From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #365 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, September 2 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 365 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw: Janine please post where appropriate ["janine sherman" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #364 [Claud9 ] Canada's Woodstock? njc ["kerry" ] Re: Dan Fogelberg SJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Queen Lulu has lost her virginity!!!! (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Gino NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni & Dan [Jerry Notaro ] re: Dan Fogelberg (SJC) ["c Karma" ] re: Dan Fogelberg (SJC) [Catherine McKay ] re: Dan Fogelberg (NJC) ["Cynthia Vickery" ] Re: Dan Fogelberg (SJC) [Jerry Notaro ] NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore [Lori Fye ] Re: Queen Lulu has lost her virginity!!!! (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore [Lori Fye ] Re: (NJC & PC) Excellent Garrison Keillor piece [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: i've gone Bi njc [Catherine McKay ] the week before jonifest - njc ["patrick leader" ] freshman blues ["janine sherman" ] Re: The L Word njc [Lori Fye ] Re: freshman blues [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: i've gone Bi njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: i've gone Bi njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: freshman blues [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: The L Word njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: freshman blues [Michael Paz ] Today's Library Links: September 2 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: i've gone Bi njc [colin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:24:31 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: Fw: Janine please post where appropriate Janine please post where appropriateYou all will hear from me VERY soon. LOVE, Janine P.S. What a testament this is to the outpouring of love and generosity of spirit of the Jonifesters 04. Kisses to all. From: Sherman, Daniel (CSC) To: sherman@netrax.net Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:27 PM Subject: Janine please post where appropriate I'm asking Janine to post this for me since I'm not registered. Thanks to all of you at Jonifest 2004 for your friendship and your music from a Jonifest first-timer! Wow! What a cool group of immensely talented musicians and wonderful down -to - -earth folks. From the main evening performances, to the Song Circle, to the Pool Room, to the Barn I was in awe of the talent and thankful for all the music that was shared. To date, I haven't yet tried any of Joni's alternate tunings, but with the inspiration from her and all of you, I have decided that it is something I have to try. If the tab website performance drops it may be because I'm downloading a bunch of files ;-). I know I am a mediocre musician, but all of you made me feel just as welcome as anyone else that was there and that was very much appreciated. Janine and I both had a great time! I wish you all much happiness and hope to cross paths in the future, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 11:09:01 +0100 From: "aurabright" Subject: Queen Lulu has lost her virginity!!!! (NJC) DEar All of you who must (I doubt it) have been wondering where is she gone? what has happened to Our Lady of the occasional posts?..Well I have been through the most extraordinary experience of being told that my Virgin mail account no longer exists, that I have never had a virgin mail addy, that as such I cannot get it restored!!!!! Its all a bit Kafka-esque SO.... I have had to revert to a very very old account on Supanet that I have not used for years and its still there.... and its working for now... I hope those festers had a wonderful time and that we will read of their exploits and song making... HAve to go and get on with mixing concrete.....Ah me the joys of being a gal!!! Love and hugs to you all Queen Lulu (who did not go to FEst and would like to have done so, but was actually busy learning to ride her motorbike and going for long rides with the wonderful Frank!..who is actually doing to concreting but needs an audience!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 08:17:52 -0400 From: Claud9 Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #364 Yes, Victor. I couldn't agree more with Catherine. Thanks for all the hard work!!!!!! And how amzing after listen to so much music and being so focused, you still had that pool room energy. Wow...Big hug, Claud on 9/1/04 3:00 AM, JMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:33:27 -0400 (EDT) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: jonifest 2004 (njc) > > Victor, thank you so much for being the Sound Dude. I know that's a lot of > work, and you probably take a lot of heat from a lot of people any time any > little thing goes wrong. You did this as a volunteer. You didn't have to do > it, but do it you did. Kudos to you, buddy. It was stressful enough to me > being the sort-of-unofficial photographer and will continue to be stressful > until I get my piccies back tomorrow because I won't know until then if they > worked out or not. The digital stuff turned out OK and there's things I can do > with them using Photoshop and so on to make them look a bit clearer where > needed. And yet, one feels compelled to do an excellent job, so as not to let > anyone down. > > You rock, Mistah J! > > And would you mind posting the words to both "Happy fucking birthday" and > "Kickin' my bitches". The bitches had me in stitches Sunday night (or really > Monday morning) down at the barn. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 08:26:29 -0400 From: Claud9 Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #364 What a beautiful post. It made me almost relive that perfect moment in the car. I too felt so blessed and felt so much kinship despite that our daily lives happen so far from each other. Hugs, Claud on 9/1/04 3:00 AM, JMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:13:31 -0400 > From: "Maggie McNally" > Subject: RE: Jonifest (very long) - NJC > > Ah, yes, we have succeeded in converting another one...by dint of being > authentic, kind, fun, Joni-loving folks. Halleluiah! > > I wanted to add my words on the subject of this year's fest. It was smaller > in numbers, but I left with my heart as full of love as any time before and my > smile was no less throughout the weekend. The music was amazing, both that > which I heard from the stage in the performance space, and that which came at > me from every corner of Full Moon. A few favorite recollections include > watching Rachael up there on stage playing violin - Rachel you rock! The > addition of Derrick and the drum kit...how cool was that and how cool is he? > I just love all the guys and the gal that make up Stryngs - each one adds > something special and unique and the whole is even greater than the sum of the > parts. I loved that this year's fest was more mellow with more expanses of > un-scripted time. Trade-offs, you know, because I hated that folks I had come > to know and love were not there. > > A real "moment" came so unexpectedly, the way they often do at Jonifest. > Claudia, Patrick, Barbara and I decided to drive into Woodstock together. > Windows rolled down on a drop-dead beautiful Catskills day. Claudia starts up > the music for us and on comes "All I Want." Now, I've got a voice that's like > nails-on-blackboard off-key, but I love to sing and the car's the safe place > for me to do it. I kind of forgot where I was for a moment and started to > sing. Then I hear Claudia's pure soprano chime in, and Barbara and Patrick, > and all of a sudden I'm in a choir of angels and we know not only the words, > but the inflection, the pauses, the swoops. Claudia and I smile at each other > at the perfection that is life in that moment...and I think, this is heaven. > I may not believe in the kind of god that sits up in heaven and smiles or > frowns down on us, but I believed in god (small "g") in that moment. > > Sunday night I went down to the pool room and hung with the largest crowd I > have ever seen there. I have an image in my mind's eye that will have to hold > me until next time - sitting in the corner next to Cindy, looking out at a > circle (well, as much as we create bona fide circles) at Jason's back as he > played guitar and we were all wowed because he had stood back and let his > beautiful young daughter Rachael take the spotlight all weekend, and Chuck E., > Les Ross, Jenny, Strings, Les Irvin, Mary P., Suze, Sue, Meg, Claudia, Kay, > Barbara, Victor, Donna, Lori, Paz (and you know there may be more, but give me > a break, it was 3:00 a.m.) watched and listened in appreciation and with love. > My heart filled with how much all of these people, and all of those with whom > I have shared these moments, mean to me. I couldn't stand the thought of so > many goodbyes and so I decided to just slip away, get to bed and remember it > forever. > > Love, > Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 07:33:57 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Canada's Woodstock? njc Just got an e-mail from my local theater about this upcoming film: (Where was Joni?) FESTIVAL EXPRESS Coming in September Filmed in 1970-and consisting largely of previously unseen footage-FESTIVAL EXPRESS documents the eponymous "happening" that was conceived as Canada's answer to Woodstock. What made it unique was that it was portable: for five days, the bands and performers-including the Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, The Band, among others-lived, slept, rehearsed and did countless unmentionable things aboard a customized train that traveled from Toronto to Winnipeg to Calgary, with each stop culminating in a mega-concert. Cast: Janis Joplin, The Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin & The Full Tilt Boogie Band, The Band, Buddy Guy, Delaney & Bonnie & Friends, The Flying Burrito Bros, Ian & Sylvia & The Great Speckled Bird, Mashmakan, ShaNaNa, Buddy Guy Blues Band, Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Rick Danko, Ken Pearson, Richard Bell, John Till, Sylvia Tyson, Jerry Mercer, Kenny Gradney, Eric Andersen, David Dalton, James Cullingham, Rob Bowman, Ken Walker Unrated, 1hr40min Director Bob Smeaton discusses the discovery and restoration of the archival footage: http://www.movienet.com/festivalexpress.html Website: http://www.festivalexpress.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:11:47 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg SJC Hi Lindsay! I...absolutely...love...Dan...Fogelberg!!!! To hear that Joni was an influence on him warms my heart. I was introduced to him by two college roomates who hosted me until I could get my own place in Los Angeles. My school, Immaculate Heart College had no dorms so we had to find apartments. The Le-Le Pagoda as they called it were two girls from the Chicago area who were big fans of Dan Fogelberg's. They showed me the his picture on the album "Souvenirs" and then played the title song. I thought I had died and gone to heaven it was so beautiful!!!! I was first introduced to Joni at the same time. Through the years, I have felt a similar connection to his music as I have to Joni's and I never knew why exactly. Now I do. I do remember feeling that he was as lovelorn and love torn as Joni. I just thought it was a coincidence. Yes, I bought a CD some years back with him and Tim Wiseberg (sp?) and it was nothing that I expected. I didn't care for it but I still have it. Dan took me on a musical and emotional journey just like Joni. Even thinking about it takes me back. I wonder if he is still with Irving Azoff? I have a coworker who just joined their team as a manager almost a year ago and he loves it. Thank you for sharing this Dan Fogelberg/Joni Mitchell thread. You bring back some good memories. Lindsay wrote: Well, I've now read the bio on Dan, and his career pretty much parallels Joni's and she is mentioned several times in his bio as being an influence (and Russell emailed me she sang backup on Nexus on his album "The Innocent Age." (I probably have that in my collection of albums and I don't know why that fact escaped me. Thanks, Russle!) Some examples: He majored in art and then turned to music. He came to LA in the early '70s w/his manager Irving Azoff who set up an office across the street from David Geffen who had signed Joni by that point. He had Graham Nash and members of the Eagles, etc. sing backup on his first album and he worked with Joe Walsh. He lived on Lookout Mountain in Laurel Canyon for a year and a half. Cites Joni as an influence for changing stream and writing less first-person, more third-person songs (i.e., Hissing) for "Windows & Walls" and says like Joni he was lambasted for it. Has a cabin on an island in Maine instead of British Columbia. He did foray off into bluegrass (and that's where he lost me) whereas Joni went into jazz, and he doesn't seem to smoke like a chimney. But I thought it was pretty interesting. I'll tell you, if there *was* something going on romantically between them, I wouldn't blame her. He's almost as good-looking as Bob Muller ... ; ) Lindsay _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:15:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Queen Lulu has lost her virginity!!!! (NJC) Lu, you must have been on the alternate Virgin then. Seriously though, a similar thing happened to my brother with Telus. Isn't it wonderful being told that you have never existed? It's all a dream she has awake. aurabright wrote: I have been through the most extraordinary experience of being told that my Virgin mail account no longer exists, that I have never had a virgin mail addy, that as such I cannot get it restored!!!!! Its all a bit Kafka-esque Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:34:50 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Back from Jonifest NJC Just got back home after a very gruelling trip. Very tired but full of memories of another wonderful time at the Full Moon (which shone a real Full Moon on us!) Such wonderful company, and so many fantastic performances on, and off stage. Can't wait to see/hear some of the recordings. Was particularly moved by the tribute to MG. All the music, Mary P's speech. So much love. Can't really single out of describe in detail any more now. Need sleep. Love to all you guys, Martin. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:23:26 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Gino NJC > Jerry > > np: Gino Vannelli - Dea Speranza > > Jerry/All -- I LOVE the Gino Vannelli album that song comes from ("Canto"). > It's beautiful, and who knew he could sing like that (gorgeous, powerful "pop > opera"). "Wayward Lover" brings me to tears. > > Bryan > I once played Last Dance from that cd 40 times in a row in my car. What a cd! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:28:00 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni & Dan The only Joni-Dan > work I know of was Joni singing back-up on one of Dan's songs - someone help > me name it - it was on a double LP that was released at the height of his > popularity. The song has a Native American sort of feel, if I recall > correctly. My > vague memory says the song was called "Nexus" but I can't remember the name of > the album. > Bryan Funny this should come up right after the Only One thread. This is another example of a song I loved long before I knew Joni was singing aback up on. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:35:22 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Dan Fogelberg (SJC) Bob Mueller wrote: "Oh yeah, Fogelberg....true that Joni sings a very nice coda vocal on "Nexus", I'm also pretty sure that Dan the man is part of "The Lookout Mountain United Downstairs Choir" on The same Circle Game that was in my head all day. Fogelberg had an outstanding hat trick in the 70's with "Souvenirs-Captured Angel-Netherlands", three gorgeous & flawless records." Well, true about his 70s hat trick, although some of "Souvenirs" provides me somewhat painful flashbacks to adolescence. I was probably one of the three people who bought "Twin Sons of Different Mothers." I still like it today. Some other notes about vocals include his having backed up the Eagles on several tracks and for me, most notably having provided the beautifully harmonized answer phrases to Jackson Browne's lead vocal on "The Late Show" (one of Browne's best compositions, IMHO). I credit his "Home Free" as having been one of the charms I employed to win my wife's affections. I truly hope he beats his challenge. CC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:34:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: Dan Fogelberg (SJC) c Karma wrote: I was probably one of the three people who bought "Twin Sons of Different Mothers." I still like it today. I was another one. If we find number 3, then we're all here! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 15:46:40 -0500 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: re: Dan Fogelberg (NJC) c Karma wrote: <> and Catherine responded: <> now me: I had a copy, and so did my friend Julie. Now - which of you two is lying about having that album? Hmmm? cindy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:50:01 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg (SJC) > c Karma wrote: > I was probably one of the three > people who bought "Twin Sons of Different Mothers." I still like it today. > > > I was another one. If we find number 3, then we're all here! That would be me!!!! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:18:25 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore Great daily reading at: http://www.oldamericancentury.org http://www.capitolhillblue.com http://www.sickofthiscrap.com http://www.bartcop.com http://www.allhatnocattle.net And you know there may be more ... Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:00:24 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore Hey, I recognize lots of those links, Lori! A couple of my daily stops on the information highway. Another one I just discovered: _http://www.commondreams.org/_ (http://www.commondreams.org/) A fine fine piece from Garrison Keillor there today. Too bad Kerry doesn't want to win, though - he should be kicking *ss instead of windsurfing on Nantucket. Bush comes out and says the war on terror is unwinnable - Kerry should be hammering that. If he doesn't lace the boxing gloves up soon he's toast. And I have to share this, because it just hit me on the head the other day like a ton o' bricks...what has never made sense to me is why Bush commands such a following, it actually seems to defy logic. But then I realized, his arrogance and ignorance (a truly deadly combination, literally) is a perfect match for so much of our society. This is, after all, the same crowd that makes reality TV a hit and thinks that attacking and occupying a country that posed no threat to us is an appropriate reaction to what happened on 9/11. Anyway, just thought I'd share that as I've now surmised that trying to use logic in a disagreement with a Bush supporter is a totally pointless exercise. But I'm sure, like you, I can't stop trying. Bob NP: Renaissance, "Ashes Are Burning" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 22:56:46 +0100 From: tantra_apso Subject: i've gone Bi njc I finally gave in and got my first pair of bi -focals. It makes such a difference to be able to see when knitting, reading, grooming! - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:04:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Queen Lulu has lost her virginity!!!! (NJC) **DEar All of you who must (I doubt it) have been wondering where is she gone? Well Lucy, I would say that I've missed you but the truth is that I hear you every day! I'm reading "Eats Shoots & Leaves" which is written by a Brit who seems to write in the same style & pattern as you. (Does that make sense? I hope so, and I certainly mean in most complimentary) So when I read it, I 'hear' your voice (from the memory of your stories and conversations at last year's fest) saying all these things. But regardless of that, you know that I always like to read from the REAL Queen Lulu! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:08:47 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore > Another one I just discovered: _http://www.commondreams.org/_ > (http://www.commondreams.org/) > A fine fine piece from Garrison Keillor there today. Thanks for this link, Bob; much appreciated! Missed you at Fest ... Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:11:46 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg (NJC) Y'all have been smoking crack..."Twin Sons Of Different Mothers" was a big hit record with "The Power Of Gold" on it. I bought it the day it came out, as did lots of my friends, and it got lots of airplay as well. It was a nice record, but certainly a step down from Netherlands. I was totally jacked when Twin Sons came out, because: 1. I was a bigger Tim Weisberg fan than I was a Fogelberg fan; 2. Netherlands was so damn good. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your perspective I suppose, both artists went downhill after this collaboration. I saw Tim live twice, he played these humongo-sized flutes, and he'd play one flute into a recorder/playback type thing, then play another live flute and duet with his own solo. I'm sure his 70's stuff would sound horribly dated now, but his "Hurtwood Edge" and "Listen To The City" got lots of eartime from me. Bob NP: Steve Hackett, "Twice Around The Sun" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:22:25 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore (now NPC) **Missed you at Fest ... Thanks Lori - I missed our annual smooches! Sounds like y'all had a great time, as always, and knew that you would. I was just ready for a change of scenery Fest-wise; I'm heading down to Tampa/St. Pete this Friday, and we'll be minifesting with Jerry, (Boston) Jim Leonard, Cindy S, Em (where did you go, Em???) and anyone else who wants to join in. We'll be at Skipper's Smokehouse Friday night, and then just doing touristy stuff on Saturday. Sunday we roll into Ft. Myers to hang with Jimmy, Ed, Mingus, and Susan Moss (but hopefully NOT Frances!!) a "Covers 56" listening party is hopefully on the agenda. Should be fun and will be well-timed for me to not miss my Nathan so much. Bob, keeping that Jonifest spirit going NP: The Yardbirds, "Heart Full Of Soul" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 15:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC & PC, just because I can't stand it anymore (now NPC) Hi Bob! I am here. Was away over the weekend. Looking forward to Friday. :) 'Em - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > I'm heading down > to > Tampa/St. Pete this Friday, and we'll be minifesting with Jerry, > (Boston) Jim > Leonard, Cindy S, Em (where did you go, Em???) and anyone else who > wants to join > in. We'll be at Skipper's Smokehouse Friday night ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:22:08 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC & PC) Excellent Garrison Keillor piece Bob replied to my earlier post: > Another one I just discovered: _http://www.commondreams.org/_ > (http://www.commondreams.org/) > A fine fine piece from Garrison Keillor there today. Per chance are you talking about this piece? (Our wonderful Sharon "Bee Keeper" Buffington forwarded it to me.) "We're Not in Lake Wobegone Anymore" http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/083004F.shtml Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:53:08 +0100 From: colin Subject: The L Word njc I just saw the first epeisode and not sure what i think yet. is this going to be serious drama or is it just a tit and bum fest? Girls? - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:05:43 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC & PC) Excellent Garrison Keillor piece In a message dated 9/1/2004 7:30:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com writes: "We're Not in Lake Wobegone Anymore" Yep - I liked it a lot. And I would like to read columnists from the right but I'll be damned if I can find any that make me think, or even make sense. Cal Thomas? Ann Coulter? I think not. I do read a website daily that focuses on the electoral vote from a Republican slant, and it's a good one. Would gladly welcome others if anyone has info. An excerpt from Keillor: "The concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the few is the death knell of democracy. No republic in the history of humanity has survived this. The election of 2004 will say something about what happens to ours. The omens are not good." Again, what frustrates me so is the large number of people who fail to see the road we're on. Kerry may not be our salvation, but at least he'll slow down the out-of-control vehicle. Bob NP: Ani, "Back Back Back", Sacramento, 10/23/03 (from her own "official bootleg", so she gets to profit from it) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: i've gone Bi njc You know, I've been wearing bifocals for a few years. I've got the ones where you can't see the line on them, so I can fool people into believing I'm really not so old. I don't notice a great deal of difference when I'm reading but, if the print is really tiny, I still have to take my glasses off and put the thing I'm reading right in front of my face and squint. It doesn't help that I'm nearsighted as a bat to begin with. If I wear contact lenses, I still need to wear reading glasses, so I wonder what's the point. Why would nature make people's eyesight change after the age of 40 or thereabouts? It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Maybe we're supposed to be weak prey and get weeded out by predators or something? tantra_apso wrote:I finally gave in and got my first pair of bi -focals. It makes such a difference to be able to see when knitting, reading, grooming! - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:37:21 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: the week before jonifest - njc hello my dears: my dear dear friend roberto (who was deeply missed at jfest2004) came to new york the week before and we had wonderful wonderful times: - - seeing sondheim's 'the frogs' on broadway, with nathan lane and others - - lee bontecou and tall buildings at MOMA - - seeing mark morris dance company, which involved hearing montiverdi madrigals, a bach cantata and concerto and haydn, all live and beautifully performed, with brilliant, sensitive, musical dance in front - - childe hassam at the met museum - - 'wonderful town' on broadway, everything that musical comedy should be - - central park and the museum of the city of new york - - my voice teacher jamie leonhart doing a sizzling jazz set in harlem - - 'musical of musicals' with roberto and my sister. jerry, it was better than ever and roberto and karen were just as perfect theatre-goers to share that share that experience as you and frank were. theatre queens getting nearly every reference. by the way, 'musical of musicals' has been extended and extended and looks to go into another theater. sondheim has come to see the show (was very warm) and eric rockwell (the composer, and an acquaintance of mine) now carries a picture of sondheim, joanne bogart (the lyricist) and himself in his wallet. cool! and on tuesday, ethel (string quartet) joe jackson and todd rundgren live under the stars in central park, and quite brilliant and on jfest eve, dinner with stryngs, the whole band, including the ldb, derek, clearly sweet and wonderful from first meeting. and that was all just before jfest! next post, my fest appreciation. have a wonderful time! patrick np - bjork, medulla "the child is so sweet, and the girls are so rapturous. isn't it lovely how artists can capture us?" 'children and art', from sondheim's 'sunday in the park with george' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:59:42 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: freshman blues Bob, After the third one, it gets easier. Our youngest is now a college senior, where does the time go? ( Joni quote, what song everybody????) What a sweet post about your feelings. You really are in touch with 'em. Missed meeting you in the flesh at Full Moon. I am so enjoying your Sweet Sixteen Vol 3 that you donated for welcome gifts??? ( I think, we came home with so much stuff,,,,) Shooby dooby doo Woke up , it was a Chelsea morning!!!!! Way cool version. Hang in there and he's so close. Janine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 21:13:43 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: The L Word njc > I just saw the first epeisode and not sure what i think yet. is this > going to be serious drama or is it just a tit and bum fest? > Girls? Serious drama with some very funny stories as well. Some tits & bums, but none of them are all that sexy, imo, although the women themselves are. The first episode was the weakest. Stick it out, Colin; I think you'll like it. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 21:16:47 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: freshman blues In a message dated 9/1/2004 9:00:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sherm an@netrax.net writes: I am so enjoying your Sweet Sixteen Vol 3 that you donated for welcome gifts??? Thanks Janine (and thanks to Jenny's husband Erik who saved the day for us all with a last-minute emergency Post Office run) - I was happy to put that together for a special fest giveaway, I think it's a real nice collection of the best Joni covers I've heard in the last year or so. I really would have liked to meet you after all the emails and music we've exchanged over the years. Oh well, someday. The tracklisting for Volume 3 is: 1. Diana Krall b Black Crow 2. Karrin Allyson b Help Me 3. Jibe Project b Chelsea Morning 4. Holly Near/Cris Williamson b Tea Leaf Prophecy 5. Don Conoscenti b River 6. Azure McCall b Shades of Scarlett Conquering 7. Jacqui Dankworth b Man From Mars 8. Catherine Moon b The Beat of Black Wings 9. Max Leake b Both Sides Now 10. The Uptown Trio b Song For Sharon 11. Bill Lancton b Woodstock 12. Danilo Perez b The Fiddle And The Drum 13. Terri Lyne Carrington b Ethiopia 14. The Fourth Stream b In France They Kiss On Main Street 15. Fabio Ranza & Elisabetta Zamberlan b Moon At The Window 16. K.D. Lang - Jericho Am happy to make additional copies for the non-fest attendees that want a copy for a nominal donation to the JMDL site. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:30:40 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: i've gone Bi njc Catherine writes: << Why would nature make people's eyesight change after the age of 40 or thereabouts? It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Maybe we're supposed to be weak prey and get weeded out by predators or something? >> I wouldn't worry, Catherine, unless you see bears around your tent. XO and miss you, - --Smurf "I love the nightlife and apple pie." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:34:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: i've gone Bi njc Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote:Catherine writes: << Why would nature make people's eyesight change after the age of 40 or thereabouts? It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Maybe we're supposed to be weak prey and get weeded out by predators or something? >> I wouldn't worry, Catherine, unless you see bears around your tent. XO and miss you, The beauty of it is... I wouldn't be able to see the bear! Miss you too - mwah! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:43:12 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: freshman blues Papa Muller writes: << I think it's a real nice collection of the best Joni covers I've heard in the last year or so. >> I agree, Bob. And thanks. At one point on Friday afternoon during the Jonifest weekend I thought people were getting a little off-subject, so I sat in an Adirondack chair on the lawn at Full Moon and had my own private fest-within-a-fest moment as I listened to most of Sweet Sixteen, Vol. III. It is great. I remember you -- Bob -- raving on list about the Near/Williamson "Tea Leaf" and it is wonderful. Thank you so much. Covers Frisbee wasn't the same this year knowing you weren't sound asleep nearby. - --Smurf, who will post about his fest experiences when the lawyers give the okay "I am a Nancy Boy Doodle Dandy." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:50:43 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: The L Word njc About a lesbian-themed TV show, Lori writes: << Stick it out, Colin; I think you'll like it. >> Please people, don't give wiseguys like me easy material like this. - --Smurf NPIMH: The WInd Cries Pitassi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 22:53:24 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: freshman blues THAT"S a fecking LIE! I told Smurph that I saw him doing that and I was gonna blow the whistle on him but I am sure he is lying. He WAS playing frisbee on the front lawn tho, THAT mushc is true. Paz (NOT one to kiss and tell) Papa Muller writes: > > << I think it's a real nice collection of > the best Joni covers I've heard in the last year or so. >> > > > I agree, Bob. And thanks. At one point on Friday afternoon during the > Jonifest weekend I thought people were getting a little off-subject, so I sat > in an > Adirondack chair on the lawn at Full Moon and had my own private > fest-within-a-fest moment as I listened to most of Sweet Sixteen, Vol. III. It > is great. I > remember you -- Bob -- raving on list about the Near/Williamson "Tea Leaf" and > it is wonderful. Thank you so much. Covers Frisbee wasn't the same this year > knowing you weren't sound asleep nearby. > > --Smurf, who will post about his fest experiences when the lawyers give the > okay > > > "I am a Nancy Boy Doodle Dandy." > > --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 02:20:27 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 2 On September 2 the following articles were published: 1970: "Joni Mitchell" - ZigZag (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=424 1974: "Drums Get Wet Along Red Rocks" - Denver Post (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1137 1978: "Bread and Roses Program Book" - Bread and Roses (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=46 1979: "Mitchell And Mingus - an Odd Couple That Worked" - Charlotte Observer (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=874 1998: "Joni Mitchell Is Not A Woman" - Scotsman (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=321 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 07:18:12 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: i've gone Bi njc Catherine McKay wrote: >You know, I've been wearing bifocals for a few years. I've got the ones where you can't see the line on them, so I can fool people into believing I'm really not so old. I don't notice a great deal of difference when I'm reading but, if the print is really tiny, I still have to take my glasses off and put the thing I'm reading right in front of my face and squint. It doesn't help that I'm nearsighted as a bat to begin with. If I wear contact lenses, I still need to wear reading glasses, so I wonder what's the point. Why would nature make people's eyesight change after the age of 40 or thereabouts? It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Maybe we're supposed to be weak prey and get weeded out by predators or something? > > > Being short sighted, i had no idea I'd also still go longsighted in my 40's! I wear a pair of half moon glasses on achain around my neck when I wear contacts. I get the best visdoj for close wortk that way, better than wearing bi's. My bi's are not varificals and the line is not visible on the side that others see. Oh and I also have them photochromic now as my eyes seem to have also become sensitive to light! What with my walking sticks, my bi's, and my propensity to complian in supermarkets abouyt quality, I really am getting old! - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #365 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)