From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #33 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 25 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 033 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Jonifest ["Laurent Olszer" ] RE: JMDL Digest V2005 #31 ["David Henderson" ] Re: my joni mitchell tribute record [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Albums that grew on you [KJHSF@aol.com] JOTMAS on Travelogue [Em ] major tom question njc [Em ] Re: The far right, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] (NJC) Another test [Lori Fye ] Re: Peeling back another layer? ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: (NJC) Another test [Catherine McKay ] Re: Peeling back another layer? [Catherine McKay ] jan 25!!!!!!! NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] broadband on power lines, was: the Killers njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" <] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:54:30 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Jonifest > I don't know how the brits and irish are planning to come to JoniFrance > but I > would add that Ryan Air fly to Girona / Gerona and also to Reus, which are > both an hour from Barcelona. I would be happy to show anyone around > Barcelona > and if we get the right crowd together I would be prepared to hire a car > to go > to Corbieres and back to Barcelona (or Girona airport) if costs were > shared > between passengers. > Best case scenario: Chris, Garret, Lucy, or whoever (for example) fly to > Girona or Barcelona and spend a couple of days on the razz with me. I hire > a > car to get 4 or 5 of us to Corbieres and then park the car until it's time > to > go home. I drive the others back to barcelona or girona. It's probably > (I'd > have to check) cheaper doing it this way than going by train. > How does that sound? > mike in bcn Sounds like a plan. Girona is a beautiful city and not as known as Barcelona. Do you have a bus driving licence? Where do I sign up? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:01:30 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2005 #31 Hello Everyone - RE >>>> Did anyone else find that the Joni albums they liked least on first hearing are the ones they grew to love the most? Regards John Southport, UK >>>> Hejira came out when I was in high school. I became obsessed with Song for Sharon, but I didn't like anything else on the album. After I tired of Song for Sharon, I put the album away for several years. When I was about 21, I put it on one day, and that was it, I fell in love with song after song after song. It was so incredible, and I couldn't remember for the life of me why I didn't like it the first time around. Hejira is still one of my two or three favorite Joni albums. RE >>>>> Travelogue is not my favourite, but i certainly like it more than i expected. I wonder how the Amelia fans feel about the reworked version on T. GARRET <<<< I'm not crazy about much of Travelogue either, but I think Hejira is absolutely brilliant. It's worth the price. I swear it's what I heard in my head, from the world created by lyrics, all those years. It feels like a warm fire on a snowy night in the forest, like clarity. That recording is now my all-time favorite Joni song. David NP Emimem, Encore ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:09:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: my joni mitchell tribute record Hi Zach, great to hear from you again, and I'm very excited for all your upcoming Euro-adventures...wish you all the best there. Of course I flip over any and all Joni covers, and after all of the positive feedback I heard about your lovely ACOY cover I'm anxious to hear whatever you record. There are some interesting angles to Joni covers, and it's definitely a good thing that you can appreciate her ENTIRE career output and not just the smaller window that most recording artists work with. You could put together a whole 80 minutes worth of Joni songs that no one has tackled yet! Certainly lots from the 80's & 90's, even some of the 70's stuff. After hearing Holly Near & Cris Williamson's take on Tea Leaf Prophecy & Teri Lynne Carrington's Ethiopia, I would be partial to hearing some earthier and more natural-sounding arrangements of some of those 80's songs. Any way you go, please keep us posted on what's going on with you & your music. Speaking of Natalie, have you seen "Closer"?...definitely not Star Wars. I was impressed. Bob NP: Patti Witten, "Another Minute More" (my fave PW track, definitely influenced by the song "Hejira" featuring a similar riff) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:14:40 -0500 From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Albums that grew on you Both BLUE and HISSING sat in my collection for a year before I "got" them. I bought both on vinyl, listened once or twice, trying to like them, and then put them away. Then, With BLUE, it was as if, one winter evening, my heart just opened up to it. I remember replaying Case of You repeatedly marveling at the interplay of Joni's dulcimer and James' guitar. I'll never forget that winter! I was working in a self service gas station in the middle of nowhere, Ohio, and on into the late-night, I would sit in the station and listen to Joni, and watch it snow out across the farmland from the floodlights of the gas station. With HISSING, I finally "got" it during my summer of pot smoking before my senior year in college. By the way, compared to the rat race life has become at 42, I've got to admit that I was much happier during those salad days of the gas station. "where does the time go?" Ken in Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:20:47 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: JOTMAS on Travelogue Had rejected this - for whatever reasons - its not quite as delicious in t \he conventional sense as the one on FTR. At least that was my initial impression. BUt in a way, I realize now its almost more fitting in a way. Travelogue (tho I've not heard it all) required great courage, I think...and faith. The faith of no tongue in the bell, or a waning one. Can someone tell me; are all the cuts on T'log so good? or are they only as good as the original song? Does some stuff come alive on here that really doesn't hold water in any earlier verison? Shot my Joni music-spending wad yesterday ordering MOA. But T'log might be next. Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:32:07 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: major tom question njc Is Major Tom by Peter Schilling about making love and having an orgasm? eh? you think? em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:49:52 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: The far right, njc Loa wrote: It's their way or goodby.You are not allowed to have a independent thought. They watch only christen shows. All other shows are evil. Same with Movies and Music. The devil is everywhere they say. Hi Loa, I know what you are talking about... some of my friends are fear based like this. The sad part about it is the devil is robbing them of the peace, joy, and freedom to be found in Christ when one puts their trust in God rather than making their salvation dependent on their own policing and fear-based judging. In my observation, it seems this is the same type of sickness that has taken us to war in Iraq. I'm sorry about your lost friendship. I hope in time your friend can be more tolerant and loving. Sometimes people have to learn the hard way and leave a trail of destruction in the process unfortunately. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:51:34 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Another test Another message to disregard. My apologies for the bandwidth. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:03:29 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Peeling back another layer? Catherine, "I think I understand." You're saying that BLUE was a glittering gift, but when she gave us DOG EAT DOG, she "laid an egg". Lama np: a light-bluegrass version of Stephanie Nicks' "Landslide" on our singer-songwriter radio station, WNKU. Catherine said, >Have you heard about the goose that laid the golden egg? That's what she's talking about. Will the next egg be golden, or will it just be... and egg? Will the next song you write be a hit and make lots of money for the record company, or will it be a dud?> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:10:22 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JOTMAS on Travelogue --- Em wrote: > Had rejected this - for whatever reasons - its not > quite as delicious > in t \he conventional sense as the one on FTR. At > least that was my > initial impression. > BUt in a way, I realize now its almost more fitting > in a way. > Travelogue (tho I've not heard it all) required > great courage, I > think...and faith. > The faith of no tongue in the bell, or a waning one. > Can someone tell me; are all the cuts on T'log so > good? or are they > only as good as the original song? > Does some stuff come alive on here that really > doesn't hold water in > any earlier verison? I think the t'log versions of "Flat tires" and "Be cool" are far superior to the original versions. There are others that I think are equal but different, most notably "God must be a boogie man", which is fun on both T and Ming. T songs I always skip over are "Woodstock", "The Circle Game" and "For the roses" which just take TOO LONG to get there, imo; anyway, how many versions "Woodstock" or "Circle Game" is anyone prepared to listen to? ME? Not many! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:12:17 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (NJC) Another test --- Lori Fye wrote: > Another message to disregard. My apologies for the > bandwidth. > > Lori > Sorry. I can't disregard it. :-) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:19:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Peeling back another layer? --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > Catherine, > > "I think I understand." > > You're saying that BLUE was a glittering gift, but > when she gave us DOG > EAT DOG, she "laid an egg". > Nope. I happen to like DED. Unlike some people. It's more like, "whaddya do for a second act?" You have a hit, or a success of some kind, and then there's the constant fear that you won't be able to do it again. Or, the fear that now you've done it and there's no going back. Success could mean giving up your soul. And then, there's the pressure from the record companies to PERFORM, for them, not for you. Get out there and hustle them eggs and make some money for the company. Performance anxiety - for the artist to make something meaningful; for the handlers, to make a profit. And if you're talking about layers, it would probably be an onion. or maybe an ogre. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:35:31 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: jan 25!!!!!!! NJC january 24 may be the saddest day of the year but january 25 is the most fun!!!! let's go absolutely pazzi and shriek into one another's ears! IT IS JODY'S BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! golden dimple girl and dearest late night companion: i love you! H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y *W* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:24:14 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: broadband on power lines, was: the Killers njc Not to me. It's hard enough to keep radio frequency noise out of my TV picture. (I live close to a railroad switching yard and they use radios that cause lots and lots of snow.) If the power company puts noise into the power line ON PURPOSE it will not be a good thing for me. Ham radio operators are completely against it. A few years ago I read that the US has been criss-crossed with fibre-optic cables. They said there's 3x more capacity than we'll ever use, especially in cities. After the big companies laid the fibre they couldn't figure out how to profit from it. A neighborhood will only support so many broadband suppliers and all of the profitable areas are already saturated. The air in Manhattan in particular is so rich with radio signals that some people put thousands of dollars into getting clean power into their stereos. In spite of that, I read that Con Ed (in Manhattan) wants to put computer signals into the power lines. I don't live in Manhatan but I'm against putting electrical "hash" on the power lines. Obligatory Joni quote: >The wires in the walls are >hu-uh-uh-mming. Lama Now playing: Real Good, For Free on the BBC disc. >I read that the electricity supply board here is testing out technology that will enable broadband internet access through regular electricity socket thingys. Apparently that's a reality in some places (would it be a prejudice if i suspect that it may be one of hte scandanavian countries that has this sort of system up and running?) This can only benefit the consumer, right? GARRET> ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #33 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)