From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #389 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 25 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 389 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Covers Volumes 21 - 30 [Melissa ] how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" [Emiliano ] Re: jazz concert includes" Sweet Bird" [Jerry Notaro ] Re: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues [briangross@rocketmail.com] Artwork for Joni's shows [Emiliano ] ebay update (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Whenever love comes around .... njc ["Kate Bennett" ] cat stevens njc ["Kate Bennett" ] cat stevens NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues [Randy Remote ] Re: Kirsty MacColl [Gertus@aol.com] RE: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc ["Richard Flynn"] Re: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc ["Donna Binkley"] Librarian's Alert - NJC ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] (NJC) Boycott For Equality, October 8, 2004 [Lori Fye ] Re: more love, laura Love! njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: more love, laura Love! njc [Em ] Re: Artwork for Joni's shows [Catherine McKay ] Re: cat stevens NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues [Emiliano ] Re: Artwork for Joni's shows [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: ebay update (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Kirsty MacColl (was Karen O'Brien's Bio) [] Re: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" [] Today's Library Links: September 25 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:26:01 +1000 From: Melissa Subject: Joni Covers Volumes 21 - 30 Hi everyone I have Joni Covers volumes 21 - 30. Happy to post to the first to respond. Refer to the jmdl website http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm to see what's on the volumes. Melissa in Sydney, Australia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:08:13 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc Is it "haaappy birthtaaag?" Who knows! Well, John van Tiel knows, and that's for sure. Fact is, he celebrates his 50th birthday today -- a feat of McKayean longevity! So joni us all in wishing everybody's favorite Dutch uncle a ... what? Let's just call it a "happy birthday." He'll understand. Happy birthday, John! - --Smurf "I love the nightlife, I got to boogie 'til the dawn's early light." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:36:10 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" Oh, David! How I wish I could travel now to that Great city of yours! I'm sure your shows will be a huge success. I think I can easily (and joyfully) imagine Sweet Bird being played by Ornette Coleman... indeed! That's what the people going to your shows will listen... and other covers & your own compositions... Go on, David! Tell us more and more about this, please! Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Edith & The Kingpin "See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard..." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Enviado: viernes, 24 de septiembre de 2004 0:02 Asunto: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" > I waited until we rehearsed it so I could be sure I want to go ahead with it. > > It's a little outside, but yes, I hear the tune. The jazz reference is > Ornette Coleman, someone I've never applied to JM's music before. > > We'll also be doing customized versions of "All the Things You Are," "Blues > in the Night," and six of my original jazz compositions. > > Here are the details: > > DAVID LAHM SEPTET > > SUNDAY, OCTOBER 3 7pm > > WestBank Cafe (downstairs) 407 W 42nd Street NY NY > (just W of 9th Av) > > Music Charge: $10 Reservations: 212/695-6909 > > drinks available food upstairs on street level ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:21:22 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: jazz concert includes" Sweet Bird" You New Yorkers get to see everything! And when you go make sure to eat there The food. At the West Bank is outstanding. And you'll never see a more intimate and wonderful theater named after the spectacular Laurie Beechman. Bob M: Laurie sang the role of the narrator on Broadway and the original Broadway cast album. Jerry > I waited until we rehearsed it so I could be sure I want to go ahead with it. > > It's a little outside, but yes, I hear the tune. The jazz reference is > Ornette Coleman, someone I've never applied to JM's music before. > > We'll also be doing customized versions of "All the Things You Are," "Blues > in the Night," and six of my original jazz compositions. > > Here are the details: > > DAVID LAHM SEPTET > > SUNDAY, OCTOBER 3 7pm > > WestBank Cafe (downstairs) 407 W 42nd Street NY NY > (just W of 9th Av) > > Music Charge: $10 Reservations: 212/695-6909 > > drinks available food upstairs on street level ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:33:33 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: cat Stevens NJC This has the ring of truth to it, Randy. We here at USF are paying a heavy price for Sami Al Arian. I was one of his staunch defenders as a free speech advocate. But it now seems some of those "charities" were very questionable. And because of Betty Castor's support of academic freedom and free speech when she was president here she is being beat with a very large conservative stick by the name of Mel Martinez. And he may just end up as Senator from Florida. Jerry > Mr. Islam claimed he was just quoting scripture in a factual and > general manner, but he sounds to me like a man caught between Islamic > fundamentalism and his own conscience. He surely knew when asked > the question that the subtext was about Rushdie-after all, he himself > spearheaded a campaign to urge the publishers not to print the book, > and still believes it should be banned by the government (of Britain, > presumably). He held a press conference the next day to try to > explain. I find it telling that, to this day, he has not said "Hey, > a fatwa against an author? That's crazy, I would never support > that. No one should be murdered over their beliefs, etc...." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:55:07 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc The birthday gnome writes: > Is it "haaappy birthtaaag?" Who knows! > > Well, John van Tiel knows, and that's for sure. Fact is, he celebrates his > 50th birthday today -- a feat of McKayean longevity! So joni us all in > wishing > everybody's favorite Dutch uncle a ... what? Let's just call it a "happy > birthday." He'll understand. > > Happy birthday, John! > It's: HARTELIJK GEFELICITEERD MET JE NEUKEND VERJAARDAG ! Happy 50th Uncle John. xoxo Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:54:56 -0700 (PDT) From: briangross@rocketmail.com Subject: Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues This story was sent to you by: Brian Gross - -------------------- Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues - -------------------- By Robert Hilburn Los Angeles Times September 24, 2004 LOS ANGELES -- "I heard someone from the music business saying they are no longer looking for talent, they want people with a certain look and a willingness to cooperate," Joni Mitchell says, summarizing just about everything she feels is wrong with the pop world these days. "I thought, that's interesting, because I believe a total unwillingness to cooperate is what is necessary to be an artist, not for perverse reasons, but to protect your vision. The considerations of a corporation, especially now, have nothing to do with art or music. That's why I spend my time now painting." Mitchell is standing in the painting room of the Mediterranean-styled place in Los Angeles that has been her home for 30 years. Her face is aglow and her manner chatty as she points to the scores of paintings on the floor and walls. There are works, from portraits of Gauguin and Van Gogh to landscapes, to fit every mood, some tranquil, some tumultuous, and she seems as proud of them as the intimate, insightful songs from the '70s that made her a patron saint of romance for young women (and men) everywhere. In such albums as "Blue," "Court and Spark," "For the Roses" and "Hejira," she wrote about matters of the heart with grace and unflinching detail, helping launch the confessional school of pop music. It was music fueled by pain -- the pain of a young girl spending months in isolation because of polio and the pain of a young woman forced to give away her only child. "I lost my daughter at 21. I had to give her up because I was broke, no place to take her, no money to take her," she says. "That was very traumatic. So my gift for music was born out of tragedy, really, and loss." Yet despite the anguish beneath the songs, the music was never morbid. In fact, it was often jaunty, worldly, witty and, above all, honest. In a time of rising feminism, she never made romance into dogma. She's still trim and you can see in her eyes and cheekbones the features that caused her photo to be on thousands of dorm walls. The glow leaves her face, however, when asked if she plans to display or sell the paintings. She might show them in a museum at some point, but that's it. "I don't want to get into merchandising them," she says sharply. "I want nothing to do with galleries, even in terms of exhibitions. When money meets up with art, there is a lot of pain, and it's the pain of ignorance, and I don't want to meet up with that ignorance again. My work is personal, too vulnerable. That's why I quit making records." Although invariably labeled folk ("because I was a girl with blond hair and a guitar," she snaps), Mitchell traces her own influences to the classical music she adored as a youth and, later, jazz. On this afternoon, she talks about how she developed her style, but the most essential quality of a songwriter, she suggests, may be mental toughness. Like Bob Dylan, and fellow Canadian Neil Young, Mitchell has fallen in and out of favor over the years. She has been revered, imitated -- and ridiculed for being esoteric and out of touch. Ultimately, she was not tough enough. "Everything in my later career, with few exceptions, has been compared unfavorably to my early work," she says matter-of-factly. "I've done 16 records hearing people say, 'You're not as good as you used to be. Finally, I said, 'OK, I agree with you.' " Mitchell announced she was leaving the music business in 2002 and hasn't looked back. "My goal as a writer is more to comfort than to disturb," she says, explaining her decision. "Most of the art created in this particular culture is shallow and shocking, and I can't create music for this social climate." She pauses. In conversation, she is outspoken, funny, self-deprecating and stimulating. But she doesn't find anything funny about the topic at hand. "There's not much room for subtleties today. It's the shallow, flashy heart that grabs the attention; chase scenes, atrocities." At 60, Mitchell is a fascinating jumble of confidence, crankiness and vulnerability. She claims that the grossness of the business led to her retirement, but, hours later, you realize the real explanation is more complicated. Mitchell is hard to corral on the subject of songwriting. She didn't start out to be a writer (painting was her first love) and never saw much mystery in it. She'd rather talk about psychology, Eastern culture, nature, politics, her grandchildren and painting. Nowadays, she gets so absorbed in her painting that she often spends all night in the studio, her Jack Russell dog or three cats her only companions. Her two arts, painting and songwriting, happen in almost opposite ways for her. "In painting, your brain empties out and there's not a word in it; it's like a deep meditation, like a trance," she says. "I could step on a tack and probably wouldn't know it when I'm painting. In writing, it's kind of the opposite. That's why some people take stimulants. "You stir up chaotic thoughts, then you pluck from this overactive mind. It's part of my process as a writer, being emotionally disturbed by something exterior someone said or something that is happening in society. It's on your mind, and it won't go away until you deal with it." Her fans may be shocked to hear how little she thinks of many of her most celebrated songs -- songs that established her almost overnight as the first important female songwriter-performer in pop. Her style was greatly influenced by Dylan's emphasis on poetry, but she also wrote melodies as ambitious as Dylan's words. Drawing from classical composers and the great pre-World War II pop songwriters such as Gershwin, she came up with original and complex chord structures. In "Both Sides Now," a hit for Judy Collins in 1968, the words and the music came together gloriously as she paints alternating pictures of the romantic cycle. Even after all this time, she doesn't understand all the excitement over the song. "I thought 'Both Sides Now' was a failure, so what do I know?" she says, smiling. "I was not a good judge of my early material; none of it sounded all that good to me. That's why I wanted to keep moving forward." Pain and toughness came to Roberta Joan Anderson at an early age. The Fort MacLeod, Alberta, native, whose father was a grocery chain manager and mother taught school, was struck by polio so severe during grade school that there were fears she wouldn't walk again. She believes that some of that isolation stimulated her imagination. Being so confined, she would imagine all kinds of stories and pictures and scenes. Her early musical appreciation was tied more to the beauty and structure of classical music. The first singer who excited her was Edith Piaf, whose voice "thrilled my soul." She also speaks excitedly about hearing Rachmaninoff for the first time. At college, she studied commercial art, not music. But she sang folk music in clubs for fun and for pocket money. Everything changed when she got pregnant. "Immediately my life was in shock," she says. Having a baby when unwed was the "worst thing you could do" at that time. So she told her mother she was quitting art college to become a musician. She and the father, a fellow student, soon parted and Mitchell struggled to make a living singing in folk clubs in Canada. Hoping to provide a home for her baby, she says, she married American folk singer Chuck Mitchell, but the marriage was short-lived and she put the baby up for adoption. The move left her with a sadness and guilt that colored her songwriting. It was the heart of the folk explosion and Mitchell kept running into other singers as she moved to New York and eventually Los Angeles. She found they were drawing from the same material, so she began writing. She had always been good at poetry and had been able to make up melodies on the piano as a child. Mitchell's debut album attracted some critical attention in 1968, but it was "Ladies of the Canyon" two years later that confirmed her artistry and "Blue" in 1971 that certified her greatness. To understand the honesty and depth of emotion of "Blue," Mitchell says, you have to understand her frame of mind. Part of the album's introspection and vulnerability grew out of her own conflict of carrying "this guilty secret of having a child out of wedlock" and "not having been able to bond with her" and the sudden "elevation of public attention." One song, "Little Green," was written as a message to her lost daughter. But she also wanted to be truthful because she felt there was a danger in letting the public pick your persona for you -- a trap that she felt both Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin fell into, contributing to their self-destructiveness. "Jimi was a very genuine person, but doing all this theatrical stuff was humiliating to him," she says. "I didn't want a huge gulf between who I was offstage and who I was onstage. I didn't want to be a phony. Basically, what I thought at the time was: 'You are worshiping me. Let's see if you can worship me if you know who I really am.' " The result was some of the most captivating music in American pop, songs with a diary-like intimacy and poetic grandeur, songs such as "A Case of You," which is blessed with a melody as bright and elastic as Mitchell's soprano voice. In today's world of pop exclamations, the album's gentle, almost understated feel seems all the more convincing and honest. The music seemed almost effortless in its articulation of some of life's deepest and most complex emotions. "Blue" represented the point where passion meets art. About the lack of accusation and retribution in the songs, she says, now warming to the subject: "I think men write very dishonestly about breakups. I wanted to be capable of being responsible for my own errors. If there was friction between me and another person, I wanted to be able to see my participation in it so I could see what could be changed and what could not. "That is part of the pursuit of happiness. You have to pull the weeds in your soul when you are young, when they are sprouting, otherwise they will choke you." Her next two albums, "For the Roses" in 1972 and "Court and Spark" in 1974, were equally embraced by critics and her fans. Mitchell, however, was far from satisfied. She yearned for more ambitious musical statements, ignoring complaints from old fans who sometimes found themselves alienated by the new works. The move began raising eyebrows in the 1975 album "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" with its more challenging chord progressions and jazzier, free-form arrangements. It was during the '70s transition period that Mitchell recorded "Hejira," another masterpiece. It's a demanding album whose restless alienation was captured brilliantly in "Amelia," which added a rich layer of symphonic color to her storytelling. "Hejira" was written while driving cross-country alone, Mitchell finding a parallel in her solitary mood with the doomed aviator Amelia Earhart. She considers it one of her most inspired works. Her search for new musical textures reached a flashpoint four years later in "Mingus," a collaboration with celebrated jazz bassist Charles Mingus that many fans point to as when they lost interest in her music. Mitchell enjoyed a critical and commercial resurgence in recent years. Her "Night Ride Home" album in 1991 especially was hailed by many as a return of the accessibility and warmth of her early albums. "Turbulent Indigo" in 1995 won a Grammy for best pop album and 2000's "Both Sides Now" won a Grammy for best traditional pop vocal album. Mitchell was also inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1997. There was obviously something more going on. Maybe it was just that she had finally moved beyond the old anguish, which had been her creative spark. Crucially, she was reunited with her daughter, Kilauren, in 1997 and found joy in the simple pleasures of being a grandmother of a boy, 11, and a girl, 5. Now, the family spends time with her in Los Angeles and she spends time near them in Canada. And no, the restless chronicler of romance, whose 12-year marriage to bassist Larry Klein ended in 1994, isn't in a relationship. "I'm so happy," she says. "Such good friends. So much in love with life, but romantic love is over for me. I'm very happy about this leg of my life." Yes, she confides, she still strums the guitar and noodles with new melodies, but no more lyrics for her. In the end, her personal contentment and her silence seem to be interlocked. "In some ways, my gift for music and writing was born out of tragedy, really, and loss," she says softly. "When my daughter returned to me, the gift kind of went with it. The songwriting was almost like something I did while I was waiting for my daughter to come back." * The Los Angeles Times is a Tribune Publishing newspaper. Copyright (c) 2004, Southern Connecticut Newspapers, Inc. - -------------------- This article originally appeared at: http://www.greenwichtime.com/features/scn-sa-mitchell1sep24,0,2856161.story?coll=green-features-headlines Visit The Greenwich Time online at http://www.greenwichtime.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:12:37 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Artwork for Joni's shows Hi, folks! Maybe this will be of no interest for you, but... I've just started a yahoo group (http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/jmdesign/) to upload & download .jpg files bootlegs from our SIQUOMB. You are all invited! Disclaimer: I've started this since it seems very difficult to find artwork for her boots. Some of the images I've done it by myself (I'll upload tons more Monday, when I get to back to work and its broadband connection), so don't feel surprised about its very amateurish aspect Of course, your correction, suggestions etc. are welcome! (better in *that* group, I think) Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Twisted "...and you know two sexual tendencies are better than (n)one" - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:58:07 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: ebay update (njc) I received a full refund from ebay. They didn't even ask any questions. So I ended up making out pretty well...got to read a book for free all because some wanker was too cheap to buy a padded envelope. I'm resisting an urge to send a smartass email to the seller. And my soon to be ex-landlord finally came by the fix the sink and rid the premises of wasps. Very strange fellow...hardly said a word, as if it wasn't strange at all to respond to a complaint one whole month later. one more week.... Victor NP: the boortz show Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:30:04 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Whenever love comes around .... njc Happy Happy Birthday to our wonderful JMDL Covers King !!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:45:22 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: cat stevens NJC Cat's Dogma... LOL Catherine! Exactly... people who 'convert' all of a sudden (like Bush who I consider an infant it comes to Christianity as evidenced by his need to proclaim it so much publicly) often get the skin, not the heart of the religion I do recall he explained this in the documentary I saw though I doubt it got the media coverage that his first statement did because controversy... ' But I am not excusing his statement or his beliefs... I found it interesting that he was first let onto the plane because of a spelling error on the 'no fly list' which combined with the fact that he was even on it does not give me confidence in our so called 'homeland security' department... >LOL, Bob! I was a big fan of Cat, but if it's true what he said about Rushdie and if he hasn't retracted it, I'd be leery too. It sounds like he puts dogma ahead of compassion. Too bad this happens to some people when they get religion. ===== Catherine Toronto< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:53:53 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: cat stevens njc >Vince During a lecture (not an interview) in 1989, Yusuf was asked what the Koran said about blasphemy - not what Yusuf Islam, Cat Stevens, or the Ayatollah said about it, but the Koran. Yusuf Islam gave the textbook response that a new student of his adopted faith would give, much the same way a Christian would recite the Ten Commandments. His response noted that blasphemy is a capital sin in the Muslim faith< your friend is correct vince... that is what I remember from the documentary I saw... unfortunately the misinformation was already out there & I'm sure very few saw the documentary as opposed to reading those original headlines... scary how the media can distort things & those distortions then become mass reality... as we are witnessing this now with the bush/rove lie machine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:10:23 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: cat stevens NJC >In fact, we have had incidents of very suspicious people on airplanes in recent months. Alarmed passengers reported these incidents and the people in question were let go and not deported.< I imagine this is true... I also know of several people who fly regularly (musicians) have had some god awful experiences on the airlines... one of them, a young female folk singer was arrested after she bought a seat ticket in order to bring her guitar on board & then the airline wouldn't let her have it in the seat which she had a right to... long story short they demanded she get off the plane (this was a connecting flight she was far from home or where she was going), when she begged them not to (why should she have to leave?), they immediately arrested her, threw her to the ground & cuffed her, left her guitar on the tarmac & drove her to the station... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:24:12 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues briangross@rocketmail.com wrote: > -------------------- > Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues > -------------------- > > By Robert Hilburn > Los Angeles Times > > September 24, 2004 > > LOS ANGELES -- " > Yes, she confides, she still strums the guitar and noodles with new melodies, but no more lyrics for her. Hmmm....missed that the first time around. Joni, sounds like all you need is a lyricist. Ironic, for one of the best lyricists of all time! RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:35:36 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: re: rock the vote a la joni Way to go, Wally! Freud would say: "Das ist ganz wunderbar! Ausgezeichnet, Herr Wally!" And in response to your earnest plea here: >love and peace and register to vote and you voters fight the good fight for >all of us in world. we want to WANT to go back to jonifest in the us soon! > I say, don't worry, amigo! We are going to ROCK THE VOTE a la Joni, i.e., You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky They're going to aim the hoses on you Show 'em you won't expire Not till you burn up every passion Not even when you die Come on now You've got to try If you're feeling contempt Well then you tell it If you're tired of the silent night Jesus well then you yell it Condemned to wires and hammers Strike every chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories conceal - --------------------- Lots of love, Patti NPIMH: "Keep on livin' in the free world" (or whatever the title is of Neil Young's song that plays at the end of Fahrenheit 9/11) _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:50:32 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Kirsty MacColl It's a bit late, I know, but there are 2 programs about Kirsty MacColl being shown on BBC4 tonight at 9 and 10 pm repeated later. The second is "Who killed Kirsty MacColl?" which is about her elderly mother's search for the truth about the boating accident in which she died. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:22:08 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc happy birthday, dear john! lots of love, wally, maxima's "cousin" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:05:14 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc Happy Birthday, John. I'm right behind you--turning 50 this coming January. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Smurfycopy@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 7:08 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc Is it "haaappy birthtaaag?" Who knows! Well, John van Tiel knows, and that's for sure. Fact is, he celebrates his 50th birthday today -- a feat of McKayean longevity! So joni us all in wishing everybody's favorite Dutch uncle a ... what? Let's just call it a "happy birthday." He'll understand. Happy birthday, John! - --Smurf "I love the nightlife, I got to boogie 'til the dawn's early light." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:14:32 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: how do you say 'happy birthday' in ... DUTCH! -- njc Happy Birthday to Steve P. & Uncle John!! db >>> 9/24/2004 6:08:13 AM >>> Is it "haaappy birthtaaag?" Who knows! Well, John van Tiel knows, and that's for sure. Fact is, he celebrates his 50th birthday today -- a feat of McKayean longevity! So joni us all in wishing everybody's favorite Dutch uncle a ... what? Let's just call it a "happy birthday." He'll understand. Happy birthday, John! - --Smurf "I love the nightlife, I got to boogie 'til the dawn's early light." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Librarian's Alert - NJC Wonderful Profiles of Gillian Welch and David Rawlings in the most recent New Yorker. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues Silence can be a very strong lyric. Nuriel Randy Remote wrote: briangross@rocketmail.com wrote: > -------------------- > Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues > -------------------- > > By Robert Hilburn > Los Angeles Times > > September 24, 2004 > > LOS ANGELES -- " > Yes, she confides, she still strums the guitar and noodles with new melodies, but no more lyrics for her. Hmmm....missed that the first time around. Joni, sounds like all you need is a lyricist. Ironic, for one of the best lyricists of all time! RR vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:02:41 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: FW: Librarian's Alert - NJC - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Flynn [mailto:rflynn@frontiernet.net] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:02 PM To: 'Gerald A. Notaro' Subject: RE: Librarian's Alert - NJC I second that recommendation: The Sept. 20 issue. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Gerald A. Notaro Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:29 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Librarian's Alert - NJC Wonderful Profiles of Gillian Welch and David Rawlings in the most recent New Yorker. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:13:13 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Boycott For Equality, October 8, 2004 Imagine what would happen if every gay man, lesbian, bisexual person, and transgendered and transsexual person, and our straight supporters and friends were to do this. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Dale Duncan (757) 257-6215 dsd@boycottforequality.org Gays to Withdraw Cash from Banks October 8  Could Total Billions Atlanta, GA, September 22, 2004  Organizers of the Boycott For Equality are expanding their nationwide walkout to include a coordinated cash withdrawal from the economy on October 8. To demonstrate the need for equality in marriage and the workplace, Straight and Gay supporters will each take out $80 from their local ATM. Boycott For Equality expects the action will exhaust the cash in many ATMs, leaving a reminder of gay economic power to all who try to use them throughout the long bank weekend. To further drive home the lessons taught during the Boycott, participants should refer to the Boycott when communicating with their elected representatives, particularly when candidates ask for money to fund their campaigns. "Let them know you participated in the Boycott" explained Duncan. "Just take your ATM receipt, cross out your account number, circle your balance, write GAY MONEY on it and mail it to campaign headquarters in the postage paid envelope they provide. They'll get the message that nobody in America can be taken for granted." The amount represents the amount the average member of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) community contributes to the US economy each day, and could grow beyond the $1.4 billion that LGBT workers contribute each day  more than $500 billion each year according to computations by Washington D.C.-based public relations firm Witeck-Combs Communications. The walkout combines several actions highlighting the various ways that Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Citizens contribute to the economy on a regular basis. Other components of the Boycott include a one-day work stoppage or "pink flu" day to make employers and colleagues aware of their gay and lesbian employees and what it would be like without them; a moratorium on spending for goods and services such as gas, food and clothing, to show retailers what would happen if 7% of their revenue goes away; closures by sympathetic businesses to make their customers aware of how dependent Americans are upon each other; and a halt to cell phone use to spread the message to the many people every American communicates with each day, that marginalizing gay and lesbian citizens is not good for business. Close to fifty businesses and 15,000 people have already pledged to participate using the online forms at the group's web site. Some major groups that have endorsed or encouraged Boycott For Equality Day include Don't Amend: The Equality Campaign, The Advocate magazine, Civil Marriage US, several local PFLAG chapters, DC Diversity, Equality Illinois and Wyoming Equality. Additionally, Boycott For Equality is listed on Margaret Cho's Marriage Equality Resource Site, www.loveisloveislove.com, as one of the things people can do to fight for the issue of Marriage Equality. "We have had almost one million visitors to our web site. If just one tenth of those people are able to participate, we will have united to send a powerful message to those who stand in the way of economic growth" said Dale Duncan, co-founder of Boycott For Equality. "For many people, such as those who would be fired for participating in the walkout, this is the only way they will be able to express their frustration at obstacles to fairness." In at least 36 states it is still legal to fire some one because of their sexuality  even if they never bring it into the workplace. And nowhere in the United States are these taxpayers able to file joint federal income tax, combine tax deductions, or access their partner's social security or disability benefits. The actions were chosen so that they could be performed anonymously, yet demonstrate on a personal level how valuable LGBT citizens are to the community. They are also measurable and open to participation by an unlimited number of straight allies. "Across the country, more than 80% of Americans support equal job opportunities for lesbians and gays" says Duncan. "These are people who understand how discrimination hurts their bottom line, and are willing to help their friends and colleagues secure basic rights and freedoms." - ----------- Boycott For Equality is an Atlanta-based non-profit formed to promote the boycott, scheduled this year for October 8. For that day, GLBT Americans and their straight allies are encouraged to withdraw from the economy in five specific areas: 1) Stay home from work. Do not generate payroll taxes, income taxes or add to the economy. If you run a business, let your customers know by closing for the day. 2) Withdraw $80 from your bank account at an ATM. 3) Don't shop. Do not generate sales tax or business revenue. 4) Hang up your cell phone. Your silence will affect your whole communications network. For more information, visit www.boycottforequality.org - -- If you don't hit any bumps in the road, you're not moving. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: more love, laura Love! njc Just got my 2nd Laura Love CD, "Octoroon" today. What can i say it blows me away, yes that rhymes, and I'm a rhymin' fool lately. And I now have so much rhythm I can't stand myself! So the liner notes, written by Laura, broke my heart and yet left me energized. First cut on the CD is "Bad Feeling" and lists co-writer as Sylvester Stewart. eh??? *the* Sylvester Stewart, aka "Sly"? Or is a competely different human? Anybody know? A few stabs at Google have not turned up any info..but I shall perservere. Love to all! Laura Love...mmmmmmmm..... Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:50:06 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: more love, laura Love! njc **What can i say it blows me away, Awesome, Em...that makes me feel good because *I* recommended it to ya'. I also bought the one you were spinning (found a copy for $5) and it's on the way. I'll post a review when I give it a spin. I guess we're really "sharing the love", huh? "Love" ya, Bob NP: Mecolico, "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: more love, laura Love! njc yep its a good one Bob! Thanks for the recommendation. Ya done good. Hope you like 'Shum Ticky". I just read one old review of it online that was not so favorable, but the guy was an admitted folky and Shum Ticky - some cuts, rock a bit. In fact I feel prompted to buy a subwoofer for my car so I can fully headbang on "Less Is More". Love is Love! Hope you enjoy! :) Em NP Carlos de Nicaragua "Sensemaya" - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Awesome, Em...that makes me feel good because *I* recommended it to > ya'. > I also bought the one you were spinning (found a copy for $5) and > it's on > the way. I'll post a review when I give it a spin. > > I guess we're really "sharing the love", huh? > > "Love" ya, > Bob > > NP: Mecolico, "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Artwork for Joni's shows --- Emiliano wrote: > NP: Twisted > > "...and you know two sexual tendencies are better > than (n)one" > --Gov. Jim McGreevey Hey...... wait a minute! Are two Jim McGreevey quoters better than one? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: cat stevens NJC --- Kate Bennett wrote: > Cat's Dogma... LOL Catherine! > Meow! Woof! Heh-heh-heh! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:05:56 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell: The musical journey continues Hi, Brei! Many thanks for posting this! [...] > On this afternoon, she talks about how she developed her style, but the most essential quality of a songwriter, she suggests, may be mental toughness. Like Bob Dylan, and fellow Canadian Neil Young, Mitchell has fallen in and out of favor over the years. She has been revered, imitated -- and ridiculed for being esoteric and out of touch. > > Ultimately, she was not tough enough. "Everything in my later career, with few exceptions, has been compared unfavorably to my early work," she says matter-of-factly. "I've done 16 records hearing people say, 'You're not as good as you used to be. Finally, I said, 'OK, I agree with you.' " > > Mitchell announced she was leaving the music business in 2002 and hasn't looked back. "My goal as a writer is more to comfort than to disturb," she says, explaining her decision. "Most of the art created in this particular culture is shallow and shocking, and I can't create music for this social climate." > [...] Uau! I just *love* Joni's words! I've made up my mind: releasing more'n more new comps. is great if this let us, at least, read another interview with the Queen. First: that >>"I've done 16 records hearing people say, 'You're not as good as you used to be. Finally, I said, 'OK, I agree with you.' "<< well... maybe I understand: why try to express publicly your poetry when you get so more nodding heads, even "ridiculed for being esoteric & out of touch"?: he he, I fear that in this shallow music-world with so many *empty* songs only a pretty face in the mtv, with the American Idols (Operacion Triunfo is called here, if you know what I mean) anything can seems really beyond normal aims! Very good your idea, Randy, about Joni needing a lyricist... she herself tell us how painful writing a lyric can be (specially in these convulsed times). Just tell Joni if her next album of standards could be with a quartet, please > [...] > In "Both Sides Now," a hit for Judy Collins in 1968, the words and the music came together gloriously as she paints alternating pictures of the romantic cycle. > > Even after all this time, she doesn't understand all the excitement over the song. "I thought 'Both Sides Now' was a failure, so what do I know?" she says, smiling. "I was not a good judge of my early material; none of it sounded all that good to me. That's why I wanted to keep moving forward." [...] Reading her say that Both Sides Now was a failure: how one can be so autocritical and insecure? Autocritical & Insecure: my favourite attitudes... yes, I can understand they don't make an easy livin'... Uneasy & Beautiful: like All of You! Emiliano NP: If I Had A Hammer!, by Solomon Burke "...pour lui accorder mon pardon / for letting him free qu'on m'amene ce jeune homme / bring this young man to me si la photo est bonne / if the photo suits him well" - -- Barbara / Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: cover fantasies...more Love , sorry lol i think Laura Love should cover the HELL out of Dreamland, do it PROUD - - re grow it..and I think Joni should romp and have some fun with Laura's Mahbooty! you know she'd have a blast! hehhhh hehehhhhhhh.... Laura Love - Joni's next bassist? oh, I forgot..no 'mo Joni. You know?? I doubt it somehow.... just a hunch. Music is too much fun! and as Crosby said and I CERTAINLY find to be the case: "Everybody's sayin' that music is love Everybody's sayin' it's love" :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:19:53 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Artwork for Joni's shows Catherine writes: << Hey...... wait a minute! Are two Jim McGreevey quoters better than one? >> Yes, Catherine. The more the gayer ... and what could be more American? XO, - --Smurf "I love Uncle Sam. And his adorable nephews." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:17:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: ebay update (njc) --- Victor Johnson wrote: > I received a full refund from ebay. They didn't > even ask any questions. > So I ended up making out pretty well...got to read a > book for free all > because some wanker was too cheap to buy a padded > envelope. I'm resisting > an urge to send a smartass email to the seller. Victor, this is a good thing! Resist your smart-ass urges. Save them for something more challenging. > And my soon to be ex-landlord finally came by the > fix the sink and rid the > premises of wasps. Very strange fellow...hardly > said a word, as if it > wasn't strange at all to respond to a complaint one > whole month later. > Some people have an entirely different concept of time than others. It's all relative, y'know. The important thing is - it's done now! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:15:20 -0400 From: Subject: Kirsty MacColl (was Karen O'Brien's Bio) If I had the chance, I'd remind Kristy MacColl (in a nice way) that she HAS received a ton from Joni. Kirsty didn't give an unrequited gift. Kirsty was able to give something BACK and many of us would love to have that opportunity. When I had a chance, I gave Mike Timmins a photo of Margo and thanked him for all of the stories through the years. It meant more to me to give something back than to bug him for an autograph, eh? Lama, "llama emeritus" of the Cowboy Junkies' community PS, I did bug Margo for a photo, though! Did I mention that Margo Timmins has adopted a toddler? "And the seasons / they go..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:28:57 -0400 From: Subject: Re: jazz concert includes"Sweet Bird" Mr. Lahm, I hope to hear that (and the originals) on a future release. I "hear" Monk in Paprika Plains so I think it would be an understandable hop, musically, to Coleman. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu >From: Dflahm@aol.com I waited until we rehearsed it so I could be sure I want to go ahead with it. It's a little outside, but yes, I hear the tune. The jazz reference is Ornette Coleman, someone I've never applied to JM's music before. We'll also be doing customized versions of "All the Things You Are," "Blues in the Night," and six of my original jazz compositions. DAVID LAHM SEPTET SUNDAY, OCTOBER 3 7pm WestBank Cafe (downstairs) 407 W 42nd Street NY NY (just W of 9th Av) Music Charge: $10 Reservations: 212/695-6909 drinks available food upstairs on street level ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:06:46 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 25 On September 25 the following article was published: 1998: "Taming the Tiger" - London Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=170 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #389 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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