From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #12 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 12 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 012 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Starbucks CDs... [Jamie Zubairi ] RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... [Smurfycopy@aol.com] RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... [Jamie Zubairi ] RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... [Smurfycopy@aol.com] RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... [Jamie Zubairi ] tsunami forecaster, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] njc,inauguration day ["Patti Parlette" ] Mar Adentro NJC [Emiliano ] Re: Calling all DC area JMDLers (NJC) [Lori Fye ] Joni-content Down Under [Brian Gross ] Harold and Maude - The Musical [Jerry Notaro ] Re: twigged, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Harold and Maude - The Musical ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Calling all DC area JMDLers (NJC) [colin ] Re: twigged, njc ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Re: twigged, njc [hell ] Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs [Randy Remote ] Re: twigged, njc [colin ] Re: twigged, njc ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Joni Starbucks CDs..YES, speaking of..NJC ["Scott and Jody" ] Re: twigged, njc ["McMillan Brad" ] parsonage lane, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: twigged, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] hits ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Mar Adentro NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: twigged, njc [colin ] Re: Ciao Joniphiles NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: twigged, njc [colin ] WOHAM ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] NJC checking in [Em ] Re: twigged, njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: hits ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: hits, Chinese Cafe in particular [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Re: hits, Chinese Cafe in particular [hell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:59:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Joni Starbucks CDs... Hi J The Opus collections seems to be a collection of 'The Essential' of the artist. See link below for what they usually produce. http://www.starbucks.com/hearmusic/index.asp?category%5Fname=Opus+Collections This must've been what she meant by 'Next Release' when she was talking at the Symposium. Perhaps Paprika Plains is on it and is remastered with the piano track 'retuned'. Good snooping! Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- "J. Gonzales" wrote: > Given some recent discussion of this, I went > searching. > > The fine folks at this link here: > http://www.mauricegainen.com/mastering.html appear > to have mastered two > Joni-related Starbucks CDs - one of their "Artist's > Choice" series and > another from what appears to be their "Opus" series > (not sure what that > is). > > An "Artist's Choice" Cd will probably be great. If > "Opus" is a classical > sampler, could be cool too, though it could just be > another Joni > compilation (and will probably outsell both of last > year's!). > > Relurking....J > ___________________________________________________________ How much mail storage do you get for free? Yahoo! Mail gives you 250MB! Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:57 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... Empty . . . Try another (sound of cash register repeatedly ringing up Joni compilations and an repackagings.) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Zubairi Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:00 AM To: J. Gonzales; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Starbucks CDs... Hi J The Opus collections seems to be a collection of 'The Essential' of the artist. See link below for what they usually produce. http://www.starbucks.com/hearmusic/index.asp?category%5Fname=Opus+Collection s This must've been what she meant by 'Next Release' when she was talking at the Symposium. Perhaps Paprika Plains is on it and is remastered with the piano track 'retuned'. Good snooping! Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- "J. Gonzales" wrote: > Given some recent discussion of this, I went > searching. > > The fine folks at this link here: > http://www.mauricegainen.com/mastering.html appear > to have mastered two > Joni-related Starbucks CDs - one of their "Artist's > Choice" series and > another from what appears to be their "Opus" series > (not sure what that > is). > > An "Artist's Choice" Cd will probably be great. If > "Opus" is a classical > sampler, could be cool too, though it could just be > another Joni > compilation (and will probably outsell both of last > year's!). > > Relurking....J > ___________________________________________________________ How much mail storage do you get for free? Yahoo! Mail gives you 250MB! Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:30:43 -0500 From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... This is what I get when I click on the link Jamie provided: Unavailable Catalog Item. Sorry, this catalog item is not accessible. It may have been replaced or moved. Please search or navigate for it from the home page. If you arrived at this page via a link on some other site, please contact the site administrator and report the dead link. If you arrived at this page following selecting a bookmark (favorites) entry, then that bookmark has become obsolete. Please discard your bookmark and browse or search the catalog to find the item you were looking for and update your bookmark. If you arrived at this page following entering the URL in browser, then you may have mis-spelled one or more required arguments. To locate the catalog item you are looking for, please browse or search the catalog. Me again: Is anyone else able to get to that page? - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:38:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... Bizarro! When I tried the link from my post after it came back to me, it seemed to work. Try this one http://www.starbucks.com/hearmusic/category.asp?category_name=Opus+Collections Or go to http://www.starbucks.com and click on 'our stores' and then 'hearmusic' and it'll take you to the various links... Not sure why it isn't working.... It hasn't got any Joni-content (would that be Joni Dis-content?) in it but it'll show you what Opus' (would that be Opi as it's a plural?) they have in their collection. Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > This is what I get when I click on the link Jamie > provided: > > Unavailable Catalog Item. Sorry, this catalog item > is not accessible. It may have been replaced or > moved. Please search or navigate for it from the > home page. > > If you arrived at this page via a link on some other > site, please contact the site administrator and > report the dead link. > > If you arrived at this page following selecting a > bookmark (favorites) entry, then that bookmark has > become obsolete. Please discard your bookmark and > browse or search the catalog to find the item you > were looking for and update your bookmark. > > If you arrived at this page following entering the > URL in browser, then you may have mis-spelled one or > more required arguments. To locate the catalog item > you are looking for, please browse or search the > catalog. > > Me again: Is anyone else able to get to that page? > > --Smurf > ___________________________________________________________ How much mail storage do you get for free? Yahoo! Mail gives you 250MB! Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:53:04 -0500 From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... << http://www.starbucks.com/hearmusic/category.asp?category_name=Opus+Collections >> That works, Jamie, but it brings me to a page that lists collections by Elvis, Nina Simone and Aretha. No Joni. - --S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:12:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... Yes, Smurf.... It isn't out yet... I did say in my last post it was a no joni content site, just examples of what Starbucks Opus' are (I can tell Smurf's handbag being drawn at dawn) hee hee ;) --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > << > http://www.starbucks.com/hearmusic/category.asp?category_name=Opus+Collections > >> > > That works, Jamie, but it brings me to a page that > lists collections by Elvis, Nina Simone and Aretha. > No Joni. > > --S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:43 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: tsunami forecaster, njc Thai Tsunami Forecaster Was Clairvoyant By SUTIN WANNABOVORN, AP BANGKOK, Thailand (Jan. 11) - Until two weeks ago, Smith Thammasaroj was a prophet without honor. As chief of Thailand's meteorological department in 1998, he was accused of scare-mongering when he warned that the country's southwest coast could face a deadly tsunami. He retired under a shadow, dismissed as a crackpot, accused of causing panic and jeopardizing a critical tourist industry that grew up around the tropical resort island of Phuket. Today, Smith is being lionized for his foresight after the devastating Dec. 26 Indian Ocean tsunami, which killed more than 150,000 people around the region, including 5,300 in Thailand, where 3,600 more are listed as missing. Less than a week after the tragedy, Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra appointed Smith as a vice minister and put him in charge of the newly established National Disaster Warning Office, which will work with seismologists to establish a tsunami early warning system. Now when Smith speaks, people listen. And he has a new message: The United States must take some of the blame for the grievous number of casualties. The 68-year-old forecaster - who earned a bachelor's degree in electrical and electronics engineering from the University of Vermont in 1962 - said he believes that if the Hawaii-based Pacific Tsunami Warning Center had acted quickly enough, many lives could have been saved. Workers at the Hawaii center have said they tried in vain to warn Indian Ocean nations about the possible effects of the earthquake but they were not equipped to monitor that part of the world and didn't even have phone numbers for the right officials. The Hawaii center, set up in 1948, hosts the only regional network of its kind in the world, but is set up solely to monitor Pacific Ocean countries. "I'm not angry at them for failing to warn Thailand, because at that time they did not know for sure, they merely said a tsunami was possible after the earthquake," Smith told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Tuesday. But after the giant waves hit southern Thailand, the center had more than an hour to alert India, Bangladesh and the Maldives, "and if they warned those countries, they could have saved thousands of lives," he said. "It's their failure to do so that makes me mad at them," he said. Smith has been equally critical of his own country's meteorologists. He said earlier that staff at the Meteorological Department working on Dec. 26 knew what was coming but failed to act because they were ignored earlier. "They knew exactly what was going to happen, but they ... were afraid to make a decision, because they believed if they made a wrong forecast they would get blamed," Smith said. The Meteorological Department has said it knew about the earthquake and the possibility that it could trigger a tsunami about an hour before waves began slamming ashore. But they said they had no way to determine the size of the waves - and therefore the threat they posed - and were reluctant to issue a warning without such information because it could harm the tourism industry and anger the government. Smith showed no such reluctance when, as head of the meteorological bureau, he made headlines in 1993 and 1998 with warnings about a possible tsunami. His 1998 warning, which came after an earthquake-triggered tsunami killed more than 2,000 people in Papua New Guinea, sent droves of people running for the hills in southern Thailand. But no tsunami hit Thailand, and furious tourism executives and government officials excoriated Smith for his judgment. 01/11/05 13:40 EST ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:31:04 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc,inauguration day Here's the rest of my incomplete email yesterday....I forgot to paste in the message. Sorry -- I've been having some dark cafe days lately, but don't worry -- I'll be sure to take some lessons in survival! ;) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:54:25 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, inauguration day Dear Joni-listers in the U.S.A. (with apologies to all others for taking up your screen space!): It's been a while since we had a voice (November 2, to be exact), but here's a chance for us to speak out loud and clear. A friend just sent me this and I think it's a great idea so I'm forwarding it as fast as I can....apologies for double-posting to some of my favorite folks here.... Peace, Patti Subject: Thursday Jan 20, is "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY" Apologies if you've already received this from somewhere else, but please pass it on. This will only work if everyone who agrees with it participates. Since our religious leaders will not speak out against the war in Iraq, since our political leaders don't have the moral courage to oppose it, Inauguration Day January 20th , 2005 is "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY " in America. On "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY," those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all forms of consumer spending. "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY" please don't spend money. Not one damn dime for gasoline. Not one damn dime for necessities or for impulse purchases. Nor toll/cab/bus or train ride money exchanges. Not one damn dime for anything for 24 hours. On "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY" Please BOYCOTT Walmart, KMart, Target. Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter). For 24 hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down. the object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal: that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it. "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United States of America, not for the international corporations and K Street lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics. "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way. Now 1,200 brave young Americans and (some estimate) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan -- a way to come home. There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY" you take action by doing nothing. You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed. For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, NOT ONE DAMN DIME, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people. Please share this email with as many people as possible. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:01:57 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Mar Adentro NJC Hi, folks! I was wondering... Have anybody here got the chance to watch Alejandro Amenabar's last movie: Mar Adentro (Into the Sea / The Sea Inside: I'm not sure at all how it has been translated). This movie has left me absolutely mesmerized since I watched it last September, and I know it has made its debut in the USA, at least in NYC. It tells the story of Ramon Sampedro: a paraplegic man who fought hardly for his right to die after spending twenty years totally deprived of (auto)movement. He died seven years ago due to a cianure dose his friends helped him with (indeed, his friend Maria Maneiro has just confessed she gave him the dose: her "crime" has just prescribed...) Well, don't you know if you have seen any of the other Amenabar's films (this is the 4th): possibly The Others with Miss Kidman in, or maybe that dreadful Vanilla Sky: a much worse adaptation of his Abre Los Ojos (Open Your Eyes) with (very little) Joni content, by the way... This one is, IMO, his better achievement (and I love every film from Amenabar, for sure!): it's greatly stunning (caveat: there wasn't no eye dry in spanish theaters...). Surely you know Javier Bardem... he's at his peak, here. Plus, since Ramon Sampedro was from Galicia, you'll be able to listen to a little galician language: the one Ramon talks with his father and brother (just a detail, yes) Well, I felt I should recommend it to you, at least instead (or in additon to, if you prefer) of Almodovar's The Miseducation (or it's The Evil Education?) that my wife actually hates! Greetings from Galicia... Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano, counting the days till August 13th NP: Richie Havens: Tupelo Honey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:13:09 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Calling all DC area JMDLers (NJC) > my guess is you mean I'm a fag and you are a dyke and we both attend church > but different one's in different countries. Close? Not close. EXACTLY. We both attend the World Church of Latter Day Homosexshuls. See you on Sunday! ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:21:33 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #1 In a message dated 1/2/05 12:11:52 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: > She was a nice little dog and followed me everywhere. > I will miss her. > Oh, Catherine, I'm so sorry -- a fellow dog- and cat-lover, my thoughts will be with you all this week. hugs, Walt Breen justalittlebreen@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:43:37 EST From: Barolo82@aol.com Subject: Ciao Joniphiles Whew, I'm back. Lost my old e-mail and apparently the Joni page was having trouble with new subscriptions for a while. Glad to see things have not changed much. Still arguing over "Dog Eat Dog"! I like it a lot, and it keeps growing on me, even today. Of the 3 albums of that period, I like DED best, then Chalk Mark and then Wild Things, although all three have moments of Joni brilliance. For Bob Muller: Donald Fagen is working on a new CD according to his webpage, DonaldFagen.com Later, dave c. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:35:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Tom Rush article (joni-mention) http://www.insidedenver.com/drmn/music/article/0,1299,DRMN_54_3463084,00.html At ease Folk singer Tom Rush long ago left rollar-coaster pop world behind By John Lehndorff, Rocky Mountain News January 12, 2005 (there's a very nice article there, with plenty of joni-mention) He does a great live show and always does either Urge for Going or Circle Game. Good Wednesday everyone brian is south jersey, where it feels like spring already, but i don't remember having groundhog day yet...yet...yet...yet.................. ===== Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:39:33 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Joni-content Down Under Walk On By By Jackie Chowns January 13, 2005 Walk On By, ABC, 9.35pm Aunty is giving this popular series another run. Tonight's episode tells the story of the '70s, when the "navel-gazing" singer-songwriter came into his or her own. It features the Grateful Dead; John Lennon; Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young; James Taylor; Carole King; Joni Mitchell; Bill Withers; and Randy Newman. http://www.smh.com.au/news/Review/Walk-On-By/2005/01/12/1105423544338.html?oneclick=true __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:53:23 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Harold and Maude - The Musical The movie has been mentioned often in the past. The play has been mentioned on the list, too. The musical is now playing at the wonderful Paper Mill starring Estelle Parsons. In a bit of Joni synchronicity, Daniel Burstein co-stars, and his wife, Broadway star Rebecca Luker has recently released a cd with River and Chelsea Morning on it. Also she duets on the cd with list favorite Alison Fraser. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:55:23 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: twigged, njc Colin wrote: then I thought 'what the fuck does the woman mean' Hi Colin and Lori! LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! Please, keep writing each other on the list!!! I love this entertainment! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:09:48 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs Gee, I hate to keep being shorthand challenged, but what or who is BSN? thanks brad ----- Original Message ----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com To: bradmcmillan@earthlink.net ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs **But then, she was never one to write songs that lasted exactly 3 minutes and 10 seconds with a repeating fadeout line at the end. And thank goodness for that, although writing a great 3-minute pop song is a valid art form in itself. It is interesting how many of the BSN covers I have heard run 3:20, give or take a second or two. Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Showbiz Kids" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:08:22 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Harold and Maude - The Musical Harold & Maude is one of my all time favorite quirky films, but a musical? Now that I would go see. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: "Joni List" Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: Harold and Maude - The Musical > The movie has been mentioned often in the past. The play has been mentioned > on the list, too. The musical is now playing at the wonderful Paper Mill > starring Estelle Parsons. In a bit of Joni synchronicity, Daniel Burstein > co-stars, and his wife, Broadway star Rebecca Luker has recently released a > cd with River and Chelsea Morning on it. Also she duets on the cd with list > favorite Alison Fraser. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:45:41 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: twigged, njc LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: >Colin wrote: > >then I thought 'what the fuck does the woman mean' > > >Hi Colin and Lori! > > LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! Please, keep writing each other on the >list!!! I love this entertainment! > >Love, >Laura > > > well, Laura, we don't write EVERYTHING to eachother on the list. Some things are private. We have our reputations to think about you know. I mean if some our torrid, lurid, mind blowing mails should accidently be sent to the list.....you get the picture I am sure. We are both 'wed' and you can imagine how our spouses might react. Just between you and me, I only write back to appease her. I have been told that 'heel hath no fury like a woman scorned' and well, with being an ex soldier and much more butch than I, I daren't tell her i am not interested. She keeps a gun, you know. At least that is what I was told. Just between you and I, this whole thing has me very stressed. I mean I am sure Lori is a lovely woman and all that but, well, mmm, I just can't change for her. Women always want men to change, and in most cases they should, I am sure you know that, but my heart is already taken and even if it were not, I'd be no use to the woman. No matter how soldier like she is, I couldn't stand to attention, not even under threat of the firing squad. You being a Dr and all, perhaps you could have a word with her? Maybe you could get her committed? I'd better go. I do hope you don't mind me sharing my problem with you. I trust you and I know you will keep this to yourself. ps if she asks you anything, don't tell her I wrote to you. She is very possessive. If you you accidently let her know, just tell how i wrote to you and told you about 'us' and how hot she is. She'll believe you, being a dr and all. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:46:11 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Calling all DC area JMDLers (NJC) Lori Fye wrote: > >See you on Sunday! ; ) > >Lori > > > see, Laura? I told you. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:05:20 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: twigged, njc are you folks always so droll? and witty? I knew there was something about this JMDL place. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: twigged, njc > LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > >Colin wrote: > > > >then I thought 'what the fuck does the woman mean' > > > > > >Hi Colin and Lori! > > > > LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! Please, keep writing each other on the > >list!!! I love this entertainment! > > > >Love, > >Laura > > > > > > > well, Laura, we don't write EVERYTHING to eachother on the list. Some > things are private. We have our reputations to think about you know. I > mean if some our torrid, lurid, mind blowing mails should accidently be > sent to the list.....you get the picture I am sure. We are both 'wed' > and you can imagine how our spouses might react. Just between you and > me, I only write back to appease her. I have been told that 'heel hath > no fury like a woman scorned' and well, with being an ex soldier and > much more butch than I, I daren't tell her i am not interested. She > keeps a gun, you know. At least that is what I was told. Just between > you and I, this whole thing has me very stressed. I mean I am sure Lori > is a lovely woman and all that but, well, mmm, I just can't change for > her. Women always want men to change, and in most cases they should, I > am sure you know that, but my heart is already taken and even if it were > not, I'd be no use to the woman. No matter how soldier like she is, I > couldn't stand to attention, not even under threat of the firing squad. > You being a Dr and all, perhaps you could have a word with her? Maybe > you could get her committed? > I'd better go. I do hope you don't mind me sharing my problem with you. > I trust you and I know you will keep this to yourself. > > ps if she asks you anything, don't tell her I wrote to you. She is very > possessive. If you you accidently let her know, just tell how i wrote to > you and told you about 'us' and how hot she is. She'll believe you, > being a dr and all. > > -- > bw > colin > http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:42:48 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Re: twigged, njc Brad wrote: > are you folks always so droll? and witty? > I knew there was something about this JMDL place. Just a temporary anomaly - regular programming will resume shortly, and everyone can get back to slagging off DED, damn it! BTW, BSN stands for "Both Sides Now", the album of jazz covers Joni released a couple of years ago. Worth a listen, if you don't mind the "smoking-induced" deeper Joni voice (I personally like it). There are two Joni-penned songs on it, A Case Of You and Both Sides Now, along with other standards like Comes Love and Stormy Weather. You'll probably see acronyms used quite a lot - most of Joni's albums are referred to like this here, eg. STAS = Song To A Seagull, HOSL = Hissing Of Summer Lawns.... Hell - across the "ditch" in NZ, and who thinks DED is a million times better than most of the current top 20 (and better than some of Joni's earlier efforts, so there)! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:26:06 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs Bob was referring to cover versions of Both Sides Now, recorded by other artists. Our "Covers King" has collected hundreds of covers of Joni songs-I believe over half of them are of BSN. Right Bob? RR McMillan Brad wrote: > Gee, I hate to keep being shorthand challenged, but what or who is BSN? > thanks > brad > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > To: bradmcmillan@earthlink.net ; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs > > **But then, she was never one to write songs that lasted exactly 3 minutes > and 10 seconds with a repeating fadeout line at the end. > And thank goodness for that, although writing a great 3-minute pop song is a > valid art form in itself. > It is interesting how many of the BSN covers I have heard run 3:20, give or > take a second or two. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:29:36 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: twigged, njc McMillan Brad wrote: >are you folks always so droll? and witty? > > Yes. But we do have the Only Joni list for those who can't handle it. >I knew there was something about this JMDL place. > you are right there but it's too late for you, you're in and there is no escape. Bet you weren't told that by Mr les were you? No thought not. Oh he seems very nice and looks as if he wouldn't say boo to a goose but beneath that benign exterior lies the gate to Hell itself. And here you are, just an innocent Joni fan. Didn't your mother warn you that rock music would land you in Hell? What? You didn't believe her? Thought she was just an old stick in the mud? Of the folly of youth. The Inner Circle will be in touch with you shortly so i suggest you prepare yourself and cover your behind. The Inquisiton was a picnic compared to these folks. You'd better know what SIQUOMB means, and had better have some idea what 'your notches liberation doll' is all about(no one knows what the fuck that means but maybe you'll get lucky.) DON'T mention Joni's smoking, DON'T say her voice is ravaged and for God's sake don't say she sounds dreadful on BSN. On the other hand, DO say all those things and more. It'll be more fun. You could even say she lost it when she did Mingus, that Blue is the bestest album ever ever even better than Beethoven, Bach and Celine Dion on one album. Even better you could say that Joni is the bestest ever FEMALE songwriter and to just to make it a bit more fun, you can add that Dylan is the best songwriter of all time(note you do not mention his sex). And depending on which hafl of the Inner Circle you wnat to please, you could say you love or hate Bush. Mind you, it doesn't matter which way you go cos they aren't easy to pelase. In fact impossible. you are fucked either wya. Welcome to the list and have a good day..... (Dr Laura will attend to your wounds in a timely manner) - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:54:31 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: twigged, njc Colin; I do appreciate the fair warning. Yes, I believe it is too late. Have I mentioned to anyone that it was one of those damned Starbuck's compilations that got me here? Not a tres long tale, but perhaps best saved for another email. I do wish Joni would quit smoking, only because I don't want to be horrified one day to see a picture of her being wheeled into or out of Cedars of Sinai wearing a nasal cannula. Her voice on BSN was wonderful if different though. Joni and Dylan are much the same to me, not because they sound alike, but because you have to listen to each to figure out what they are singing about. My current favorite Joni lyric is "white flags of winter chimneys", because once I got it, I laughed out loud. I'm not sure about "notches liberation doll", but I think it's related to the sentiment of "I used to count lovers like railroad cars". My favorite album is Court and Spark, no Blue, no Ladies of the Canyon, no, Hejira, no, Miles of Aisles, no wait a minute... I fooled my mother by asking for an acoustic guitar. She thought she was nurturing a young Carlos Montoya. The next thing she heard was Tom Dooley. By the time I had progressed to Canadian Railway Trilogy and Cold Blue Steel, I was out of house and had already stopped listening to her, unless she was quoting Browning. This is a marvelous, eclectic group and I appreciate the welcome I have received. You all are much fun. Brad in Atl ----- Original Message ----- From: colin To: McMillan Brad Cc: colin ; LCStanley7@aol.com ; joni@smoe.org ; tantra@lhasaapso.name ; lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: twigged, njc McMillan Brad wrote: are you folks always so droll? and witty? Yes. But we do have the Only Joni list for those who can't handle it. I knew there was something about this JMDL place. you are right there but it's too late for you, you're in and there is no escape. Bet you weren't told that by Mr les were you? No thought not. Oh he seems very nice and looks as if he wouldn't say boo to a goose but beneath that benign exterior lies the gate to Hell itself. And here you are, just an innocent Joni fan. Didn't your mother warn you that rock music would land you in Hell? What? You didn't believe her? Thought she was just an old stick in the mud? Of the folly of youth. The Inner Circle will be in touch with you shortly so i suggest you prepare yourself and cover your behind. The Inquisiton was a picnic compared to these folks. You'd better know what SIQUOMB means, and had better have some idea what 'your notches liberation doll' is all about(no one knows what the fuck that means but maybe you'll get lucky.) DON'T mention Joni's smoking, DON'T say her voice is ravaged and for God's sake don't say she sounds dreadful on BSN. On the other hand, DO say all those things and more. It'll be more fun. You could even say she lost it when she did Mingus, that Blue is the bestest album ever ever even better than Beethoven, Bach and Celine Dion on one album. Even better you could say that Joni is the bestest ever FEMALE songwriter and to just to make it a bit more fun, you can add that Dylan is the best songwriter of all time(note you do not mention his sex). And depending on which hafl of the Inner Circle you wnat to please, you could say you love or hate Bush. Mind you, it doesn't matter which way you go cos they aren't easy to pelase. In fact impossible. you are fucked either wya. Welcome to the list and have a good day..... (Dr Laura will attend to your wounds in a timely manner) - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:00:58 -0500 From: "Scott and Jody" Subject: Re: Joni Starbucks CDs..YES, speaking of..NJC Hi, Just wanted to chime in and say that some of those artist choice Cds are pretty good. Emmylou Harris is one of my favorites. Gillian Welch sings that song about Elvis, "Didn't he die?" That's one of those songs we talk about. The song that stops us dead in our tracks when we are at the market for example. I work for a Kitchen store that sells Le Creuset cast iron cookware. Just ask the Van Tiels, teeeheeee! Anyway, before our new manager, we were only allowed to listen to Andre Bocelli (SP?) DAY IN AND DAY OUT. He's not the least bit prolific. I was going mad! I almost called his management in hopes to spark some sort of fire under his ass to record something NEW!!! Luckily we have a new manager that's from New Brunswick Canada. She Love's music, especially Joni. Speaking of the starbucks cd's. We have them all to play at work. Dianna Krall plays "Amelia." One day while Amelia was playing a customer exclaimed," Man, I haven't heard Amelia in years!" My first reaction was to question when did he hear Amelia? My only time was listening to Hejera. That's one song I've never heard on the radio. I also play lot's of Covers a la Muller at work too! Although, I play most of the sweet 16stuff. There was a complaint about cheeeze BSN. I also play music from Kate and Jeff, Victor, Fred Simon, Stryngs.................. BTW, I met a couple that are definitely interested in Chris's Bottom. Trish plays bass! Mark from Seattle - Have I got the COFFEE for you! Send me your address! Best to all, jody - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Zubairi" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: RE: Joni Starbucks CDs... > Yes, Smurf.... > > It isn't out yet... I did say in my last post it was a > no joni content site, just examples of what Starbucks > Opus' are > > (I can tell Smurf's handbag being drawn at dawn) > > hee hee > > ;) > > --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: >> << >> > http://www.starbucks.com/hearmusic/category.asp?category_name=Opus+Collections >> >> >> >> That works, Jamie, but it brings me to a page that >> lists collections by Elvis, Nina Simone and Aretha. >> No Joni. >> >> --S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:33:24 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: twigged, njc Colin wrote: Maybe you could get her committed? I'd better go. I do hope you don't mind me sharing my problem with you. I trust you and I know you will keep this to yourself. Hi Colin, Don't take this too hard but you sent all of your innermost secrets about you and Lori to the whole list. I'm sure they will keep it to themselves also. Wink. As for having Lori committed, I'd never be able to catch her on her bike. Thanks for making me smile today Colin. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:42:26 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: twigged, njc In a message dated 1/12/05 3:06:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, bradmcmillan@earthlink.net writes: are you folks always so droll? and witty? I knew there was something about this JMDL place. Hi Brad! Colin and Lori have lifted my spirits for the two years or whatever I've been on the list. I don't think there is a droller and wittier bunch than this group. The DL wouldn't be here if it weren't for the witty droll queen JM. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:50:23 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: twigged, njc Colin wrote: (Dr Laura will attend to your wounds in a timely manner) Colin... they wouldn't want me tending their wounds. The only place I would do that is in the gross lab or under a microscope or in the neuro lab, yes, in a timely manner, like postmortem. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:59:31 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: twigged, njc Laura; You speak the truth. My hard work is usually in the morning. I have become quite fond of looking in my mailbox in the pm to see what chatterings are about with the JMDL folks. brad I'm still mullimg over the possible idealogic connection between "notches liberation doll" and "I used to count lovers like railroad cars". ----- Original Message ----- From: LCStanley7@aol.com To: bradmcmillan@earthlink.net ; colin@tantra-apso.com Cc: joni@smoe.org ; tantra@lhasaapso.name ; lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Re: twigged, njc In a message dated 1/12/05 3:06:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, bradmcmillan@earthlink.net writes: are you folks always so droll? and witty? I knew there was something about this JMDL place. Hi Brad! Colin and Lori have lifted my spirits for the two years or whatever I've been on the list. I don't think there is a droller and wittier bunch than this group. The DL wouldn't be here if it weren't for the witty droll queen JM. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:00:45 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: twigged, njc Why Dr. Laura; Art thou a pathologist? ----- Original Message ----- From: LCStanley7@aol.com To: tantraapso@btopenworld.com ; bradmcmillan@earthlink.net Cc: colin@tantra-apso.com ; joni@smoe.org ; tantra@lhasaapso.name ; lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: Re: twigged, njc Colin wrote: (Dr Laura will attend to your wounds in a timely manner) Colin... they wouldn't want me tending their wounds. The only place I would do that is in the gross lab or under a microscope or in the neuro lab, yes, in a timely manner, like postmortem. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:11:31 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: parsonage lane, njc I listened to Victor's Parsonage Lane the other day in the morning while I was bringing wood inside for the stove. . . Life is for living . . give a listen. . "go outside take your baby for a ride because life is for living." life is for living _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:14:42 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: twigged, njc In a message dated 1/12/05 5:02:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, bradmcmillan@earthlink.net writes: Why Dr. Laura; Art thou a pathologist? Heaven's no Brad. I only deal with the pickled ones... I have a PhD, not an MD. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:23:55 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: hits >You are correct of course about Joni not being a hit maker. But then, she >was >never one to write songs that lasted exactly 3 minutes and 10 seconds with >a >repeating fadeout line at the end. kind of off the subject . . . I can't believe Chinese Cafe wasn't a hit. . I'll never live this down. . (oh and many of her others too. . .) Chinese cafe. . my goodness, WHAT A SONG. if anyone here has not gotten Wild Things Run Fast album yet, by any chance. . it is time. many gems on that "when I saw you standing there I said to myself, here's a place I can break down and care." more to say about Chinese cafe, hopefully soon "paving over brave little parks. . . " that makes me . . . . . . ~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~ Love is superb as well _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:35:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Mar Adentro NJC **Have anybody here got the chance to watch Alejandro Amenabar's last movie: Mar Adentro (Into the Sea / The Sea Inside: I'm not sure at all how it has been translated). Hi Emiliano - "The Sea Inside" is how it's been translated. I saw some clips this week while watching the People's Choice Awards (I'm a sucker for awards shows) and it does look like a powerful film. I've put in on my list, hopefully it will come to our Spring Upstate Film Fest. Rarely do the foreign/indies play at our two multiplexes. Bob NP: Jeff Buckley, "Dream Brother" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:37:58 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: twigged, njc LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Colin wrote: > > (Dr Laura will attend to your wounds in a timely manner) > > Colin... they wouldn't want me tending their wounds. The only place I > would do that is in the gross lab or under a microscope or in the > neuro lab, yes, in a timely manner, like postmortem. > > Love, > Laura If I get killed unusually, I know who to request for my pm then.... - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:14 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Ciao Joniphiles NJC **For Bob Muller: Donald Fagen is working on a new CD according to his webpage, DonaldFagen.com Hiya Dave, welcome back, and thanks for that news. I sure hope it's better than his last solo record Kamakiriad (sucked) or the last Steely Dan disc (really sucked), but I'm skeptical. Sure does sound like Don's run out of ideas (sonically anyway) to me. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:40:08 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: twigged, njc LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/12/05 5:02:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, > bradmcmillan@earthlink.net writes: > > Why Dr. Laura; > Art thou a pathologist? > > Heaven's no Brad. I only deal with the pickled ones... I have a PhD, > not an MD. oh! I thought you were neurosurgeon. not joking now. seriously. I thought that is what you said you were and that now you teach others to be one too. I got that wrong somehow. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:46:59 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: WOHAM Moni You probably know this, but WOHAM has several bonus features, including four bonus songs from PWWAM, sound bites, photos, discography and Tlog promo. Are you saying that the WOHAM presented in the new Collectors Set doesn't include these features? Michael in Quebec - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share a single photo or an entire slide show right inside your e-mail with MSN Premium: Join now and get the first two months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:53:26 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hits/Misses & Tribs **Bob was referring to cover versions of Both Sides Now, recorded by other artists. Our "Covers King" has collected hundreds of covers of Joni songs-I believe over half of them are of BSN. Right Bob? Randy - I'm amazed, because you are typically SO right, but this time you are.... WRONG! Approximately 1 of 4 (383 of 1651, 23%) is a cover of BSN. Of course, these numbers are somewhat misleading because I include covers of a couple songs that Joni didn't compose (Twisted, How Do You Stop, You're So Square, instrumentals of Goodbye Pork Pie Hat), but even with those deleted it wouldn't change a whole lot. And new BSN's are coming out all the time! Brad, besides BSN, you'll also see the following song abbreviations: BYT - Big Yellow Taxi ACOY - A Case of You UFG - Urge For Going And a couple more, all designed to drive Catherine nuttier than she already is. And hey, you're in Atlanta? Cool. Howdy neighbor! Bob in Greenville SC NP: Dead Kennedys, "Soup Is Good Food" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:39 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: NJC checking in Hi all, just popping in to say hi. Have no Joni-thing to say and right now - not even any music stuff at all. Can't get my bike to run right and I am obsessed with it and can't draw a normal breath until its ok, but there is no sign that it *will* be ok. sigh...doldrums and horse latitudes. out to sea in a way here. Anyway, I'm still around - just not in a music place, which makes me sad. Welcome to Brad! hi my name is Em and yep you have come to a good place. For Joni stuff, other music stuff, and life-stuff in general. Enjoy! I hope to be more human soon. I have carburetors on the brain right now and it has ceased to be entertaining. A drag it is. Hope to connect with some music soon. Can't do it right now and it makes me feel less than whole. Em :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:56:35 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: twigged, njc Colin writes: << oh! I thought you were neurosurgeon. not joking now. seriously. I thought that is what you said you were and that now you teach others to be one too. >> No, Colin. I'm the neurosurgeon. - --Smurf van Tiel, M.D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:58:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: hits Marianne Rizzo said: > kind of off the subject . . . > > > I can't believe Chinese Cafe wasn't a hit. . I'll never live this down. . > > (oh and many of her others too. . .) > > > Chinese cafe. . my goodness, WHAT A SONG. Most of the hardcore would agree it is the best song on the cd. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:08:45 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: hits, Chinese Cafe in particular **Most of the hardcore would agree it is the best song on the cd. True, but at 5:17 (the longest track on the record) it is hardly a candidate for a hit. Joni at the piano is hard to beat! Bob, big WTRF fan NP: Sam Cooke, "Smoke Rings" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:52:42 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Re: hits, Chinese Cafe in particular Bob wrote: > True, but at 5:17 (the longest track on the record) it is > hardly a candidate for a hit. > > Joni at the piano is hard to beat! Very true! I mentioned the Covers project to my sister recently, and she suggested that the most covered song would be Chinese Cafe (I wish)! But she was confusing Joni's song with Unchained Melody, which she didn't realise Joni had sampled, not written. WTRF also happens to be the only Joni album she owns apart from Blue, which might have influenced her decision! I did think it was nice that she thought it "could" be the most covered song, though! Hell - whose first ever Joni album was WTRF (purchased back in 1983), which definitely makes it a sentimental favourite... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #12 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)