From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #364 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 1 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 364 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: kds joni covers [Catherine McKay ] Re: k. d.'s Joni covers [Catherine McKay ] Re: k. d.'s Joni covers ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: "ACOY" Joni/k.d.lang Pronoun Debate... [Catherine McKay ] Re: "ACOY" Joni/k.d.lang Pronoun Debate... [Brian Gross ] jonifest 2004 (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Jonifest posts - NJC ["Cynthia Vickery" ] Re: Jonifest 2004 ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Jonifest posts - NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] Re: Jonifest posts - NJC [Catherine McKay ] RE: Jonifest posts - NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: jonifest 2004 (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: jonifest 2004- the requested lyrics(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Dan Fogelberg SJC [Lindsay Moon ] APB [Michael Paz ] RE: Jonifest (very long) - NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] the raffle! ["Maggie McNally" ] Re: Dan Fogelberg SJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: APB CANCELLED!!!!!! [Michael Paz ] Joni & Dan [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Gino NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Jonifest ["janine sherman" ] Well done and thank you, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Jonifest is over njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Jonifest is over njc part deux [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: kds joni covers --- Rob & Tracy wrote: > OK, now I have to chime in - although I too > understood the meaning from the > beginning, it still bothers me, and I'll tell you > why: part of a good song, > and a good cover of a song, for that matter, is the > ways in which it can suck > you in, if you will... the way you can feel it. > Thus, even though kd is a > lesbian, if she sang the original lyrics, and pulled > it off, I think it would > be all that more powerful, especially with us > knowing that while there is no > way she'll "go to HIM", she still sings so > passionately and emotionally that > we are there with her. Ok, that probably didn't > make a whole hell of a lot of > sense, but I can't think of how to articulate this > any better. [...] It's like > the Counting Crow's versin of BYT - I have never > been a fan of any covers of > that song, but that one was allright, until the "and > a big yellow taxi took my > girl away..." part. It just sounds so.... gross and > bland without the old > man. I have absolutely no problem with a man singing as a woman, or a woman as a man. Or with a lesbian singing as a straight person or a gay man singing straight, and so on. If you're singing a song that someone else wrote, you become an actor and the song is your role. If you're a good actor/singer, then people should be able to hear you in the role without any problem. Just my opinion. I agree with you about the Counting Crows version of BYT. They didn't need to change the words to "took my girl away". It loses the rhyme that way anyway. And "old man" can refer to father as well. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: k. d.'s Joni covers - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > **Again I so agree... a stoooopid line, using it is > not only vague its lazy > writing... & why mess with the master? Imo > > > > > But it suddenly occurred to me...what if she was > talking about "Cousin It" > from The Addams Family? Then it all makes sense - > LOL! > > Bob Well then, she should have changed another part to this: You're in my throat like holy hairballs You taste so fuzzy and so sweet. As far as changing the words of the master (mistress?), I agree to a point, except that Joni has done it herself. A quick and obvious example - "strains of [whoever is convenient at the time] coming through the [optional] [smoke and the something-or-other] trees." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:39:31 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: k. d.'s Joni covers Richard >Ok guys, don't get me wrong. I love Joni as much as the next of you all....< we know you love rufus more... ;~} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:41:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "ACOY" Joni/k.d.lang Pronoun Debate... - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > **Gender issues > really seem irrelevant. It's about love, man. > > > > > I very much agree with you, Harry...when I sang > "Amelia" at Jonifest 1999, > it didn't really cross my mind to change the lyric > > "it's so hard to obey his sad request of me to > kindly stay away" > "I rushed into his arms" > And any time I hear Les Ross singing The Magdalene Laundries, I believe him when he says he was an unmarried girl. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:19:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Jonifest posts To anyone who posted about Jonifest more than about 12 hrs ago, if you've saved a copy of your post, would y'all mind forwarding it to me? I've volunteered to do the html for the jmdl site and had deleted some of these without thinking about it. And to any who sent a post to Ashara to be read at fest, be assured that was done and greatly appreciated - however, could y'all send a copy of that post to me as well? (Ashara, if you're listening and you've got 'em, maybe you could forward them all to me?) To anyone who is joni-only, sorry for the bandwidth, but wanted to make sure this hit anyone who might have attended, or sent greetings, who might be joni-only. Merci. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: "ACOY" Joni/k.d.lang Pronoun Debate... > > **Gender issues > > really seem irrelevant. It's about love, man. > --- My bro, Bob Muller wrote: > > I very much agree with you, Harry...when I sang > > "Amelia" at Jonifest 1999, > > it didn't really cross my mind to change the lyric > > > > "it's so hard to obey his sad request of me to > > kindly stay away" > > "I rushed into his arms" - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > And any time I hear Les Ross singing The Magdalene Laundries, I believe him > when he says he was an unmarried girl. Now me: Having been privileged to withness Les Ross' performance at a past Jonifest, I would have to say that his version of The Magdalene Laundries is much more soulful than even Joni's. Brought tears to my eyes, and those of others, too. take care everyone, Brian np: npr ===== Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:29:53 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Jonifest posts - NJC > could y'all send a copy of that post to me as well? Catherine, I realize you're from southern Canada, but ... "y'all"?? : D Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:18:34 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: jonifest 2004 (njc) Finally arrived home around 9ish last night, after driving around in circles with Les Irvin and Strings. Les drove us over some hills a couple of times. Where does the time go? Perhaps if we had driven in circles for another hour or so we might have been quite illuminated or sufficiently dizzy or so disoriented that we drove back to Full Moon. As it turned out, my plane, which had been scheduled to depart at 3pm(which I would have undoubtedly missed) was delayed till 3:55, then delayed again till 4:25pm, then sat on the runway, till about 5:30 or so. The staff on the plane was incredibly gracious, bringing out drinks several times, got a complimentary shot of Baileys( and it seemed to be whispering all these really nice things to me...quite odd), a guy sitting in front of me was completely rude to the stewardess though kudos to her....she stood her ground and said "I'm walking around in turbulence to bring you drinks....you could be a little more polite." Oh, and I forgot, one of the Delta representatives at the gate was a complete ass, telling me I had too many bags and had to check one in (which was complete B.S....I think he just chose to give me hard time because I was a scruffy looking musician with a guitar)....made me stand there for almost 10 minutes, letting everyone else go by...then says something to the effect of youcanboard whatareyoustandingthereforyouidiot! I thought I had to work today but am enjoying an unexpected but welcome day off as it is difficult to once again adjust back into the other world. Definately though, this weekend ranks up very high and quite possibly was the best jonifest ever. It would get my vote. Being at the soundboard all weekend, I was intently focused on every performance and was just blown away by it all. Amazing, amazing...I can't really even single any one thing out as it was all so good. More people showed up this year at the pool hall which was rather nice. Kay Ashley enjoyed a short reign as queen of the diehard latenighters but was usurped Sunday night by heavyweights Johnson and Paz who stayed up till 5:30 and 6 respectively with Big Al who came by with a plethora of treats including nachos, salsa and rum. And did Donna Binkley take her annual dip in the pond? We will never tell... ; > ) and she will of course deny it vehemently. Top 10 lines and moments from Jonifest 2004 10. "Claud, can I borrow your box?" 9. "Well , whoopdefuckdedoo!" 8. " Hey, bitch, I'm trying to plug into your hole." 7. Golden Lady, Golden Lady...cascading higher and higher in Ethel Mermen ecstasy. 6. "Victor, could you turn me off...you can turn me on later!" 5. "Pink, pink pink pink pink moon........" [pink balloon hovers in and out of Kay Ashley's face] 4. The "Kicking My Bitches" girls music review 3. "Well, we ought to just chop their feet off and let them jump up and down till they run out."(Dave Matthews, talking about people who are cutting down all the trees) 2. The little "Guide to Pleasure" book that somehow didn't make it into the welcome package. 1. Announcing my engagement to Strings......I will be moving to London imminently though Michael Paz pleaded "Why can't we go on as three...." so we will split our time between the UK and New Orleans. 0. Claudia's late night dance in front of the fireplace. more to come.... Victor NP: Joni Mitchell "Lesson in Survival" Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:57:03 -0500 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: Jonifest posts - NJC i'm officially claiming that as yet another example of my evil influence. mmwhahahaha! love - c <> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:23:03 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Jonifest 2004 Geez! Mags! Wow! Wowie!!! I was reading this and it took a moment to sink in! Sorry that I am just catching up on digests. I had heard different things like Kilauren and Joni were estranged so my heart is really warmed to read your story. Pleasant journeys on your Heijeira and please tell us how it all went when you return home!!!! Love, Sherelle Mags wrote: oh geeze Michael, I guess it's time to confess about what is really going on. Now, I realize that you aren't even there (no pun intended ;-) as you are on your way to the Full Moon resort in the Catskills. As you have no doubt heard through the grapevine, I've been travelling in some vehicle across the Canadian landscape for nearly three months now. It's been a life long dream and for that I am eternally grateful. Whilst on my hejira, I travelled to Saskatoon and met up with Kilauren and Joni in a book store downtown. Of course I tried my best to not react (inside I was screeching (hi Wally)......OMG it's really JONI !!!!!! I did my best to pull myself together so I could decide what to do. I decided, okay, chance of a life time. I said hello to Kilauren first and I was greeted with that famous smile. All of a sudden I found myself engaged in conversation with the two of them as if I had known them all my life. As it has been said before, Joni is gracious and as down to earth as everyone says. She quickly put me at ease and we were able to have the most "normal" and wonderful conversation. I mentioned that I met someone from her past in a little bar here in town at the beginning of the summer, and she just smiled. We spoke at length about the Joni Fest and while she is touched that we Jmdlers do the song and celebration thing in her honour, she feels that "being there" might be a little too overwhelming. Joni was intrigued to know that hre fans travel from all over the world to share in a magical weekend in the Catskill Mountains at the Full Moon resort. A wonderful group of people who truly care about one another, who spend an entire year planning and looking forward to this special gathering in her name. You should have seen the look on her face as I told her that we work so hard to represent and live into her spirit with a view to honouring her and her work. We were all a little misty eyed; her green eyes glowing, and a slow smile spread across her face. Kilauren gushed with pride. And then, a long sigh. At that point, Joni turned her head aside to compose herself I suppose. And all the while, there's Kilauren, beautiful sparkly eyes, smiling and speaking in a voice that is SO much like Joni herself, it is astounding!! Joni and Kilauren were like two giggly girls on a shopping spree...it was fantastic!!! Joni talked about her new projects and and it was so interesting to hear her view of things in the music industry and beyond. . Joni is enjoying time with the grandbabies, and Kilauren of course...and she says that things have mellowed out immensely with Myrtle...so all seems to be well in her world. Joni is enjoying her painting and continues to poke fun at the music industry..and said that her words often get so twisted out of proportion, but she just laughs it all away. A moment in time that I will long remember... thrilled to the marrow that I was even in the same room. I've only seen Joni in concert twice in my entire life, both times, I wasnt close enough to "see" her for myself, so it was such a thrill. I guess that's about all I have to say . I wanted to wait until the Festers were well on their way as to not rain on the parade of excitement. The only thing I really wish is that it was in fact April the first, because this little story is all a fabrication ;-) love and joy to all of those who are there, and to the rest who, like me, could not attend this year, we are watchiing it from the wings. Our weekend, wherever we are, and whomever we may be with, will be just as special. We will live into all of our very own Joni moments and memories as we share in this wondrous place I like to think of as my Joni family. love, Mags. _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:07:33 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Jonifest posts - NJC She's been hanging out with good ole southern girls...you know how that rubs off. x, Maggie - -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fye [mailto:lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:30 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Jonifest posts - NJC > could y'all send a copy of that post to me as well? Catherine, I realize you're from southern Canada, but ... "y'all"?? : D Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:06:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Jonifest posts - NJC Too much hanging around with southerners. I love "y'all" and I love y'all. Lori Fye wrote:> could y'all send a copy of that post to me as well? Catherine, I realize you're from southern Canada, but ... "y'all"?? : D Lori Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Jonifest posts - NJC Well, y'all just know it does, Sugah! I'm just gonna move my ass on down south of the Mason-Dixon line and change my name to Scahlett or Blanche Dubois. When we did that linguistic test that one of y'all posted a while back, I did end up being "Dixie", so it all makes sense. I never did care for snow and I have always relied on the kindness of strangers. Maggie McNally wrote:She's been hanging out with good ole southern girls...you know how that rubs off. x, Maggie - -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fye [mailto:lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:30 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Jonifest posts - NJC > could y'all send a copy of that post to me as well? Catherine, I realize you're from southern Canada, but ... "y'all"?? : D Lori Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:33:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jonifest 2004 (njc) Victor, thank you so much for being the Sound Dude. I know that's a lot of work, and you probably take a lot of heat from a lot of people any time any little thing goes wrong. You did this as a volunteer. You didn't have to do it, but do it you did. Kudos to you, buddy. It was stressful enough to me being the sort-of-unofficial photographer and will continue to be stressful until I get my piccies back tomorrow because I won't know until then if they worked out or not. The digital stuff turned out OK and there's things I can do with them using Photoshop and so on to make them look a bit clearer where needed. And yet, one feels compelled to do an excellent job, so as not to let anyone down. You rock, Mistah J! And would you mind posting the words to both "Happy fucking birthday" and "Kickin' my bitches". The bitches had me in stitches Sunday night (or really Monday morning) down at the barn. Victor Johnson wrote: Being at the soundboard all weekend, I was intently focused on every performance and was just blown away by it all. Amazing, amazing...I can't really even single any one thing out as it was all so good. [...] 4. The "Kicking My Bitches" girls music review Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:22:02 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: jonifest 2004- the requested lyrics(njc) > And would you mind posting the words to both "Happy fucking birthday" and "Kickin' my bitches". The bitches had me in stitches Sunday night (or really Monday morning) down at the barn. Happy Fucking Birthday by Mark Richard Happy fucking birthday to you, Looks like another years gone down the tubes. You don't look a day over (add 20 years to actual age) So happy fucking birthday to you. On the day that you were born, The doctor's face turned red. He went to pinch your cheeks, But slapped your mom instead. You'll probably live to be a hundred and two. So happy fucking birthday to you, and many more, Happy fucking birthday to you. Kickin' My Bitches by Alan Joyner Now listen here bitches if you hang with me, There's just one thing you've got to see. I'm a bad motherfucker and the choice is mine, I be kickin' my bitches, to keep them in line. I don't ever slap them or mess with their face, I be kickin' my bitches all over the place. When I get mad my kickin' foot twitches, That's why I be kickin' my bitches. I kick em with class, I kick em with style, I be kickin' my bitches in the vertical smile. I kick em with style, I kick em with class, I be kickin' my bitches, dead in the ass. I don't ever slap them or mess with their face, I be kickin' my bitches all over the place. I don't do nothin' that requires no stitches, That's why I be kickin' my bitches. Com' ere bitch, let me kick you... If you ask me why I do it, well I really can't say, I guess Mother Nature just made me that way. If you ask me why I do it, well I really don't know, I guess cause Satan done told me so. I gotta do something to save my soul, Cause I'm falling down a big, black hole. I'm going to hell with all the devils and the witches, That's why I be kickin' my bitches. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:24:56 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: Jonifest first timer Janine please post where appropriate I'm asking Janine to post this for me since I'm not registered. Thanks to all of you at Jonifest 2004 for your friendship and your music from a Jonifest first-timer! Wow! What a cool group of immensely talented musicians and wonderful down -to - -earth folks. From the main evening performances, to the Song Circle, to the Pool Room, to the Barn I was in awe of the talent and thankful for all the music that was shared. To date, I haven't yet tried any of Joni's alternate tunings, but with the inspiration from her and all of you, I have decided that it is something I have to try. If the tab website performance drops it may be because I'm downloading a bunch of files ;-). I know I am a mediocre musician, but all of you made me feel just as welcome as anyone else that was there and that was very much appreciated. Janine and I both had a great time! I wish you all much happiness and hope to cross paths in the future, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:06:58 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Dan Fogelberg SJC Well, I've now read the bio on Dan, and his career pretty much parallels Joni's and she is mentioned several times in his bio as being an influence (and Russell emailed me she sang backup on Nexus on his album "The Innocent Age." (I probably have that in my collection of albums and I don't know why that fact escaped me. Thanks, Russle!) Some examples: He majored in art and then turned to music. He came to LA in the early '70s w/his manager Irving Azoff who set up an office across the street from David Geffen who had signed Joni by that point. He had Graham Nash and members of the Eagles, etc. sing backup on his first album and he worked with Joe Walsh. He lived on Lookout Mountain in Laurel Canyon for a year and a half. Cites Joni as an influence for changing stream and writing less first-person, more third-person songs (i.e., Hissing) for "Windows & Walls" and says like Joni he was lambasted for it. Has a cabin on an island in Maine instead of British Columbia. He did foray off into bluegrass (and that's where he lost me) whereas Joni went into jazz, and he doesn't seem to smoke like a chimney. But I thought it was pretty interesting. I'll tell you, if there *was* something going on romantically between them, I wouldn't blame her. He's almost as good-looking as Bob Muller ... ; ) Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:12:32 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: APB A am sending out a desperate ALL POINTS BULLETIN!!!!! I have misplaced the camera I had a Jonifest and cannot find it amongst my stuff that I brought home. This camera is expensive and most important NOT MINE to lose. The last time I remember it for sure was at the performance space. I might have thrown it in Sue's van and forgot it there. Sue did you find it?? I called Full Moon and they have not found it yet. I am waiting to hear back from Les who I shared rides with and hope maybe I left it in the car. Thanks Love Paz (sensory depraved) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:13:31 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Jonifest (very long) - NJC Ah, yes, we have succeeded in converting another one...by dint of being authentic, kind, fun, Joni-loving folks. Halleluiah! I wanted to add my words on the subject of this year's fest. It was smaller in numbers, but I left with my heart as full of love as any time before and my smile was no less throughout the weekend. The music was amazing, both that which I heard from the stage in the performance space, and that which came at me from every corner of Full Moon. A few favorite recollections include watching Rachael up there on stage playing violin - Rachel you rock! The addition of Derrick and the drum kit...how cool was that and how cool is he? I just love all the guys and the gal that make up Stryngs - each one adds something special and unique and the whole is even greater than the sum of the parts. I loved that this year's fest was more mellow with more expanses of un-scripted time. Trade-offs, you know, because I hated that folks I had come to know and love were not there. A real "moment" came so unexpectedly, the way they often do at Jonifest. Claudia, Patrick, Barbara and I decided to drive into Woodstock together. Windows rolled down on a drop-dead beautiful Catskills day. Claudia starts up the music for us and on comes "All I Want." Now, I've got a voice that's like nails-on-blackboard off-key, but I love to sing and the car's the safe place for me to do it. I kind of forgot where I was for a moment and started to sing. Then I hear Claudia's pure soprano chime in, and Barbara and Patrick, and all of a sudden I'm in a choir of angels and we know not only the words, but the inflection, the pauses, the swoops. Claudia and I smile at each other at the perfection that is life in that moment...and I think, this is heaven. I may not believe in the kind of god that sits up in heaven and smiles or frowns down on us, but I believed in god (small "g") in that moment. Sunday night I went down to the pool room and hung with the largest crowd I have ever seen there. I have an image in my mind's eye that will have to hold me until next time - sitting in the corner next to Cindy, looking out at a circle (well, as much as we create bona fide circles) at Jason's back as he played guitar and we were all wowed because he had stood back and let his beautiful young daughter Rachael take the spotlight all weekend, and Chuck E., Les Ross, Jenny, Strings, Les Irvin, Mary P., Suze, Sue, Meg, Claudia, Kay, Barbara, Victor, Donna, Lori, Paz (and you know there may be more, but give me a break, it was 3:00 a.m.) watched and listened in appreciation and with love. My heart filled with how much all of these people, and all of those with whom I have shared these moments, mean to me. I couldn't stand the thought of so many goodbyes and so I decided to just slip away, get to bed and remember it forever. Love, Maggie - -----Original Message----- From: janine sherman [mailto:sherman@netrax.net] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:39 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Jonifest (very long) Clear Day After so many years of not attending Jonifest for one reason or another, this year I (we) finally made it. To anyone out there contemplating, get thyself to one of these amazing gatherings before they dry up! You don't get much sleep and the tap water is yellow, but to quote Paz, "You can sleep when you're dead," uttered around 2 AM on the way to the barn to play, sing, and drink hours more. I do not think I can rightfully credit all of the fabulous people who welcomed us and made it such a memorable couple of days, but I will attempt to try to name a few. Firstly, I must thank Paz again for encouraging Dan and I to attend and nudging him to sing and play his guitar. Having personally met you in NOLA last year was really the impetus for our attendance. What a joy to see you wild and free in the Catskills. Hey, Dan wants to know what that dirty song is you kept playing and singing about "screw all my friends, steal all my records....." he wants to learn it! Ashara is SO utterly siquomb! Thanks for your attention and generosity.Your "world music debut" gave me chills- you were absolutely born to sing it. Lori, my Canton, Ohio sis was the best little ambassador a gal could ask for! Thanks for all the direction and behind- the -scenes catch ups! You go girl on that Yamaha. Strings is about the most delightful and darling diva from the UK imaginable. Thanks for the gorgeous music. To the male Stryngs: Chris, Les, Derek, and Martin you guys ain't too shabby either. Carry on mates, see you in October in London. I'll be in touch for some UK travel advice. We listened to your CD the whole drive back from the garden. Smashing! Victor, the gentle Georgian.guitarist! (keyboardist Human Wurlitzer, and technician..et al) What a sweet, kind, loving, childlike disposition. I want to package his innocent, consuming love of music and send it off to the music industry execs. Good luck to you and have fun cooking in that Blue pot! Thanks for all your devotion to the creation of such beautiful music for us all to enjoy. Maggie, you are such a sweetheart and cutie and bubbly little thing. You take care of business with such warmth and charm. Thanks for rigging the raffle so we could win so much cool stuff! I still do not know how to exactly explain the Donald-Joni tonguing print to my friends or relatives. Any ideas on where you would hang it? All of the performers at this party blew us away. I can not wait to watch last year's DVD's ( thanks to the raffle) to see and hear you all perform again. I know I have blabbed enough- you just do not know how fabulous you made our weekend. To all of you nonperformers I met and spoke to and failed to mention by name (please accept my apology for lack of space) never fear, you are near and dear in my heart and mind. I am smiling thinking of you all. Hey Smurph, the Sugarpants script should be published on the website, it was brilliant. I esp. loved the part about "acting like tourists" bit thrown in from her Isle of Wight lecture to the crowd. So witty and comical. Thanks to everyone involved in this event. Departing was like leaving Home to come back to where we live. Much love and kisses, Janine P. S. Anyone know if John and his mother, Maura, made it back to the city. I am so cracking up thinking of them on the porch of Full Moon. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:18:14 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: the raffle! Sending out thanks to all of you who donated items to the raffle, and of course to those who bought tickets. We raised $425, to be split between underwriting some expenses that incurred by JMDL web site and fest scholarships. Now, start thinking about something you can create for the next one, whenever/wherever it may be...cause you just know we can't let the magic stop. You creative types, start your engines! With love and gratitude, Maggie PS Sorry for the lack of a NJC tag, but I wanted those who donated who might be Joni-onlies to get the word too. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:09:20 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg SJC **He's almost as good-looking as Bob Muller ... Wow - thanks for lifting my spirits on a melancholy day, Lindsay - woo-hoo! Melancholy because I took the day off work to move my one and only child into his college dorm, and then made the drive home leaving him behind. :~( But I'm excited for him, it's a GREAT school and he's gonna have a great time. And he's only half an hour away - yippee! I thought about 'The Circle Game' all day, and didn't even cry until I got home. But anyway, what was the topic? Oh yeah, Fogelberg....true that Joni sings a very nice coda vocal on "Nexus", I'm also pretty sure that Dan the man is part of "The Lookout Mountain United Downstairs Choir" on The same Circle Game that was in my head all day. Fogelberg had an outstanding hat trick in the 70's with "Souvenirs-Captured Angel-Netherlands", three gorgeous & flawless records. Like Joni he played a bunch of different instruments and did the artwork as well. Thanks again for making my day - a nice compliment from a California blonde who's no slouch in the looks department herself! Bob NP: Eric Burdon & The Animals, "Sky Pilot" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:28:58 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: APB CANCELLED!!!!!! This just in. My camera was found my the ever wonderful Les Irvin. Thanks for playing. I will post the pics as soon as I get it in the mail. I am still working on my report, but it's too fecking hot in my house (our AC is broke argh. I feel like I am back in the performance space at Full Moon.) Hope everyone made it home ok and I love and miss you all. Yes even you G my former bitch who stood me up for our date in the pool room on the last night. Paz > A am sending out a desperate ALL POINTS BULLETIN!!!!! > I have misplaced the camera I had a Jonifest and cannot find it amongst my > stuff that I brought home. This camera is expensive and most important NOT > MINE to lose. The last time I remember it for sure was at the performance > space. I might have thrown it in Sue's van and forgot it there. Sue did you > find it?? I called Full Moon and they have not found it yet. I am waiting to > hear back from Les who I shared rides with and hope maybe I left it in the > car. Thanks > > Love > > Paz (sensory depraved) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:05:36 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Joni & Dan In a message dated 8/31/2004 12:01:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > I read recently that Dan Fogelberg has announced he has advanced prostate > cancer. He's reportedly undergoing treatment and is feeling positive about > the outcome. I thought I remembered reading that he and Joni had had a > relationship or met or worked on some music together or something but I > don't find anything in the JMDL archives. Anyone remember such a thing? > > I'm sorry to hear this as he's made some stunning music (and what a > good-looking man). > > Lindsay Well, that's bad news, but we all wish him well, I'm sure. The only Joni-Dan work I know of was Joni singing back-up on one of Dan's songs - someone help me name it - it was on a double LP that was released at the height of his popularity. The song has a Native American sort of feel, if I recall correctly. My vague memory says the song was called "Nexus" but I can't remember the name of the album. Bryan And that's a good reminder to all of us guys to go see the doctor for the awful (though not painful) prostate exam. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:09:34 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Gino NJC Jerry np: Gino Vannelli - Dea Speranza Jerry/All -- I LOVE the Gino Vannelli album that song comes from ("Canto"). It's beautiful, and who knew he could sing like that (gorgeous, powerful "pop opera"). "Wayward Lover" brings me to tears. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:44:37 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: Re: Jonifest Damn, I am sorry we had to leave on Sunday! I love the story about singing All I Want , I can certainly relate to that scene, only solitarily singing as loud as I can. Longingly thinking of Full Moon, Janine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:57:30 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Well done and thank you, njc Ashara, I guess you know it... kinda... uh... It kinda broke my heart to miss JoniFest this year. But... you gave us all one hell of a run. Thanks very, very much. And... ya know... uhnn... you "done" a good thing, kid. All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 01:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Jonifest is over njc I feel strange marking a post such as this njc because the fest is all about Joni, but nevertheless... Northeast Jonifest 04 is finished and it's back to life and reality. I prefer life and unreality of course. I'd like to enumerate some of the highlights of this year's fest but am always mindful of the terrible possibility of leaving anyone out. I hate to be exclusive. It must be middle-child syndrome. So, here is my disclaimer: my failure to mention someone's name in no way implies there is nothing to say about that person; it is merely failure on my part. Forgive me. I am old. Some highlights of this year's fest: Taking the hike up the road to the waterfall, and being the only chick with all those gorgeous men. Let other chiquitas and chiquitos eat their hearts out! Being adopted by the Lezz contingent and made an Honorary Lezz (HL). I really needed a new toaster anyway, so that was fortuitous! Being made a member of Sugar Pants (or Sugar Depends). That was so much fun doing that skit. Many thanks to Bob Murphy for the script and for making me laugh so much I had to wear a big hat and stay slouched down through the whole skit to try to keep from laughing all the way through. Thanks for allowing us to cackle a lot. My almost-date with a bear that visited my tent. Alas, I wasn't home when s/he came to call. If I had been, I would have thought it was one of the Sues playing a trick on me and probably would have tried to tickle Little Bear. I wonder how that would have played out? Thanks to Guzz for scaring it off! Sunday night or really Monday morning hanging out in the pool room. Thanks to Paz (I think!) for forcing me to sing something. Thanks to Victor for the very funny "Kickin' my bitches" song and to the impromptu Vickettes chorus line who kicked it up along with Victor. (Kick with Vic.) People I met for the first time that I'm glad I met (my failure to mention anyone's name by no means implies that I'm NOT glad to have met you. See disclaimer above.): Derek, the multi-talented drummer (and keyboardist and Lord knows what else) who has the most beautiful smile. Mary P - at last, we meet! Get that dirt out of your yurt! Janine and Dan - so great to put a face to the name and I wish we had been able to chat more. (Chat? Did we at all? I know we at least said, Hi.) Megg, Connecticuttian sweetheart of La Guzzi. I have a voodoo doll that might help to ward off the Mauras of the world, if you ever need it! Laura and Betty - I'm so glad you decided to do a set at fest. You are both so talented. Viggo - you're really good-looking, but so two-dimensional! People I had met before but got to know better this time around: Barbara Little - you look so different without the plastic bustier, and I love your hair! The Lezz chicks - thanks for letting me pitch my tent in your backyard and for sharing good times and lots of laughs in the cabin Patrick - hike tour guide, Viggo lookalike and funny, funny all-around guy(with beautiful eyes) Smurf - awwww. What can I say? I love you, Smurf. Will you marry me? Yeah, I know I'm not your type, but a girl can dream. Gisele - you are simply the most talented person I've met in a long, long time. Thanks for the laughs and for revealing the secret of the open C chord with a top D. Play those warm chords! I hope you're feeling better. Les Ross - my early morning coffee-and-conversation bud while the rest of the slobs slothfully slept in. You are just too cool. (P.S. thanks for the drugs) Jenny Goodspeed - such a talented, beautiful and cool-looking performer (P.S. Thanks for the drugs) Sue Cameron - my travelling companion. Thanks for the jokes and the stories and for being my personal chauffeur. It was an honour being your drug mule. (BETA BLOCKERS!!!) Les Irvin - mandolin player supreme. You too make it look so easy. Lori, biker chick and fellow tent enthusiast. Well, I'm not necessarily an enthusiast, but y'know, we do what we have to! Rachel, Jason and Karen - thanks for the Santa Fe and Grand Canyon and beyond photos. If I could choose my family, yours would be it. Claudia - thanks for the sweet, sweet songs Kay Ashley - you could play nothing but "Pink Moon" forever and I'd listen and be happy Donna B - thanks for not doing the pond dip until after I left - LOL! Chris and Sarah "Strings" - thanks for the good music and the jokes. I *get* Smarties and they taste ever so much better than M&Ms. Guzz - thanks for letting me accompany you on "Little Green." And for your amazing rendition of "East of the sun, west of the moon." You are a true jazzer and/or blues mama, so sing it, child! Thanks to the staff of Full Moon who are professional and yet so friendly and laid back that they make you feel like you're a guest in their home and not just some hotel customer. You make it all look so easy. People I missed: everyone else who wasn't there. I'm sure I'd love you if I met you. Weird twilightZonian experiences: John the TaiChi guy and his mother Maura. The odd couple indeed. The wedding party - how dare they take over the front porch! The funny little female that Sue and I met at the general store on the way in to Big Indian. Not sure if she was a kid of about 12 or a grown woman of 30 or so, but I still hear duelling banjos a-playing! I miss all of you and am so greatful for having met you. You all knock the blues right out of my heart and renew my faith in humanity. Get it while I'm maudlin but know that, even when I turn sarcastic on you, I still love y'all and your kindred spirits. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 01:31:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Jonifest is over njc part deux And, of course, a special and singular post to thank ASHARA for putting it all together and making it all possible. You are our MAMA LION and that's much better than BearSSSS any day! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 02:10:40 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 1 On September 1 the following article was published: 1979: "Mitchell jazzy in sound, looks" - Freehold News Transcript (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=868 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #364 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)