From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #471 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 25 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 471 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: NJC Re: Rolling Stone's Top 500 Songs NJC ["hell" ] Re: NO F**K! NJC [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: NO F**K! NJC [Vince Lavieri ] your hejira ["Anne Sandstrom" ] Re: NO F**K! NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: Borderline and Irony [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Number 1 [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: your hejira ["Steven Polifka" ] RE: NJC Re: Rolling Stone's Top 500 Songs NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC [steph@cix.co.uk (Ani] Re: thankful njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC [Em ] pain in the bum [tantra_apso ] Re: U2, njc [colin ] Re: Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC [hell ] Re: singing nun njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: singing nun njc [Em ] Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC [Catherine McKay ] RE: singing nun njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: pain in the bum njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: singing nun njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: singing nun njc [Catherine McKay ] RE: singing nun njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: singing nun njc [Em ] RE: singing nun njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: singing nun njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: singing nun njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] RE: singing nun njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: singing nun njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Sharing my misery - thanks NJC [steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:47:16 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: RE: NJC Re: Rolling Stone's Top 500 Songs NJC Em wrote: > wondering too, how many Dylan freaks would even say that's anywhere > NEAR being his best song. > So many mo' bettah ones.... > Em > ps imho, of course Well, it's my opinion as well! I thought of this too, as soon as I read that LARS was voted #1. There are so many to choose from though, and I don't know how anyone could pick a favourite - just like I can't pick a favourite Joni song. Favourite album is easy (Hejira, followed VERY closely by HOSL), but I'd have to pick 10 favourite songs on a "first equal" basis! Hell _________________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too" - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:14:12 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: NO F**K! NJC I should think it were Vanilla Ice. :-) - -Julius Who was that gutter mouthed lyricist anyway who whose writing so eerily foreshadows Marshall Mathers?? Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:46:37 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: NO F**K! NJC I should think not! :-) Unless Joni ("Just Ice") has a new nickname! I got a smile out of your post, Julius, so thank you! One of my favorite songs on Eminem's new album is "Mosh" where he really rips into Bush - it expresses my seething rage that we could have elected this guy. Vince Muskegon: my once and new home http://www.ci.muskegon.mi.us/ On Nov 24, 2004, at 5:14 AM, JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > I should think it were Vanilla Ice. :-) > > -Julius > > Who was that gutter mouthed lyricist anyway who whose writing so > eerily > foreshadows Marshall Mathers?? > > Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:03:01 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: your hejira Colin, I really enjoyed reading about your trip! It sounds like quite the adventure. I'm so glad you got to travel and meet some wonderful people. Russ and I just got back from a week's vacation to Aruba. It rained a lot (very unusual since it's a desert island), but we had fun anyway. I thought of you and wondered how your travels were going. I think there's a short story at least in your bridge crossing. What a metaphor for life! Apprehension as you approach the crossing, then enjoying the actual experience... Anyway, you should be proud of yourself. I think it's hard for those without physical challenges to understand the difficulties one encounters. It sounds like you manage very well, not just physically, but emotionally as well. And, since we're fast approaching Thanksgiving here in the States, and I'm thinking of things I'm thankful for, I'm really thankful that you are my friend. Welcome back! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:24:19 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: NO F**K! NJC Vince ponders: > Who was that gutter mouthed lyricist anyway who whose writing so eerily > foreshadows Marshall Mathers?? > Andrew Dice Clay? - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:26:28 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Borderline and Irony I wrote: "Extending Nuriel's hypothesis, once the marriage itself happened, the songs of indictment did, too. As usual, oversimplified due to time constraints. But that's Joni for you." The irony of full disclosure. If only I had taken my little remaining time to look at my final substantive sentence instead of apologize for lack of time, I would not have written the opposite of what I intended. "Once the marriage itself happened, the indictments stopped". Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:33:47 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Number 1 Hell _wrote_ (mailto:wrote@jmdl.com) : Don't you find there's a certain irony in a publication choosing a song with their name in the title as #1!? Hell, yes ! :-) Anyway, the only "Number One" song I know is Joni's. Groan. Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:18:17 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Re: your hejira Hey Colin! Thanks for the update on your trip- glad you are home safe. Sounds like on many levels, that you *needed* this trip... hugs, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:56:01 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: NJC Re: Rolling Stone's Top 500 Songs NJC Well, at least they didn't choose Joni's California, what with the line, "reading Rolling Stone, reading Vogue!" Maggie NP: Joni, "You're My Thrill" - -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:30 PM To: hell@ihug.co.nz; joni@smoe.org Subject: NJC Re: Rolling Stone's Top 500 Songs NJC **Don't you find there's a certain irony in a publication choosing a song with their name in the title as #1!? That irony was not lost on me, Hell...like Randy suggested, there must have been electronic voting machines involved. At least "On The Cover Of The Rolling Stone" by Dr. Hook didn't make it or we would have known that the fix was in. And regardless of anyone's list, my #1 is still Hejira from the album of the same name. I could come up with 500 of my own favorite songs, but trying to order them would send me to the loony bin most likely. Bob NP: U2, "Vertigo" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:25:35 +0200 From: "ron old mweb" Subject: Re: LBJ - NJC hi >>>>but can the JMDL solve the mystery of who killed JFK?" > - --Smurf, who has become a sucker for just about any conspiracy theory > lately smurfy - you just wanna win the hundred grand!!!!!!! http://www.jfkreloaded/ actually - come to think of it - the 100 gs would be a great kick off for jonifest - any gaming wizards out there????? ron no - lucinda - concrete & barbed wire ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:54 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC My dear Joni Friends I hope you don't mind me, as a Joni Only digest person, writing this. I guess it's because I have a lot of people I regard as my friends in this bit of cyber space that I feel I'd like to put the call out for myself today. I've just come in on this dark November night in this small village in the heart of Bedfordshire, England having chased a gang of about 6 youths down alleys and across a small park. Both my partner, Steph, and I just lost it for the first time. We've lived here together for 23 years - Steph's been here since '77 and in that time we've had name calling - 'Lezzies' - that kind of thing. This last few weeks has been the worst ever. Not funny, or kids just growing up - it just doesn't feel quite the same. 'Lesbo scum' written on the car, broken wing mirrors, 'F---ing Dykes' and tonight even one of them putting his hand down his trousers saying 'mmmm I smell pussy' - - I don't feel very safe in my own home and I wonder if anything else might happen tonight. The strange thing is that I have finally called the police and the woman at the phone said 'You just shouldn't have to put up with that' and her saying that makes me cry more than anything. That she should say that feels like we don't deserve this and 'normal' people really feel that way. I think the worst bit is that I ran and ran and ran after these lads calling them cowards and to stand face to face with me - someone must have heard the noise and there was just no-one there. Not a curtain moved, not a door opened. I must go and find some tissue and blow my nose. I just had to tell someone. Love Anita xx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:19:48 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: thankful njc --- colin wrote: >> > I am back from my trip. I had a great time, if > somewhat difficult. Your > 'thankful' heading stood out as i had plenty of > opportunity to be > thankful. Colin, I enjoy living vicariously reading about your travels. You are very brave to do all this driving all over Europe and so lucky to have friends all over. You kept me in suspense with this: > I eventually got there to find my > friend, Sten, with ahlf > his blown off only a couple of hours before. ... while frantically I wondered - half his WHAT blown off? but fortunately you relieved the suspense shortly after. This sounds very exciting and kinky in a slightly Shakespearean way! > I was topped and > searched twice by > the French and once by the Brits at the Tunnel. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:29:22 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC Anita, so very very sorry that is happening to you. And of course you shouldn't have to live that way. NO ONE should. I have to say though, that in a way, I'm glad they ran away and didn't "face" you, because I'd hate to think of you all, or anyone, having to face physical one on one violence from these little creeps. Hoping that having involved the police will be some help. And mostly just hoping these scumbags *do* grow up and with them the troubles will be gone. Something similar happened to me in the 80's when leaving a concert - this little "gang" was waiting (they were like trolls under a bridge), the male ones very stoked up and angry with bottles, and the girls egging them on, and they asked us the usually crappola, who gets on top - - who is the "man" etc. Got right in our faces. Spit at us. And the weird thing is - this is a str8 fried I was walking with - not anyone I was even involved with. They followed us to my truck and one kid kicked the door of my truck really hard and it was always dented. Ah well - old truck. Took all I had not to point the truck at them on the way out. Just remember, you and Steph are GOOD, they are, if not *bad* then surely TWISTED little turds. I, for one, would like to hear any follow-up you wish to tell about. Let us know how its going, ok? best wishes on this, hope it goes away, Em (and partner Linda) FL - --- Anita Gabrielle Tedder wrote: > My dear Joni Friends > I hope you don't mind me, as a Joni Only digest person, writing this. > I > guess it's because I have a lot of people I regard as my friends in > this > bit of cyber space that I feel I'd like to put the call out for > myself > today. > > I've just come in on this dark November night in this small village > in the > heart of Bedfordshire, England having chased a gang of about 6 youths > down > alleys and across a small park. Both my partner, Steph, and I just > lost it > for the first time. We've lived here together for 23 years - Steph's > been > here since '77 and in that time we've had name calling - 'Lezzies' - > that > kind of thing. This last few weeks has been the worst ever. Not > funny, or > kids just growing up - it just doesn't feel quite the same. 'Lesbo > scum' > written on the car, broken wing mirrors, 'F---ing Dykes' and tonight > even > one of them putting his hand down his trousers saying 'mmmm I smell > pussy' > - I don't feel very safe in my own home and I wonder if anything > else > might happen tonight. > > The strange thing is that I have finally called the police and the > woman > at the phone said 'You just shouldn't have to put up with that' and > her > saying that makes me cry more than anything. That she should say that > > feels like we don't deserve this and 'normal' people really feel that > way. > > I think the worst bit is that I ran and ran and ran after these lads > calling them cowards and to stand face to face with me - someone must > have > heard the noise and there was just no-one there. Not a curtain moved, > not > a door opened. > > I must go and find some tissue and blow my nose. I just had to tell > someone. > Love > Anita xx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:31:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC --- Anita Gabrielle Tedder wrote: > My dear Joni Friends > I hope you don't mind me, as a Joni Only digest > person, writing this. I > guess it's because I have a lot of people I regard > as my friends in this > bit of cyber space that I feel I'd like to put the > call out for myself > today. > > I've just come in on this dark November night in > this small village in the > heart of Bedfordshire, England having chased a gang > of about 6 youths down > alleys and across a small park. [...] > The strange thing is that I have finally called the > police and the woman > at the phone said 'You just shouldn't have to put up > with that' and her > saying that makes me cry more than anything. That > she should say that > feels like we don't deserve this and 'normal' people > really feel that way. > Anita, I'm so sorry you've been dealing with this shit. I am also very relieved that you've reported this to the cops and that it sounds like they are prepared to deal with it. There are anti-hate laws in the UK, I hope? These miserable cowards must not be allowed to get away with that. We all lose when bullies are allowed to run amok. Of course you don't deserve to be treated badly - no one does. You and Steph are two of the kindest people I've ever met. I do hope the police follow up and that charges are laid against these creeps to make an example of them. Lots of love... ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 02:18:46 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC Anita Gabrielle Tedder wrote: > >I've just come in on this dark November night in this small village in the >heart of Bedfordshire, England having chased a gang of about 6 youths down >alleys and across a small park. Both my partner, Steph, and I just lost it >for the first time. We've lived here together for 23 years - Steph's been >here since '77 and in that time we've had name calling - 'Lezzies' - that >kind of thing. This last few weeks has been the worst ever. Not funny, or >kids just growing up - it just doesn't feel quite the same. 'Lesbo scum' >written on the car, broken wing mirrors, 'F---ing Dykes' and tonight even >one of them putting his hand down his trousers saying 'mmmm I smell pussy' >- I don't feel very safe in my own home and I wonder if anything else >might happen tonight. > > > dear anita - i know exactly what this is like and I have shared similar here on the joni list. It is why I never go to my flat in London unless i really have to. Neither the police nor the council helped, despite their 'policies' and of course all our neighbours are deaf and blind. I am so so sorry to read about what you and steph are going thru. Nothing i can say will cahnge anything but maybe knowing you are not alone helps a little bit. this brings up a lot-like str8 so called friends of long standing who thought we must have invited it by too open.... hugs to you both. do everything you can to stop these shits and if the police are willing to help, good, let them. this is a specific offense now I think and therefore the police powers if they will use them. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 03:14:53 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: U2, njc Hi Bob, Noticed you've been playing the new U2, how is it? I saw a video clip and was impressed with that Vertigo track. Great rock. Totally unrelated but has anybody heard of a lebanese nun singing classical arabic music? I'd like to find out her name. There can't be too many singing lebanese nuns! Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 02:43:17 +0000 From: tantra_apso Subject: pain in the bum It seems my long drive has done some damage-to my bum. I have beenf retting away about this pain which has got worse and worse and now can't sleep. I thouhgt it was to do with my as yet undiagnosed central nervous system problem(if I ddin't tell you, that is what is wrong-it seems i have a central nvervous system problem but don't know what till i see the neurologist) since i am in pain most of the time. Bu this is well awful. so i called my dr friend. i described to her what it feels like and exactly where it is and she reckons i have a cyst at the base of my spine, between my cheeks, probably cause dby the driving. Phew. Of course I thouhgt I had cancer of the bum. So it is off to the dr again in the mroning and show off my bum. John is in bulgaria till sunday which is a bummer. oh ad today i got all the paerwork for my little 'cripple' badge for my car and other stuff. reams of the bloody stuff that just does me in looking at it. i will have to get someone else to fill it all in for me i can't read my own writing at the bes tof times but now my hands don't work properly i just won't be able to write it all out. they work fine for 'heavy' things like steering and changing gear but trying to do up or undo laces is not always succesful. oh fuck it i don't know why i am beating around the bush with you lot. i am really sick and this is scary. not because of my bum but because of the other stuff. it could be MS. it could be somthing else. i don't know. i am scared that i will get to the point i can't take care of my dogs anymore or take care of myself. I feel scared and angry. i spent all thsoe years getting my head sorted and have had 5 happy years because i succeeded and now it looks as if i will be physically incapaciated insted. still preferable to ther mental pain but really i would have preferred just to have been well and enjoyed the fruits of my hard work. but then we all know life is not fair and we haev to deal with whatever comes. codiene makes me feel funny, noit ha ha, and it is very late here and my bum is throbbiung and i just feel like shit and feel like bitching and maybe i am not making sense so should gert into bed writing emails stoend is not a brilliant thing as i know from trhe apst. i am sure joni has a song for me.... - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 02:47:18 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: U2, njc Laurent Olszer wrote: >There can't be too many singing lebanese nuns! > > > > probaly are. there a lot of lebanese nuns so ia m sure many of them can sing. i have met a few lebanese nuns and a couple of lebanese ministers too, both were Methoidsits and they didn't worry about them being lenabese. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC Anita Tedder wrote: > I've just come in on this dark November night in this small > village in the heart of Bedfordshire, England having chased > a gang of about 6 youths down alleys and across a small park. > Both my partner, Steph, and I just lost it for the first > time. We've lived here together for 23 years - Steph's been > here since '77 and in that time we've had name calling - > 'Lezzies' - that kind of thing. This last few weeks has been > the worst ever. Not funny, or kids just growing up - it just > doesn't feel quite the same. 'Lesbo scum' written on the car, > broken wing mirrors, 'F---ing Dykes' and tonight even one of > them putting his hand down his trousers saying 'mmmm I smell > pussy' - I don't feel very safe in my own home and I wonder > if anything else might happen tonight. I'm so sorry you're going through this Anita. I hope the police really do step up and take some action. You definitely don't deserve this kind of hatred and abuse - no one does. Hell - VERY fortunate to live in a relatively gay-tolerant country ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:12:12 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: singing nun njc laurent, believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! her name is (soeur) marie keyrouz (the french spelling of my last name -- my father's family is french-lebanese and our last name's spelling was changed by some dumb immigration officer when my father came to argentina). she lives in paris. there's a long story here. someday i'll tell you all about soeur marie. wally, who used to look EXACTLY like soeur marie when i was a teenager and 100 pounds thinner. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Laurent > Olszer > Enviado el: Miercoles, 24 de Noviembre de 2004 11:15 p.m. > Para: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > CC: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: U2, njc > > > > Totally unrelated but has anybody heard of a lebanese nun singing > classical > arabic music? I'd like to find out her name. > There can't be too many singing lebanese nuns! > > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:22:22 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Re: singing nun njc > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > Dear Wally, JMDL never ceases to amaze me. Can you please suggest a recording? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:28:28 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: singing nun njc Ya'll are freaking me out!!!!!! whoa!!!!!!! :D em NP George Harrison "Dark Horse" - --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > > > Dear Wally, > > JMDL never ceases to amaze me. Can you please suggest a recording? > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: If you're not up for misery, delete immediately NJC --- colin wrote: > dear anita - i know exactly what this is like and I > have shared similar > here on the joni list. It is why I never go to my > flat in London unless > i really have to. Neither the police nor the council > helped, despite > their 'policies' and of course all our neighbours > are deaf and blind. > I am so so sorry to read about what you and steph > are going thru. > Nothing i can say will cahnge anything but maybe > knowing you are not > alone helps a little bit. this brings up a lot-like > str8 so called > friends of long standing who thought we must have > invited it by too open.... > I'm sorry to read about that too, Colin. I know you've mentioned these things before and I am appalled that your local authorities would do nothing about it. And you're right that many people would suggest that maybe you "invited" it. This isn't exclusively a gay thing, btw. So many people imply that women who have been raped or children who have been molested "invited it" by dressing or behaving a certain way. People don't want to admit that these things happen because certain other people are creeps. They prefer to believe that these things couldn't possibly happen. It's too frightening and upsets their world order. I think that's why the neighbours are often silent about it and don't hear, or don't want to hear, about it. But let one or two people speak up about it and all of a sudden, you will find support. I've been thinking about this since my earlier reply, and just getting very angry about it for so many reasons. I was going to suggest that Anita consider contacting her MP, but first, go the police route. As well, consider contacting any or all of women's help centres, rape crisis centres, any gay/lesbian/etc support group. You need to be able to talk to other people about this to really understand that YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. The fault is squarely with the other parties. There is nothing wrong with you and, Anita, I'm afraid you feel somehow that it's wrong that you are a lesbian and I understand where those feelings come from, because it's likely the message you have got from family and that you must be a certain way to meet their expectations, but you need to get rid of that, because nothing of what happened to you is in any way your fault and you absolutely DO NOT DESERVE this. You are contributing members of society, Anita and Steph, Colin and John. You are productive citizens and taxpayers. You put money into the economy. You produce works of art, Anita in your music, Colin in your knitting. I would bet a large amount of money that the little bastards that are harassing, yes harassing, you are unemployed and/or school-aged kids who are skipping school and doing nothing productive. They have far too much times on their hands and need to learn a lesson. I hope the lesson they learn is to value other people for who they are and for what they do and for the love they give and get from other people. But if they don't, then slam their asses into jail and keep them from doing any more harm to anyone. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:38:03 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: singing nun njc i'm not sure i can help. she's a contralto and she sings byzantine chant. i'm not really much into that kind of voice and music. the only one i have (and i have it only because it is so bizarre to be soeur marie's cousin and to LOOK like her) is "chants sacris de l'orient" (harmonia mundi). when my sister heard it she said "this woman CAN'T be a virgin with a voice like that". i'd like to hear your opinion on the matter. wally, trying on wimples > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Laurent Olszer [mailto:olszer@xlsecurity.com] > Enviado el: Jueves, 25 de Noviembre de 2004 12:22 a.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz > CC: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: singing nun njc > > > > > > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > > > Dear Wally, > > JMDL never ceases to amaze me. Can you please suggest a recording? > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:40:52 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: pain in the bum njc --- tantra_apso wrote: > oh fuck it i don't know why i am > beating around the > bush with you lot. i am really sick and this is > scary. not because of my > bum but because of the other stuff. it could be MS. > it could be somthing > else. i don't know. i am scared that i will get to > the point i can't > take care of my dogs anymore or take care of myself. First, I hope it isn't any of those things. Whatever it is though, you've got a long way to go from where you are right now to not being able to take care of yourself, so don't drive yourself nuts with this - one step at a time. I've had one of those bum things you're talking about (way too much information!) but the good news is, they can get rid of it and no more bum pain! > i am sure joni has a song for me.... > How about this one: "Kiss my ass," I said! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:46:04 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: singing nun njc Ain't it cool? You can ask a question about ANYTHING, no matter how obscure or bizarre it may seem to be, and sure enough, someone will have an answer for it. --- Em wrote: > Ya'll are freaking me out!!!!!! > whoa!!!!!!! > :D > em > NP George Harrison "Dark Horse" > > > --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > > > > > Dear Wally, > > > > JMDL never ceases to amaze me. Can you please > suggest a recording? > > > > Laurent > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:46:26 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: singing nun njc Ain't it cool? You can ask a question about ANYTHING, no matter how obscure or bizarre it may seem to be, and sure enough, someone will have an answer for it - sometimes even the correct one ;-) --- Em wrote: > Ya'll are freaking me out!!!!!! > whoa!!!!!!! > :D > em > NP George Harrison "Dark Horse" > > > --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > > > > > Dear Wally, > > > > JMDL never ceases to amaze me. Can you please > suggest a recording? > > > > Laurent > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:51:24 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: singing nun njc --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > it is so bizarre to be > soeur marie's cousin and > to LOOK like her) Do you still have a beard, Wally? LOL!!! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:53:06 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: singing nun njc Hi Catherine! yes its so "connected" and "across the universe" that it gives me the twirlies and I have to lie down. This despite not being 'runk or stone-ed. Whew! :) Em NP John Prine "Your Flag Decal Won't get you into Heaven Anymore" --- Catherine McKay wrote: > Ain't it cool? You can ask a question about ANYTHING, > no matter how obscure or bizarre it may seem to be, > and sure enough, someone will have an answer for it - > sometimes even the correct one ;-) > > --- Em wrote: > > Ya'll are freaking me out!!!!!! > > whoa!!!!!!! > > :D > > em > > NP George Harrison "Dark Horse" > > > > > > --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > > > > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > > > > > > > Dear Wally, > > > > > > JMDL never ceases to amaze me. Can you please > > suggest a recording? > > > > > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:56:58 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: singing nun njc i should've written "to have looked like her". i have a beard and she doesn't (or maybe she shaves, i don't know). i wish i had a picture from my younger days. the resemblance is uncanny. wally, still furious about what happened to anita. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] > Enviado el: Jueves, 25 de Noviembre de 2004 12:51 a.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz > CC: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: RE: singing nun njc > > > --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > > it is so bizarre to be > > soeur marie's cousin and > > to LOOK like her) > > Do you still have a beard, Wally? LOL!!! > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------- > Doctors' pills give you brand new ills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:15:05 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: singing nun njc *W* the wicked, winged, wimpled one writes: > believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! > Get OUT! If she's your cousin, then I'm the goddamn singing nun. No wait, she's the singing nun. Whatever. Can she play Dominique? - --Father Murphy-Keyrouz, giving *W* the oooh la-la ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:22:06 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: singing nun njc > wally, who used to look EXACTLY like soeur marie when i was a teenager and > 100 pounds thinner. > So I guess that makes her your ... LEAN COUSINE! Hahahahahhaha, - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:24:43 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: singing nun njc not THAT singing nun, you silly goose. not the flying nun either. i've just found an old passport picture. if the last thing i do, i'll have it scanned and post it side by side with soeur marie's portrait. this is SO trippy. *W*, obviously NOT doing any studying tonight. but i delivered my paper today. and my next exam is on dec. 7 so i have a couple of days to be REALLY silly on the jmdl. -----Mensaje original----- De: Smurfycopy@aol.com [mailto:Smurfycopy@aol.com] Enviado el: Jueves, 25 de Noviembre de 2004 01:15 a.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: singing nun njc *W* the wicked, winged, wimpled one writes: believe it or not, she's MY COUSIN!!!! Get OUT! If she's your cousin, then I'm the goddamn singing nun. No wait, she's the singing nun. Whatever. Can she play Dominique? --Father Murphy-Keyrouz, giving *W* the oooh la-la ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:29:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: singing nun njc tsk tsk tsk you used to be witty, my love. -----Mensaje original----- De: Smurfycopy@aol.com [mailto:Smurfycopy@aol.com] Enviado el: Jueves, 25 de Noviembre de 2004 01:22 a.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; olszer@xlsecurity.com CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: singing nun njc wally, who used to look EXACTLY like soeur marie when i was a teenager and 100 pounds thinner. So I guess that makes her your ... LEAN COUSINE! Hahahahahhaha, --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 07:32 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: steph@cix.co.uk (Anita Gabrielle Tedder) Subject: Sharing my misery - thanks NJC Dear Friends Thank you so very much for all your kindness and messages. I have managed to get a bit of sleep and to come down to all these wonderful words was more than I could have hoped for. Feels kinda holding. I think it's the power of my rage I find disconcerting and my own internalised homophobia. That I should feel so grateful that someone on the end of a phone says that we shouldn't have to put up with this. I guess there's still a lot of shame in me just when I think Im comfortable in my skin. I know that the only way that there will be peace in the world is to find peace in ourselves. But, my goodness, what a challenge that is. I am going to make a cup of tea for my beloved. Maybe that might be a start. Thank you all so much for all your stories and support. I feel much less alone. Much love Anita xx ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #471 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)