From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #390 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, September 26 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 390 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- jet engiones njc ["Ron" ] cd baby sale - any recomendations njc ["Ron" ] Re: The Musical Journey Continues [Seulbzzaj@aol.com] Re: The Musical Journey Continues [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: rock the vote a la joni NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: rock the vote a la Joni NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] shadows & light dvd ["Ron" ] Re: cd baby sale - any recomendations njc [Em ] Re: Jaco Pastorius, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" [Michael Paz ] Kirsti MacColl (SJC) ["Timothy Spong" ] (NJC) Boycott For Equality, October 8, 2004 ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Jaco Pastorius, njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: more love, laura Love! njc [Em ] Rebecca De Mornay At The Marilyn Monroe Theatre (NJC) ["Vadim Litvin" ] Re: Joni needs a lyricist [Randy Remote ] Re: The Musical Journey Continues ["Kakki" ] Re: The Musical Journey Continues [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Musical Journey Continues ["Kakki" ] RE: cat stevens NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] I caught you knockin' -- njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] nice JM picture [Moni Kellermann ] Today's Library Links: September 26 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:45:52 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: jet engiones njc hi "the drone of flying engines, is a song so wild & blue it scrambles time & seasons, if it gets thru to you" unless you live somewhere near an airfield having an airshow, then it just becomes a real pain in the arse..... ron np - some frigging jet making irritating unromantic sounds. repeatedly. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:50:10 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: cd baby sale - any recomendations njc hi cdbaby is currently having a five dollar sale and have a hige selection. trouble is - never heard of any of them, & their reviews make them all sound so interesting.... does anyone out there have any recomendations????? ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:15:24 EDT From: Seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Re: The Musical Journey Continues > << Ultimately, she was not tough enough. "Everything in my later career, > with few exceptions, has been compared unfavorably to my early work," she says > matter-of-factly. "I've done 16 records hearing people say, 'You're not as > good as you used to be. Finally, I said, 'OK, I agree with you.' " >> Now, THAT's really sad. To think that so many of Joni's so called fans view her as some sort of nostalgia act is sickening. Here she was, in the last 10 years, creating the best things she has ever done, and most of it has been met with indifference, and was being unfavorably compared to her earlier work. I hate to think that she would react to such nonsense. Yet, it must be extremely frustrating to have created such great works, and to hear that crap. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:23:38 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Musical Journey Continues **"I've done 16 records hearing people say, 'You're not as > good as you used to be. Finally, I said, 'OK, I agree with you.' " >> Now, THAT's really sad.** True, but do you REALLY think anyone actually said those exact words to Joni? And even if they did (or she read them in a review or something), how do you rationalize the decision in context of her saying that she DOESN'T create to be popular? It comes off as being a bit hypocritical; it's hard to have it both ways. If Court & Spark happens along at just the time when pop music is veering into jazz-oriented sounds, great, especially when it's what Joni was wanting to do. But when she's led to do Don Juan or Mingus or Taming The Tiger and it doesn't intersect with the zeitgeist in the same way, it's still what she wants to do regardless of how the public perceives it, right? Should she judge the success of the project based on how it's received, or what SHE thinks? Not that I have any problem with her retirement - she's given us a depth of craft unmatched by anyone, and if she wants to explore other things in her life that's cool. But I'm not on board with this rationalization by way of such negativity, not when I see so many other artists carrying on without worrying about what the critics or the fan-on-the-street has to say. Bob NP: Kirke, "Little Green" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:05:47 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: rock the vote a la joni NJC **NPIMH: "Keep on livin' in the free world" (or whatever the title is of Neil Young's song that plays at the end of Fahrenheit 9/11) Patti, It's "Rockin' In The Free World" from Young's 'Freedom' album, one of his best if I do say so. His cover of "On Broadway" blows me away everytime. He does both the electric version (the one Moore used) and an acoustic one as well, they're the bookends for the album. An interesting story: Moore originally wanted to use Pete Townsend's "Won't Get Fooled Again" for the closer since that was bungling Bush's final statement, but Pete wasn't interested and apparantly Moore gave him a real hard time about it, saying he was on Bush's side and all. Pete did not have good things to say about Michael Moore, fwiw. Anyway, can't wait to November when we can all be Rockin' In The Free World once again, or at least on a better path to being there. Bob NP: Fabio Ranza & Elisabetta Zamberlan, "A Case Of You" (in a word....WOW) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:50:47 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: rock the vote a la Joni NJC **That's OK. Pete's busy with his Pedophiles for Bush website! And all this time I thought he preferred his pictures of Lily! Bob NP: Joni w/Pete Seeger, "Mr. Tambourine Man" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:39:01 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: shadows & light dvd hi i picked up the dvd at a local shop today - couldnt believe it - a real consumer type shop & there was joni........... i started watching it, and just had to take a break & try let something about how i feel out. ive always loved the album, rated it as my all time best ever. but seeing joni, seeing the depth of emotion, fragility, and feeling. seeing her singing amelia has just absolutely bowled me over. she walked off stage after singing it - im not surprised. i just sat, totally stunned, during pat's solo, noty even noticing it, paused the disc, then spent some time walking around my flat, just gathering myself. i am not surprised joni feels like people are turning on her ("I've done 16 records hearing people say, 'You're not as good as you used to be. Finally, I said, 'OK, I agree with you.' " ) she puts so much into her performance, makes it so real, so intimate, so absolutely naked, that it aint gonna take much to hurt so deeply. im the first to admit i dont hav emuch experience of life performances, or dvds of them, but i have never seen so much intense involvement in a song. i just wish i could describe how i feel................ ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: cd baby sale - any recomendations njc OMG! LOL! was just looking in the $5 sale section of "Folk" and they have a "LIKE JONI" section. made me nearly spew me coffee.... :) Have fun Ron! Em - --- Ron wrote: > hi > > > cdbaby is currently having a five dollar sale and have a hige > selection. > > trouble is - never heard of any of them, & their reviews make them > all sound > so interesting.... > > does anyone out there have any recomendations????? > > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:32:16 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius, njc The article Dark Days for a Jazz Genius said: One way or another, he blocked those with the best intentions, including his ex-wife Ingrid. "It's been a long stretch of sadness," she said last week. "But I always felt he was playing out a need that was uniquely his. He was fulfilling something in himself that no one else can understand, because it comes from his isolated personal experience, Hi Kate (and all who are intested in this thread), This struck me in what was written about Jaco Pastorius. He didn't block anybody... his disease did. He longed for everybody. Those who see through the same eyes as Jaco, people who have the same disease, can understand. Isolated personal experience... try isolated person. The disease of alcoholism wants it's victims all to itself... isolated. Isolated and eventually on the streets... I can understand why he was on the streets. I would actually like to be there myself. That is the best expression of what the experience of alcoholism is on the inside. A totally 'relaxed' alcoholic is on the streets drinking. In a very real sense, I'm always on the streets in my mind. Nothing of what is around me makes any sense in that light. So, I live in guilt and fear in my misperception. Alcoholism is a disease of perception. We are egomaniacs with an inferiority complex. That is what keeps us on the streets... we are too proud to leave them, and we eventually lose our minds out there so we can't. Coincidentally, I watched Shadows and Light last night so Jaco was fresh in my mind when I read the article (http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=924). Shadows and Light... alcoholism. Alcoholics end up seeming manic depressive when we drink. We laugh about how we are diagnosed with so many mental illnesses before the underlying disease of alcoholism is diagnosed. Judy Collins' autobiography talks about how many psychiatrists she went to and how she never got any better until one refused to be her doctor unless she got off alcohol. Once she faced her alcoholism, she got better. I can't believe I'm not where Jaco is. I'm so grateful for my sponsor and AA. The depth of me making that phone call to AA and finally going to a face to face meeting 13 months ago seems greater and greater as I realize more and more the gravity of this disease I have. I have. I don't want to have it. I'm sick of having it. I'm one of the living dead which isn't a bad thing because at least I'm alive. One of the grateful living dead... By all means, I should be drinking. As the saying goes, birds fly, fish swim, and alcoholics drink. Why have I made it to sobriety and Jaco didn't? That is always the question we alcoholics ask when we hear of our fellows who die of our disease. The only way we can understand it is that some have to die so the rest of us can live. I am deeply moved to now know how Jaco died. It matters greatly to me and helps me to be willing to go to any lengths to stay sober. I had a long talk with my sponsor last night. Today I'm taking my sponsee to a meeting. No time to be in my own head today. Self knowledge can't keep me sober. Staying out of the confines of my own head and maintaining habits like going to meetings and calling my sponsor, etc. does. It is a spiritual experience for me if I don't pick up a drink. Jaco is part of that spiritual experience for me today. I'm grateful to Les for pointing me to this article; I'm grateful for this awesome list. Thanks you! I hope your Beatles tribute is the best ever Kate! Enjoy! All my love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:36:21 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" Lahm Hope you have a wonderful gig! I wish that I could be there. I am planning a trip to NYC for New Years with the family and some other friends. I will let you know so we can see if you are playing somewhere while we are there. Also RED ALERT Honduran Fertility Goddess (the Kayzoo Indian woman) and all other New Yorkers. **THE HONDURANS ARE COMING!!!!!!!** Best Paz > I waited until we rehearsed it so I could be sure I want to go ahead with it. > > It's a little outside, but yes, I hear the tune. The jazz reference is > Ornette Coleman, someone I've never applied to JM's music before. > > We'll also be doing customized versions of "All the Things You Are," "Blues > in the Night," and six of my original jazz compositions. > > Here are the details: > > DAVID LAHM SEPTET > > SUNDAY, OCTOBER 3 7pm > > WestBank Cafe (downstairs) 407 W 42nd Street NY NY > (just W of 9th Av) > > Music Charge: $10 Reservations: 212/695-6909 > > drinks available food upstairs on street level ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:05:55 +0000 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Joni needs a lyricist Randy Remote wrote: briangross@rocketmail.com wrote: >-------------------- >Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues >-------------------- > >By Robert Hilburn >Los Angeles Times > >September 24, 2004 > >LOS ANGELES -- " >Yes, she confides, she still strums the guitar and noodles with new >melodies, but no more lyrics for her. Hmmm....missed that the first time around. Joni, sounds like all you need is a lyricist. Ironic, for one of the best lyricists of all time! RR .. and then, Emiliano wrote: Very good your idea, Randy, about Joni needing a lyricist... she herself tell us how painful writing a lyric can be (specially in these convulsed times). Just tell Joni if her next album of standards could be with a quartet, please[.] Tim chimes in: Interesting. On the Joan [Baez] List, to which I also subscribe, I have learned that Joan B., who once wrote songs (including a whole album's worth: "Gulf Winds"), has retired from doing "things that are difficult," including writing songs, but continues to write poetry. Some poetry can be song lyrics, obviously. Now here, in principle, would be a chance to come full circle: Joni M., as we all know, set out by imitating Joan B. and Judy Collins. While Judy returned the compliment by recording four of Joni's songs, Joan hasn't recorded any. Yet [again, gleaned from the other list], Joan is said to admire Joni, plays either "Turbulent Indigo" or "Taming the Tiger" on the tour bus and sings along with it, and engaged Joni to sing background on one recording -- "Dida," I believe it's called. This despite the fact that there was once, apparently, some bad blood between Joni and Joan, as well as between Joni and Judy. So, would not some new songs -- lyrics by Joan Chandos Baez, music by Roberta Joan "Joni" Anderson Mitchel --, potentially be a match made in heaven? Especially because Joan B. is still touring and recording and Joni M. is not. Of course, such a collaboration would reinforce the casual listeners' image of Joni as a "folk" musician, a category which Joan has moved beyond, as well, though to a leser extent -- but let it be. There's a fan base there. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:14:19 +0000 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Kirsti MacColl (SJC) wrote: Subject: Kirsty MacColl (was Karen O'Brien's Bio) If I had the chance, I'd remind Kristy [typo in original] MacColl (in a nice way) that she HAS received a ton from Joni. Kirsty didn't give an unrequited gift. Kirsty was able to give something BACK and many of us would love to have that opportunity. When I had a chance, I gave Mike Timmins a photo of Margo and thanked him for all of the stories through the years. It meant more to me to give something back than to bug him for an autograph, eh? Lama, "llama emeritus" of the Cowboy Junkies' community PS, I did bug Margo for a photo, though! Did I mention that Margo Timmins has adopted a toddler? "And the seasons / they go..." Perhaps Lamadoo and/or others is/are unaware that Kirsty MacColl is no longer with us -- then, again, "If I had the chance ..." may mean he is. I think it was around Christmas 2002 that Kirsty, swimming while vacationing somewhere in Mexico or Central America, was struck and killed by a speedboat. The silver lining, if any, was that her children, also present, were uninjured, and Kirsty probably didn't suffer as the result probably was instantaneous. This incident, of course, tragically echoes what happened to Loreena McKennitt's fiance, about which I posted some time back when L.M. came up as a subject of discussion. As far as I know, L.M. has released no new material since. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. Use tim_spong@yahoo.com for off-list correspondence, please. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:09:19 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: (NJC) Boycott For Equality, October 8, 2004 Thanks for this info lori... I intend to do all but the first one... I am delighted & proud to be working for one of the largest employers in my town & their benefits package offers medical etc to domestic partners... so I intend to go to work that day... 1) Stay home from work. Do not generate payroll taxes, income taxes or add to the economy. If you run a business, let your customers know by closing for the day. 2) Withdraw $80 from your bank account at an ATM. 3) Don't shop. Do not generate sales tax or business revenue. 4) Hang up your cell phone. Your silence will affect your whole communications network. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:12:59 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: more love, laura Love! njc After hearing her live I listened to octoroon which paled by comparison which leads me to again say you MUST see laura love in person as she is a bundle of joyful energy & fire... she has a fabulous woman violin/fiddle player that performs with her named barbara... lamb? I think... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:22:04 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Jaco Pastorius, njc Mary Gauthier has this line in one of her songs, I did not realize it was an old saying. thanks for the great post laura! Laura >As the saying goes, birds fly, fish swim, and alcoholics drink< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: more love, laura Love! njc Hi Kate I like the words you used to describe Laura - "a bundle of joyful energy & fire". So apt! I'm trying to think of a word to add to that which would describe another fascinating aspect of her - and that is the way she jumps so seamlessly between "types" of music and integrates them as commonly human. Rather than making different genres into "ditches" and something to be overcome, she uses her roping in of the genres to "unite" us. Her work is helpful. Right now, for me the "joyful" part is a particular blessing. Have plans to see her in November at a 2 day festival. Also will get to see Fred Eaglesmith! Can't wait to see Laura in action. Thanks again to Lori for letting me know about the upcoming show. :) Em - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > After hearing her live I listened to octoroon which paled by > comparison > which leads me to again say you MUST see laura love in person as she > is a > bundle of joyful energy & fire... she has a fabulous woman > violin/fiddle > player that performs with her named barbara... lamb? I think... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:26:36 +0400 (MSD) From: "Vadim Litvin" Subject: Rebecca De Mornay At The Marilyn Monroe Theatre (NJC) If you love Rebecca - please, look at this: http://www.strasberg.com/hollywood/viewheadline.php?id=2742 If you will be there - PLEASE, let me know!!!! Anybody? Regards, Vad (in Ukraine) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 14:49:29 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: cat stevens NJC >I also know of several people who fly regularly > (musicians) have had some god awful experiences on the airlines... I wonder if musicians have been, or might be lobbying, for a better system for transporting their instruments and equipment. Maybe the solution could be as simple as the airlines providing or making available some kind of secure and environmentally appropriate casing or trunks during the flight. > one of them, a young female folk singer was arrested after she bought a seat ticket > in order to bring her guitar on board & then the airline wouldn't let her > have it in the seat which she had a right to... Did the airline mislead her by selling her a seat ticket knowing it was for the guitar? > long story short they > demanded she get off the plane (this was a connecting flight she was far > from home or where she was going), when she begged them not to (why should > she have to leave?), they immediately arrested her, threw her to the ground > & cuffed her, left her guitar on the tarmac & drove her to the station... That's terrible. If the airline initially misled her about letting the guitar sit in the seat, she should make a complaint. Kakki "Please stow all personal items securely under the seat in front of you or in the overhead bin. Your personal instrument could become a dangerous or lethal projectile under certain conditions." --Gov. Jim McGreevey - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:49:10 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni needs a lyricist Timothy Spong wrote: > >Yes, she confides, she still strums the guitar and noodles with new > >melodies, but no more lyrics for her. > I have learned that Joan B., who once wrote songs (including a > whole album's worth: "Gulf Winds"), has retired from doing "things that are > difficult," including writing songs, but continues to write poetry. Some > poetry can be song lyrics, obviously. Now here, in principle, would be a > chance to come full circle: Joni M., I like it. Joan who is called Joanie with Joni who is called Joan, rolled together as one. But how to credit? Mitchell/Baez or Baez/Mitchell? On the other hand, I would buy an instrumental album by Joni anytime. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:41:13 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: The Musical Journey Continues Hi Bob and hope you are having a great birthday weekend! You wrote: > True, but do you REALLY think anyone actually said those exact words to > Joni? I think it is highly possible that some people have indeed said those exact words to her personally and I know variations of the same have been said in reviews and in the discussion list. >And even if they did (or she read them in a review or something), how do > you rationalize the decision in context of her saying that she DOESN'T create > to be popular? It comes off as being a bit hypocritical; it's hard to have it > both ways. There is the possibility that she has come to believe it herself. Most artists, especially the great ones, are very sensitive people - emotionally, spiritually and physiologically - that what makes their art great, but it is also a two-edged sword because that vulnerability can't just be shut off in part to filter out negativity. They don't "toughen up" very well, or if they do, the sensitivity becomes dulled and the flow becomes blocked or shut off. When the knife goes in the wound tends to continue bleeding rather than scarring over. > If Court & Spark happens along at just the time when pop music is > veering into jazz-oriented sounds, great, especially when it's what Joni was > wanting to do. I happened to hear Larry Carlton last weekend as the guest dj on a local jazz station. It was an incredible show. He talked all about his career and spun the favorite songs he had played on. Course he talked about Joni, Steely Dan and the Crusaders. He said Joni had come into a club in Hollywood where he and Tom Scott and band were playing and she immediately fell in love with their sound and wanted them to collaborate with her. Carlton's fave Joni song is "Help Me" and he explained how the sounds on that song and the album were something quite new and musically progressive at the time. > But when she's led to do Don Juan or Mingus or Taming The > Tiger and it doesn't intersect with the zeitgeist in the same way, it's still > what she wants to do regardless of how the public perceives it, right? Should > she judge the success of the project based on how it's received, or what SHE > thinks? She got roundly skewered in the reviews of those albums and they didn't sell well. While I believe that is no reason to throw in the creative towel, if you get enough rejection of your work after awhile doing something you feel is worthy, there comes a point where you may not want to subject yourself to the pain of rejection anymore. Only human. > Not that I have any problem with her retirement - she's given us a depth of > craft unmatched by anyone, and if she wants to explore other things in her > life that's cool. I like the idea of her maybe colloborating musically with other artists at this point. Her work on the Brian Blade album was gorgeous and unique. >But I'm not on board with this rationalization by way of such > negativity, not when I see so many other artists carrying on without > worrying about what the critics or the fan-on-the-street has to say. What other artists? One's who are famously well-known and whose later work at some point has been publically criticized and rejected by the buying public? I know what you are saying, but I can also see her not wanting to bang up against that wall anymore. Kakki - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:22:20 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Musical Journey Continues **What other artists? One's who are famously well-known and whose later work at some point has been publically criticized and rejected by the buying public? Hi Kakki - thanks so much for your comments, and thanks mostly for understanding that I wasn't being critical of Joni but rather trying to reconcile what I see as a dichotomy between what Joni says about her music and the way she responds to the public's acceptance and/or non-acceptance of it. I guess the 'other artists' I'm thinking of are people like Tom Waits & Elvis Costello, Rickie Lee Jones, artists who have been around since the 70's and don't seem phased one way or the other about whether they're popular or not. I'm sure there are others as well. Joni is a very complicated person...that's part of what makes her so fascinating ultimately. She's certainly not removed from the game in terms of age; even Dylan is still going strong, and in the jazz world (where she probably is best identified) she's plenty young. When she casts herself in the pop arena it's a different story, but why should she do that? If the covers project has taught me anything, it's that she's more identified as a jazz composer than a pop song tunesmith. Thanks too for the birthday wishes; the weather here is SO perfect, I actually ENJOYED being on the roof today cleaning out gutters. It's been a great day, and particularly a good weekend for me as my son is excited about being accepted into a fraternity (SAE) and was selected as one of 8 out of 300 freshman at Wofford College to have lunch with the President of the College and Orson Scott Card (author of Ender's Game) based on the essay he wrote about the book. Bob NP: Joni, "Banquet" (with a dedication to you, Kakki as it's from your fave Joni album) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:10:21 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: The Musical Journey Continues > I guess the 'other artists' I'm thinking of are people like Tom Waits & > Elvis Costello, Rickie Lee Jones, artists who have been around since the 70's and > don't seem phased one way or the other about whether they're popular or not. > I'm sure there are others as well. You make an excellent case here, Bob, submitting key, on-point exhibits A, B, and C! ;-) >When she casts herself in the pop arena > it's a different story, but why should she do that? If the covers project > has taught me anything, it's that she's more identified as a jazz composer than > a pop song tunesmith. Yes, that's true - the two prime jazz stations in L.A. (who are pretty fussy about who gets played) play recent Joni (and collaborative Eastwood, Blade and Hancock) work fairly regularly. > Thanks too for the birthday wishes; the weather here is SO perfect, I > actually ENJOYED being on the roof today cleaning out gutters. Sounds lovely - but I hope Ms. Jeanne doesn't come by to visit anytime soon, though! > It's been a great day, and particularly a good weekend for me as my son is excited about being > accepted into a fraternity (SAE) and was selected as one of 8 out of 300 > freshman at Wofford College to have lunch with the President of the College and > Orson Scott Card (author of Ender's Game) based on the essay he wrote about the > book. That's wonderful! SAE was the most popular fraternity (with the cutest guys and best parties) when I was at ASU ;-) > NP: Joni, "Banquet" (with a dedication to you, Kakki as it's from your fave > Joni album) Thank you! I'm off to hunker down with the Weather Channel and cable news for yet ANOTHER hurricane watch - sigh. Hang in there you all! Kakki - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:31:33 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: cat stevens NJC > I wonder if musicians have been, or might be lobbying, for a better system for transporting their instruments and equipment. Maybe the solution could be as simple as the airlines providing or making available some kind of secure and environmentally appropriate casing or trunks during the flight. Yes the local 100 union has been somewhat successful & there is a form you can take with you to prove that this has been negotiated... unfortunately it is not anything that they have to honor & federal regs superceed it anyway... the real solution is for musicians who travel to purchase a calton case for their guitar... for me, I know longer fly with my taylor & in fact my travel guitar costs less than the case itself > Did the airline mislead her by selling her a seat ticket knowing it was for the guitar? According to the agreement I mentioned, musicians are supposed to be able to board with their instruments... in reality the airlines can insist you buy a seat in order to board with it... I guess that is what cello players must do... the thing I have discovered is that each person along the line, from the ticket person to the xray person to the boarding gate person to the onboard personel has a different idea of what they allow... there is nothing uniform which is why the calton case is imo the only option... > That's terrible. If the airline initially misled her about letting the guitar sit in the seat, she should make a complaint. The story she told was really much more that that & my jaw was on the floor... it was terrible you are right... I think she is beyond complaint & going to sue... they really went beyond what they needed to do especially in how they tackled her etc... I can't imagine how stressful it must be to work in the airlines & onboard these days... still this story was the most outrageous one I'd ever heard... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:59:15 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: I caught you knockin' -- njc Hey, you! I caught you knocking at the cellar door of that wasp infested place with the plumbing problems and the absentee landlord! But we all know it's because Sunday is VICTOR the VICTROLA LA LA LA's birthday, which means that you -- like everyone else -- want to wish him a happy one. Happy birthday, Victor! You're still rocking our Free World and our Sugar Mountain, even if you're not 20 anymore. Now go sing yourself that dirty little birthday song you sing. Then sit back and read all the birthday tributes from your many fans. - --Smurf, creating McGreevey quotations since July of 2004 ... and now working in the birthday mines as the sometime birthday gnome thanks to Sigmund in Argentina and Jeanne in Florida. And the fact is, I wouldn't have even known about these BDs if it hadn't been for MRS. JODY JOHNSON, friend of birthday boys Bob Muller and John van Tiel, and wife of Victor Johnson and That Guy. A tip of my gnarly and gnomey cap to MRS. JODY JOHNSON, who's wearing her dresses way too high. "Before getting together for the big game, I like to sit down for a nice big tube steak." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:02:38 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: nice JM picture That LA Times story seems to be showing up everywhere: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=1458&u_sid=1212846 But at least it has a nice photo of Joni, surrounded by her paintings: http://debab.omaha.com/np_0/large/924sqmitchell.jpg moni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 02:01:08 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 26 On September 26 the following articles were published: 1987: "Jazz Musicians Honor Electric Bass Great Pastorius With Musical Funeral" - Associated Press (Mention) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1095 1997: "Pass the Salt, Please" - JMDL (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=171 1998: "Mitchell Brings Perspective and Wit to 'Taming the Tiger'" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=152 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #390 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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