From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #383 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, September 19 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 383 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC - Over the Rhine (Love, the Magician - Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer) ["Kate Bennett" ] njc any lovers of LOVE? (laura) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Anyone Dreaming? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] NJC Bushwhacked NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Ivan Skipped us (njc) ["Kakki" ] Re: New CD [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming? -- njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming? -- njc [vince ] Full Moon Joni DVD [Lindsay Moon ] RE: Anyone Dreaming? -- njc ["Azeem" ] CBC.CA Radio[NJC] [Richard Goldman ] Re: CBC.CA Radio[NJC] [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Full Moon Joni DVD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Brian Wilson finishes "Smile", njc ["Lama \(Jim L'Hommedieu\)" ] Re: njc any lovers of LOVE? (laura) [Randy Remote ] Re: Anyone Dreaming [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming? [Em ] Argentinian version of Amelia [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Anyone Dreaming [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Argentinean version of Amelia ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Argentinian version of Amelia [Mike Friedman ] Today's Library Links: September 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:13:53 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: NJC - Over the Rhine (Love, the Magician - Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer) Sweeeeet... >Fascinating story about their stolen instruments and an unexpected happy ending - check out the following link for something equally heart-warming (I love our music community... <3 ) http://www.thewoundedhealer.com/ < ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:25:50 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: Re: Subject: NJC - Over the Rhine (Love, the Magician - hi >>>susan wrote > >Fascinating story about their stolen instruments and an unexpected happy ending - check out the following link for something equally heart-warming (I love our music community... <3 )<<<< ok - now that everyones in the right frame of mind, heres my request http://www.hughsfineguitars.co.za/D28Herringbone.htm nothing greedy bout me, its going for the bargain price of just us 40,000........... ron np - silvio rodriguez ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:32:02 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Now Hair (now NJC)/ other stuff too My parents took us kids to the broadway version when we lived in San Francisco... I hadn't seen the nekked version before... being with my folks & with that above it all teen attitude about everything my parents did... I was SOOOO embarrassed ! >I had a chance to see Hair in Chicago in about 1970. High school drama club trip. My mother wouldn't sign the required permission slip because somebody told her about the masturbation line.< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:39:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc, crosby and nash >Dearhearts: Crosby and Nash are going to be on Leno (NBC) tonight (Friday). C'mon, Joni -- you're next! I want to see YOU on my blue t.v. screen light! With a wink and a smile,< Whoa read this looked at my clock & it was a few minutes to the end of leno...turned it on & caught most of the song... hoping to catch peev & indeed there he was on geetar... Went to a cool show tonight... the community was honoring Kenny Loggins for all his community service... he had his band & part way through out came Jimmy Messina & they played a bunch of L&M songs... heads up for any L&M or Poco fans... both are coming next month to the annual fall festival in santa ynez (the one david crosby usually puts on) should be a good one... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:41:27 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc any lovers of LOVE? (laura) She is SOOO good in concert! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:04:01 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? **I figured it was just more re-packaged stuff That's the point - it is, so ho hum. But I was wondering if anybody, here among her most fervent fans, was even remotely interested in it. Bob NP: Joni, "Goodbye Blue Sky" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:01:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Bushwhacked NJC This reminds me of some of my BS answers on College History exams. Only difference was that *I* wasn't the President of the US at the time. Bring It On, Georgie! _http://www.eternalfun.com/movies.php?id=180_ (http://www.eternalfun.com/movies.php?id=180) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:53:03 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Ivan Skipped us (njc) I'm so relieved to hear that the Paz family and Cindy and Gislele have weathered Ivan. Leave it to Paz to turn the event into what sounded like another great party. I almost wished I were there! Hope everyone affected is O.K. and you all get a break down there now. The wind is in from Africa indeed - geez. Kakki - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:19:14 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: New CD Bob Wrote: It seems so strange...Joni released a new CD this week, and I haven't seen one post from anyone who bought it. Hi Bob! I was in a Super deee dooper Wal-Mart yesterday and had to look in the CD's to see what they had of Joni's. Dreamland was there, and I was like... what? I haven't heard of this one? I loved the artwork. So, it just came out... boy do I feel out of the loop! I would like to hear more about this CD... and eventually hear the CD! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:30:42 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? -- njc Muller asks: << I was wondering if anybody, here among her most fervent fans, was even remotely interested in it. >> Interested in what? --Smurf, who has forgotten exactly what attention disorder he has ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:39:28 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? -- njc >Muller asks: > ><< I was wondering if anybody, here >among her most fervent fans, was even remotely interested in it. >> > > > smurf ponders: >Interested in what? > > --Smurf, who has forgotten exactly what attention disorder he has > I think it is some new covers cd that Bob did not do Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:11:23 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Full Moon Joni DVD Ashara, thank you so much for sending along this DVD. It is just wonderful! I am almost through it and have this to say: Am I mistaken or is Johnny Cash the biggest masher?? Everytime Joni is on the show he's leering at her saying, "Isn't she beautiful?" "Isn't she pretty?" And then he swoops in for the kiss. Ugh! And there she is stuck, some 20-year-old who has to be nice to the host because she's on TV. It cracked me up. Thank you so much and to all those who contributed the material from who knows where. And it also struck me: Joni, Mama Cass and Mary Travers singing. And Mary Travers got famous for singing by .... ? Just some wry musings... Lindsay Moon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:23:49 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Anyone Dreaming? -- njc My answer to Bob's question is no, I'm not in the least bit interested in buying another piece of old rope. I was surprised to see it advertised on telly, which indicates that someone is willing to throw some money at it, which is a start I guess, as I'm pretty sure Hits and Misses didn't get that treatment. Azeem in London - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.757 / Virus Database: 507 - Release Date: 09/09/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:46:38 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: CBC.CA Radio[NJC] Has this Canadian radio show already been mentioend on here? CBC/Quebec City is having "Joni Jukebox" live broadcast... it's a bunch of locals doing Joni covers and it's very interesting. http://montreal.cbc.ca/ The "Live Radio" link on the left.... took me to another window, I clicked on R-1 Quebec City and .... it's been pretty cool ~Richard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:31:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: CBC.CA Radio[NJC] Thanks for the heads up, Richard... Doug, can you record/rip this stream for posterity? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:37:11 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Full Moon Joni DVD **And Mary Travers got famous for singing by .... ? Lindsay, I'm not sure that you're asking this, but Mary Travers is the Mary in Peter, Paul & Mary. Sorry if that's not what you were asking. That "I Shall be Released" trio is wonderful. I also need to say thanks to Ashara (and Wes) for this DVD, very well done. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:11:00 -0400 From: "Lama \(Jim L'Hommedieu\)" Subject: Brian Wilson finishes "Smile", njc http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/opinion/18sat3.html?th is an Opinion/Editorial piece entitled "Brian Wilson and the Significance of an Abandoned Masterpiece". Brian Wilson has updated and completed "Smile". I think this is the first time the abandoned but legendary project has appeared in an complete, official form. All the best, Lama np: Beth Patterson's TAKE SOME FIRE on Saturday afternoon. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:12:49 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? vince wrote: > Yeah, I saw an ad for it in the newest Rolling Stone A full page ad at that. And the corpse of TBOS still warm. LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > ... boy do I feel out of the loop! I would like to hear more about > this CD... > and eventually hear the CD! You have, you have... RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:16:04 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: njc any lovers of LOVE? (laura) Em wrote: > Cuz I wanted the "Mahbooty" song. What a great song....and I want you to know I dig Love... don't have any of her stuff, but hear it on my local community station from time to time, and it's always good. She has something of a following here in N Cal. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:18:30 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? >so I love ol' Cameron Crowe, Mr Almost Famous, wondering if its worth >buying just for the liner notes. I guess my feeling is that its not a >"new" Joni album Yes, it isn't a new album, and it's not really us, it's for the "general public," which I point out in the review I just sent to amazon, not yet posted. I personally have no problem with Joni releasing this collection and I hope that, through TV advertising (which apparently has begun in the UK but perhaps not the US yet) that it reaches many thousands. Now some of the song choices...that's another issue. But whatever. I haven't bought it yet but I probably will. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:44:34 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? **You have, you have... Indeed...the tracklist for Dreamland is: 1. Free Man In Paris (from Court & Spark) 2. In France They Kiss On Main Street (from HOSL) 3. Dreamland (from DJRD) 4. The Jungle Line (from HOSL) 5. Furry Sings The Blues (from Hejira) 6. You Turn Me On I'm A Radio (from FTR) 7. Carey (from Blue) 8. Big Yellow Taxi (from LOTC) 9. California (from Blue) 10. Help Me (from Court & Spark) 11. Nothing Can Be Done (from Night Ride Home) 12. Dancin' Clown (from the depths of Hell...oops I mean from CMIARS) 13. Come In From The Cold (from NRH) 14. Amelia (from Hejira) 15. For The Roses (orchestral version from T'log) 16. Both Sides Now (orchestral version from BSN) 17. The Circle Game (orchestral version from T'log) So most likely there's nothing new for you; if you don't have any of the above Joni discs mentioned - well, what are you waiting for you silly girl? Maybe what this needs is our own lovely Marianne wandering the streets singing "Who Will Buy"... Bob NP: Joni, "Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:03:01 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming **Yes, it isn't a new album, and it's not really us, it's for the "general public," That would be the same general public that probably already has Hits and/or Misses, right? So there's not going to be much of a market there either that I can see. The big marketing push surprises me...full page ads in major rags, TV ads, even the CD itself has a sticker on it that says "As advertised on TV"...while part of me is glad to see Joni's product get the attention, it's disheartening to know that there is simply no audience for this disc, as compared to a Rarities or Vintage Live collection, which would have a substantial audience I would think. Bob NP: Joni, "Refuge Of The Roads" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? Hi Bob thanks for mating up the song titles with the appropriate albums. Doesn't it seem curious there's nothing from TI? anyhoooo........ :) Em - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > **You have, you have... > Indeed...the tracklist for Dreamland is: > > 1. Free Man In Paris (from Court & Spark) > 2. In France They Kiss On Main Street (from HOSL) > 3. Dreamland (from DJRD) > 4. The Jungle Line (from HOSL) > 5. Furry Sings The Blues (from Hejira) > 6. You Turn Me On I'm A Radio (from FTR) > 7. Carey (from Blue) > 8. Big Yellow Taxi (from LOTC) > 9. California (from Blue) > 10. Help Me (from Court & Spark) > 11. Nothing Can Be Done (from Night Ride Home) > 12. Dancin' Clown (from the depths of Hell...oops I mean from > CMIARS) > 13. Come In From The Cold (from NRH) > 14. Amelia (from Hejira) > 15. For The Roses (orchestral version from T'log) > 16. Both Sides Now (orchestral version from BSN) > 17. The Circle Game (orchestral version from T'log) > > So most likely there's nothing new for you; if you don't have any of > the > above Joni discs mentioned - well, what are you waiting for you > silly girl? > > Maybe what this needs is our own lovely Marianne wandering the > streets > singing "Who Will Buy"... > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:15:29 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Argentinian version of Amelia _http://www.roxana-amed.com/castellano.html_ (http://www.roxana-amed.com/castellano.html) Click on "Discografia", then click on Amelia, and you can see the translation to Castellan which is what Roxana is singing in as well. Cool! I wish there was an audio sample but the only audio is the first song on the CD, which sounds pretty darn good. Makes my mouth water to hear her take on Amelia, which is on its way to me even as I speak. Bob NP: Joni, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:18:37 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming But Bob, there is an audience -- if only they are reached through marketing. Hits didn't get the kind of marketing push that Dreamland is supposed to get (I don't know of any American TV ads yet....but in the UK there is TV already and D. is #12 on Amazon.com there). Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:19:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming? **Doesn't it seem curious there's nothing from TI? VERY curious, Em...I mean it's not like it's a Grammy winner and/or the best thing she did in the 90's or anything!?!?!?!? Just another bad decision in what has now become a long, long string of them unfortunately. Bob NP: Furry Sings The Blues (S&L version) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:23:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming Like I say, I truly hope I'm wrong, Bryan...who knows? Folks seem to be lapping up these Rod Stewart does the standards collections advertised on TV like they were mama's milk, so maybe TV IS the answer. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than seeing this be a HUGE smash, and make Joni decide to get with it again. Bob NP: Furry Sings The Blues ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:41:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Argentinean version of Amelia dear bob, pedro aznar (credited as the translator) is our "jaco". his fretless bass playing is impeccable and he's a great musician and producer. needless to say, like most argentine musicians he's a joni fan. he lived for a while in the us. the translation is excellent, btw. funny, i had never heard of this singer. thanks for the news, love, wally ----- Mensaje original----- De: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Enviado el: Sabado, 18 de Septiembre de 2004 07:15 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; wallykai@fibertel.com.ar Asunto: Argentinian version of Amelia http://www.roxana-amed.com/castellano.html Click on "Discografia", then click on Amelia, and you can see the translation to Castellan which is what Roxana is singing in as well. Cool! I wish there was an audio sample but the only audio is the first song on the CD, which sounds pretty darn good. Makes my mouth water to hear her take on Amelia, which is on its way to me even as I speak. Bob NP: Joni, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:56:31 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming?, njc Bob wrote: So most likely there's nothing new for you; if you don't have any of the above Joni discs mentioned - well, what are you waiting for you silly girl? Hi Bob! I don't have the following: Dancin' Clown (from the depths of Hell...oops I mean from CMIARS) and For The Roses (orchestral version from T'log). The others I do have. A dancing clown from hell? Chucky perhaps? For some reason it is hard to find Joni CD's here in central Arkansas outside of Court and Spark, Blue, and her latest albums. But, really I have no excuses because I could buy online. Maybe what this needs is our own lovely Marianne wandering the streets singing "Who Will Buy"... If Bree can get her out of the cornfields... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:58:33 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone Dreaming Agreed. I think back to 2000 when BSN went to #1 on amazon (though certainly lower on the overall Billboard chart) the day after Joni was on Rosie O'Donnell. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:53:53 -0500 From: "mackoliver" Subject: Fw: Anyone Dreaming? Sorry Bob, that one was meant for the list. > Well my friend, I have yet to finish and/or digest all of the existing Joni > so have an advantage there I guess. Into DJRD right now, just though. > > mack > > np: mr. vandross--all of it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:02 PM > Subject: Anyone Dreaming? > > > > It seems so strange...Joni released a new CD this week, and I haven't > seen > > one post from anyone who bought it. Such a contrast; when TTT came out I > was > > in the store and bought 3 copies.As much as I wasn't keen on the idea, I > was > > still excited to get BSN & T'log (new recordings of old songs, better > than > > nuthin') the day they came out. Don't have TBOS & won't, and Dreamland > didn't do > > anything to get me in the store either. It just feels weird to have a new > > Joni release comes out & no one has commented on picking it up. Not that > I'm > > surprised. > > > > There's some reviews on Aamazon if you're interested in seeing them, but > be > > forewarned - they're none too kind: > > > > > _http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002MPQ50/qid%3D1095469205/sr%3D11- > 1/ > > ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-1120539-4298369_ > > > (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002MPQ50/qid=1095469205/sr=11-1/re > f=sr_11_1/104-1120539-4298369) > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Bjork, "Triumph Of A Heart" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:21:14 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Argentinian version of Amelia Will be very interested to hear how it sounds. That's my favorite Joni song.... SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >_http://www.roxana-amed.com/castellano.html_ >(http://www.roxana-amed.com/castellano.html) > >Click on "Discografia", then click on Amelia, and you can see the >translation to Castellan which is what Roxana is singing in as well. Cool! I wish there >was an audio sample but the only audio is the first song on the CD, which >sounds pretty darn good. Makes my mouth water to hear her take on Amelia, which >is on its way to me even as I speak. > >Bob > >NP: Joni, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: The Dreamland ad hehhh..just saw the Dreamland ad, on TV watching The Oxygen channel, which has a show about 60's folk rock on. So the Joni album is being marketed in the "CALL THIS 800 NUMBER" mode - to order yours now! Like a Super Bassamatic. LOL...so strange it seems. bu you know what?? its was GREAT!!!!!! GREAT to see Joni's lovely face unexpectedly on my blue TV screen light. Hope this release does for her what she hopes it can do. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:03:01 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 19 On September 19 the following articles were published: 1970: "Glimpses of Joni" - Melody Maker (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=180 1987: "Club Manager is Charged in Beating of Jazz Musician" - Miami Herald (NJC) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=930 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #383 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)