From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #513 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, January 1 2005 Volume 2004 : Number 513 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- scary scary sp_m njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] re: animals who paint and sign njc [mags h ] Re: NJC, Andrews Sisters, Eight to the Bar, Shaboo Inn [Smurfycopy@aol.c] RE: tsunami warning system, etc. njc ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Henry Cosby/Sylvia Moy/Stevie Wonder njc [Gary Zack ] Shawn Colvin [Emiliano ] Re: scary scary sp_m njc ["ron" ] Re: scary scary sp_m njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: new cover: All I Want... in spanish [Emiliano ] Re: Shawn Colvin [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: new cover: All I Want... in spanish [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Dreamland review with good Joni photo [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Shawn Colvin now toilets and other home handiwork and now njc [Cather] Happy New Year [Catherine McKay ] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] i think it's amazon njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: scary scary sp_m njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] tsunami NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] tsunami experience NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: tsunami experience NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Shawn Colvin now toilets and other home handiwork and now njc [SCJoni] priorities NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Blue [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: priorities NJC [Catherine McKay ] away from e-mail (njc) [Dflahm@aol.com] RE: priorities NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Did animals sense Tsunami, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: a new jenny on the prairie landscape njc [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 05:11:48 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: scary scary sp_m njc i just received a very scary piece of sp_m. what terrifies me is that it is reasonably well written and it contains my FULL NAME and FULL ADDRESS, including my very complicated argentine zip code. how can they know so much about me, especially when the message seemingly comes from south africa? it's made me quite paranoid. i'm copying it below. perhaps some of the jmdler internet wizards can advise on what to do or how to tell it is a hoax. needless to say, i have no idea of what they're talking about. i have deleted all the private information to avoid making matters worse by sending this thing out to every continent on earth and then getting 5,000,000 of these every day. has anyone on the list received anything like this? thanks, wally Letter to (MY FULL NAME HERE) Address: (FULL ADDRESS AS ONLY FRIENDS KNOW IT) From the desk of Jessica Khumalo Joburg Bright water Foundation. No 547 Krius drive,North Gate Johannesburg , Re: Contact Mr. Charles Morgan immediately ! My name is Jessicca Khumalo , from Bright water foundation Johannesburg. After a successful completion of the third category Draws of Bright waters promotion program, we are pleased to inform you of The official announcement today that you have emerged one of the winners of the Bright waters promotions program. Names were drawn from database of contact names from countries of interest. It was not easy contacting individuals in your country due to the cumbersome nature of the program hence names of contact persons representing companies in concerned countries were entered automatically. We have also tried to reach you on phone but probably due to time difference we could not get hold of you. Your attached ticket, number !! (A SERIES OF NUMBERS HERE) !! emerged the winning ticket and consequently won in the Third category. You have therefore been awarded a lump Sum pay out of USD1M in cash, which is the Winning payout for third category winners. Your prize award certificate has been dispatched to your claims executive and your funds have been deposited in a bank insured in your name. Below are the details of your claims executive: MR Charles Morgan Accumen Consulting 455 West 12th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 1V9 TEL: 1 604 783 4817 FAX: 1 604 357 1270 Toll free: 1 800 501 6861 Please contact him immediately with the following information about you for processing of the payment. Full name, Mailing address, mobile phone number, Functioning, fax number, email address (s) if you have more than one.Time to contact you and most convenient way to contact you whether phone ,fax or email Fax this code processing (A HUGE SERIES OF NUMBERS AND SYMBOLS HERE) **DO NOT REPLY THIS EMAIL** You must fax him the above stated information to + 1 604 357 1270 , after sending him a fax please contact him on his satellite phone 1 604 783 4817 for further instruction. Emails regarding this promotion program from yahoo, hotmail,eudora,mail,earthlink,lycos,/COUNTRIES/.COM, southafrica.com,ananzi.co.za etc should not be responded to as this program has come to the public notice and unauthorized individuals may contact you. All contacts must henceforth originate from Mr Charles Morgan via Accumen consultancy website. Take note that as soon as you send your profile to Mr Charles Morgan, the winning processing starts and you will Shall be contacted within 24 hours. Winnings that are not claimed before the 30th of January shall be regarded as unclaimed winning . In the next batch of this program you shall be guided on ways to purchase tickets as this batch is merely a promotion program to create awareness about the new lottery foundation.The Bright Waters. Congratulations on your winning. Contact your Claims Executive now. ONCE AGAIN, DO NOT REPLY THIS EMAIL, CONTACT MR CHARLES MORGAN AT THE ABOVE STATED CONTACT CORDINATES. PROVIDE HIM WITH ADEQUATE INFORMATION TO RE-ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH YOU. Thanks, ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 04:04:52 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: re: animals who paint and sign njc hey Julius, I enjoyed the article you sent about the animals learning how to sign, paint etc. Odd, isnt it, that we may become mesmerized by the "intelligence" of animals just because they can perform "human" tasks. Anyone who "knows" and loves animals, "knows" that animals are far more intelligent than that. Just because they speak a language that we humans can not understand, means nothing in the scheme of things. I've become great friends with a couple of canines , three cats and a guinea pig here in the Peg. No doubt in my mind, they are highly sensitive, intelligent beings. They love unconditionally, with a faith and devotion speaks loud and clear, to me. an aside, to Catherine. The link you sent is .......... okay, can't come up with the words. thank you for sending it. i found it most .............. well, it's made my heart ache more, and has moved me to do a lot of thinking about how i walk upon this earth. the information circling the list has been most helpful in gaining some sort of understanding in the face of not knowing how to deal. i've contacted the red cross to do some active volunteer work, we shall see how this transpires. Every little bit helps. enough. about to partake in a winter hike to spend a little time with aforementioned critters. Mags np: the sound the overnight crew trying to clean up the howling hallowed hallways of Winterpeg - -car? car? what car? oh you mean that huge lump of white out in the back lane... i dare not complain about the weather, that said, it's a rough one out there. imagine you're a girl, with ten mile stilts wailin' jennys 40 days Meet the all-new My Yahoo!  Try it today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:10:03 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC, Andrews Sisters, Eight to the Bar, Shaboo Inn Patti writes: << And Kate B., did you know that Jeff Pevar used to play with ETTB? >> Yeah, she knows, Patti. I told her a couple of years ago. Jeff is a really sweet guy. I am very happy for him and his success. << So, the Andrews Sisters lead me to ETTB which leads me back to the Shaboo Inn. >> This really is amazing, Patti, and we'll need to take it off list. But I want to say that one of the Lyon sisters you mentioned -- the one who married the band manager -- was best friends with an old girlfriend of mine who died in 1990. I saw ETTB many times. The sister who was my girlfriend's best friend used to stay with us when the band performed in Boston. And my friend, who was a tremendous blues singer, used to sit in with them. I often found myself in the midst of one of their getting-dressed sessions, when the girls would transform themselves from modern women to 40s babes! The sister I knew and I went to Antiqua together in 1989. (To be continued off list ... ) The list just really amazes me sometimes! - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:07:30 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: tsunami warning system, etc. njc >>It's just another reminder (albeit a horrifying and incredibly sad one) that we're totally at the mercy of nature...<< We are always, and will always be, at the mercy of Mother Nature. It is a good job that nature is more often merciful than she is vengeful. Lord knows she's got reasons to take it out on the human race. mike in barcelona np NP Michelle Shocked - short sharp shocked ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:19:36 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: visiting Ruth, njc >Hey Ruth, I think you're only about two hours south of me ... I'm coming to >visit you! ; ) >Happy New Year! >Lori I want to come too. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:51:27 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Henry Cosby/Sylvia Moy/Stevie Wonder njc Regarding "Sanford and Son," Aunt Esther was always my favorite character on that show as well. Some of you may know that she has a number of comedy albums out under her real (?) name which is LaWanda Page. They are quite hilarious, but on the vulgar side. Her jokes would certainly not suit everyone's taste, but some are hysterical if you don't mind the definite sexual content of most of them, and the free use of curse words and vulgar language!! Best regards, Gary SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >I can't confirm or deny that songwriting credit, but he DID write the theme >song to 'Sanford & Son', one of my fave sitcoms and one of my fave theme >songs as well, performed by Quincy Jones. Was there anything funnier than the >exchanges between Fred & Aunt Esther? Redd Foxx was awesome, he could make even >the weak scripts he was handed sometimes come off in hilarious fashion. > >Speaking of Cos, he introduces Joni & crew when she played the Playboy Jazz >Festival in 1979...it always comes back to Joni, right? > >Bob > >NP: Elton John, "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:35:18 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: new cover: All I Want... in spanish Hi, Bob! I've just read this in El Pais, so I didn't hear it already. "The cuban Ela joins salsa, pop and half-breed (mestizaje) in the album: "'Abreme la Puerta" (Open the Door to me) Ela (Gisela Ruiz Gonza'lez, La Habana, 1978) makes her debut these days in Spain as soloist [...]. Also resounds the echo of one of the sigers most admired by Ela, the great Joni Mitchell, from who the cuban siger plays in castilian the classic All I Want." Well, I won't go away to day to get it (nobody could force me to leave my house this afternoon... except for going to the newstand next corner to get a DVD from Marvin Gaye, but it's only some metres away), and I don't know if the album it's still in the streets, but I'll try to get it next year (he he) so I can send it to the cover king. Maybe I'll do search in the wwweb for its record company, Salad (this is, indeed) the first album by this new record company, owned by the much known here Alejo Stivel. Hey, I just can't wait to hear it. I take the chance to wish you Happy New Year! (and my eternal gratitude for all the kind words I've recived from wonderful people in this list) Have a Warm winter! Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:53:27 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Shawn Colvin Hi, dears! I must confess I heard of Shawn Colvin in the first place reading the biographical pages in www.jonimitchell.com (www.jonimitchell.com/Roots.html) with the story about recording Shawn's album Fat City in The Kiva, that studio... and, of course, that liner note "To Joni Mitchell - me wimp, you master." The fact is, I've just heard the recording from Shawn's concert in The Warfield Theater, San Francisco in November 29 1994. At the encore she sings a long rendition of her Polaroids, in wich she adds some lines from Just My Imagination, My Girl, Like A Rolling Stone... and these following lines: "Once in a while In a big blue moon There comes a night like this Like some surrealist Invented this 4th of july Night Ride Home" (Roars of enthusiasm by the audience, of course) Well, we've got her covers of River, Conversation, Urge For Going & Free Man In Paris in the Covers volumes (numbers 13, 19 -2 songs- and 24: Many Thanks, Bob!), as long as the versions of Amelia, Chelsea Morning & Big Yellow Taxi from the TNT All-Star Tribute, but this is new to me (although it's only a bit, alas!) Kisses and Twelve Grapes to everyone! Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:02:47 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: scary scary sp_m njc hi wally "how can they know so much about me, especially when the message seemingly comes from south africa? it's made me quite paranoid." i promise you it wasnt me!!!!! anyhow - tha address is fake (big surprise there!!!) - no Krius drive in Jo Burg ( tho there are a couple of Kruis Streets in the center of town - far, far away from northgate - which incidentally is a shopping center not an area!!!) no brightwater foundation in the phone book either - there is a brightwater commons - again - a shopping center!! anyhow - it is of course a scam - see this link: http://www.419legal.org/pipermail/scamletters_419legal.org/20041026/003525.html & how it works: http://www.419legal.org/pages.php?p=11 they probably got your details from a trojan in a friends email address book ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:55:56 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: scary scary sp_m njc In a message dated 12/31/2004 11:05:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, flopit@telkomsa.net writes regarding Wally's problem: > they probably got your details from a trojan I'm not going to touch that line :~) Happy New Year Everyone! xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:14:14 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: new cover: All I Want... in spanish Hi! I've just discovered... Ela's official page is http://www.elaruiz.com/, and, according to the very little tiny bit from All I Want, it seems she sings it in English (at least its beginning, that's it) yours, truly: Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:53:57 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: scary scary sp_m njc Ron writes: << they probably got your details from a trojan in a friends email address book >> Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwww. Wally, that's gross! - --Smurf, wishing Wally a very happy birthday, Day V. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:01:15 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: a new jenny on the prairie landscape njc For all you Wailin' Jenny fans, there's a new Jenny on the prairie landscape. Cara Luft has left the group, and the remaining Jennys put out a call for a new member, and they find one they did! Annabelle Chvostek .... here's the link to their website, plus info about Annabelle. http://www.thewailinjennys.com/ http://www.annabelle.org Mags, who broke her very first guitar string today LOL!!! Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:05:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin **but this is new to me (although it's only a bit, alas!)** Hi Emiliano, and Happy New Year to you & all my brothers and sisters across the pond! I have heard this one, have it in fact, labeled as "Polaroids Medley" in which she sings the snippet of NRH, not enough to include it in a compilation or add it to the database. Perhaps she'll give us a full version some day. On the other hand, the new "All I Want" is a new one and will go into the database right now. Thanks for catching it for me, it really made my day as I've spent the past couple hours trying to replace a flush valve in the upstairs toilet and now resigning myself to call the plumber to stop the drip-drip-drip. Damn, I hate toilets - of course they are nice to have around. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:14:39 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: new cover: All I Want... in spanish Emiliano, How could YOU of all people miss it??? There are two covers of it on the CD, one that she sings in English titled "All I Want" and one in Spanish titled ""Todo Que Lo Quiero". The sound snippets are just teasers, it has an interesting techno sound to it - I can't wait to hear the whole thing(s)! This is very similar to the recent Argentinian release of Amelia by Roxana Amed...she offers up 2 versions, in Spanish & in English. A very sweet trend! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:21:13 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Dreamland review with good Joni photo In this Australian publication: http://www.smh.com.au/news/CD-reviews/Joni-Mitchell-Dreamland-Neil-Young-Greatest-Hits/2004/12/31/1104344976538.html?oneclick=true Happy New Year, everyone.....Good riddance, 2004 (not to be pessimistic but that about sums it up). Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:50:45 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin now toilets and other home handiwork and now njc --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > I've spent the past couple hours trying to replace > a flush valve in the upstairs > toilet and now resigning myself to call the plumber > to stop the > drip-drip-drip. Damn, I hate toilets - of course > they are nice to have around. > This must be frustrated home work day, Bob. I'm trying to put up some wall lamps for my daughter. The instructions say to make 3/16" holes in the wall (to screw the lamp base up), which I have done. Then you're supposed to put wall plugs in there and then put the lamp up. First the guy at Canadian Tire (known for good reason, I think, as Crappy Tire) sold me 1/4" wall plugs - too big! Then I went out and got some 3/16" ones and tried putting those in, and they won't go. I dunno if they should just go in nicely, or if you have to screw them in (tried it and it doesn't seem to work), or hammer them in somehow (tried that and ended up bending/wrecking one or two because they're cheap plastic crappy things). This should be easy, but it's not. I am now very frustrated because it's New Year's Eve and the stores will be closed soon and I don't want to go out again and now I'll have to wait a couple of days before things open again. When you put wall plugs in, are they supposed to be the SAME SIZE as the hole, or a size smaller (like maybe 1/8" instead of 3/16"?) Who would know that 1/8" would make such a difference. If I go in there now with a hammer, Sarah's room and mine will just be one big open concept thing... Oh yeah, and there are a couple of dripping taps and things in the house, but I'm not going anywhere near plumbing, esp. in this old house where even trying to tighten something will probably break the pipe. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:25:44 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Happy New Year Some of you are already in next year and some are stuck with me in last year for now. Whatever year you're in, I wish all of you the very best. I do hope 2005 brings more joy than sorrow. Goodness knows, 2004 wasn't exactly a year of joy for so many reasons and has ended on a very tragic note. I'm kind of partial to numbers that are divisible by 5 (or 3), so I have hope for 05, and a good thing too, because we'll be stuck with it for 365 days. Happy new year, everyone. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:55:48 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc happy new year everyone. . . let's have an eparty sometime! LOve and joy come to you. . . Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:00:42 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: i think it's amazon njc ron, thank you for checking up on all that information. funny how i never thought about asking you. the weird thing is that zip codes changed in BA very recently. i think the only place where they have the kind of updated information that appeared on the message is amazon, an establishment i've always trusted. very mysterious indeed. best wishes to you, wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: ron [mailto:flopit@telkomsa.net] > Enviado el: Viernes, 31 de Diciembre de 2004 01:03 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: scary scary sp_m njc > > > hi wally > > > "how can they know so much about me, especially when the message > seemingly > comes from south africa? it's made me quite paranoid." > > > i promise you it wasnt me!!!!! > > anyhow - tha address is fake (big surprise there!!!) - no Krius > drive in Jo > Burg ( tho there are a couple of Kruis Streets in the center of > town - far, > far away from northgate - which incidentally is a shopping center not an > area!!!) > > no brightwater foundation in the phone book either - there is a > brightwater > commons - again - a shopping center!! > > anyhow - it is of course a scam - see this link: > > http://www.419legal.org/pipermail/scamletters_419legal.org/2004102 6/003525.html & how it works: http://www.419legal.org/pages.php?p=11 they probably got your details from a trojan in a friends email address book ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:18:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: scary scary sp_m njc well, at least it shows i haven't succumbed to barebacking yet. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > FMYFL@aol.com > Enviado el: Viernes, 31 de Diciembre de 2004 01:56 p.m. > Para: flopit@telkomsa.net; wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: scary scary sp_m njc > > > In a message dated 12/31/2004 11:05:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > flopit@telkomsa.net writes regarding Wally's problem: > > > they probably got your details from a trojan > > I'm not going to touch that line :~) > > Happy New Year Everyone! > > xoxo > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:43:49 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: tsunami NJC Hi all, been over my head busy with the holidays, work, music, etc. catching up with the digests.. Paz, its wonderful that you do the work you do & I am grateful to know that you are also involved with this tsunami relief effort. I have already donated online to UNICEF (count me among those who was really impressed with their attitude of donate to whatever organization you like as the money all goes to the same place- as a fundraiser that is a pretty remarkable & unique viewpoint. ) but it is so cool to know you are able to take donations from any jmdl members to help out.. Speaking of donations. Before this disaster hit I had decided to donate to a friend of mine who is doing remarkable work in Afghanistan - here is his website if anyone is interested- (http://www.adrpinc.org/index.htm . I did this instead of giving my family Christmas presents (with the exception of the little kids & grandkids of course!). It feels really good to do this kind of giving rather than present buying at this time of year. Far less stressful too! Since my Grandpa was a dentist I think it is a sweet thing that all my family will appreciate. I think I am still in shock about the magnitude of the disaster & how quickly a peaceful day in paradise changed into the most horrifying situation. I was relieved to hear my friend who is sometimes living in Thailand is okay & that my friend's son who was visiting in Indonesia is also okay. His mom was already very nervous that he was going over there for the holidays & when she learned of the disaster it took her all day to reach him & when she finally did he was on another area of the one of the islands that was not affected & can you believe- had not even heard of the tsunami (this is 8 hours after it happened) until his mom told him! He was right there in the middle of it but the word obviously was slow in getting out to them. He was snorkeling at the time of the tsunami like so many others were. I was also relieved to know that my friend who was heading over to Phuket (I think that is how you spell it) for a vacation had not left yet & of course will not be going now. I've been through quite a few earthquakes & many of the ones that are local originate offshore- there was one just a month or so ago offshore but a small one. There is a great website I go to when I feel something that updates earthquakes in our area. http://www.data.scec.org/ . One of the local earthquakes I experienced with a herd of goats I was herding. Goats are funny creatures, they can take off at a whim all together before you know it. They were up on a hillside & I was down below when all of a sudden they came running towards me. Seconds later the hilliside they were on became a dusty, bolder falling area but by then the goats were long gone from the hillside. Seconds after that the solid ground I was standing on started moving like water. I thought I was dizzy for a second then I know it was a quake. So yes, I do agree that animals sense an earthquake before it happens or maybe while it is happening but before we humans know its happening. I just learned that our town once experienced a tsunami in the late 1800s I think it was. When I first moved to this town, I used to have vivid dreams of the ocean rushing up the main boulevard here. I had no idea that had actually happened. A tsunami certainly could happen here again & I am now glad that I moved from living by the ocean to a mountain top. I just read a remarkable story by someone who lives in our town & was visiting Thailand & was almost killed in the tsunami. I will post it in another email as this one is already quite long. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:56:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: tsunami experience NJC Michael Shaheen, former chef at Santa Barbara's Eladio's Restaurant, was swept away by the tsunami that hit Thailand, but he fought his way to survival. Struggling for life under water, Shaheen thought he was dying. After touring China and other places in Asia in recent months, Shaheen was relaxing on an island group near the Phuket beach resort. "I was on Ko Phi Phi and heard yelling," he e-mailed Santa Barbara friends. "I opened the door to my bungalow, which was on 4-foot stilts and about 100 feet off the beach (great view of the ocean), to see a 36-foot wave coming over the bungalow in front of me. "I slammed my door and within a second my bungalow had collapsed on top of me and was being washed away with me trapped underneath it and under water. "It seemed like I was under water for a long time. I drank much dirty salt water, and all I could think is that I was dead. "I kept fighting and fighting and somehow fought through all the wood and cement and trees and debris and water to the top." After "another surge of water, my hand got trapped between a tree and a piece of wood. I had to tear it out somehow and some way was able to get free and fight my way through all of the debris and surges of water to climb up a hillside, then hike along a mountain to the other side of the island, which had been hit by a tsunami also. "I have lost everything I had except the pair of shorts I am wearing. I hooked up with these five Swedish guys that helped me. "I am pretty torn up, cut and bruised from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet, and I have a 6-inch gash on my right palm that is very bad. I am being treated for it at Phuket International Hospital. "I am in a rescue shelter at the Christian Church in Phuket. I have no idea how I survived and am alive today. There were many dead and mutilated bodies all over the island. I did not see one person who was not injured in some way or another. "I am one of the lucky ones, so damn lucky. I do not know what my next step is. I am just grateful to be alive, though I don't know if the Aussie guy I was traveling and rooming with made it. "I am going to try and find him today." Before becoming executive chef at Eladio's, Shaheen spent chef time at top L.A.-area restaurants Spago, Morton's, Cicada and Pinot. After leaving Eladio's about six months ago, he worked at Bacara Resort & Spa before beginning his Asia trip, friends said. http://news.newspress.com/barney/123004beat.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:36:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: tsunami experience NJC --- Kate Bennett wrote: > Michael Shaheen, former chef at Santa Barbara's > Eladio's Restaurant, was > swept away by the tsunami that hit Thailand, but he > fought his way to > survival. [...] > "I have no idea > how I survived and am alive today. There were many > dead and mutilated bodies > all over the island. I did not see one person who > was not injured in some > way or another. > "I am one of the lucky ones, so damn lucky. This is what I find remarkable - that so many people DID survive this. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:04:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin now toilets and other home handiwork and now njc Well Catherine, I'm sorry for your difficulties but at least someone is sharing my pain. I'm usually pretty good with home repair stuff as long as water is not involved - I should have just called the plumber to begin with I suppose. Perhaps tomorrow I'll take down the old ceiling fan that doesn't work anymore and replace it with a light fixture - then I can restore my manly pride! Our house was built in the 20's, so when the repair guys come over they always make some comment like "Wow, I haven't seen this kind of (plumbing/wiring/whatever) in a LONG time. On the upside, the temps were in the low 60's here so I went outside and got in a nice run, using the cool little .mp3 player that Nate got me for Christmas. And yes, it was Joni covers, Volume 21 to be exact. As for the upcoming year, with Bush still (mis)leading us here, I'm sure it will be another year of eye-rolling madness, but at least we all have each other to help pull us through. I just can't believe it's 2005 already... Bob NP: Jellyfish, "Glutton Of Sympathy" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:08:04 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: priorities NJC Originally $15 million now $35 million for tsunami relief $35 to $40 million for the upcoming inauguration celebration. apparently the theme of the inauguration gala is a military ball while the real military is dying in Iraq. Words fail me . embarrassment & disgust are not strong enough ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:02:50 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Blue Interesting discussion here, on one of Joni's finest "paintings". I have lately been categorizing Joni's songs (thinking of compilations by theme, perhaps, in the context of Joni's recent commercial concessions). To those 'theme' categories I might one day like to compile a CD's worth of her "most artistic" songs. Blue will certainly be a part of that compilation. Often I de-construct Joni's lyrics into slightly different forms than those shown on her album covers. This helps me focus on their underlying structure, which I sense Joni is inclined to try to mask - perhaps because they look too mathematical, too symmetrical, less artsy in that form. Here is my 'chiropractic adjustment' to Blue: Blue Songs are like tattoos You know I've been to sea before Crown and anchor me Or let me sail away Hey _Blue_ (http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/entry.cfm?id=3) Here is a song for you Ink on a pin Underneath the skin An empty space to fill in Well there're so many sinking Now you've got to keep thinking You can make it thru these waves Acid, booze, and ass Needles, guns, and grass Lots of laughs lots of laughs........ Everybody's saying That hell's the hippest way to go Well I don't think so But I'm gonna take a look around it though Blue I love you.................. Blue Here is a shell for you Inside you'll hear a sigh A foggy lullaby There is your song from me............... I agree that the opening line is - musically, if not on the page - a one word line. That one word line sets a number of contexts. 1. It is the 'wash' for the whole song. The whole album, really. That's what a painter does, right ? In this case, the wash allows the painting to portray images centered in the sea. 2. It addresses a specific person (who is dubbed by his condition) 3. It emanates plaintively from the singer's soul, and acknowledges the blueness there as well as in the soul of the addressee 4. The depth of the closing musical tone of that line suggest that blue is a dark place, but at the same time a warm place. Not dark and cold, but dark and warm. More the womb than outer space. An impression. This song is, to me, deeply impressionistic. All of the previous postings reflect agreement with that, at least as I read them. Still, the impressions seem to compel scrutiny. Again, the previous postings acknowledge that. Why? Perhaps part of the reason is that there is a disjointedness in the song's structure, even after I re-construct it - unlike many of her other songs. The first example of this lies in the initial analogy - started in the first verse, then completed - after a diversion - in the second verse. "Songs are like tattoos........... Ink on a pin Underneath the skin An empty space to fill in" God, I love that. In between, Joni diverts attention from the analogy to anchor herself at the center of the song. Is it is ever thus with her? Even in Jericho, the 'I' word dominates, even as she vows to sublimate it. You know I've been to sea before Crown and anchor me Or let me sail away What is the sea? Is it the bluest place, or the roughest place, or the least stable place? Or from time to time the most peaceful, solitary place ? Here, the suggestion is that her addressee offers her the roughness, the challenge, the stimulation of the sea, but she has been there, done that. As she travels the sea, it is not solely for the act of travelling. There needs to be a destination, a place of stability - at least temporarily, a place to lay anchor. More quiet times. Like a river flowing. Deep kisses and the tide rolling in. Don't just stimulate me, jerk me around. Give me something to hang onto, or I'll have to move on with my journey, sailing away, traveling, traveling, traveling. Next, we leave the ego, and back to the addressee. "here is a song for you". A message, besides "make up your mind about me", is one of understanding and encouragement - you can do it, we can make it if we try: Well there're so many sinking Now you've got to keep thinking You can make it thru these waves Acid, booze, and ass Needles, guns, and grass Lots of laughs lots of laughs........ Then, she expressed her doubts about whether this effort of hers will work, whether it is worth the risk of the perfect storms, the tsunamis of the heart. Back to the first person again. The prospect of fulfillment in love is the only rationale for this risk, and from it emerges a commitment to try (a la Jericho) and a statement of position and maybe even commitment ? 'Everybody's saying That hell's the hippest way to go Well I don't think so But I'm gonna take a look around it though Blue I love you.................. Finally, she wraps her message (her song) in a seashell, the present from one lover to another wrapped in a package, the song soothing like a lullaby but at the same time sighing with the resignation that seems likely to follow shortly. Still what a beautiful present it is, bound to get under his skin, like a tattoo. Blue Here is a shell for you Inside you'll hear a sigh A foggy lullaby There is your song from me............... If it were simply the lyric, it would be enough. But the connection between the haunting music and the lyric is so intense, so profound, that this song stands among her greatest pieces of art, in my opinion. When she whispers "Inside you'll hear a sigh", and then the 'foggy lullaby' is followed by the piano chords rising in tone, yet diminishing in volume, fading in the fog........... What an exquisite moment ! And, she finishes with the simple flourish of a painter signing her painting. "There is your song from me". No regrets, Coyote. Whoo. Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:51:10 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: priorities NJC --- Kate Bennett wrote: > Originally $15 million now $35 million for tsunami > relief > $35 to $40 million for the upcoming inauguration > celebration. apparently the > theme of the inauguration gala is a military ball > while the real military is > dying in Iraq. > Words fail me . embarrassment & disgust are not > strong enough Canada has already pledged $40-million. (That's maybe $32-million USD.) We have 1/10 the population of the USA. Dubya needs to cough up another $300-million plus to be even. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:02:08 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: away from e-mail (njc) I wish everyone a Happy New Year and pray there will be some good news for us all after the tragedies of the last 365 days. One of the few things I feel I can count on is the humanity and friendship I find on JMDL. I will be in Long Beach, California at the Jazz Education convention next week. I'll be presenting a clinic entitled "Playing Standards: Good Solos Start with Good Chords." It's something I've long wanted to do and I've been beating my brain to plan a 50-minute presentation that will at least begin to enlighten, encourage and equip my listeners. I feel I'm an expert on this topic; my ambition now is to become a RECOGNIZED expert. I'll be reading e-mail again on Tuesday the 11th. LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:29:25 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: priorities NJC Well I did just catch up with the news today that the USA has now pledged $350 million but W is not going to give his traditional new year's press conference because of questions regarding the relief efforts... he is such a despicable self serving coward... I guess I found some words :~} >Canada has already pledged $40-million. (That's maybe $32-million USD.) We have 1/10 the population of the USA. Dubya needs to cough up another $300-million plus to be even.< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:32:11 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Did animals sense Tsunami, njc Hold on a minute. Before the tsunami killed any people, the water level drop on the shore, right? And there were fish flopping around, dying for lack of water, right? Lama Marianne said: >animals have senae beyond anything I think we will ever be able to imagine or conceive of. They should never be under estimated. . . and may they be always considered.> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 02:13:02 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Blue hi >>>>bobsart wrote >>>>What is the sea? Is it the bluest place, or the roughest place, or the least stable place? Or from time to time the most peaceful, solitary place ? Here, the suggestion is that her addressee offers her the roughness, the challenge doesnt the sea have a specific meaning in dream imagery?? if i look at a couple of dream web sites: "To see an ocean in your dream, represents the state of your emotions and feelings. It is indicative of some spiritual refreshment, tranquility and renewal. To dream that you are traveling across the ocean, signifies new found freedom and independence. You are showing great courage." and the significance of waves - from another dream website: " small wave may indicate the surfacing and acknowledgement of minor emotional issues. large wave may represent either the surfacing of large emotions or a surge of power and determination. tidal wave may imply feeling overwhelmed by emotions, allowing them to impact on your life in a destructive manner " does this not perhaps refer to: "well there're so many sinking Now you've got to keep thinking You can make it thru these waves" is joni not perhaps talking about the emotional state that goes with being in love, and the loss of control when the waves get out of control??? ron who often dreams of being on the beach watching tidal waves but has never yet dreamed of wally and trojans .......................................................... ps - happy new year & lots of good music to evertyone!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:40:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: a new jenny on the prairie landscape njc --- mags h wrote: > For all you Wailin' Jenny fans, there's a new Jenny > on the prairie landscape. Cara Luft has left the > group, and the remaining Jennys put out a call for a > new member, and they find one they did! Annabelle > Chvostek .... > > here's the link to their website, plus info about > Annabelle. > > http://www.thewailinjennys.com/ > > http://www.annabelle.org I just got my Hugh's Room e-mail today and guess what? they're coming in Feb. Wanna go? So is Cheryl Wheeler, the next night (ahoy, Ashara!) > Mags, who broke her very first guitar string today > LOL!!! Welcome to the extreme sport of guitar playing. You never know when those suckers are gonna break and it's pretty scary when they do - I always jump! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin now toilets and other home handiwork and now njc --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Well Catherine, I'm sorry for your difficulties but > at least someone is > sharing my pain. I'm usually pretty good with home > repair stuff as long as water > is not involved - I should have just called the > plumber to begin with I > suppose. Perhaps tomorrow I'll take down the old > ceiling fan that doesn't work > anymore and replace it with a light fixture - then > I can restore my manly pride! Well, as my later post reveals, I managed to get that one done, but there are two others just like it that need putting on. They will be a breeze after the first one. All that trouble for a stinkin' $10 light fixture but it does look kind cute now that it's there. My daughter has this thing about lights and lamps and I will be monitoring the hydro bill (these things use 25 watt lightbulbs, but there are a bunch of 'em!) I don't try to do anything that involves climbing on ladders, so I would never attempt a ceiling fan or fixture. Even changing a lightbulb in a ceiling fixture gives me vertigo. I pride myself on having replaced my front doorbell recently though. I won't touch anything related to plumbing, or anything that involves cutting glass. I know my limits. > Our house was built in the 20's, so when the repair > guys come over they > always make some comment like "Wow, I haven't seen > this kind of > (plumbing/wiring/whatever) in a LONG time. Well, the good news is, they've seen it at all. It gets scary when they say, "I've never seen one o' THESE before!" > On the upside, the temps were in the low 60's here > so I went outside and got > in a nice run, using the cool little .mp3 player > that Nate got me for > Christmas. And yes, it was Joni covers, Volume 21 > to be exact. It's unseasonably WARM here and all the ice and snow we got for Christmas has melted and turned to water, mud and slush. It is awfully damn windy out there though. Now my dog is sick and I have no idea what's wrong with her, but likely she ate something disgusting, which is something dogs are very good at doing, and now she's just lying around looking pathetic and sleeping a lot and making these burbly snory/snorty sounds, and every now and then coughing or gagging like she needs to throw up sounds (but ultimately not throwing up - if she were a cat, I would think hairballs). I hope she's better by tomorrow or I'm going to have to find one of those vets that does emergency work and there goes whatever credit I may have left on the credit cards. As Gilda used to say, there's always something. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Dreamland plug Sydney Morning Herald Fri, 31 Dec 2004 JONI MITCHELL, Dreamland (Nonesuch/Warner) NEIL YOUNG, Greatest Hits (Reprise/Warner) Both of these Canadian giants have had careers of more than 30 years, replete with regular stylistic changes and highlights, although in terms of "hits", most of those happened in the first half of the 1970s. They've also had periods where label managers and large numbers of their fans were at best perplexed, if not turned off altogether, by those changes. Those factors make it almost impossible to compile a collection of songs reflecting that body of work, no matter how good the intentions, particularly when you try for a hits collection rather than a career overview. After all, even semi-serious fans recognise the singles/hits aren't always the best songs in a career. But people will keep trying and people will keep buying, if only to keep "stoking the star-marker machinery behind the popular song", as Mitchell sings here in Free Man in Paris. Advertisement AdvertisementYoung's greatest hits here are, according to the sleeve notes, "based on original record sales, airplay and known download history", which, like an ARIA platinum award, means anything you like, really. The fact is these songs are the best-known Neil Young tunes, the ones you will hear on classic rock radio, and come almost exclusively from 1969-78 with not a single song from the past 13 years. Hard to complain, I guess - that's what's promised in the title, after all - unless you think a good compilation should reflect the depth and range of someone's work for fans and inspire relative novices to explore the rest of the catalogue. Sensibly, Mitchell's collection is not called a greatest hits; crucially, she had a hand in the song selection; thankfully, it is a thoughtful collating of a career. Mitchell doesn't have a problem including the songs likely to be demanded by fans, from the girlish Big Yellow Taxi to The Circle Game, Carey and Help Me. And fabulous they are, too. But here also are more demanding moments from her less commercially successful explorations of rhythm (The Jungle Line, Dreamland and Furry Sings the Blues), her less travelled '80s and early '90s work (Nothing Can Be Done, Come in from the Cold) and the orchestrated, deeper mined reinterpretations she made of her material in recent years (Both Sides Now, Amelia). There's plenty missing, of course, and some may find the non-chronological running order odd but, packaged with reproductions of gorgeous paintings and full lyrics, Dreamland is exactly the kind of product that will send new and old fans off to the source material, to the absolutely essential albums themselves. now me Sounds like a good review. Happy New Year, Joan and all! Here's to a better 2005 for each and every one of us. A hug to each of you. take care, and again, happy new year, brian in south jersey ===== Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #513 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)