From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #378 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 14 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 378 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- DTVB&WOJM. ["willytheshake100" ] Re: DTVB&WOJM. [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Beth Patterson update, (long) njc [Catherine McKay ] Good news! NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Good News! NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Good News! NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: An awful, putrid, wretched thing ["Steven Polifka" ] Re: An awful, putrid, wretched thing [Lori Fye ] Re: harmonicas (njc) [Randy Remote ] Re: NJC - Kerry as a UNITER ! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Leslie speaker inventor dies at 93 (SJC) [] Re: Leslie speaker inventor dies at 93 (SJC) [Randy Remote Subject: DTVB&WOJM. Sorry if I'm way behind on this but I looked up the track listing for Dreamland: The Very Best of Joni Mitchell. The Very Best of Joni Mitchell??? Please tell me this ain't right but according to Amazon track 12 is Dancin' Clown. No, no, no! Geffen Years was understandable, Survival well permissible I guess, but Dancin' Clown on DTVBOJM. Nothing Can Be Done doesn't do it for me either. DTVB&WOJM. In future I will refer to this one simply as B&W. The Rhino e-card preview: I like the 'young' portrait of her looking out the window which I think should have been the cover, imo - but not sure about the cover portrait with the flowers - composition uninteresting and flat, but we still love her. WtS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:44:27 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: DTVB&WOJM. **Please tell me this ain't right but according to Amazon track 12 is Dancin' Clown. No, no, no! If only it was a mistake, Willy. Apparantly it is the truth. Joni obviously was not taking clues from the JMDL song poll: _http://www.jmdl.com/gallery/songpoll.cfm_ (http://www.jmdl.com/gallery/songpoll.cfm) which shows Dancin' Clown with a firm grip on 170th place (out of 174 choices). It is an awful, putrid, wretched thing. Bad enough that it was released originally, then tossed in the Geffen box. Now it's being foisted on the public again! It's cruel & unusual punshment I tell ya! Bob NP: The Postal Service, "Sleeping In" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:46:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Beth Patterson update, (long) njc --- Michael Paz wrote: > Warning to all JMDL folk who go to see Beth. You > will love her as well all > do, but if you are a heckler type be prepared to go > up against a master. Her > tongue is quick and sharp too as I always find out > at her shows. Well, you need that, y'know! It doesn't stop ya though, does it? ;-) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:11:10 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Kerry as a UNITER ! Bob Muller wrote: No, but I can imagine - I've wandered into some political chatrooms lately just as an observer and the level of hatred that Americans have for one another now is really scary. And Mr. Bush sells himself as a UNITER!! Feh. Bob I do not have the courage to sample firsthand what Bob described above about the political chatrooms - but have drawn similar inferences about what I would expect to find there by simpler observations on TV and - even here on this list. It is sort of lonely in the middle these days. To illustrate the complexity of this problem, I do not recall the level of hatred among Americans as being as great prior to the Democratic campaign as it is now. One might argue that the vitriolic personal attacks initiated upon Bush by the Democrats (long before there was reciprocity from the Republicans) have gone a long way to fanning the flames. And Mr. Kerry sells himself as a UNITER ! Just another point of view - not necessarily my own. However, it does illustrate why I went to 'Joni only' quite a while ago - sometimes one cannot avoid the conversation tho. Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:17:20 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: harmonicas (njc) A friend is looking to buy a new chromatic harmonica ("64X"?) Can anyone suggest a website where this could happen? Not E-bay!!!! LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:30:36 +0100 From: "willytheshake100" Subject: An awful, putrid, wretched thing Bob, I couldn't agree more. >> Joni obviously was not taking clues from the JMDL song poll which shows Dancin' Clown with a firm grip on 170th place (out of 174 choices). It is an awful, putrid, wretched thing. Again from Amazon: >> Formally extricated from the grubbiness of the music industry--her farewell speeches eluded to cesspools, no less--and now officially retired from songwriting, "Dreamland" is a valedictory glance back at Joni Mitchell's uniquely distinguished oeuvre featuring choice tracks selected by the lady herself. ..... and there's only one measly rotten apple, namely "Dancin' Clown"'s sweaty, Eighties-rock overexertion with a grunting Billy Idol. Selected by the lady herself!?!?!? Nowt stranger than folk turned to 80s rock. Some flaws in the woman's otherwise impeccable taste. WtS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:44:44 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Fixin' to die rag Our dear anima_rising and SCJoniGuy (love those email names!) wrote: Funny how so many of the songs from the Vietnam era >sound so fresh & relevant now. I had commented on Fiddle & The Drum >yesterday, today I was driving and had an old Steppenwolf Greatest Hits >tape >spinning in the car - I had it turned up REAL loud because after all the >louder >the better when it comes to John Kay & company, right? Of course right. > And then Catherine wrote: IT's funny you should mention this, Muller, because all I hear in my head these days is "For what it's worth" by Buffalo Springfield, a song I hadn't thought of for years before. And I have this "peace" symbol pendant that another jmdler sent me that I may start wearing around my neck. - -------- I know, I know! Here's what's stuck in MY head these days: "Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men, Uncle Sam needs your help again. He's got himself in a terrible jam Way down yonder in Vietnam So put down your books and pick up a gun, We're gonna have a whole lotta fun. And it's one, two, three, What are we fighting for ? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, Next stop is Vietnam; And it's five, six, seven, Open up the pearly gates, Well there ain't no time to wonder why, Whoopee! we're all gonna die. " More specifically, it's the refrain part (..."and it's one, two, three, WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR?....") that is really stuck in my head. Peace, love, and flower power, Patti (who used to dot the "i" in her name with a daisy, to signify flower power -- True Confession!) _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:08:16 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Good news! NJC Hi Kate! I really do hope so! I was a little bummed yesterday because I didn't hear it play during the program but one of my dynamic duo managers stepped in again and found out that the host actually took it home with him accidently while listening to it on the way home and didn't have it for the actual show. They are sending him his own copy today to make sure we have this covered and he said it will definitely play this Sunday! What's even nicer is that this week's show is a live broadcast from a restaurant on top of or in the Kennedy Center. I had made peace with myself yesterday that when the time is right, it will happen and now it turns out that this turn of events may work out even better! I really do hope I make it because I want the world to know about the JMDL!!!!! I never joined a sorority when I did attend college but I feel like I will be a "Jonilista" till the day I die!!! (Smile) Love, Sherelle Kate wrote: Hooray hooray sherelle, you are doing it girl! My weekday alarm is a smooth jazz station out of san diego... maybe soon I will be hearing you there I hope! _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:17:53 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Good News! NJC Ha! Ha! That was pretty good! Actually, there is this new guy by the name of Jamie Cullin or Cullim (not sure) who has this new CD out, "Twentysomething" that has found a way to make hot, rough jazz! I had a chance to see him perform "Twentysomething" live on VH1's Inside Track and I was blown away! He is definitely doing something new. All the buzz about him is worth it! (please someone correct me on his name) Sherelle Em wrote: Congrats to Sherelle, but just to play devil's advocate here a bit.. soooooooooo...... I wonder...hmmmmmm. Re: the proliferation of "smooth, cool" jazz... Are there actually any "hot, rough" jazz stations? Cuz I think that might be kind of fun too. Although perhaps not first thing in the a.m. ;) Em _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:29:52 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Good News! NJC > Ha! Ha! That was pretty good! > > Actually, there is this new guy by the name of Jamie Cullin or Cullim (not > sure) who has this new CD out, "Twentysomething" that has found a way to > make hot, rough jazz! I had a chance to see him perform "Twentysomething" > live on VH1's Inside Track and I was blown away! He is definitely doing > something new. All the buzz about him is worth it! (please someone correct > me on his name) > > Sherelle Jamie Cullem, and he is wonderful. Not at all like some of the young Frank Sinatra WannaBe's around. Did a show last week with the other Wunderkind, Nellie McKay at Joe's Pub. What a show that must have been. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:45:02 -0500 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Re: An awful, putrid, wretched thing Oh, stop with the 'I hate Dancin' Clown' campaign! Sheesh! Cher Chez la bomb! Whenever a Joni poll comes around Someone hates Dancin' Clown... lol! Steve >>> "willytheshake100" 09/13/04 09:30AM >>> Bob, I couldn't agree more. >> Joni obviously was not taking clues from the JMDL song poll which shows Dancin' Clown with a firm grip on 170th place (out of 174 choices). It is an awful, putrid, wretched thing. Again from Amazon: >> Formally extricated from the grubbiness of the music industry--her farewell speeches eluded to cesspools, no less--and now officially retired from songwriting, "Dreamland" is a valedictory glance back at Joni Mitchell's uniquely distinguished oeuvre featuring choice tracks selected by the lady herself. ..... and there's only one measly rotten apple, namely "Dancin' Clown"'s sweaty, Eighties-rock overexertion with a grunting Billy Idol. Selected by the lady herself!?!?!? Nowt stranger than folk turned to 80s rock. Some flaws in the woman's otherwise impeccable taste. WtS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:09:17 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Good News! NJC-Now Jamie Cullem Thanks Jerry! Yes, it must have been a great show. It's been a long time since I've seen a trio put on that kind of a performance! He definitely is doing something different. Thanks for clarifying the spelling for me. I got part of it right! Jerry wrote: >Jamie Cullem, and he is wonderful. Not at all like some of the young Frank >Sinatra WannaBe's around. Did a show last week with the other Wunderkind, >Nellie McKay at Joe's Pub. What a show that must have been. > >Jerry > _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Fixin' to die rag --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Patti (who used to dot the "i" in her name with a > daisy, to signify flower > power -- True Confession!) > I went through Grade 10 as Cathi with the same flowery thing. Grade 11 arrived and I just went, "F*ck it! That's not my name!" ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:42:30 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: An awful, putrid, wretched thing > Oh, stop with the 'I hate Dancin' Clown' campaign! > Sheesh! I agree, and I LIKE Dancin' Clown! Lori, who says VOTE for your fave songs at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery/songpoll.cfm (see left frame to vote, and be sure to register and/or sign in) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: An awful, putrid, wretched thing Hi Lori I like the Dancin Clown VIDEO, just cuz of the Joni ogling possibilities..but the song - not so much. :) Em - --- Lori Fye wrote: > > Oh, stop with the 'I hate Dancin' Clown' campaign! > > Sheesh! > > I agree, and I LIKE Dancin' Clown! > > Lori, > who says VOTE for your fave songs at > http://www.jmdl.com/gallery/songpoll.cfm > (see left frame to vote, and be sure to register and/or sign in) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:14:03 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: harmonicas (njc) I'd try Musician's Friend dot com Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > A friend is looking to buy a new chromatic harmonica ("64X"?) > > Can anyone suggest a website where this could happen? Not E-bay!!!! > > > LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:44:09 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Kerry as a UNITER ! I do indeed wonder if our country is even capable of being (or even appearing) united again, and what kind of miraculous leadership it would take to make that happen. I did feel like as a country we were united on 9/12/01. There didn't seem to be any delineations that day & time along political, religious, or even global borderlines. But it's been dramatically downhill (and sadly so) since then. Bob NP: Terri Clark, "Everytime I Try" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:54:26 -0400 From: Subject: Leslie speaker inventor dies at 93 (SJC) Yo, I think the Leslie speaker is on Three Dog Night's "Easy To Be Hard". Those of us of a certain age will remember the sound vividly. Follow the lyrics: >How can they ignore their friends? Easy to be proud. Easy to say, "No". Especially people who care about stran-gers, who care about evil and social injustice." He plays an rapidly ascending gospel figure with very little effect, then it breaks into a hugely warberling effect on held notes. I'm pretty sure that's right because on graduation night in 1973 (WHOA!!) a local band played it. The enclosure was as big as a full-sized Klipshorn but it had 2 horns. From the console, they dialed in the speed of rotation. "The sound was tough, man. So tough." I don't have a clue why we said, "tough" instead of "cool". All the best, Lama Tim quoted a eulogy which said, >The slow-scan "chorale" function provides motion that to some degree simulates the effect of sound emanating from pipes spread out in space relative to the observer (hearer), and the fast "tremolo" function simulates theater-organ tremulants as the sound heard varies in both volume and, due to the Doppler effect, apparent pitch, as well as changes associated with directionality > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:13:48 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Leslie speaker inventor dies at 93 (SJC) jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > I don't have a clue why we said, "tough" instead of "cool". 'cause "tough" was cool, but "cool" wasn't tough ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:05:39 -0400 From: "Lama \(Jim L'Hommedieu\)" Subject: that 70s slang, was: 'Leslie speaker inventor' (NJC) :) As I recall, the hottest cheerleaders were, only on their choicest days, "so tough" but losing a football game to our rivals "wasn't cool at all". A few years later I found that my older cousins on Long Island had been saying "bomb" and "boss". Shortly after that (when JT, Carole King, & CSNY were already old school), I heard that some new songwriter had been named *The* boss by his followers. I couldn't have guessed that The Big Man and The Gypsy would meet 'neath that giant Exxon sign and a savior would rise from these streets. Be of good cheer, music fans. For I have seen with my own eyes, that Beth does indeed travel to Ohio, and behold, all is right in my world. True believer Covington, Kentucky From: "Randy Remote" 'cause "tough" was cool, but "cool" wasn't tough> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:06:15 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 14 On September 14 the following articles were published: 1979: "Celebrating a jazz master and a bold new style" - Daily Collegian (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=872 1979: "Joni Mitchell - An Artist in Transition" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=880 1979: "Joni Mitchell equal to legendary billing" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=879 1979: "Mitchell Blends Styles at the Greek Theatre" - Valley News (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=871 2000: "Joni Mitchell, the homecoming queen" - Toronto Globe and Mail (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=541 2002: "Joni Mitchell: A Stormy Love Affair with Christ" - [Unknown] (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=963 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #378 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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