From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #49 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, February 2 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 049 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, etc still NJC [Lori Fye ] Re: the attraction of Rufus, was: the attraction of Dylan -- still NJC ["McMillan Brad" ] (NJC) Weird opportunity for a mini-JMDL-fest [Lori Fye ] Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, njc [Bob Mull] Re: Leonard Cohen njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Good Friends Demo - Geffen Recordings [Michael Paz ] Re: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: MOA...whoa!!!!! ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: now: the queenyness of Rufus -- njc [Em ] LOTC review in latest (Jan/Feb) issue of Magnet [Bob Muller ] Re: Goat Dances [Catherine McKay ] Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, etc still NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) [Catherine McKay ] Conor Oberst ["David Henderson" ] NJC! ["David Henderson" ] MOA ["David Henderson" ] Starbucks CDs ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:00:28 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, etc still NJC > For me, the great attraction of Mr Bob Dylan, initially, was his nose. > He has the most gorgeous beautifully shaped beak. And it has remained > lovely as he has aged. I could view it from diff angles for hours. Em, if I didn't already know from the other list we're both on (and the reason that I know you in the first place) that you're so ... I'm not sure of the word ... weird isn't quite it ... Anyway, if I didn't already know that, I'd think it now. And I love you!!! : ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, etc still NJC LOL, Lori, the best thing for me is finding folks to be weird *with*. And on here, it seems to be pretty much allowed. I love everyone's weirdness on here - - different though it may be from my own. I detect a rainbow of good weirdness on JMDL. Thanks for the love....feels good (and I need it). :) Em - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Em, if I didn't already know from the other list we're both on (and > the reason that I know you in the first place) that you're so ... I'm > not sure of the word ... weird isn't quite it ... > > Anyway, if I didn't already know that, I'd think it now. > > And I love you!!! : ) > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:16:10 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: now: the attraction of Rufus, was: the attraction of Dylan -- still NJC > And Rufus keeps his nose clean, with the hairs clipped, unlike Dylan. That's fecking funny, Smurf! But ... oy. I have to admit, I don't much like either of them and I don't care a whit about their schnozzolas. Am beginning, at the advanced age of 46 1/2, to appreciate Dylan more -- but only for his writing, certainly not for his voice. Rufus is just too dramatic and queeny for my taste, nevermind the nasal thing. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:17:40 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: now: the attraction of Rufus, was: the attraction of Dylan -- still NJC > In my all girl catholic high school I went to This explains so much to me, Em. ; ) Rock on, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:39:16 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: A little good news (NJC) Congratulations Sherelle! I can't think of anyone who deserves this more. Please keep us posted on the dates and keep on rockin' girl! Love Donna >>> "Sherelle Smith" 1/31/2005 10:32:02 AM >>> Hi everyone, I found out for sure last Thursday that I am going to play the lead role in a musical play about Roberta Flack. The fellow I worked with before who I now consider a friend, David has written it. He's a little out there but he has a good heart and he is very determined. he may be a little eccentric, but he doesn't lie. He says that he has spoken to Roberta Flack and gotten her blessing on the project. She lives here in the DC area. I've had the chance to read with the characters who will play Donny Hathaway and Peabo Bryson. It's a do-able script...very original. I can't really say much more about it because I have to sign a confidentiality agreement on its contents. David Whitehead (the playwright) is a very determined person who I think will succeed through sheer willpower alone. As some of you know, I've been through my share of ups and downs in this city (DC) but I still have had so many opportunities that have not come to others working musically here. I'm very fortunate. I don't know why it has been happening but I'm going to go with the flow. Our first performance is tentatively scheduled for sometime in March at Eastern Market theater in Capital Hill. There will be other performances hopefully in Baltimore and Philadelphia. David said to me during our meeting last Thursday, "I think I've gotten it right this time" and I think he just may be right. I'll keep everyone posted. Keep thinking good thoughts! Love, Sherelle This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:29:58 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: the attraction of Rufus, was: the attraction of Dylan -- still NJC In a segment of the "History of Rock & Roll" that ran on the History Channel or Discovery (I forget which), Roger McGuinn and David Crosby were talking about how they happened to do "Tamberine Man". McGuinn and Crosby usually worked out the arrangements for the Byrds. McGuinn said he told Crosby he wanted to do a Dylan song. Crosby said "hell, no", because he couldn't stand the way Dylan looked or sounded. McGuinn persisited and gave Crosby a set of the lyrics written out. Crosby came back and said "This is beautiful. We gotta do it." The rest, as they say, is history. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smurf" To: "Em" ; "Les Irvin" ; Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:37 PM Subject: now: the attraction of Rufus, was: the attraction of Dylan -- still NJC > Well, Em, if you're really "picky" about noses (ha-ha!), you should check out the exquisite honker on Mr. Rufus Wainwright. It's what gives his voice that "whiny" (AKA "nasal') quality that Les complains of, despite Dylan's much more legendary, frightful whine. And Rufus keeps his nose clean, with the hairs clipped, unlike Dylan. > > --Smurf > > NPIMH: "Pinocchio is now a boy who wants to turn back into a toy" (From "Vibrate" by Rufus) > > Em wrote: > > And I'm picky. > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:52:39 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Conor Oberst on being the next Bob Dylan njc Jerry wrote: > I'm leery of anyone being called the next Bob Dylan, or the next Joni, for that > matter. The singers who are called that are probably WEARY of it, as well. Afterall, wouldn't you want to be known as yourself and not the "next" somebody else? (Sounds like a lyric to me.) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:08:17 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: A little good news (NJC) Hi Ruth! That's exactly where Easten Market is and it's a pretty interesting area! I just heard from the playwright who is "getting his ducks in a row" so to speak and he's nailed down the first performance to April. I let him know that I need to get any locked in dates and ticket prices as soon as possible. I would love to see you while you are in town! Market 5 Gallery is a very open and acoustic place that doubles as an art gallery when there is no performance. You almost don't need a microphone! It is so cool that your mother went to see Roberta Flack in the 60's. I hear she pretty much owns this town and has a very devoted following here. Her name in the subject line of the play alone should bring in a crowd. I'm going to stay on top of this and make sure everything turns out right. This is also a tribute to Roberta Flack who in my mind, deserves the very best. I hope we can give it to her. I'll keep you posted and I look forward to seeing you! Sincerely, Sherelle Ruth wrote: Way to go, Sherelle! My mother lives on Capital Hill, about 3 miles from the Eastern Market, and I am planning a visit soon. I would like to co-ordinate it with seeing your show. My mother used to go see Roberta Flack in the 60's when she played in clubs in DC - I am sure she would love to see this! Please keep us posted regarding the DC date and let us know when tickets go on sale. Ruth P.S. I also look forward to meeting any other JMDLers who come to the show! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:14:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: "Roberta" musical play update Hi friends, This is only tentative but David is setting the play for the last weekend in April. As soon as I get exact dates (Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday) confirmed as well as ticket prices confirmed I will let you know. Trust me that ticket prices won't be exhorbatant because I am the new kid on the block! Stay tuned! Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:47:23 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Paranormal NJC this one may seem odd. Do any of you believe in spirits (separate from religious belief)? I've been thinking about these things a lot lately, not sure why. Has anyone here had any paranormal experiences? how did it feel? Did it/does it recur? Email me privately if you prefer. i've found that many people have had these expereinces even if they don't believe in "that kind of thing". Do you know of any good web resources i could check out GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:39:15 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Weird opportunity for a mini-JMDL-fest So -- oofda! -- I'm goin' to Fortuna, North Dakota in July. Actually, I'm organizing a reunion for people who were stationed at the Air Force radar installation there, which covers a period from 1951 to 1980. This is smack in the wheat fields of Paprika Plains, vast and bleak, about 6 miles from the border with Saskatchewan. Some old veterans from other radar units told me no one would have an interest in traveling back to Fortuna -- it's a pain in the ass to get there by plane and so forth -- but damn if I don't have at least 40 people who say they're going and then you have to count the locals who are all excited about it. The news has been in the local papers there and was even printed on the telephone bill a few months ago. People have been joining my Yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fortuna_afs/) by the dozens for the past few weeks (last count was 128, with about 30 others in "bounce" land). Anyway, all this is to say that I'll be in Fortuna, ND and in Westby, Montana the weekend of July 8-10, so if any of you prairie dwellers want to come down (or over, as the case may be) and join us for some real and strange fun, you're welcome. We're probably going to hire a DJ/karoake dude from Williston, so there will be some music (although I'm fixin' to encourage some of the guys who use to have bands to bring their instruments along -- wouldn't a jam session be much better?). Lori http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/dt-fortuna.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:13:02 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Leonard Cohen njc I love the Jennifer Warnes and really like the Judy (Haven't lived with that one long enough to know whether I love it, too.) But Judy's version of Dress Rehearsal Rag sent me in search of Leonard himself (once his first lp came out). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Notaro Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:07 AM To: Mark or Travis; Joni List Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen njc > McMillan Brad wrote: >> >> Gotta agree with you to an extent about Hejira. Of course, someone >> here was extoling the virtues of Leonard Cohen recently. I could >> never stand to hear Cohen because he sang EVERYTHING in the same >> minor key monotone, but his words were beautiful. > > Pick up Judy Collins's latest cd, 'Judy Collins Sings Leonard Cohen: > Democracy.' The beauty of both > the melodies and the words will leap out at you. > > I have a couple of Leonard Cohen's records on vinyl but I haven't listened to > them for years and > years. I've been thinking about picking some of them up on cd. I remember > that his singing did > have a droning but also soothing quality to it. Quiet and haunting. I think > my next search, > however, will be for Jennifer Warnes' 'Famous Blue Raincoat.' Absolutely. One of an all time favorite of mine (surprise, right Mark??). In fact, I just got a cd of Leonard and Jennifer together in concert. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:48:00 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, njc mackoliver wrote: Thanks for that - And I have to agree...I always thought I was sorta goofy looking but since joining this group I've learned otherwise. Just wish I would have known this in High School, I would have had a lot more fun than I did. Bob NP: XTC, "That's Really Super, Supergirl" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:57:16 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen njc Mark or Travis wrote: It is, Mark...I got it as a gift from a special JMDL pal, and I like it a bunch. While I appreciate the haunting quality of Leonard's voice, and the high quality of his songs, I prefer hearing Jennifer's interpretations. Then again I guess I'm somewhat of a covers slut anyway. Bob NP: Peggy Chew, "Sweet Sucker Dance" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:57:29 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Good Friends Demo - Geffen Recordings Bob Does this mean you want me to stop sending you cd's in the mail as well? I have a BIG box I am working on from my main collection. I am downsizing my stash. I am missing a bunch of covers though that I will ask you for at a later date when I catch up with myself. I am also working on transferring a bunch of Eric Johnson stuff at the moment. Best Paz NP-Eric tuning > Wally Kairuz wrote: > material on cd. i know bob muller must know how to deal with this thing.> > > I plead ignorance & incompetence, Wally - I've tried a couple of variations on > the peer-to-peer thing and never could get it to work. Then on top of that, > I've gotten to where I have so much in terms of live stuff that I don't really > WANT any more...note this statement does not extend to Joni covers or other > Joni stuff. > > You are right in saying that the 1985 Rock Master Class is a must have, not > just for the unplugged DED stuff but for the great interview and the > Paprika-like piano improv that Joni performs. Very nice - hopefully this is > available on the P2P thingy, I'm certain that the early Joni stuff is. > > Bob > > NP: Dusty Springfield, "You've Got A Friend" > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:06:57 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) Hi, gang, This is long and rambly, but I'm in a mood (the reasons for which will become clear if you can slog through this til the end). (1) I'm happy because a few days before Christmas, on the streetcar that runds down the main street here in San Francisco (the F-Line, for those in the know), a terrible man got on the trolley the same time I did. He was scowlng, and he was dressed entirely in grey; his skin even looked grey. Little by little other people got on (the train was waiting at the Castro Street end), and with each new passenger, some barely audible nasty comment could be heard. It was so sotto voce at first that you couldn't be sure of where it was coming from. A nice other gay gentleman from across the isle could hear it, too, and we looked at each other in puzzlement; we were joined by a third middle-aged gay gentleman, and again, he at first looked around when he heard the grumbling, then joined in our increasing merriment. It didn't take long to figure out it was the Grey Man, as at each stop, his grumbling grew bolder and nastier. The grumbling was variously about how long the driver was taking to get moving, and as we moved down Market Street, at each stop, he would growl at each new rider. It becamse a game of giggling in church, as people would lean across the isle and make comments at *his* expense; when he heard the laughter, he would swing about, glaring, which would make everyone laugh all the harder. In short, the Grinch lost this one. Everyone said "Merry Christmas" as they got off. (2) I'm happy because the other day,Robert and I were walking down another main avenue here, when we passed a homelss gentleman with his cart walk by, his head festooned with a simple brown paper bag held on by rubber bands. Written on the bag in large red magic marker: GO NUTS! GO GREYHOUND!! We applauded, and he smiled and nodded in acknowledgement. (3) I'm happy because just about a week ago, a boom car (one of those cars with the bass boosted so loud, your filling vibrate) went by with a rap I'm not familiar with, with the refrain "I'm Stupid!! I'm stupid!!" The occupants of the car were happily shouting along. (4) I'm happy because I live in a doggy building, i.e., one of the not-so-many where you can have pets without having to hide them from the landlord. I've talked a lot about Skeeter, the magical fold-up-like-a-card-table greyhound that our friend and neighbor Richard lets us borrow. But there's also a woman on the third floor who owns three dogs and takes care of many others. Her own dogs also like to come in and visit, my favorite being a very stoic old black pug who absolutely refuses to walk in the rain, which is how I got to know him. I noticed him one day sitting in our lobby all by himself. I sat down next to him and asked where everybody else was. He looked at me wryly. At that point, Chloe came in with five or six soaking wet dogs. Pugsly, disgusted, wouldn't even let the other dogs near him until Chloe dried them off, she informed me. Since then, I take him in if I hear the crowd coming up the stairs on a rainy day. (5) I'm happy because with all my neuropathic problems of the last two years, I could hardly manage simple procedures like doing the dishes (we have all plastic glasses now, I got tired of breaking them), taking out the garbage, or on bad days, getting on a bus without tripping. That's not the happy part; the happy part is the kindness of strangers, like the many busdrivers who are patient with my stumbling, and once, when I was struggling to get the garbage out the back door and dropped everything during the morning rush hour, and a lovely, immaculately dressed woman on her way to work helped me pick it all up. (6) I'm happy because for some unknown reason, after getting steadily worse for the last three years, that same neuropathy started receding -- so slowly, I didn't notice it at first. I'd gotten in the habit of rarely logging on anymore because I couldn't type more than 10-15 words per minute; and playing piano was too painful, so that was out. And then, for reasons unknown, just at the beginning of this year (and coinciding with our getting a new hand-me-down Mac), I started noticiing I was typing more like 25 words a minute; then thirty. And at the moment, I can manage almost forty (I never did better than sixty in my life). And I played the piano for the first time in six months today, and found I could play songs I already knew so-so, and songs I'd just gotten the sheet music to (I just got TI in the mail this week!) surprisingly well. (7) I'm happy becuase four years ago, when I got my first internet ready PC, the first thing I did was to see if there was a website or two devoted to Joni Mitchell. Can you *imagine* my good luck? I get a PC and the first group of people I stumble on is you. (8) And today, I'm *very* happy because the possible bad news I was "sitting on" was a concern that my lymphoma had come back after nine years. I saw the specialist today: and it hasn't. I got home, put Job's Sad Song on the piano (this was the song that got me through my first time with cancer), and sang it with joy. Thanks to all of you for being such a great community; for being such good friends. Love, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:08:33 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Conor Oberst on being the next Bob Dylan Jerry Notaro wrote: I saw him back in November, opening for REM & Bruce on the Vote For Change tour. Really thought he was awful and out of place then, but based on all the review and hype I picked up both of his CD's last week. "Digital Ash in a Digital Urn" is a bit trip-hoppy and electronic (as one would surmise from the title) but it's much more about melody than rhythm which is odd for music of that genre and I like it better than I thought I would. I REALLY like the 'folkier' of the 2, "I'm Wade Awake, It's Morning", an acoustic outing in which he duets with Emmylou on three tracks - very nice stuff. Good words and good music - he's got a big future ahead. His voice can be a bit rough at times but once you get seasoned to it no prob. Bob NP: Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Californication" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:12:11 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: WALLY IN THE US IN FEB!!! njc/updates Thanks very much Sherelle. I will check them out. I actually met Terri Hendrix thru our very own Nikki Johnson. I have a phone number for her and I will try and call her tomorrow. Love Paz > Hi Paz, > > So glad that the shipments got off where they are most needed! I was > checking out my Just Plain Folks newsletter and one of the people that > contributed to the newsletter was from Sri Lanka I believe. He put out an > urgent plea that instead of money, they now need medicine and the drops that > are put into the water to protect people from water-born illnesses. Also a > singer/songwriter from Texas by the name of Terri Hendrix put out a plea to > pass on any addresses of those who are helping in a similar regard. her > website is www.terrihendrix.com. I thought I would pass this info on and let > you know that no matter what the media says, you are definitely on the right > track! > > Love, Sherelle > > Paz wrote: > > I just heard from my sister that I have to go to Miami sometime in March or > April for a fundraiser for the Ruth Paz Foundation that one of the hostesses > from UniVision, Maria Celeste Arrabas' from "Al Rojo Vivo" (she use to be on > Primer Impacto) is throwing for us. They are trying to get Gloria and Emilio > Estefan involved. I will let all you well heeled Floridians know before it > happens. It's a bargain at $1000 a plate (not clear if you get to keep the > plate or not though). It sounds like it will be a lot of fun. I guess I have > to get my Armani hosed down. > > Special thanks to the ever supportive Ashara Stansfield for her very > generous contribution to the South Asia relief fund. A shipment is leaving > this week for Oregon to hook up with the Northeast Medical Teams who have > been in country for awhile. Still no word on when Dennis and Dr. Heiman and > I are headed that way. I will keep you guys updated. > > > Love > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:16:47 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: "Roberta" musical play update NO NO NO Not that weekend. One of the busiest weekends of the year for me (1st weekend of Jazz Fest) Say it's sooner please!!!! Paz NP-Steve's Boogie-EJ > Hi friends, > > This is only tentative but David is setting the play for the last weekend in > April. As soon as I get exact dates (Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday) > confirmed as well as ticket prices confirmed I will let you know. Trust me > that ticket prices won't be exhorbatant because I am the new kid on the > block! Stay tuned! > > Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:28:29 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) Walt I don't know you beyond this site, but you have just encouraged me with your wonderful attitude. When I get up in a moment and start creaking out of my office and go limping to the elevator (arthritis in the hip and knees secondary from a motorcycle wreck many moons ago), I will remember to feel grateful for small things like beautiful music and my big furry dog and good friends and insightful JMDLrs like you. I usually am able to maintain a positive, "I woke up again" attitude. But sometimes, 24/7 pain can wear one down. Reading your words about playing the piano again, I am reminded of how much I would lose if I suddenly could not play my guitars. I am grateful that my hands don't hurt! Congrats on the apparent recent remission. And thanks again for sharing your great attitude. brad - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) > Hi, gang, > > This is long and rambly, but I'm in a mood (the reasons for which will become > clear if you can slog through this til the end). > > (1) I'm happy because a few days before Christmas, on the streetcar that > runds down the main street here in San Francisco (the F-Line, for those in the > know), a terrible man got on the trolley the same time I did. He was scowlng, > and he was dressed entirely in grey; his skin even looked grey. Little by > little other people got on (the train was waiting at the Castro Street end), > and with each new passenger, some barely audible nasty comment could be heard. > It was so sotto voce at first that you couldn't be sure of where it was > coming from. A nice other gay gentleman from across the isle could hear it, too, > and we looked at each other in puzzlement; we were joined by a third > middle-aged gay gentleman, and again, he at first looked around when he heard the > grumbling, then joined in our increasing merriment. It didn't take long to > figure out it was the Grey Man, as at each stop, his grumbling grew bolder and > nastier. The grumbling was variously about how long the driver was taking to > get moving, and as we moved down Market Street, at each stop, he would growl at > each new rider. It becamse a game of giggling in church, as people would > lean across the isle and make comments at *his* expense; when he heard the > laughter, he would swing about, glaring, which would make everyone laugh all the > harder. In short, the Grinch lost this one. Everyone said "Merry Christmas" > as they got off. > > (2) I'm happy because the other day,Robert and I were walking down another > main avenue here, when we passed a homelss gentleman with his cart walk by, his > head festooned with a simple brown paper bag held on by rubber bands. > Written on the bag in large red magic marker: GO NUTS! GO GREYHOUND!! We > applauded, and he smiled and nodded in acknowledgement. > > (3) I'm happy because just about a week ago, a boom car (one of those cars > with the bass boosted so loud, your filling vibrate) went by with a rap I'm not > familiar with, with the refrain "I'm Stupid!! I'm stupid!!" The occupants > of the car were happily shouting along. > > (4) I'm happy because I live in a doggy building, i.e., one of the > not-so-many where you can have pets without having to hide them from the landlord. > I've talked a lot about Skeeter, the magical fold-up-like-a-card-table greyhound > that our friend and neighbor Richard lets us borrow. But there's also a > woman on the third floor who owns three dogs and takes care of many others. Her > own dogs also like to come in and visit, my favorite being a very stoic old > black pug who absolutely refuses to walk in the rain, which is how I got to know > him. I noticed him one day sitting in our lobby all by himself. I sat down > next to him and asked where everybody else was. He looked at me wryly. At > that point, Chloe came in with five or six soaking wet dogs. Pugsly, > disgusted, wouldn't even let the other dogs near him until Chloe dried them off, she > informed me. Since then, I take him in if I hear the crowd coming up the > stairs on a rainy day. > > (5) I'm happy because with all my neuropathic problems of the last two years, > I could hardly manage simple procedures like doing the dishes (we have all > plastic glasses now, I got tired of breaking them), taking out the garbage, or > on bad days, getting on a bus without tripping. That's not the happy part; > the happy part is the kindness of strangers, like the many busdrivers who are > patient with my stumbling, and once, when I was struggling to get the garbage > out the back door and dropped everything during the morning rush hour, and a > lovely, immaculately dressed woman on her way to work helped me pick it all up. > > (6) I'm happy because for some unknown reason, after getting steadily worse > for the last three years, that same neuropathy started receding -- so slowly, I > didn't notice it at first. I'd gotten in the habit of rarely logging on > anymore because I couldn't type more than 10-15 words per minute; and playing > piano was too painful, so that was out. And then, for reasons unknown, just > at the beginning of this year (and coinciding with our getting a new > hand-me-down Mac), I started noticiing I was typing more like 25 words a minute; then > thirty. And at the moment, I can manage almost forty (I never did better > than sixty in my life). And I played the piano for the first time in six months > today, and found I could play songs I already knew so-so, and songs I'd just > gotten the sheet music to (I just got TI in the mail this week!) surprisingly > well. > > (7) I'm happy becuase four years ago, when I got my first internet ready PC, > the first thing I did was to see if there was a website or two devoted to Joni > Mitchell. Can you *imagine* my good luck? I get a PC and the first group > of people I stumble on is you. > > (8) And today, I'm *very* happy because the possible bad news I was "sitting > on" was a concern that my lymphoma had come back after nine years. I saw the > specialist today: and it hasn't. I got home, put Job's Sad Song on the > piano (this was the song that got me through my first time with cancer), and > sang it with joy. > > Thanks to all of you for being such a great community; for being such good > friends. > > Love, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Good Friends Demo - Geffen Recordings Michael Paz wrote: No, keep 'em coming, bro. I especially love the jazz stuff, and I pride myself on being able to find a happy home for all of it. Have donated some of them to our local library with a tag "from the personal collection of THE Mr. Michael Paz" and lemme tell you they come from miles around to chaeck them out. < I am missing a bunch of covers though that I will ask you for at a later date when I catch up with myself. I am also working on transferring a bunch of Eric Johnson stuff at the moment.> Know what you mean - always lots to do. I still some Joni shows I haven't transferred to CD yet! Need to buy a new tapedeck first, my NEC finally went to that big Circuit City in the Sky about a month ago. Bob NP: Patricia van Nunen, "Blue" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:17:34 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: now: the queenyness of Rufus -- njc Lori wrote: > Rufus is just > too dramatic and > queeny for my taste Since I've been fact-checking your emails lately, Lori, I'd like to clarify the above statement. What exactly do you mean by *queeny*? I just don't see Rufus' act as queeny at all. I have only seen him perform on his "Live at the Filmore" DVD and on Letterman's show a couple of times in '02 and '03, so I could be wrong. I have seen lots of "openly straight" performers over the years (like Mick Jagger and Ray Davies and Prince, for just a few) act a thousand times more queeny on stage than Rufus does, in my opinion. They have also been a lot campier, or "dramatic," as you say. But as I said, maybe you have seen some performance(s) I haven't seen. Most of the time when Rufus is singing, I'd say he *seems* like a straight man -- whatever that means. If I didn't know his sexual orientation, however, I think I would assume that he was a member of our tribe by his gestures and his speaking voice and its intonations -- but that's only when he speaks. But when he performs I don't see or hear much of this queeniness of which you speak at all. And the campiness, for me, is mostly the result of his over-the-top musical productions, rather than the way he carries or presents himself when he performs. In any case, dear Lori, you are going to be in the deepest, darkest shit you can imagine when our beloved Queen Lulu reads about your distaste for queeny types. She is going to make you kiss her royal arse, my friend. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Mwah! - --Smurf Hilton Burton Burton Warner Fortensky van Tiel Wainwright Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:06:33 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: MOA...whoa!!!!! Garret wrote: > Glad you like MOA! I agree with everything you said. And yes, i > often think that this album represents joni's voice at it's most > pleasant to listen to. > > if i'm not wrong this came after C & S so FTR had been around a > couple of years (??). the great thing about it was that Joni had > just released a relative hit in C & S and didn't load the MOA concert > down with C & S material (not that that would have been bad), only > people's parties, right? > I very much love MOA as well. Like Lori, I bought this live recording before owning several of Joni's early albums including 'Blue' and 'For the Roses'. So those were the first versions of 'Blue', 'A Case of You', 'Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire', 'Woman of Heart and Mind', 'The Last Time I Saw Richard' and 'Carey' that I heard. The record is full of wonderful performances. There have been recordings from specific dates of the same tour that MOA came from that have floated around and been traded on the list. I believe they show that Joni did perform other songs from 'Court and Spark' on this tour. I think that since 'MOA' came out fairly soon after 'C&S', a decision was made not to include many songs from 'C&S' on 'MOA'. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:09:41 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: now: the queenyness of Rufus -- njc so, you think this means "Rufus Is (not) a Tit Man" like in his old man's song? :) Em ps: realized today I'd never really seen Rufus, so I Googled up some pics - and I could imagine nose hair (especially 30 years from now).... not that that matters! > If > I didn't know his sexual orientation, however, I think > I would assume that he was a member of our tribe by > his gestures and his speaking voice and its > intonations -- but that's only when he speaks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:19:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: LOTC review in latest (Jan/Feb) issue of Magnet Picked this magazine up a couple weeks ago in my my local record store, it's an alternative music magazine called Magnet. Lo & behold, on page 114 is an article called "Escape to LA: Randy Newman, Joni Mitchell, David Crosby". They review 6 records from early 70's singer-songwriters: Randy Newman - 12 Songs David Crosby - If I could Only Remember My Name Joni - LOTC Michael Nesmith & The First National Band - Loose Salute Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson Jacksone Browne - Jackson Browne Here's what they say about LOTC: "Discovered and promoted by Crosby (in his language, that also translates to "seduced"), Mitchell had two gentle misfires before knocking out 1970's Ladies Of The Canyon, the defining statement of the era and area. Mitchell was responsible for all the composition and arrangements on the record, and the jazz obsession that would mar her later albums (which always seem to be quietly playing in crappy used bookstores) was introduced here, but to artful effect. The quickly strummed "Conversation" ends in an amazing vocal/saxophone sparring match. The coupling of "The Arrangement" and "Rainy Night House" creates a disquieting centerpiece that is the yardstick by which the craft of piano balladry can be measured. The 80's would be brutal to every artist featured here. Mitchell responded in 1985 with Dog Eat Dog, a diatribe against the decade's materialism and political grandstanding." (Andrew Earles) Bob NP: The Doobie Brothers, "Music Man" Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:41:42 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: LOTC review in latest (Jan/Feb) issue of Magnet Bob Muller wrote: > "Discovered and promoted by Crosby (in his language, that also > translates to "seduced"), Mitchell had two gentle misfires before > knocking out 1970's Ladies Of The Canyon, the defining statement of > the era and area. Mitchell was responsible for all the composition > and arrangements on the record, and the jazz obsession that would mar > her later albums (which always seem to be quietly playing in crappy > used bookstores) was introduced here, but to artful effect. Well it's nice that this reviewer likes LOTC but otherwise they don't seem to get what Joni's about at all. Thanks for posting this, Bob and for the info about 'Famous Blue Raincoat'. Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:46:59 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) Thank you for the uplift, Walt. So glad to hear of your improved health! But, I'll keep drinking to it, just to be on the safe side. :-) Your anecdotes of the City are priceless...especially since I've ridden the F Line down Market Street many times, and I know what a surreal adventure it can be. Like no place on Earth, my San Francisco. Thanks for sharing. You've buoyed me. Now I'm off to see Hotel Rwanda here in Marin. I've been grooving to Wyclef Jean's cut from the soundtrack CD. It features the Children's Choir of Africa and is just too precious a listen. Ciao, - -Julius In a message dated 2/2/05 4:10:16 PM, Justalittlebreen@aol.com writes: > Thanks to all of you for being such a great community; for being such > good > friends. > > Love, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:49:24 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re:the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, etc still NJC <> LOL, Em!! I always thought Dylan's nose kinda looked liked Mr. Burns's nose from the Simpsons cartoon. Come to think of it, they have similar voices! Mia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen njc --- Mark or Travis wrote: > > I think my next search, > however, will be for Jennifer Warnes' 'Famous Blue > Raincoat.' Does anyone know if it's still in > print? > It should be, Mark. I bought a copy not too long ago (aw, crap, it could've been 5 yrs ago - it's all the same to me, but I don't think it was that long.) It's a classic and rightly should never go out of print. (And if it does, let me know and I'll burn you a copy!!!) Check out amazon and I'm sure you'll find it. It's definitely one of my favourites. I was listening to Cohen himself not too long ago and the kids asked me to change it, because he sounded too scary. These aren't little kids anymore. Sarah will be 18 in about 3 wks and Matthew's 14. They don't scare that easily. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:17:56 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Goat Dances --- Smurf wrote: > Here's a National Geographic photo of someone doing > the goat dance: > > http://www.nationalgeographic.com/insights/greece/index.html > > The photo includes the following info: > > "Synchronized chaos and the deafening din of bells > draws revelers to the streets of Skyros for the > annual goat dance, a pre-Lenten carnival with hints > of ancient fertility rites. Clad in stifling pelts, > kidskin masks, and loops of metal goat bells > totaling a hundred pounds or more, celebrants fueled > by ouzo stomp and sweat through the night." > > From "Ancient Greece Part IIIAscent to Glory," > February 2000, National Geographic magazine > > Smurf, who thinks it is possible that there's more > than one kind of goat dance Smurf, you are way too cool and smart for our own good. I recently heard an older Joni interview, or maybe it was a recent one where she talked about the old days (I wish I could remember - it could've been something related to her latest re-release of old stuff, the one with the Frida Kahlo/iconic Joni in flaming flowers on the front). She talked about the guy that the song 'Carey' was written for. He wasn't a lover. He was some guy that worked in the local bar or something when they were in Greece during the "szippy" days. (Joni pronouncing "hippy" with a Greek accent.) He was a bit of a character, so I doubt she did the other goat dance with him, but doesn't everything she writes have at least two meanings in any case? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:22:22 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: the attraction of Dylan was: RE: Conor Oberst on being, etc still NJC --- Em wrote: > For me, the great attraction of Mr Bob Dylan, > initially, was his nose. [...] > And I'm picky. Picky. About noses. Heh-heh-heh. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:30:24 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Roberta Flack SHERELLE WROTE: >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:02 +0000 >From: "Sherelle Smith" >Subject: A little good news (NJC) >Hi everyone, >I found out for sure last Thursday that I am going to play the lead role in >a musical play about Roberta Flack. Congratulations Sherelle! I love Roberta Flack. Her album with Donny Hathaway has never been far from me since I was 12 years old. I just had it on today at work, and I think her recording of Sweet Bitter Love is one of the finest recordings ever. Sometimes she gets a bad rap for her 80's music, but I think she's one of the best. Break a leg! And thanks for the note the other day. Joni often makes me laugh too. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:02:15 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Things that make me feel happy/lucky (njc, but some important news at the end) --- Justalittlebreen@aol.com wrote: > Hi, gang, > > This is long and rambly, but I'm in a mood (the > reasons for which will become > clear if you can slog through this til the end). > > (1) I'm happy Walt, I'm happy too - for you! Love you, man!!! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:04:29 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Hejira a blight EADDY WROTE: "Perhaps somewhat could enlighten me and remove this blight (the song 'Hejira). Eaddy, I am so glad you helped me defend 'Richard,' but I completely disagree about 'Hejira.' It's definitely a dark tune, but I can completely relate to those feelings of disillusionment after the loss of a love. For me, 'Hejira represents those moments when you feel completely alone in the world just before you begin to hope again. I guess it's cathartic. I think 'Hejira' is one of her most beautiful and perfect poems; it's so full of fascinating images. These are among my favorite, or possibly my favorite, of Joni's lines: "We all come and go unknown Each so deep and superficial Between the forceps and the stone." What an image. That's the whole of a life in three brief lines. Anyway, my two cents, David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:26:18 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: Conor Oberst Dylan was the first to essentially sing poetry, Oberst says, "you know ... complex prose." "Once he did that, a lot of people followed suit, and therefore he was able to kind of redefine the way people thought of words and music ... so when they keep hoping for someone to do it again, I always find it strange because that can't really happen again." - - --Smurf, thinking he should check out Bright Eyes I've been told Conor is an 'acquired taste.' He's incredibly popular here in New York, but my friends think he's pompous, full of himself. Anyway, I think he writes some really super stuff. Go online and listen to his new cut, "Lua," for a good introduction. David NP Green Day, American Idiot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:26:20 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: NJC! Sorry guys, I keep forgetting the NJC! David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:26:23 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: MOA I love MOA too and like you I was first introduced to C&S, then MOA introduced to the early stuff. In junior high, I loved, loved, loved all of sides 1 and 4, especially these versions of Radio, Rainy Night House and Richard, and I still think Love or Money is really cool (and I think Macy Gray must too!). I remember as a boy being disappointed that only the two new songs had lyrics listed. I never understood why she re-recorded Jericho. I think it's so much better on MOA. Super record! David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:33:13 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Starbucks CDs Joe et. al., I'd be happy to buy the Starbucks disc(s) for you and anyone else overseas who can reimburse in US currency. (Can you use PayPal?) I'll be getting the disc of Joni's influences because she picked 'em. I think it's just like her to make them put "Harlem In Havana" on it. As I said a few weeks ago, I think that song is a latter-day miracle. Lama PS, Go Joni. Go! Joe Farrell asked, >If not is anybody prepared to buy them for me in the USA and send them to me in the UK, i will of course reimburse all costs.> ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #49 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)