henderson Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:04 PM To: Joni Mitchell List Subject: Hejira a blight EADDY WROTE: "Perhaps somewhat could enlighten me and remove this blight (the song 'Hejira). Eaddy, I am so glad you helped me defend 'Richard,' but I completely disagree about 'Hejira.' It's definitely a dark tune, but I can completely relate to those feelings of disillusionment after the loss of a love. For me, 'Hejira represents those moments when you feel completely alone in the world just before you begin to hope again. I guess it's cathartic. I think 'Hejira' is one of her most beautiful and perfect poems; it's so full of fascinating images. These are among my favorite, or possibly my favorite, of Joni's lines: "We all come and go unknown Each so deep and superficial Between the forceps and the stone." What an image. That's the whole of a life in three brief lines. Anyway, my two cents, David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:15:15 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Giving Fred Simon his due, njc Fred, Last year, I lent one of your discs, "Dreamhouse", to our telemarketing manager at work. She's not someone who buys music but she held on to that disc for almost a month. When she returned it, she said she really liked it. Angie quit last week. She's going back to school to become a certified massage therapist. As a going away gift I gave her my "Dreamhouse". When she got it for her own collection, she gushed again. Fred, you've made Angie van Iden, a woman with a new career, very happy. All the best, Jim np: "Makin' Pies" on our singer-songwriter station. Kate, I think of you every time I hear this song. To me, it's *your song and even Patti Griffin's own version falls short. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:37:00 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Hejira, the song Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:04:29 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Hejira a blight EADDY WROTE: "Perhaps somewhat could enlighten me and remove this blight (the song 'Hejira). Eaddy, I am so glad you helped me defend 'Richard,' but I completely disagree about 'Hejira.' It's definitely a dark tune, but I can completely relate to those feelings of disillusionment after the loss of a love. For me, 'Hejira represents those moments when you feel completely alone in the world just before you begin to hope again. I guess it's cathartic. I think 'Hejira' is one of her most beautiful and perfect poems; it's so full of fascinating images. These are among my favorite, or possibly my favorite, of Joni's lines: "We all come and go unknown Each so deep and superficial Between the forceps and the stone." What an image. That's the whole of a life in three brief lines. Anyway, my two cents, David I don't think Hejira (the song) a blight, but it's my least favorite song on my favorite album. Yes, it features some wonderful poetry but it's wordy and whiny (sp.?). Doesn't compare overall to Amelia and Song for Sharon. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 03:19:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, njc mack... you mean wally as in wally k???? on the same list as muller and pierce??????????? wally, jaw just punched a hole in the parquetry > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > mackoliver > Enviado el: Miircoles, 02 de Febrero de 2005 03:17 p.m. > Para: joni > Asunto: Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, njc > > > Looks and attractiveness are so very subjective. There are > the classic good looks, like a Muller, or the not so good looking but hot, > like Gary Sinise. The adorable, like Wally, the oddly attractive, David > Hyde Pierce, ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:57:51 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: byrds & dylan Re: the attraction of Rufus, was: the attraction of Dylan -- still NJC >McGuinn persisited and gave Crosby a set of the lyrics written out. Crosby came back and said "This is beautiful. We gotta do it." The rest, as they say, is history.< my female trio has been performing 'lay down your weary tune' written by Dylan, I learned it from listening to the byrds... we're getting lots of good feedback on this song so I hope to record one of our live shows & make it available before too long ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #50 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)