From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #463 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 17 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 463 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- You've changed... ["Raffaele Malanga" ] Re: You've changed... now NJC [Em ] Susan Egan [Jerry Notaro ] (NJC) A little Willy the Shake for the times [Lori Fye ] Re: (NJC) A little Willy the Shake for the times [Jerry Notaro ] piggies NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] votes counted, njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: politics and life, njc activism ["Kate Bennett" ] Fw: willy the sheikh now einstein njc ["ron old mweb" ] Re: goodbye ["Sherelle Smith" ] (NJC) Ohio vote will be recounted [Lori Fye ] US Election 2004 ["Marianne Rizzo" ] (NJC) Nader asks for recount in New Hampshire [Lori Fye ] Re: US Election 2004 njc [Randy Remote ] NJC Re: Susan Egan NJC & NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC Re: Susan Egan NJC & NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Fwd: Brenda Russell [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Bill watching, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Bill watching, njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: Bill watching, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] RE: Bob Taylor in the news, njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Bill watching, njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] RE: [NortheastJonifest] what you can do-- please do something njc ["Kate] ticket prices, NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #462 [BRYAN8847@aol.com] votergate njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni Covers ["Brian Hernandez" ] Re: ["FredNow" ] Re: Hello ["Wallykai" ] kink 101.9 ["Leslie Neumann" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:08:31 +0000 From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: You've changed... http://www.utopiarescue.com/wanted/jone-itchel.html XXRaf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: You've changed... now NJC OMG! god bless Kinky Friedman and the rest of those folks! What a coooooooooool rescue/shelter that is. :) Wonderful thing to see on this Tuesday a.m. Em - --- Raffaele Malanga wrote: > http://www.utopiarescue.com/wanted/jone-itchel.html > > XXRaf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:06:51 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Susan Egan Susan9s new cd has 2 Joni songs on it. One has been part of her set of her current Cabaret show: Just a quick report on last night's Susan Egan concert at Joe's Pub which gave a fine end to our Front & Center concert series for the year. (Stay tuned for some exciting details on 2005 concerts coming soon!). In her sold-out, New York concert debut, Susan showed exactly how she's been lighting up the Broadway stage in shows like Beauty and the Beast, Cabaret, Triumph of Love, Thoroughly Modern Millie, and State Fair. On top of that, she showcased several songs from her new CD - Coffee House, which is an eclectic mix of brilliant song choices that if you've yet to hear you should go out and buy immediately. The appreciative crowd at Joe's Pub last night certainly agreed with enthusiastic ovations throughout her 90 minute concert. The set list follows for those that weren't there last night, and we'll have photos up soon from the night as well. Once again, a big 'bravo' to Susan, and her band. More/The Story Goes On Both Sides Now Taylor the Latte Boy Oh Very Young How Lovely to be a Woman/How Lucky Can You Get (w/alternate lyrics) Across 9th Avenue I Can't Believe My Heart Jimmy Sean Harkness Solo Where In The World Is My Prince Oh, How I Loved You The Last Song Into The West (from Lord of the Rings) Gimme, Gimme Sing Me A Happy Song Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:50:13 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) A little Willy the Shake for the times "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind . . . "And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and gladly so. How do I know? "For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." - -Shakespeare ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:58:35 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: "Piggies", njc Yes, but whatever you do, don't ask Ashara to listen to him sing! - -----Original Message----- From: jlamadoo@fuse.net [mailto:jlamadoo@fuse.net] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:45 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: "Piggies", njc I'm not calling anybody a pig. Now, I have (uhh) an unauthorized collection of some of the tracks that became the white album. On its version of "Piggies", George sings, "clutching forks and knives to cut their pork chops." BTW, in "Chronicles", Bob Dylan mentions "Do You Want to Know a Secret" in passing beccuase it was on the radio when something else was happening. He said something like, "The Beatles were so easy to listen to. That song was basically a 50s ditty, a sentimental throw-away, but they did it perfectly. There's nothing wussy about it." Sometimes I think this Dylan guy has a talent with the words, ya know? All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:15:11 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: (NJC) A little Willy the Shake for the times Sorry, Lori. You've been fooled again. From the Urban Legends library: It has also been attributed (most famously by a red-faced Barbra Streisand) to William Shakespeare, who presumably would have composed the lines for his historical play, "Julius Caesar" but they're nowhere to be found there, either. Apart from one small phrase, "And I am Caesar," which vaguely echoes the closing words of a couplet in the play ("I rather tell thee what is to be fear'd / Than what I fear; for always I am Caesar."), the language is anachronistic and distinctly un-Shakespearean. The words "patriotism" and "citizenry" were unknown in Elizabethan England. The Bard's Julius Caesar spoke in iambic pentameter, not mediocre prose. Short of the culprit stepping forward, there's little likelihood of ascertaining who did write this politically convenient baloney, but we know it wasn't Shakespeare and we can be reasonably sure it wasn't Julius Caesar. It does, however, bear all the markings of a "classic" Internet hoax. Last updated: 10/02/02 > "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in > order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for > patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both > emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind . . . > > "And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch > and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, > the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the > citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and > blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights > unto the leader, and gladly so. How do I know? > > "For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." > > -Shakespeare ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:24:43 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Brenda Russell Brenda Russell9s new cd Between the Sun and Moon has a song on it that she also wrote called It9s a Jazz Day. From the lyrics: Mingus this, Mingus that Joni showed me where9s it at. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:25:03 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: piggies NJC My book 'A Hard Day's Write' says George wrote it as a satire of society. unfortunately Charles Manson took it as inspiration which of course horrified George. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:40:57 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: votes counted, njc >I think many people (maybe not all) would agree that it is very important to have all the votes counted. . and there needs to be an attempt at a valid ballot check and re-check . . Right now, a paper trail in every state sounds good. (and I don't believe we had this). Perhaps we can come up with an even better solution soon.< This was the cry of alarm (that in my opinion was not loud enough) in the year(s) prior to the election... some states such as California decertified machines without a paper trail (it was actually more complicated as Diebold had done some other unethical or illegal stuff- Diebold being the company who's owner is a big supporter of Bush & in so many words vowed to get him re-elected). But other states allowed these machines to be used. The recount in Ohio is officially going forward- the Green & Libertarian Parties have raised enough funds to do so. I am sure it will be met with opposition (Blackwell said something to the effect that dissed the efforts- his actions prior to & on election day show him to be a member of good standing in the Katherine Harris club of voter disenfranchisement). Marianne- coming up with a good solution is happening right now! This is the time to get involved with making the change. It is amazing what Bev Harris has done as an ordinary citizen. The vast majority of this movement is coming from the people, not from our political leaders. It is an exciting time & reminds me of how change really begins with people, not the political leaders who often have other agendas. A movement such as this is the very foundation of our country's origins. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:51:36 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: politics and life, njc activism >What what what, can we do so this doesn't continue? That old saying "if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem"....well it asolutely RINGSSSS in my ears these days. It haunts me. I agree & that phrase has been running through my brain for days... anyone can get involved through moveon or black box or a number of environmental orgs or your local political party (for me I prefer the other orgs over political parties)... the internet makes it easy if you don't have time in other ways- donate, educate, sign petitions, call etc.. I have an over full time job & a side job as a musician & another one as a show producer, then there is the family time & oh yeah exercise & relaxation... but my life would feel shallow if I were not actively trying to change things for the better both locally & on a grand scale... the nice thing about being part of a group (such as the above mentioned) is that you can feel like your couple of dollars or your time is really doing something significant ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:54:20 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) A little Willy the Shake for the times > Sorry, Lori. You've been fooled again. Ack. Ah well. The words are still good and timely. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:46:36 -0800 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: goodbye I would have to agree everyone. :-) Step back, take a deep breath. Relax. Remember we pretty much all like each other here, right? It's possible to disagree with people you like. Some of my friends ACTUALLY DON"T UNDERSTAND my obsession with Mitchell. I still speak to them. One of them actually told me that he thought Joni's voice was grating. Once I woke from my faint and slapped him with a large tuna, we're still friends. He went to see Barbara Cook with me the other night (who was magnificent--she still has a golden voice at 77!) Cheers, Mike in SF PS Singing "Free Man in Paris" to myself all week, leaving for that lovely city on Thursday afternoon! On Nov 15, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > No! No! No! No one hit the road! Please remain calm! > > I've been with this list almost since its inception and I have seen > many people come and go and come back again. Take a break if you need > to...delete the digests for a while or just become a lurker but don't > leave! We have become a network of friends as well as a family and > trust me, after doing that, when you walk away...it is very painful > because we're all kind of joined at the hip with each other no matter > how vehemently we disagree. > > Sometimes you have to take a break from the list to find your > direction with your "life path". Sometimes the list gets in the way of > it. Sometimes it is part of the direction. There is much to learn here > about ourselves and each other here. It can be very painful but I have > found that what is more painful (If you are not really sure about it) > is to walk away from the list and unsubscribe. There's an emptiness > there that from my experience is hard to describe. > > I am just asking that if you want to walk away from the list, know > that you know that this is what you want to do. From my experience, if > you walk away because you are hurt or because you feel that you > offended someone, it just leaves a bigger hole in your heart and > magnifies the sadness you are already feeling. If indeed it is time > for a permanent change then there is a brighter horizon waiting for > you. I just hate to see people unsubscribe in haste. There is more to > this list than meets the eye. It is so unlike any other. Okay, back to > my corner.... > > Sherelle > > > Em wrote: > > I don't recall brandishing a pitchfork. > But if I did, please let me know - I will hit the highway too. > Em > > ========================================= "See, the human mind is like a...pinata. Break it open, and there's a lot of surprises inside. Once you get the pinata perspective, you see that losing your mind can be a peak experience." - --Trudy (Lily Tomlin) from "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe" Mike Friedman San Francisco, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:07:11 +0200 From: "ron old mweb" Subject: Fw: willy the sheikh now einstein njc hi well - so willy's quote was debunked - heres a couple that are genuine, from a fairly bright boytjie - albert e: on patriotism: "He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." on pre emptive war: In our time the military mentality is still more dangerous than formerly because the offensive weapons have become much more powerful than the defensive ones. Therefore it leads, by necessity, to preventive war. The general insecurity that goes hand in hand with this results in the sacrifice of the citizen's civil rights to the supposed welfare of the state" and on war in general: "In two weeks the sheep-like masses of any country can be worked up by the newspapers into such a state of excited fury that men are prepared to put on uniforms and kill and be killed, for the sake of the sordid ends of a few interested parties" but didnt he pretty much invent the atom bomb - so how doies that figure????? ron np - john hammond - homeless blues ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:06:56 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: goodbye Mike, that made me laugh so loud, my coworkers think I have lost it! Thanks and thanks for the good advice! Sherelle >From: Mike Friedman >To: "Sherelle Smith" >CC: joni@smoe.org, emzdogz@yahoo.com >Subject: Re: goodbye >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:46:36 -0800 > >I would have to agree everyone. :-) Step back, take a deep breath. Relax. >Remember we pretty much all like each other here, right? It's possible to >disagree with people you like. Some of my friends ACTUALLY DON"T UNDERSTAND >my obsession with Mitchell. I still speak to them. > >One of them actually told me that he thought Joni's voice was grating. Once >I woke from my faint and slapped him with a large tuna, we're still >friends. He went to see Barbara Cook with me the other night (who was >magnificent--she still has a golden voice at 77!) > >Cheers, >Mike in SF > >PS Singing "Free Man in Paris" to myself all week, leaving for that lovely >city on Thursday afternoon! > >On Nov 15, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > >>No! No! No! No one hit the road! Please remain calm! >> >>I've been with this list almost since its inception and I have seen many >>people come and go and come back again. Take a break if you need >>to...delete the digests for a while or just become a lurker but don't >>leave! We have become a network of friends as well as a family and trust >>me, after doing that, when you walk away...it is very painful because >>we're all kind of joined at the hip with each other no matter how >>vehemently we disagree. >> >>Sometimes you have to take a break from the list to find your direction >>with your "life path". Sometimes the list gets in the way of it. Sometimes >>it is part of the direction. There is much to learn here about ourselves >>and each other here. It can be very painful but I have found that what is >>more painful (If you are not really sure about it) is to walk away from >>the list and unsubscribe. There's an emptiness there that from my >>experience is hard to describe. >> >>I am just asking that if you want to walk away from the list, know that >>you know that this is what you want to do. From my experience, if you walk >>away because you are hurt or because you feel that you offended someone, >>it just leaves a bigger hole in your heart and magnifies the sadness you >>are already feeling. If indeed it is time for a permanent change then >>there is a brighter horizon waiting for you. I just hate to see people >>unsubscribe in haste. There is more to this list than meets the eye. It is >>so unlike any other. Okay, back to my corner.... >> >>Sherelle >> >> >>Em wrote: >> >>I don't recall brandishing a pitchfork. >>But if I did, please let me know - I will hit the highway too. >>Em >> >> > >========================================= >"See, the human mind is like a...pinata. Break it open, and there's a lot >of surprises inside. Once you get the pinata perspective, you see that >losing your mind can be a peak experience." >--Trudy (Lily Tomlin) from "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the >Universe" > >Mike Friedman >San Francisco, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:24:49 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Ohio vote will be recounted Recount in Ohio A Sure Thing Green Party Campaign Raises $150,000 in 4 Days, Shifts Gears to Phase II WASHINGTON - November 15 - There will be a recount of the presidential vote in Ohio. On Thursday, David Cobb, the Green Partys 2004 presidential candidate, announced his intention to seek a recount of the vote in Ohio. Since the required fee for a statewide recount is $113,600, the only question was whether that money could be raised in time to meet the filing deadline. That question has been answered. Read the rest here: http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1115-06.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:26:22 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: US Election 2004 I just got this. Could al of this be true? US Election 2004 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." 35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based o-n votes counted by ES&S machines. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail. Diebold is based in Ohio and supplies almost all the voting machines there. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines. Bush's Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel owns 35% of ES&S and was caught lying about it ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes. Exit polls for the 2004 elections were accurate within 1% or less in areas where ballot machines were used. Major exit poll data discrepancies were noted in counties where touch screen machines were used, especially in Ohio and Florida. Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:44:13 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Nader asks for recount in New Hampshire From this article (which is worth reading in its entirety): http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i21election.htm, this: "And now stepping in to help is the man who was supposed to be the spoiler, Ralph Nader. As the Washington Post reports (see article: Losing by 335,000 in N.H., Nader Demands a Recount, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38000-2004Nov9.html), Nader is using New Hampshire as a staging ground to call the Diebold machine-recorded electronic votes into question. "Why is he doing it in New Hampshire, which Kerry won? Does this mean he is going after Kerry? "Not at all. It is tactically brilliant. In New Hampshire, any candidate can call for a recount as long as he offers to pay for it. And that cost in this small state is only $2,000 dollars. So Nader is choosing to challenge the results there, but only to make the case that, if there turns out to be a problem with the machines there, the votes must be challenged everywhere." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:58:46 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) And in New Mexico, provisional ballots ... ... are still being counted, and it looks as if the state actually belongs to Kerry. From http://www.alternet.org/election04/20493: "Despite early evidence that Bush had won, both Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron and Gov. Bill Richardson maintained that the uncounted provisional ballots would swing the state to Kerry. "Provisional ballot results are still being tabulated in most counties in New Mexico. In Santa Fe County, provisional ballot counting was completed over the weekend, with 516 going to Kerry and 148 going to Bush." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:58:58 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] what you can do-- please do something njc Kate Bennett wrote: > Far more interesting to me is the work of Bev Harris (the black box voting > site)... you can actually read her book there... I've been reading about her > findings over the past year or so & they are sobering... she actually > stumbled across computer voting data (somehow I am no techie) that should > have been confidential & was able to alter it... her message is that our > machines are seriously flawed... Deliberately so. A movie called Votergate is being made. The filmakers have released a 30m version of this movie viewable with Quicktime, downloadable here: http://www.votergate.tv/movie_links.html It features Bev Harris' famous TV appearance with Howard Dean, where they show that you can alter votes in the tabulating PC's in about a minute. They use the same hardware and Diebold software. All the votes go to a central computer, a regular PC, operated by a private corporation, the owner of whom has publically declared his allegance to Bush. In Florida, Republicans squashed a move to provide paper-trails for the machines. Without those, a recount is not possible. Our elections are no longer verifiable. In Ohio, 90,000 more votes were cast than voters (Kerry lost by 130,000 votes in Ohio). It's all so incredible. I couldn't stop watching this movie. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:37:47 -0500 From: Subject: Bob Taylor in the news, njc Yo, Kate. Have you seen the ad for Lincoln cars and SUVs featuring Bob Taylor? I guess they wanted someone who personifies attention to detail and success so they picked the founder of Taylor Guitars. Have a look: http://nytimes.com/ads/lincoln/ All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:44:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: US Election 2004 njc Most of this appears to be true, and much of it is covered in the Votergate movie, although: "80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S." These two companies represent 80% of voting machine votes is how I understand it. "None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio." I question the word "none". My understanding is that certain precincts received calls from the State Dept. in Washington, saying that they were targeted as "level 10" terrorist alert, causing them to count the votes behind locked doors, excluding the press and observers for the first time in history. There has been no explanation as to why the Republican officials issued the security alert in the key state of Ohio. RR Marianne Rizzo wrote: > I just got this. > Could al of this be true? > > US Election 2004 > > 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and > ES&S. > > There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or > oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. > > The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are > brothers. > > The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign > organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to > helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." > > 35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who > became Senator based o-n votes counted by ES&S machines. > > Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail > of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the > data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately > put in by voters. > > Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket > machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate > a paper trail. > > Diebold is based in Ohio and supplies almost all the voting > machines there. > > None of the international election observers were allowed in > the polls in Ohio. > > 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable > touch screen voting machines. > > Bush's Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to > replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems. > > Republican Senator Chuck Hagel owns 35% of ES&S and was > caught lying about it > > ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. > and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes. > > Exit polls for the 2004 elections were accurate within > 1% or less in areas where ballot machines were used. > > Major exit poll data discrepancies were noted in counties > where touch screen machines were used, especially in Ohio and > Florida. > > Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter > tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:31:32 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Susan Egan NJC & NJC **Susan's new cd has 2 Joni songs on it. OK, I knew about the BSN cover on it (and have it) but as far as I can tell that was it. Was there a hidden track? Are you thinking that "Roses"(Jani Ian) is "Roses Blue"? Did you see "Adam Mitchell", the writer of Franch Waltz which is also on the CD, and think it said "Joni Mitchell"? Or are you INTENTIONALLY lying and misleading the American Public with fraudulent information? I DEMAND a recount of the Joni covers on this CD! We all know you're in FLORIDA where fraud runs crazy, plus you're one a them homersexuals and can't be trusted no-way. Don't make me sic Ralph Nader on yer lying ass. Bob NP: Steve Klink, "Night In The City" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:58:48 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Susan Egan NJC & NJC Bobba Lou writes: > plus you're one a them > homersexuals and can't be trusted no-way. > Yes, Bob, but when Jerry served in Vietnam, he never left his buddies' behind! - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:59:15 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Brenda Russell Return-path: From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Full-name: Smurfycopy Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:43:35 EST Subject: Re: Brenda Russell To: notaro@stpt.usf.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Jerry writes: << Brenda Russell9s new cd Between the Sun and Moon has a song on it that she also wrote called It9s a Jazz Day. From the lyrics: Mingus this, Mingus that Joni showed me where9s it at. >> Can someone please forward this to Simon for his list of songs that mention Joni? Thanks, - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:08:28 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Bill watching, njc Hi Ya'll, Just got back from Bill watching. Picked up one of my sons from basketball practice, and my oldest said, "let's go to the Clinton Library." So, we did, or tried to anyway. The cops are everywhere as are the big vans with satellite dishes on top, just like when Bill gave his acceptance speech here in Little Rock years ago. One of the cops on the street told us we'd have to have special ID to go closer to the library, and just then a line of cars came by, and he said, "there goes Bill Clinton now." So, before we had a chance to thank the cop for pointing Bill out, we got behind the last cop car in the line of important vehicles. We followed them into the River Market district where Bill got out and was going to some sort of reception in a really cool old building. We saw him before he went into the building, giving people hugs... his specialty. We hope to do a little more Bill watching around town again in the next few days. Little Rock is a happening place right now. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:36:19 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bill watching, njc Laura writes: > we got behind the last cop car in the line of important > vehicles. We followed them into the River Market district where Bill got > out > > That is so cool, Laura! Stalking an ex-president! And I bet that as presidential libraries go, Clinton's will get a lot of visitors. After all, some people still love the randy, godless democrats. In other political news, my dear friend Gov. Jim is now out of office. Also looks like his marriage is ending. Gee, coming out can be tough on the whole famn damily! Looks like Nuriel's friend has dropped the lawsuit, though. By the way, Laura, I want to be in Little Rock with you the day Joni decides to blow into town. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:18:00 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Bill watching, njc In a message dated 11/16/04 7:36:19 PM Central Standard Time, Smurfycopy writes: in Little Rock the day Joni decides to blow into town. Let's hope this doesn't happen in the mock Oval office in the Clinton library... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:55:01 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Bob Taylor in the news, njc Interesting... the photo doesn't even look like him... >Yo, Kate. Have you seen the ad for Lincoln cars and SUVs featuring Bob Taylor? I guess they wanted someone who personifies attention to detail and success so they picked the founder of Taylor Guitars. Have a look: http://nytimes.com/ads/lincoln/ All the best, Jim< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:12:36 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bill watching, njc About Joni in Little Rock, Laura writes: > Let's hope this doesn't happen in the mock Oval office in the Clinton > library... > > And that Joni's not wearing her beret ... like you-know-who. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:20:28 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] what you can do-- please do something njc I tried to watch this the other day but could find no link to the movie & the ones listed (vets for truth, music coop) don't even work... Help?! Randy> A movie called Votergate is being made. The filmakers have released a 30m version of this movie viewable with Quicktime, downloadable here: http://www.votergate.tv/movie_links.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:22:46 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: ticket prices, NJC Judy, whom I have seen and heard perform live seven times -- more than any other major artist -- is coming to Annapolis, Md.'s, Ramshead Tavern Live Onstage on Dec. 2 -- about 60 mi./108 km from me. However, the nominal price of a ticket is $71.50, and tax is additional, and a handling charge for online or telephone purchases (avoidable if purchased at the door, if not sold out) is on top of that, and I shall not be going. Yeah, what's up with that? I would like to go to Judy's holiday show here in Seattle in early December but the tix are $59 each, way above what she was charging just a year ago. I don't get it. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:27:22 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #462 Hi Bryan, Sorry, love, but what exactly is that power you were talking about?...Tell me you were kidding...You weren't, right?:) Love (or money) Nuriel > BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: > Yes, Joni may be laughing all the way to the bank with songwriting and > publishing royalties these days (more power to her, I say), probably as much > or more > than ever. Don't quite understand the question. But yes, I think Joni earning wads of money is a good thing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:58:32 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: votergate njc This link worked for me: http://www.votergate.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:00:13 -0800 From: "Brian Hernandez" Subject: Joni Covers I've been listening to & really enjoying the amazing "Best Of" Joni covers that Bob has put together. It's great to hear Joni's lyrics through another artist's perspective & style. I understand that there are 5 sets of Joni covers (10 volumes in each) available here on the JMDL. I'd like to make copies of all of them. If you have any of those sets, would you contact me and let me know the best way to get them from you. Thanks...Brian We are stardust...come from billion year old carbon We are golden...caught in the devil's bargain And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden - - Joni Mitchell [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:10:01 +0100 From: "FredNow" Subject: Re: :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Price.scr] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:09:57 +0100 From: "Wallykai" Subject: Re: Hello :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of price.scr] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:33:28 -0800 From: "Leslie Neumann" Subject: kink 101.9 With the sun in scorpio, these past few weeks have been an outpouring of media attn to our Joni. First, i spied an interveiw in Vanity Fair. Yesterday, she was featured artist on Kink Radio in Portland Oregon, as voted by their listener's. She was voted # 21 most influencial artist of the past 35 years the station's been on the air. i jumped on the Joni-wagon during the Hejira days. Before that i thought her earlier melodies were a little too "up and down", like Lutheran hymns. Has anyone on this list discussed this topic before? Now, i wldn't chg a thing. In celebration of her birthday i bought a much belated, but long awaited copy of "Blue", and took the road back to hear the story straight from the beginning, straight from the heart. ~L ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #463 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)