From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #436 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 27 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 436 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- who are we now and who we used to be ["dfrench" ] Re: who are we now and who we used to be NJC [Em ] Who, What [Steven Blue ] Re: Today's Library Links: October 26 [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni in current issue of "Vanity Fair" [Jerry Notaro ] Subject: Re: NJC - This is TRULY scary ["Kate Bennett" ] Giving DJRD its due [] Joni-Costello Vanity Fair text ["Michael O'Malley" ] dogs for the deaf njc [colin ] John Peel RIP njc ["Azeem" ] Vanity Fair ["Ahmed Shoukry" ] Re: sacd/dvd audio njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Ani D. Self Evident - VOTE next Tuesday (njc) ["Sue Cameron" ] Presidential Election '04 in USA, njc [] Re: Joni on Miles Davis [] Re: Ani D. Self Evident - VOTE next Tuesday (njc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: John Peel RIP njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] I would steal for Joni... [Catherine McKay ] Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Who is Bush NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc [Catherine McKay ] RE: I would steal for Joni...njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Lunch at Allen's on tour NJC [mags h ] Joni Mitchell's Birthday Tribute [Rdalindley@aol.com] Today's Library Links: October 27 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Tom Waits NJC [Garret ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:03:50 -1000 From: "dfrench" Subject: who are we now and who we used to be im 50ish.....i used to surf every day and hang at the beach....my first job was in a surfboard factory ...now im a design /build contractor in hawaii... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:43:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: who are we now and who we used to be NJC I'm 45, and I'm the same twisted little person I always was. As Janis Joplin said, "its all the same f_cking day man". Em - --- dfrench wrote: > im 50ish.....i used to surf every day and hang at the beach....my > first job > was in a surfboard factory ...now im a design /build contractor in > hawaii... > ===== - ---------- "But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues You can tell by the way she smiles" Bob D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:09:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Blue Subject: Who, What I am 47, a former career Army Officer, now a teacher part time with the State Department and keeping my health in tune in the former east Germany.................... Steven A. Blue Dorfstrasse 17 23923 Gross Neuleben Germany TEL: (011)-49-38821-67139 Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:39:27 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: October 26 And I must quote from the review for all of those who were not able to see this show: Here was an artist who actually made the joint's turgid acoustics work in her favor. Instead of blasting her music into the rafters, she let it float. She didn't so much raise the roof as make it evaporate, replaced by the incense of her fractured jazz chords and the smoke of her mahogany alto. Fabulous show, and great writing! > On October 26 the following article was published: > > > 1998: "Rock review, Joni Mitchell at United Center" - Chicago Tribune > (Review - Concert) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=66 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:08:13 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni in current issue of "Vanity Fair" > Bad news / Good news: > > Bad news: Johnny Dep-Gel is on the cover. How could that ever be bad??!!!!!!!!???????? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:55:13 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Medleyfyin' I9d like to make you all aware of our own David Lahm9s, and his wife, vocalist Judy Kreston, new cd release Medleyfyin9: A Unique Tribute to Richard Rodgers. I may be the Biggest Broadway Queen on the list (OK, except for maybe Roberto and Patrick) and I have actually seen David and Judy perform live (on my 50th birthday trip to NYC.) That particular show was a tribute to David9s mother, the great Dorothy Fields. For those of you who don9t know who she is, shame on you, and proceed to http://www.dorothyfields.co.uk/. I9m going to be much more personal here than I normally would be because many of you know David, and know his Joni Takes On Jazz cd9s. David is very laid back, both as a person, and as a performer. One of the great moments at Pazfest was David quietly playing at the Federation Club, and the normally blasi customers silently walking over to listen and find out who it was. That is David. Of course that doesn9t mean he doesn9t have strong opinions, or can be dictated to. Ask Judy, who says on the cd, 3And we decided, or I should say, David decided...2 when describing the concept of the cd. David not only arranges, accompanies, but is credited as Conceiver. Those who have seen Judy perform, or have met her, know she is the onstage personality, the consummate Cabaret performer. She is articulate, entertaining, and bigger than life. Though this tribute coincides with the 100th centenary of Richard Rodgers birth, for me it is also a perfect companion to last week9s PBS broadcast of the six hour Broadway Musical series. Rodgers played an important part of that series, as well he should have. As important as his songs were to moving the story, they always became huge popular hits on their own, and perfect staples of Cabaret Theatre. David and Judy are not only cornerstones of that particular sector, but quiet champions of the Broadway poorer sister as proprietors of one of New York premiere show places, Judy9s Chelsea. I haven9t been there since it became Helen9s, but it was one classy joint. Medleyfyin9 pairs Rodgers well known Broadway classics from both lyricists Hart and Hammerstein with other pop songs from Noel Coward to Billy Joel. They are: 1. With a Song in My Heart/I Hear Music 2. Love Me Tonight/Let's Take the Long Way Home 3. Unique Tribute 4. Tea for Two/The Blue Room/Two Sleepy People 5. I Cain't Say No/Love Isn't Born/Something's Got to Give 6. My Funny Valentine/Just the Way You Are 7. Why Can't I?/Hey, Love 8. Bridge Over Troubled Waters/You'll Never Walk Alone 9. Happy Talk/If Love Were All 10. Lovely to Look At/There Is Nothing Like a Dame 11. Sweetest Sounds/My Unknown Someone 12. Plant You Now, Dig You Later/Live Alone and Like It 13. Here's That Rainy Day/He Was Too Good to Me 14. It's Love/It's Got to Be Love 15. Cockeyed Optimist 16. Judy Says "Thank You" 17. Tomorrow The cd was wisely recorded live. I can9t imagine 3auteur2 David having it any other way. Judy and David are veterans of this genre, have lived this music for most, and in David9s case, all of his life. This tribute is unique, not only because of the unusual song pairings, but from the unique talents they bring to the project. Judy is in fine voice, her vibrato strong and clear. Live, Judy performs on every inch of the stage. On the recording, she lets the songs perform, simply and clearly. David9s arrangements and playing demonstrate why he is always in demand as an accompanist. Judy luckily has an in. And we, the lucky listeners, have a chance to experience classic singing, patter, and playing which will surely endure another hundred years. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:21:41 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Re: NJC - This is TRULY scary >where Bobby Kennedy galvanized so many people from so many different social strata to support him, Bush has energized those same proportions of the same peoples to vote for "the other guy", whoever that may be, Kerry in this case. Bob < Truly he's been a uniter with so many against him which ironically is one of the few things he said he'd do that he actually has ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:29:22 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Joni in current issue of "Vanity Fair" njc Jerry Notaro wrote: >>Bad news / Good news: >> >>Bad news: Johnny Dep-Gel is on the cover. >> >> > >How could that ever be bad??!!!!!!!!???????? > > > I was thinking the same thing. although not my cup of tea, he is beautiful. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:50:24 +0100 From: colin Subject: sacd/dvd audio njc Have set up my stereo system, new amp and dvd/cd palyer that palys most fomats, and 7 speakers. Have bought on sacd: The Dark Side of The Moon Tubular bells Tapestry The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars and on DVD Audio No Secrets The Green World (Dar Williams) The Beauty of The Rain (Dar Williams) Had thought of buying BSN but since I don't particularly care for it and already have the original releae, didn't. The two Dar ones haev not arrived yet. Of the others, the best sounding are Tapestry, Tubular Bells, and Dark Side on SACD and on DVD audio, No Secrets. I think the set up and these formats do add to the enjoyment of the music. Particularly on No Secrets I can hear stuff I haven't heard before and I have had the album since 74! I had always known Jagger sang on Your So Vain but until this format had not heard him. It can be a bit disconcerting when sounds come from the rear speakers as it can take a while to realise it is part of the cd! The one drawback-watching dvd films or broadcast films in 5.1 DDSS. In order to hear the dialogue, one has to have the volume at a certain level. Fine until music or some other sound effect is let loose and then it is far too loud. Last night I watch Imagining Argentina-I enjoyed it very much, althoug I suppose 'enjoy' isn't the right word considering the tragic events I was watching. Anyway, at one point I jumped and thought 'what the fuck was that' then i realised it was part of the film soundtrack and soemthing the main character was hearing psychically. I also re watched The Sum of All Fears-sound was excellent if too loud and the film itself tho absorbing, unbelievable. Different from many rom-coms, Something's Gotta Give was very enjoyable. Didn't really see the point of it being in 5.1 DDSS. Two other films we thought were crap-Our House with Ben Stiller and Drew barrymore(always watchable) and Secret Window which we gave up with after 20 mins. Now Listenig To -Dogs barking at the loud firwaorks the wnakers in the neighbourhood have been letting off for weeks in the build up to Novemeber 5th and will continue into the New Year. The sooner these are banned the better.Oh, they did pass a new law limiting their use -not allowed between 11pm and 7am. Lot of dam use that is! - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:41:00 -0400 From: Subject: Giving DJRD its due DJRD is getting some respect. McGill's Faculty of Music is recognizing Joni with a symposium. The first panel discussion is entitled "Exploding the Song Cycle: Joni Mitchells Don Juans Reckless Daughter". http://www.mcgill.ca/music/events/jmitchell_symposium/program/ Those of us who love DJRD will raise a glass tomorrow night. (Yo, Mr. Lahm.) All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:50:24 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Joni-Costello Vanity Fair text You'll find the full text of the Joni Vanity Fair interview at this link. A Costello fan transcribed it. Quite interesting to hear that Joni claims she doesn't know any songs on the paino, including her own! Is she being facetious? Sometimes I think maybe she is a kind of vessell or channeler; I think many great artists are. http://elviscostellofans.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3179 Michael in Quebec, on his way to Montreal (Hopefully Joni will show up Wednesday night!) _________________________________________________________________ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:10:36 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Giving DJRD its due > DJRD is getting some respect. McGill's Faculty of Music is > recognizing Joni with a symposium. The first panel > discussion is entitled "Exploding the Song Cycle: Joni > Mitchells Don Juans Reckless Daughter". > http://www.mcgill.ca/music/events/jmitchell_symposium/program/ Look at all these discussions! Sure would be nice to get transcripts of these... Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:54:11 +0100 From: colin Subject: dogs for the deaf njc One of my girls, Napoli, passed her assessment today and has left us to become a Hearing Dog for the deaf. After her training she will live as a deaf person's pet. I am sure MG will aprove. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:18:02 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: John Peel RIP njc As a music lover amongst many music lovers, I couldnt let the passing of John Peel go by without a little mention. He was virtually an institution in British broadcasting, having been a presenter on Radio 1 since its inception in 1967, virtually as long as Ive been alive. Ive never know a radio world without his wry, lugubrious, witty tones. It would be easier to name an influential, cutting edge British singer or band that HADNT been championed by Peel early in their careers than to list the hundreds that had so benefited. When I did student radio back in the 80s, his was the style to which I aspired: genuine enthusiasm for great music, an ability to communicate it without being gushing, and knowing when to shut the f*** up and play the record. He was also at the vanguard of playing US acts like Nirvana, The White Stripes, Laura Cantrell and so on, way before anybody else had picked up on them. I got quite choked up reading some of the tributes to him earlier today. He is irreplaceable. Azeem in London NP: nothing, but Im going to dig out something Peel-associated and play it LOUD! - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 15/10/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:22:14 +0200 From: "Ahmed Shoukry" Subject: Vanity Fair Hi all, I was wondering if someone can send me the scan of the Vanity Fair interview, it sounds really interesting and I really like Costello (and Diana for that matter). thanks, Ahmed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:16:43 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: sacd/dvd audio njc > The one drawback-watching dvd films or broadcast films in 5.1 DDSS. In > order to hear the dialogue, one has to have the volume at a certain > level. Fine until music or some other sound effect is let loose and > then it is far too loud. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has heard this. I hate watching dvds when Travis is in the other room because he usually has the other tv on. I have to turn the sound up to a certain level to hear the dialogue. And then, like you said, Colin, the music is usually too loud and then Travis either complains or turns his tv up and we end up with a volume war. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:29:57 -0400 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: Ani D. Self Evident - VOTE next Tuesday (njc) I am posting these lyrics as I find them to contain a much more powerful message than I ever could. VOTE! Ani DeFranco self evident (inspired by the WTC disaster) yes, us people are just poems we're 90% metaphor with a leanness of meaning approaching hyper-distillation and once upon a time we were moonshine rushing down the throat of a giraffe yes, rushing down the long hallway despite what the p.a. announcement says yes, rushing down the long stairs with the whiskey of eternity fermented and distilled to eighteen minutes burning down our throats down the hall down the stairs in a building so tall that it will always be there yes, it's part of a pair there on the bow of noah's ark the most prestigious couple just kickin back parked against a perfectly blue sky on a morning beatific in its indian summer breeze on the day that america fell to its knees after strutting around for a century without saying thank you or please and the shock was subsonic and the smoke was deafening between the setup and the punch line cuz we were all on time for work that day we all boarded that plane for to fly and then while the fires were raging we all climbed up on the windowsill and then we all held hands and jumped into the sky and every borough looked up when it heard the first blast and then every dumb action movie was summarily surpassed and the exodus uptown by foot and motorcar looked more like war than anything i've seen so far so far so far so fierce and ingenious a poetic specter so far gone that every jackass newscaster was struck dumb and stumbling over 'oh my god' and 'this is unbelievable' and on and on and i'll tell you what, while we're at it you can keep the pentagon keep the propaganda keep each and every tv that's been trying to convince me to participate in some prep school punk's plan to perpetuate retribution perpetuate retribution even as the blue toxic smoke of our lesson in retribution is still hanging in the air and there's ash on our shoes and there's ash in our hair and there's a fine silt on every mantle from hell's kitchen to brooklyn and the streets are full of stories sudden twists and near misses and soon every open bar is crammed to the rafters with tales of narrowly averted disasters and the whiskey is flowin like never before as all over the country folks just shake their heads and pour so here's a toast to all the folks who live in palestine afghanistan iraq el salvador here's a toast to the folks living on the pine ridge reservation under the stone cold gaze of mt. rushmore here's a toast to all those nurses and doctors who daily provide women with a choice who stand down a threat the size of oklahoma city just to listen to a young woman's voice here's a toast to all the folks on death row right now awaiting the executioner's guillotine who are shackled there with dread and can only escape into their heads to find peace in the form of a dream cuz take away our playstations and we are a third world nation under the thumb of some blue blood royal son who stole the oval office and that phony election i mean it don't take a weatherman to look around and see the weather jeb said he'd deliver florida, folks and boy did he ever and we hold these truths to be self evident: #1 george w. bush is not president #2 america is not a true democracy #3 the media is not fooling me cuz i am a poem heeding hyper-distillation i've got no room for a lie so verbose i'm looking out over my whole human family and i'm raising my glass in a toast here's to our last drink of fossil fuels let us vow to get off of this sauce shoo away the swarms of commuter planes and find that train ticket we lost cuz once upon a time the line followed the river and peeked into all the backyards and the laundry was waving the graffiti was teasing us from brick walls and bridges we were rolling over ridges through valleys under stars i dream of touring like duke ellington in my own railroad car i dream of waiting on the tall blonde wooden benches in a grand station aglow with grace and then standing out on the platform and feeling the air on my face give back the night its distant whistle give the darkness back its soul give the big oil companies the finger finally and relearn how to rock-n-roll yes, the lessons are all around us and a change is waiting there so it's time to pick through the rubble, clean the streets and clear the air get our government to pull its big dick out of the sand of someone else's desert put it back in its pants and quit the hypocritical chants of freedom forever cuz when one lone phone rang in two thousand and one at ten after nine on nine one one which is the number we all called when that lone phone rang right off the wall right off our desk and down the long hall down the long stairs in a building so tall that the whole world turned just to watch it fall and while we're at it remember the first time around? the bomb? the ryder truck? the parking garage? the princess that didn't even feel the pea? remember joking around in our apartment on avenue D? can you imagine how many paper coffee cups would have to change their design following a fantastical reversal of the new york skyline?! it was a joke, of course it was a joke at the time and that was just a few years ago so let the record show that the FBI was all over that case that the plot was obvious and in everybody's face and scoping that scene religiously the CIA or is it KGB? committing countless crimes against humanity with this kind of eventuality as its excuse for abuse after expensive abuse and it didn't have a clue look, another window to see through way up here on the 104th floor look another key another door 10% literal 90% metaphor 3000 some poems disguised as people on an almost too perfect day should be more than pawns in some asshole's passion play so now it's your job and it's my job to make it that way to make sure they didn't die in vain sshhhhhh.... baby listen hear the train? - -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Ani D. Self Evident - VOTE next Tuesday (njc) my gawd...... thanks for sharing, I'll have to check that out if I can muster the temerity. Is that on an album? I mean, that ripped my face off. respek, em - --- Sue Cameron wrote: > I am posting these lyrics as I find them to contain a much more > powerful message than I ever could..... ===== - ---------- "But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues You can tell by the way she smiles" Bob D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:24:00 -0400 From: Subject: Presidential Election '04 in USA, njc Here's a quote from Bill Clinton while he was stumping for the Kerry-Edwards ticket. All the best, Lama On the NY Times site today, they said, >Introduced as "the last duly elected president of the United States,'' Mr. Clinton stared out at a sea of souls stretching 12 blocks and said, "If this isn't good for my heart, I don't know what is."> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:55:06 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Joni on Miles Davis Interesting. It reminds me of an article I read in downbeat yesterday. Drummer Bill Bruford wasn't talking about Jazz exclusively but about the difference between recorded performance and recordings as an end to themselves. Near the end he said he's only interested in what happens when two or more people play at the same time. He said when 2 people play, if things go well, a 3rd entity appears called "music". He doesn't hear that when people lay down tracks and hope that music can be added later by a producer. All the best, Jim Mr. Lahm said, >Jazz has given a lot to my life and I will speak up for its integrity the best I can. Play anything you want, but if it doesn't swing, don't call it jazz. Play it but don't call it jazz. Listening to a jazz rhythm section is like looking fascinated into a fire in a fireplace. Listening to most pop music (and all "fusion" music) is like staring, catatonic, at a light bulb.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:01:41 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Ani D. Self Evident - VOTE next Tuesday (njc) **Is that on an album? Yes indeedy, Em...it's on her live "So Much Shouting, So Much Laughter". It'll blow you away on disc as much as it does on the printed page - amazing writing from one of the best writers working today. Face it Em, you're gonna be a huge Ani fan someday, why waste the time - dive in now! Bob NP: Ani, "Make Them Apologize" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:06:57 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: John Peel RIP njc Thanks for mentioning this, Azeem - I had not seen it & as you say Mr. Peel's influence on the world of music can not be underestimated. As for being NJC...not so! Joni appeared on Peel's "Top Gear" show back in 1968 (on my birthday, no less) and performed Night In The City & Cactus Tree with The John Cameron Orchestra behind her. Great stuff. Bob NP: Bob Dylan, Floater (Too Much To Ask) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: I would steal for Joni... ...and I did. I took my daughter to the podiatrist today. She needed urgent surgery for an ingrown toenail. Laugh if you will, but if you've ever had that, you know how painful it can be and that it has to be dealt with. While we were waiting, Sarah picked up a magazine and started looking through it. It's Flare magazine, Canada's own snooty fashionista magazine that tries to appeal to the under-30 single female with a lot of money (or credit) to spend on overpriced fashionably uncomfortable shoes that cause ingrown toenails. It's the September issue and an article was about the x-number of people you would invite to dinner. It featured horribly drawn caricatures of a number of mostly, if not all, Canadian famous types including kd lang, Leonard Cohen, a number of people no one outside Canada is likely to have heard of... and Joni Mitchell. I shall transcribe it later on, when I get the time and the inclination and can scan the illustrations as well (unfortunately the main illustration, although very large, goes across two pages, so there will likely be a visible fold line, but Joni isn't on the fold). Les, Mr Webmaster, sir, if you're paying attention, let me know how best I can get this stuff to you. Bear in mind we are dealing with stolen goods, but after what the podi charged me to deal with the surgery, and that my insurance plan covers only a small portion of this, I can rationalize this ripoff in the name of Joni. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:10:53 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc Catherine rationalizes: << I can rationalize this ripoff in the name of Joni. >> Catherine, you can rationalize this theft until the mooses come home, but stealing is stealing ... which means a lifetime in hell for your immortal soul. Or don't you believe in damnation? - --Smurf "Don't I look just like Liza when I open my eyes real wide like this?" - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:13:40 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Who is Bush NJC http://www.bushisantichrist.com/ Now that is scary, complete with creepy music. I can't tell if this site is a joke or sincere, but it builds an interesting case. I don't believe in the anti-Christ idea, but I do believe Bush is wicked. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:19:50 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc I wrote: << a lifetime in hell for your immortal soul. >> Sorry. I meant "an eternity." - --Smurf "I wish I could shimmy like my sister Kate." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:01:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc Gov. Smurf/Liza wrote: > Catherine rationalizes: > > << I can rationalize this ripoff in the name of > Joni. >> > > > Catherine, you can rationalize this theft until the > mooses come home, but > stealing is stealing ... which means a lifetime in > hell for your immortal soul. > Or don't you believe in damnation? > > --Smurf > Damnation? Meh! Looking forward to it, actually. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:03:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I would steal for Joni... -- njc --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > I wrote: > > << a lifetime in hell for your immortal soul. >> > > Sorry. I meant "an eternity." > Eternity. Lifetime. What's the diff? Some *days* feel like an eternity in hell. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:16:36 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni on Miles Davis Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Jazz has given a lot to my life and I will speak up for its integrity > the > best I can. Play anything you want, but if it doesn't swing, don't > call it jazz. Play it but don't call it jazz. In the liner notes to 'Sing a Song of Basie' it says that Dave Lambert and Jon Hendricks originally conceived of the record as a transcription of Count Basie's music to vocal parts for a large choir. They hired studio singers, people who sang on jingles and in the choruses of various television shows to perform on the record. At one point they asked Annie Ross to come in and coach the singers but she said it was hopeless because there was no way you could teach these people how to swing. They did fine backing Perry Como but they couldn't sing jazz. They couldn't swing. In the end they had to start all over from scratch, using just their three voices multi-tracked to emulate the various sections of the Basie band. The result is quite wonderful, by the way. I am eternally grateful to Joni for turning me on to LR&H. >Listening to a jazz rhythm section is like looking fascinated into a fire in >a fireplace. Listening to most pop music (and all "fusion" music) is like >staring, catatonic, at a light bulb. I recently managed to get hold of another recording called 'Sing Along With Basie' that features Lambert, Hendricks and Ross with Joe Williams and Count Basie and the entire Basie band (Sing a Song of Basie only featured the Basie rhythm section - LR&H sang all the other instrument's parts). After listening to that one a few times, I think I understand what David et al mean by swinging. I also think I have some understanding of what you mean by the difference between listening to a jazz rhythm section and listening to pop music. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:33:19 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: I would steal for Joni...njc that's exactly what i always have in mind cath adored one w > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > Catherine McKay > Enviado el: Martes, 26 de Octubre de 2004 10:31 p.m. > Para: Jonilist > Asunto: I would steal for Joni... > > > Bear > in mind ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:26 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni on Miles Davis jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > Interesting. It reminds me of an article I read in downbeat > yesterday. Drummer Bill Bruford wasn't talking about Jazz > exclusively but about the difference between recorded performance and > recordings as an end to themselves. > > Near the end he said he's only interested in what happens when two or > more people play at the same time. He said when 2 people play, if > things go well, a 3rd entity appears called "music". > > He doesn't hear that when people lay down tracks and hope that music > can be added later by a producer. > Don't you think it has something to do with pop music being mostly a backdrop for a vocal track? The instrumental music isn't supposed to stand out. The singer is. Whereas in jazz, even when there's a singer, the music shines. As Brubeck says, the interaction is the point. A good jazz singer can become another instrument in the ensemble, not just the star soloist. What I find so cool about LR&H is that they admired the music so much that they wanted to sing it the way the instruments played it. Listen to some of Billie Holiday's early recordings with Lester Young and some of Basie's other sidemen. She's another instrument in the ensemble and each part is interesting and intricate in and of itself. But it's the interaction that makes up the beautiful whole that really counts. I love the interplay between a good jazz vocalist and a good jazz ensemble. But on a pop record the whole point is to put across the vocal. The instrumental is only there to make the singer sound good. That's what I think, anyway. Thinking doesn't make things so. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: Lunch at Allen's on tour NJC Just returned from a magical night at the West End Cultural Centre (Garnet Rogers was recently there, Loreena McKennitt, etc etc....do a google to find it ... and bonus...it's not far from home, here in balmy Winnipeg (really, we've got double digits on the side of positive here for a few days woohoo) alas, I digress...Im higher than a kite with pride having listened to nearly three solid hours of Canadian landscape. If you want to know what the history of folk music in Canada is all about, do attend one of the concerts..now on tour (pronounced 'tore' in Canada ;-)) The little blurb below scratches only the surface of what this unbelievable evening was all about. Individually, the musicians have a massive portfolio. I must say that I was most touched by Marc Jordan, who is the sweetest thing, and Murray McLachlan..well he personifies so much of what it is to 'be' Canadian , a musician ... oh Im speechless. You can buy this wonderful CD or DVD for a song, literally. Lots of tears of joy, Ive not laughed so much at a concert in many a day...and then they turned around and had us all in their hands with soulful lyrics ... oh just go out and get it already ;-) They are going across Canada twice, and Im sure you wont soon forget . The evening opened with Marc Jordan performing his very own Marina del Rey, and things exploded from there, say no more. thank you to one the many angels lighting up my life for this wonderful birthday present. npimh: rhythm of my heart, also Marc Jordan http://www.livetourartists.com/lunch-at-allens/ Allen's in Toronto, on Davenport (i think) is a spin off of Joe Allen's which used to be in the downtown area...near Roy Thomson Hall for all of you Canuckians out there...Joe Allen of course is or at least was a fine little place somewhere in NYC...anyone know about it? please cc me on your replies, as I am on Joni only for the time being . http://www.wecc.ca/ (link to the West End here in town) .. reminds me of Hugh's Room in Toronto, (hi Catherine, who seems to be noticeably absent from the list ;-)) night, from the Phoenix rising ;-))) if you've had a kindness shown, pass it on. Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:49:38 EDT From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: Joni Mitchell's Birthday Tribute Due to sellout crowds, popular demand and Joni's Birthday Foiled Again has added one more show. An evening of song to celebrate Joni's life and amazing career. Sunday, November 7 @ 8:00 PM come early for a yummy dinner Big Yellow Taxi * A Case of You * Woodstock * Circle Game * Raised on Robbery Speakeasy Supper Club 1401 W Devon call 773-338-0600 reservations are STRONGLY recommended $12 cover charge BYOB "The tight, three-part harmonies of this amazing trio - which is one of the finest vocal collaborations in this city - make Mitchell's melodies soar, and the engaging texture of their individual performances are irresistible" - Gay Chicago Magazine 2003 After Dark Award Winners "Highly Recommended" - Chicago Sun-Times www.speakeasysupperclub.com Parking is available and there's a great wine store across the street. Foiled Again is Anne Sheridan Smith Allison Bazarko Rob Lindley with the fantastic Doug Peck on piano [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ygpD027.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:33:10 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: October 27 On October 27 the following articles were published: 1994: "They Repaved Paradise" - New York Daily News http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=218 1999: "Mitchell Completes Album Of Standards" - Billboard http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=436 2002: "Graham Nash talks about the moment " - NPR Weekend Edition Sunday http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=975 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:46:42 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Tom Waits NJC From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > > > NP: Tom Waits, "Make It Rain" (in no one else spinning his new masterpiece?) Oh yea; another excellent album! The man is on top form the last few years. GARRET NP- Franz Ferdinand, Michael - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #436 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)