From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #25 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 20 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 025 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- A horse is a horse, of course of course [Deb Messling ] Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Cereal killers / Shawn Colvin, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: A horse is a horse, of course of course [Catherine McKay ] Re: Look ma, no hands (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: patty griffin njc [Michael Paz ] West Wing (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? [Randy Remote Subject: A horse is a horse, of course of course >Thanks, Catherine, really neat little interview! Who knew that >everybody's favorite Joni song was inspired by a horse racing form? > > >Catherine McKay wrote: >http://www.rhino.com/rzine/StoryKeeper.lasso?StoryID=295 > > I'm on DIGEST so if this has already been > > posted.....sorry. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:16:15 +0000 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Singers (NJC) With all the recent mention of women whose singing and songwriting people love, I thought I'd mention that I bought myself a 50th birthday present of the Sandy Denny _Boxful of Treasures_. Even if you have the 3 CD set, this is worth every penny. The fifth disc of demos is particularly lovely. Also, my friend Lissa from Toronto bought me the new Judy Collins sings Leonard Cohen, _Democracy_. Cohen's songs always brought out the best in Judy C., and she says in the liner notes that he encouraged her to write her own songs, some of which are womderful--though they are few. In ant event, my birthday is keeping my Cd player busy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:52:18 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? As Jenny points out, "Help Me" was Joni's only Top 10 hit (unless you count the hits that others had with her songs). Jenny, it's easy for me to place Help Me in 1974, I was a junior in High School, and it rotated with Maria Muldaur's "Midnight At The Oasis" as the female pop-jazz hits of the day. One of the few times, if not THE only time that Joni's style coincided with the zeitgeist. If there was an EWF song that was big at the same time, it would have been "Shining Star" or "That's The Way of the World" (both killer songs too!) but I don't associate either of those with that era, or remember hearing them at the same time. And please no more mentions of Terry Jacks!! As for BYT, it was also a hit single for The Neighborhood, who actually charted higher with it than Joni did at around the same time period. As for Joni on CBC's 50 tracks, it would be awfully difficult not to select BSN. Joni herself has put 3 different versions of it on 5 releases. With almost 400 covers, it leaves even stalwarts like BYT, Woodstock, and the campfire fave The Circle Game in the dust. And it's been recorded in: English French Hebrew Japanese German Dutch and probably some others as well. It's been punked, funked, jazzed, bluegrassed, and all points in between and continues to be recorded more now than ever. And if you break it down, it's not just a simple pop ditty, it starts with a simple lyrical observation about clouds, builds to a more personal review of the nature of love, and then closes with a more universal declaration of the inevitability of life itself. And it does so in an alternate tuning, without the benefit of a chorus. For a song to have engrained itself into the global psyche and still inspire artists to tackle it, it's something special. It's complex and simple simultaneously. Bob NP: Stevie Wonder, "As" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:30:40 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Cereal killers / Shawn Colvin, njc I'm no Mary Grace but I can tie together the cereal thread and the Shawn Colvin thread. Shawn Colvin said, > I ate it up like > cereal. > But it was something like shrapnel. STEADY ON (S. Colvin / J. Leventhal) Lama Polifka said, >I don't know about cereal killers, but i'm a cereal eater!!!> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:14:29 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Singers (NJC) rflynn@frontiernet.net wrote: > Also, my friend Lissa from Toronto bought me the new Judy Collins > sings Leonard Cohen, _Democracy_. Cohen's songs always brought out > the best in Judy C., and she says in the liner notes that he > encouraged her to write her own songs, some of which are > womderful--though they are few. That Judy Collins cd is a thing of beauty for sure. There were 2 or 3 songs that I had to look at the liner notes to see what album they were from. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the songs in question were new recordings. Judy's singing on 'A Thousand Kisses Deep' in particular sounds as good as anything she's ever done. It sounds like it could have come off of 'In My Life' or 'Who Knows Where the Time Goes'. 'Famous Blue Raincoat' also stands beside anything that Judy recorded in her prime. Her previous covers of Cohen are classics, imo, and she has added to that roster and created a wonderful new collection. The hauntingly ethereal quality of her voice with it's surprising flashes of raw power from time to time (listen to 'Bird on a Wire' or 'Dress Rehearsal Rag') make it a perfect instrument for Cohen's songs, in my opinion. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:28:05 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: A horse is a horse, of course of course Just so y'know, it wasn't me that posted this - it was Laura. Not Laura the PhD, but Laura of the many letters, est86mlm at ameritech dot net that posted it. I was just quoting her and thanking her for it. --- Deb Messling wrote: > >Thanks, Catherine, really neat little interview! > Who knew that > >everybody's favorite Joni song was inspired by a > horse racing form? > > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:29:12 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > As for BYT, it was also a hit single for The > Neighborhood, who actually > charted higher with it than Joni did at around the > same time period. > I don't remember this. Does it mean it was just a US thing, or does it prove that my brain really has bitten the dust? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:24:54 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Anudder update (NJC) Hi All- I am off to sunny (hopefully) LA tomorrow for a mini-fest with Kakki and Julius and Dulson. Hopefully I will get together with Brad and Rick on Saturday as well and looking for more So. Cal. lister's to sign on. We are having a jam at the lovely Park Inn Anaheim on Friday night after the show. We have a suite booked and guitars and libations should be plentiful. I have had some very good luck this week hooking up with folks in country in Indonesia and today I got a very important reference to someone in Sri Lanka. We are trying to set up a long term project to continue to build the peoples lives back together. I am still trying to put together a plan for Dennis and Doc Heiman and I to go to Thailand and Indonesia sometime on February or March. It is a scary proposition but a risk that I feel I have to take and make. Thanks as always to all the support from you a special holler out to my booooooooy in Argentina, Wallyfacio. Also extra special thanks to my number one boy "in the corner" (who I don't think is that wealthy besides his big heart and big everything else with special mention to his humor and writing ability) Smurph for his financial support and generosity. Above and beyond the call for you love!!!! It serves as more inspiration to continue the quest to help those in need and to be ever more accountable for my efforts. I am truly not worthy to be amongst such wonderful loving and caring people. I wish you all a wonderful weekend and hope to see a bunch off you out in the LA LA land. Kate, Ken, Clark????? Brad, Rick??? Anyone???? Love Paz NP-Catwoman the movie (shudder) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:26:39 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Look ma, no hands (njc) YES YES he does APPLE MAC Puters. I here told he had one of the older ones dipped in pewter. Good to hear from your twisted humor WaltO!!!1 Paz > In a message dated 1/17/05 9:37:32 PM, michael@thepazgroup.com writes: > > >> What about Jerry Notaro?? He has taste in puters >> > > I live in San Francisco, but "puters" is a new one to me. (I assume Jerry > collects pewter...) > > best, > > w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:28:48 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: patty griffin njc I love them all! Including the red one (which is real rocky). I have learned a couple of 1000 kisses and I love to play them. Hope to see you guys. You have me number. Love Paz > someone asked me (but i can't find the email so i can't remember who > asked- was it em?) which patty griffin cd i would recommend- i would say > get 1,000 Kisses first... then try 'Living with Ghosts' ... i am woefully > behind new cd purchases & have not yet bought her new one which i've > heard is great... the other 'released' cd which i forget the name of in > this moment(red something?) i didn't like as much... 'silver bell' (not > released) has some great tracks on it too ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:35:49 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: West Wing (NJC) Calling all Lama's Tried to call you at home and at work tonight. Where the cluck are you? It's Wednesday and West Wing was on. I am way behind in West Wing episodes even tho I love the show. What a great one tonight! But what the cluck is up with Leo??? I know he had by pass surgery but he is like a lame cluck or something. It was an inspirational ending though which I have always felot from his character for the final 365 days of the current administration. Which brings me to a curretn topic online of the pending inaug. tomorrow. Since we are already stuck with him WHY do we need to waste so much moreny on another one?? This goes for the former resident of 8 years as well (Clinton ) It must be about $40 million they are spending, how about spending that money more wisely on something that will actually help someone instead of all the pomp and .... Sorry ya'll Full of piss and .... Tonight Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:46:54 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? On second thought, Big Yellow Taxi is the definitive Joni cut, IMO. When they say "tracks", I assume they mean not just songs, but the actual recording, including the song itself, the singer, and the recording as a whole. BSN fails on this count; it's a pretty plain, lackluster rendition, (I heard it on the radio today). It's a great song alright, though melancholy. On the other hand, BYT is fun, crackles with energy, and is inviting, even as it preaches. It has broad appeal, and contains several catchphrases that have become part of the lexicon. Bottom line, it's a great record that holds it's own with the great records of the 20th century. Randy Remote wrote: > Michael O'Malley wrote: > > > What say you? What's an > > essential Joni track, JMDLers? > > 1 You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio > 2 California ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:52:18 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: patty griffin njc now rickie lee Hey paz have fun at namm... we won't be making the trek there this year... too much going on here to get away... we'll miss seeing you & whoever else is going to the circus :~} Ps just got home from seeing rickie lee jones at the local music club I like to play which was a treat (to see her in such a small venue)... she was solo - - alternating piano & guitar... old & new songs... she sounded great, looked healthy & very very happy... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:11:32 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Number One ? Where's LN top 10? Several others have made the same observation (john prine is the other one people mention)- jeff is always honored to be included in such esteemed company <>Kate, If I've already said this, I apologize. A month ago I heard Townes van Zandt's singing voice for the first time. I thought he sounded a lot like Jeff. Is Jeff aware of Townes? Does he count him among his influences? All the best, Jim ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #25 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)