From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #489 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, December 11 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 489 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Jerry's Xmas gift NJC ["Steven Polifka" ] Stevie Wonder njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] (NJC) "... rock n' roll finally gasps its last" [lfye@cresapartners.com] Ludwig's Tune, 100% JC :) [] Re: Ludwig's Tune, 100% JC :) [Nuriel Tobias ] Interesting nutritional fact(oid) njc [Brian Gross ] Re: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC [Deb Messling ] Re: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] RE: Joni mentioned in Metro interview ["hell" ] Re: skin crawlers, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Today's Library Links: December 11 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:08:08 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC If you're looking to buy Jerry Notaro the ULTIMATE Christmas gift, check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4059346267&rd=1#ebayphotohosting I think it would be FABULOUS! Maybe for Bob M, too! Steve, Your shopping guide ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:12:50 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Stevie Wonder njc All is Fair in Love I love that. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:35:48 -0500 From: lfye@cresapartners.com Subject: (NJC) "... rock n' roll finally gasps its last" More Mark Morford for the masses ... "Aerosmith Sells You A Buick In which the rock icons waste their finest song, and rock n' roll finally gasps its last" http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/12/10/notes121004.DTL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:08:15 -0500 From: Subject: Ludwig's Tune, 100% JC :) :) Wow, great post. I think the "you" in Ludwig's Tune is the Listener. There aren't many Joni songs where she inserts the listener as obviously as she does there. It doesn't seem like advice to herself so much as advice to Every Listener. She comes very close to just saying, "Hey, be brave, you know," which would have be cloying. There is so much in her songs that it's great to have a "place" to bring all of it into the light. Thanks as always to Les for the bandwidth. More soon, Jim PS, I think Tori Amos' "Pink" is another FTR. It's amazing; it's unflinchingly and almost brutally honest. Em said, >Not only the strength to merely continue to exist, but the strength to write the next symphony > >I'm wondering if the "you" in the song isn't sometimes Joni rather than *just* L. Same as in Amelia its sometimes Joni she refers to and sometimes Amelia. As in "you're too raw, you're too raw". Who's too raw?> >Joni's work has really REALLY affected my life this past year. My pig-self just wishes there were more and more FTR's to get to know. But if Joni had ONLY ever written JOTMAS she would still be a songwriting legend, to my mind.> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:35:11 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Ludwig's Tune, 100% JC :) I agree with Jim, Em. You're post was lovely. All i can add is saying that i think that in Ludwig's Tune, Joni, imho, is also encouraging, or better yet, demanding everyone to play music, even if they never took any "Piano lessons" for no matter what chord we'd strike - It's music to her ears. Nuri jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: :) Wow, great post. I think the "you" in Ludwig's Tune is the Listener. There aren't many Joni songs where she inserts the listener as obviously as she does there. It doesn't seem like advice to herself so much as advice to Every Listener. She comes very close to just saying, "Hey, be brave, you know," which would have be cloying. There is so much in her songs that it's great to have a "place" to bring all of it into the light. Thanks as always to Les for the bandwidth. More soon, Jim PS, I think Tori Amos' "Pink" is another FTR. It's amazing; it's unflinchingly and almost brutally honest. Em said, >Not only the strength to merely continue to exist, but the strength to write the next symphony > >I'm wondering if the "you" in the song isn't sometimes Joni rather than *just* L. Same as in Amelia its sometimes Joni she refers to and sometimes Amelia. As in "you're too raw, you're too raw". Who's too raw?> >Joni's work has really REALLY affected my life this past year. My pig-self just wishes there were more and more FTR's to get to know. But if Joni had ONLY ever written JOTMAS she would still be a songwriting legend, to my mind.> Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Interesting nutritional fact(oid) njc From the "other list" I'm on: (Eleanor McEvoy Followers) > I just ran across this and thought it important for you to know. . > > Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food > groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. With the busy holiday season at hand, it's nice to know there's an easy way to keep the food pyramid as balanced as a jmdler making his or her way to the next stop after the Full Moon performance space closes for the night! Be safe and well, everyone. Brian np: Making Pies, Patty Griffin ===== Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:00:36 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: from Sir Lance, njc >I am not falling into that 'this will never end' space; but, well, maybe a >tad...I just so want someone to share my life with, and start a family >with...Do I 'need' that someone for me to be me, no...But I am soooo at >that >point in my life... Lance, It sounds as tho you are not so much mourning Karen as you are mourning not having a relationship in general. It seems as though if you really loved her you would be mourning your loss of *her. just how it sounds to me. >Subject: Message and Update from Sir Lance.... why do you call yourself "Sir?" Is this a joke? Is this a customary thing where you are from? I am not reading this favorably, please enlighten me. Marianne From: Lance Michel Subject: Message and Update from Sir Lance.... Howdy All... Thank you to you all who have been so kind and loving and sent your positive thoughts and wishes my way...I hope I will have a chance to stay in touch with many of you... Alot of you have written and asked 'how things are going'...? Well, I have been very busy at work the past couple of weeks; so that has been good in some ways (distracting...Though there is no real distraction from this, and maybe there shouldn't be...?), but also kind of tiring... Unfortunately things at work are kinda rough as well, and have been for a few months...I have been covering a higher up position for 7-months now, and my job is refusing to fully acknowledge that, and/or properly compensate me for it...I am very ready to quit; but alas, I need another position first...But that isn't really what this message is about. In general I have been 'alright'...I am just trying to stay active, healthy, exercising more, meditating more; trying to keep things in perspective, but also allow myself to feel what I feel... So, I am up and down a bit...Less drastic then when Karen first left, but still having some trouble maintaining my regular breathing; and feeling kinda raw just under the surface...But I am also feeling fairly strong; it is a very odd combination of emotions. Today was rough though...Work was hard, and then I came home to a message from Karen...A pleasant one, but still no real explanation of anything; and it just really hurt to not have her 'here' anymore...I miss her very much. There is definitely a good part of me that does not want to be treated to the kind of avoidance, non-commuinication, and unresponsive manner in which she often dealt with the relationship; that kind of behaviour is not in my emotional vocabulary, and I think I 'deserve' more from a partner (I hate using that word 'deserve' though)... But then I know the other side of the coin as well; where we would share much love, enjoyment, laughs, confidence and caring for one another... And I miss her prescence, her friendship... So tonight I broke-down and cried again for awhile...I cried and I prayed... I asked the Universe to please please tell me there is someone in this world who has the emotional skills to really be 'in' a relationship, someone who loves me for me and has an eye on the 'long-run'... It is my nature to look at things from all sides (alright there's my Joni content...lol...She and I do share 3/4 of the same planetary natal chart actually...;-) And trying to be as objective as possible...Ah, hell, I think I am over intellectualizing things...The fact of the matter is that I didn't do anything to set off Karen actions...Not to blow my own horn (although I guess if I could do that maybe I wouldn't have a girlfriend to begin with...sorry couldn't resist...), but I really am a good guy...Maybe that's my problem, I don't know...? I mean, I am a very emotionally equipped, good, strong, sensitive, loving man, and much more, and I have alot to share...So, where is my lady...? I'm sorry to have rambled on so much folks...It has been a rough night... I am not falling into that 'this will never end' space; but, well, maybe a tad...I just so want someone to share my life with, and start a family with...Do I 'need' that someone for me to be me, no...But I am soooo at that point in my life... Thank you for letting me vent again y'all...I still feel like cryin', but at least I haven't while I have been writing this... Peas and Love be with you all, and I will speak individually with many of you soon...I hope you all are doing well... Sir Lance _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:38:25 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC Wow, cool. Someone at our local Christmas craft fair was selling purses like these for $80.00. I wanted one made from old tire company Christmas albums, but not for eighty bucks! At 10:08 AM 12/10/2004, you wrote: >If you're looking to buy Jerry Notaro the ULTIMATE Christmas gift, check >this out: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4059346267&rd=1#ebayphotohosting > >I think it would be FABULOUS! > >Maybe for Bob M, too! > >Steve, >Your shopping guide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:01:42 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC Steve, the Man Who Made Milwaukee Fabulous, writes: > If you're looking to buy Jerry Notaro the ULTIMATE Christmas gift, check > this out: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4059346267& > rd=1#ebayphotohosting > Don't know if girlfriend will like it if she doesn't get shoes to match! - --Smurf, envisioning an entire ensemble for Jerry, including one of those vinyl-record hats, like the one Bette Midler wore to the Grammys circa 1974, the year she gave out the Best New Artist award and said something like, "I was the recipient of the Best New Artist Grammy last year. It was presented to me by Cher ... and honey, if that ain't the kiss of death, I don't know what is." (Or something like that. Oh, shit! I'm late for caroling in Pottersville! Bye!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:45:52 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Jerry's Xmas gift NJC one of > those vinyl-record hats, like the one Bette Midler wore to the > Grammys circa 1974, the year she gave out the Best New Artist award > and said something like, "I was > the recipient of the Best New Artist Grammy last year. It was > presented to me by Cher ... and honey, if that ain't the kiss of > death, I don't know what is." I believe it was 'Little Miss Karen Carpenter', not Cher. The Divine Mr. M. in Seatte ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:50:30 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: RE: Joni mentioned in Metro interview Lieve wrote: > Anyway, the interviewee in question was one Adrian Edmondson - a name that > meant nothing to me, but I did recognise the face in the photo. He's > appeared in British comedy programmes such as The Comic Strip and > The Young Ones. And apparently he's married to Jennifer Saunders. He certainly is, and they have three or four kids (all girls). > So voila, I've done my job - can I have a renewal of my membership please? I hereby promote your membership to platinum! Two of my favourite comedians (Adrian and Jennifer) and they're both Joni fans! And somehow I thought Joni would appreciate that kind of humour. Adrian Edmondson is hilarious as Vyvyan, and he's also done some other very funny comedy. Including some of my all-time favourites, like "Five Go Mad In Dorset" and "Five Go Mad On Mescalin" - parodies of Enid Blyton's Famous Five books. I guess "The Young Ones" is an acquired taste - very irreverant humour, with a lot of what I would call "toilet humour" but still very funny (and also very "80's"). Comic Strip also did "Bad News Tour" which was (I assume) an homage to Spinal Tap. It's a kind of mockumentary of a heavy metal band called Bad News, and follows them on their first tour (their first gig has five audience members, counting a dog). And they're AWFUL! Hell _________________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too" - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:21:05 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: skin crawlers, njc Hell wrote: That would be an interesting thread - what bands/artists make your skin crawl?! Hi Hell, Neil Diamond. Abba. Barry Manilow. And you know there might be more... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:12:21 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 11 On December 11 the following articles were published: 1975: "Jonis new recipe for success" - Leicester Mercury http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1130 1976: "Mitchell Misses Her Own Mark" - Los Angeles Times http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=155 1995: "Birthday Suite" - New Yorker http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=18 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #489 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)