From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #5 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 6 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 005 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Miles Electric: A Different Kind Of Blue (SJC) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Update ["Sherelle Smith" ] strings (njc) ["Anne Sandstrom" ] Re: strings NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: strings NJC [mags h ] RE: strings NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: strings NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: joni symposium, cbc tv [Randy Remote ] "The River" - Rachael Yamagata at Target ~Cheap~ [est86mlm@ameritech.net] joni dream ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Scarlet ["Sherelle Smith" ] Add on to Scarlet ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Scarlet [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] More updates [Michael Paz ] Crowe's River NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] speaking of shawn NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:20:17 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Miles Electric: A Different Kind Of Blue (SJC) This new DVD looks interesting - anybody seen it yet? http://www.eaglevisionusa.com/ecards/MilesDavis/index.htm Miles Electric: A Different Kind Of Blue > a documentary about a milestone performance > of the legendary jazz icon, Miles Davis. Premiered > at this year's 42nd New York Film Festival, this > special feature documents the 1970 Isle of Wight > Festival performance by Davis, which was the > culmination of a remarkable journey. > Featured are interviews of musicians who were a > part of this amazing transitional moment in > American music, including Chick Corea, Herbie > Hancock, and Keith Jarrett, in addition to those > who were profoundly affected by his innovations - > Carlos Santana and Joni Mitchell, among others. > When Davis released Bitches Brew in 1970, he > opened up a new angle to jazz. Some critics > accused Davis of selling out, while consumers > kept his album on the top of the charts. To date, > Bitches Brew is one of the best selling jazz > albums of all time. Miles Electric: A Different > Kind Of Blue examines the next step in the process > -- performing live. > Miles performed before 600,000 screaming rock > fans at the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival. It was the > culmination of a remarkable journey. A giant of > jazz, Davis by the late Sixties started to look in > new musical directions; challenged by what he > heard in the streets and on the radio- and > especially by Jimi Hendrix's music- he began to > add electric pianos and guitars to his ensembles, > incorporating rock and funk rhythms with jazz > improvisations. This fusion resulted in > masterworks such as In a Silent Way and Bitches > Brew; it also resulted in controversy every bit as > fierce as Dylan going electric, as musicians, > critics, and fans argued over the future of jazz. > Directed by award winning producer Murray Lerner, > Miles Electric sits down with several of the > performers who played with Miles, interspersed > with footage from the concert. Lerner has > brilliantly captured this amazing transitional > moment in American music, adding contemporary > reminiscences by musicians who were at Davis' side > (Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Keith Jarrett, Dave > Holland, Gary Bartz, etc.) as well as others > profoundly affected by his innovations (Carlos > Santana and Joni Mitchell). best to all PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:55:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: joni symposium, cbc TV Hi Jerry You can download FREE a windows Media Player for the mac at this website. I started watching the programme last night. Very educative and funny and inspirational! http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=windowsmedia Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm the guy who organized the symposium at McGill; > the entire thing (including > > Greg Tate's 'How Black is JM?') is viewable at > > > http://www.mcgill.ca/music/events/jmitchell_symposium/ > > > > We're planning to publish the proceedings in a > scholarly pop music journal. > > > > The 'Educating Joni' documentary will be aired > again on CBC's main channel; > > but > > they haven't announced the schedule yet. > > > > Cheers, > > Chip Whitesell > > > Is there any way for Mac folks to view it? Mac > doesn't recognize mms. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:03:49 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Update My dear friend Paz, Not only will I pray for you, I will send it on the "hotline express"! I want this for you because it is your heart's desire. I believe in my heart it will happen Paz...I really do. Please keep us posted. Love, Sherelle Paz wrote: Hi Everybody- It was a rough day today trying to balance my job and keep up with IHC. I got another call today from Sen. Mary Landrieu's assistant telling me she was about to board a plane for Sri Lanka with another US Senator. I asked that she try to identify charitable foundations in country and try to gauge the work they are doing to try and find other partners for relief in country so that we can set up long term support. He told me that she would be calling me to consult me regarding our plans very shortly. He also told me I could be invited to Washington very soon to attend some meetings regarding this effort. I am very excited about all this and pray that God finds a way for me un plug from my current job and to do work full time healing children and working for charity. I know that I could do a great job at it if I could dedicate my whole life to it. Pray for me to get my wish. Thanks to everyone who has written to me again and continue and special thanks to Bob Muller, Jody and Scott Johnson, and Alice Sebrell for you very kind and generous donations to IHC. I will do my best to see that the money is used in the best way possible to help tsunami survivors, esp. children. More later. Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:13:25 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: strings (njc) Actually, this has a tiny bit of JC... Mags, you asked about strings. Well, here goes... For many, many years, I've sworn by silk & steel strings. I use light guage. (although when I was playing out a lot, I'd switch to medium guage a week before a big gig, practice like crazy with those, then switch to light guage the day before the gig. Made playing seem easier.) There are bronze strings - way too metallic sounding for me. Plus, I found that in switching tunings frequently, the silk & steel strings were much better behaved, especially in the lower registers. I'm not terribly fussy about brands. (Although I do recall strings that were made locally, on Cape Cod, years ago - best strings I ever encountered! No longer made, of course...) I always found it best to have extra high E and B strings around, since those break easily. Oh, and for some reason, the G string (no smirking here...) tends to break more easily when you do lots of Joni's tunings. Now, as for HOW to put the strings on, that's a matter of great debate. Some swear you should never take all the strings off your guitar at once. Others say you can do half and half (my preference - top 3, then bottom 3). Others prefer to only change one string at a time. The debate is over the change in tension on the neck. I found that my two Alvarez Yairi guitars (one of which I sold a few years ago) always behaved extremely well. I know there are lots of Martin fans in the house (hi ChuckE!), but I seemed to have problems with them holding a tuning well. I never thought the necks behaved well. The best way to keep an instrument in tune is to play it! (My poor guitar is sitting in a corner, neglected... oh well.) Oh, and since I'm offering opinions, I'll add my voice about tuners. The absolute BEST way to tune (for me) is to simply use a 440 A tuning fork to get that string right. After that, I use harmonics to get the rest of the guitar in tune. I hope this helps. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:50:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: strings NJC Does anyone remember D'Angellico strings? I used them on my guitar during my most earnest Joni playing years. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:43:38 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Re: strings NJC i am using some christmas money to go and buy a set of elixirs. looking forward to that. plan to find a teacher for a few lessons, for trade. another issue, trying to upgrade my Adobe and I cant seem to do it. Anyone willing to give me a call and walk me through this? I want to type for Les, and cant without this...cant read the PDF files for the Joni library. barg. anyway.... thanks so much to everyone for your suggestions and care, love, Mags Jerry Notaro wrote: Does anyone remember D'Angellico strings? I used them on my guitar during my most earnest Joni playing years. Jerry imagine you're a girl, with ten mile stilts wailin' jennys 40 days Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:52:50 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: strings NJC Meant to send to list & not just Jerry. - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Flynn [mailto:rflynn@frontiernet.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:51 AM To: 'Jerry Notaro' Subject: RE: strings NJC I remember them and it looks like they still make them (in the silk & steel variety, too!) http://www.juststrings.com/dangelicoacousticguitar.html - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Notaro Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:50 AM To: mags h; Joni List Subject: Re: strings NJC Does anyone remember D'Angellico strings? I used them on my guitar during my most earnest Joni playing years. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:52:56 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: strings NJC Jerry Notaro wrote: > Does anyone remember D'Angellico strings? I used them on my guitar during my > most earnest Joni playing years. "Master luthier John DAngelico is universally regarded as the finest archtop guitar builder that ever lived." The full story is on their website: http://www.dangelicoguitars.com They still make the strings, as well as a new generation of guitars used by Warren Haynes, Stephen Stills, and others. Mr. DAngelico was mentor to the other great archtop luthier, Jimmy D'Aquisto. As long as we're talking nostalgia, how about Black Diamond strings? (my first). RR my strings: acoustic: Martin Marquis light gauge (for +/- 30 years) electric: Ernie Ball Super Slinky (25 years) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:58:10 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: joni symposium, cbc tv Hi Chip- Congrats on your symposium, thanks for chiming in-have you posted before? Do you know whether the "Educating Joni" doc will air on US channels? lloyd.whitesell@staff.mcgill.ca wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm the guy who organized the symposium at McGill; the entire thing (including > Greg Tate's 'How Black is JM?') is viewable at > http://www.mcgill.ca/music/events/jmitchell_symposium/ > > We're planning to publish the proceedings in a scholarly pop music journal. > > The 'Educating Joni' documentary will be aired again on CBC's main channel; but > they haven't announced the schedule yet. > > Cheers, > Chip Whitesell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:49:02 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: "The River" - Rachael Yamagata at Target ~Cheap~ FYI: Target has a CD called "Sounds of the Season The NBC Collection" and on it is Joni's River (called "The River" on this CD) by Rachael Yamagata. The funny thing is I didn't even realize it was on here until I was playing it this morning. I heard Clay Aiken on TV a month ago singing the song "Mary Did You Know" and really liked it and just happen to notice it was on this CD when I picked it off the shelf. I was so excited! The fun part..........these CD's are on Clearance at Target for approx $1.50 (75% off regular price) they're moving them out with the x-mas stuff..........that's where I found my copy yesterday afternoon......with the leftover x-mas stuff. It scans 75% off of the marked regular price. This CD has a red cover with a gold ornament on the front of it. There's also some contemporary sounding seasonal songs by Harry connick Jr and Alicia Keys. Really a nice sounding CD........even if your not into Holiday music (like me!). Before this my favorite Holiday CD was The Jingle Cats! Don't listen to Jingle Cats while your driving tho......you could drive off the road laughing! * The Happy Elf - Harry Connick Jr. * Little Drummer Girl - Alicia Keys * Mary Did You Know - Clay Aiken * Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas - Gavin DeGraw * Comin' for X-Mas? - Usher * Oh Holy Night - Kelly Clarkson * Santa Claus is Back in Town - Richard Marx * The River - Rachael Yamagata * Jolly Old St. Nicholas - Chicago * Christmas Day - Dido * My Favorite Things - Peter Cincotti * O Come All Ye Faithful - Jeremy Camp Laura ************************************************************ GRAB A FREEBIE! Free Car Air Freshner From Gain (while supplies last) http://www.gainlaundry.com Free Diana Krall CD Scroll down the page and click on Win A Trip To See Diana Krall Live! http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/ The first 5,000 people to enter get a CD sampler. Hurry! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:30:48 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni dream Last night I had a dream about Joni. . This is one post, Joni, that I'd rather you not read. Well first, She was in town and she was staying with me and Bree. She was out late and 4:49 am I was just getting up to go to school (work) about my usual time. . and joni was just getting in. . Bree greets her at the door and says to joni, "how about a nightcap?" (real chipper) The somewhat emabarassing part: Joni takes a bath and Bree and I are talking about ways to save her bath water. (Not that I would think of doing something like that!) : -) LOve Marianne _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:22:46 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Scarlet Hi everyone, I need you to listen to this version of Joni's "Shades of Scarlet Conquering" and tell me what you think. I'm not sure what I think. This person is very popular in Hawaii and has a beautiful contralto voice. I think I actually saw her perform when I was there in 1996 visiting my brother. My ex-sister in law is a big fan of hers as are many people in Hawaii. Please give your honest feedback. Love, Sherelle http://www.musefx.com/catalog_cd_music1.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:25:49 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Add on to Scarlet The song is on clip 6. Sorry! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:57:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Scarlet **I need you to listen to this version of Joni's "Shades of Scarlet Conquering" and tell me what you think. Sherrelle - I for one love this track. Matter of fact I put it on my "Sweet Sixteen Volume 3" last year. Azure McCall also does "Be Cool" on this CD (The Gift) and she did "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" on an earlier release. So like you, the lady loves her Joni JAZZED. I'm nutty about the gritty contralto quality of her vocal, she's more concerned with capturing the feeling of the lyric and melodic mood than nailing every note. Great stuff; I mean, she's no Sherrelle Smith but she'll do in a pinch. Bob NP: Joni, "Night Ride Home" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:56:06 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: More updates Hi all Again many thanks for all the emails that I am responding to in this matter because of time. Also special thanks to JMDL'ers Maggie McNally, David Lahm, and Patty Parlette for your generosity and thoughtfulness towards IHC our combined effort. I made some great strides today finally hooking up with my old friend who lived in Jakarta for so long. He is headed there on Monday and has agreed to help us in our quest. His work is in Social services already so it won't be a big stretch for him. I now have to worker bees out there helping us identify future partners to heal and rebuild nations one little bit at a time. I welcome any advice and/or recommendations for contacts of folks living or working in the countries affected. We are having an IHC meeting on Tuesday and it should be a whopper. It's where I do my least good work. I am not the board room type. I like intelligent discussion, planning, and then execution of the plan. It does not always work that way so I am hoping for a miracle that we are all on the same POSITIVE page for a change. I think we will. Muller I really am enjoying the current release of Covers and thanks to Jerry Notaro for the huge laugh he gave me this evening in the form of JPG. Be well all. Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:13:35 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Crowe's River NJC http://www.allisoncrowe.com/River.mp3 With time to relax and read this holiday season, I'm happy to learn that folks are enjoying Allison Crowe's cover of River this winter. Naturally, as a young singer-songwriter, Blue is a musical touchstone well-loved by Allison (with whom I have the joy and honour to work). We're both delighted that Joni fans are taking this new version of River to heart. I got the Crowe CD and am enjoying it a lot. It has several "non-Christmas" songs including "In My Life" (Beatles). Her voice is probably one in a million. I'll come out of the closet right here as a recently inducted collector of Christmas music. There's some good stuff out there and hundreds (thousands?) of obscure titles (I won't buy them all but I'll try). Bryan Now Playing: Clear Horizon, the Best of Basia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:04:23 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: speaking of shawn NJC 12/25/04 Singer Shawn Colvin uses celebrity to fight depression By Mark Voger Gannett News Service With her hit records, three Grammy wins and knack for pleasing audiences, Shawn Colvin had a lot to celebrate. But sometimes the singer-songwriter would be so depressed, the happy occasions in her life wouldn't make a dent. "There comes a time in a severe depression when nothing makes you feel better, and that is very tough," says Colvin, who recently appeared on Oprah talking about her condition. Now, she is urging those suffering from depression to recognize symptoms and seek help. Says Colvin: "I'm just trying to get people, if they suspect that they're depressed, to talk to somebody about it and understand that it's treatable. They're allowed to feel better." Colvin hopes to accomplish this through a national education campaign titled "Beyond the Music: Shawn Colvin Speaks Out About Depression" sponsored by GlaxoSmithKline, manufacturers of Wellbutrin XL, the medication Colvin now takes. The South Dakota native, 48, whose career breakthrough was her 1997 hit "Sunny Came Home," spoke via telephone. Question: Was it tough to "come out" about your struggle with major depressive disorder? Certainly, once you do something like this, there's no turning back. Answer: (Laughs) You know, it wasn't tough at all. It's such a big part of my life. You know, I have the luxury of being, I dunno, appreciated for some talent that I have. It makes it easier, in a way, to go, "Look. I've got this problem." Because I truly feel compassion for anybody who has to suffer with this. It takes a while, when you suffer from depression, to really get it that it's an illness. It's not a moral failing or something you ought to be able to snap yourself out of. It's a chemical problem. Q: It sounds like one of your goals is to de-stigmatize it. A: That's my goal, yeah, to de-stigmatize it and just raise awareness about it, which de-stigmatizes it. Q: In your case, when did you realize that it was time to get help? Were you able to see that with clarity, or did the realization happen over time? A: It's difficult to see with clarity when you're in the midst of it. I've got enough experience with it now that I understand it much better. The first time I was seriously affected, I was about 19. It was sadness to the point of really not being able to function. My parents had to step in. I saw a doctor and got medication. And it worked. It was antidepressant medication. They have better ones now, but they did have some then. It just got me out of the depression. It was like night and day. So if I ever needed proof that I suffered from depression (laughs), that certainly was it. But it still took me a while to accept that I had this condition. By the time I was in real trouble again, which was when my first record came out, they had newer medications that worked better and had less side effects. So I've been taking medicine ever since then. Q: Did you ever have a time when you felt better thanks to your meds and then told yourself that you could give them up? A: You do get to feeling really good and thinking, "Well, I must be OK now." I guess that's testament to how well medication can work. You just feel like yourself. But there are different types of depression. There are people who don't suffer chronically. They just have an episode or two. For me, yeah, it's a chronic thing. Q: What were the symptoms with you? Were there suicidal thoughts? If so, did this happen regularly or over time? A: It happened over time. I've kind of suffered from varying types of depression. I've been very, very anxious, which you wouldn't initially think of as a depressive state. But for me, that's a big part of it. I mean debilitatingly anxious -- anxiety attacks, obsession with "doomy" thoughts. And then I've had the very typical depressive symptoms, too: lack of interest in things; very sad; yes, suicidal, absolutely; unable to sleep; just very hopeless. Q: All the while, your career was going strong. Was your depression something you had to hide from managers, record company people, fellow musicians? A: Um, I guess so, yes. I mean, it wasn't as literal a thought to me as: "I'm depressed. I need to hide it." But it was so far-reaching with me. It had been such a part of my life for so long that it was almost ingrained in me to hide it. I drank to hide it. I had a lot of little rituals of things I wouldn't do, places I wouldn't go, because I had phobias and claustrophobia. I had all sort of ways of hiding it. So, yes. Q: Of course, love from an audience is great medicine. Is that something you could count on for a little bit of joy in your life? A: Sure. Approval from an audience was definitely reassuring. But I think it was the playing of music itself that was sort of insulating. It's healing. I was very lucky, actually, to be able to do that. Q: It sounds like the very first step in dealing with depression is to just talk. A: It is. It's to get out of the denial or the shame of it. And you know, I have to say that to this day, I still fight it. I don't want to be a depressed person. But I've had enough experience with it that I still clearly see the difference between when I'm in the throes of an episode and I've been medicated out of it. It's honestly like night and day. I just can't stress strongly enough what a difference proper treatment can make in people's lives. They don't have to feel crippled. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #5 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)