From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #352 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, August 20 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 352 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #350 [Garret ] re: misses vol 2. [Garret ] Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #350 [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= ] re: misses vol 2. [Garret ] Paranoia - njc pc [Catherine McKay ] re: Joni's Voice (and Happy Birtdhay) [Garret ] Joni on Television ["robin mortlock" ] Re: Yucca Mountain (NJC) and "Boiling Point" ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni's voice ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni on Television [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Joni's voice [Em ] Re: Joni's voice [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: Joni's voice [=?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= ] Hey New Yorkers! [Lori Fye ] Re: Hey New Yorkers! - Sorry, forgot the ... [Lori Fye ] Re: Joni's voice [Randy Remote ] Re: One more Guinness for all these superfluous compilations! [Randy Remo] re: Joni's Voice ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: Joni's voice [Brian Gross ] Re: Joni's voice [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni's voice [Michael Paz ] Re: INCHES! I meant INCHES!! (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: No Subject [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:52:08 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #350 Hi Wes, although i love FTR (may be my fave JM album), it doesn't contain her finest vocal moment, imo (although it does, as you point out, contain some bloody great vocals). Generally, i think her voice is in fine form on C&S. For me, that's the peak, BUT she doesn't outdo last time i saw richard on that album, or Dry Cleaner (actually, this list is endless, is it not?). Just two cents worth GARRET np- Damian Rice, Moody Mooday Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:39:31 EDT From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: Joni's voice I don't want to start a war with this thought, but I just wanted to postulate that Joni's voice sounds the most beautiful to me on the "For the Roses" album. While it's a wonderful album and a recent favorite, I'm not talking about the music, the lyrics, or the songs as a whole. All I am commenting on are the octaves in her voice. This whole album blows my mind, but I'm going to point out what I mean in a few songs: Take "Banquet" for example, when she sings "logs and sails, and shell oil pails". Or in Barangrill" during the last line "And you even forget to ask (beautiful vocal lift there), Hey' Where's Barangrill?". One last example: in "Lesson in Survival", when she sings "You need to believe in something (octaves trickle downward) once I could in our love", I just want to be a leaf floating down from one of the trees in that forest she's in on the album cover. Just wanted to share. I'd love to hear about others' favorite vocal moments on her albums as well. Thanks, Wes - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:48:24 +0100 From: Garret Subject: re: misses vol 2. I think TBOS differs from Misses in that it has a concept to it other than showcasing songs that Joni feels didn't get enough attention first time round (well, i'm quite sure there is an element of that too actually). The timing of the release is crucial in this; at this point in world affairs and politics - uncertainty and fear - this release is quite timely. Joni has a re-contextualised these songs and is presenting them as a unit, much like her original albums. It hasn't arrived yet, so i don't know if this works (but even if it doesn't, hey, it was cheap. Nods at Les Ross). I'm sort of looknig forward to it (although initially i was very disappointed by teh very thought, admittedly) GARRET NP- Damian Rice, Moody Mooday (you guys must get this new B-sides album, short but very good) ps- i posted that tape a couple of days ago:-) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:54:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: August 18 **I would appreciate it very much if anyone can fill me in on the new CD of Joni's that is out in the US but not in Canada Hi Mags - Yes, it's "Misses, Volume 2" released here in the US of A in July. The official title is "The Beginning Of Survival" and it's a collection of her politically-charged material from the Geffen & beyond years. Nothing new, unless you're excited by the thought of some new matchbook-sized paintings. You can check any basic music website and get the tracklist. And coming next month, it's "Misses Volume 3", also and officially called "Dreamland". It's a random collection of already released Joni tracks, tracklisting also readily available at Amazon.com or other music websites. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:43:52 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #350 Hi I thought I'd chime in a work is being lenient to me as it's my bday... There is a line in the C&S version of Trouble Child which does things to me that I can't explain. It comes around the line of 'Well some are gonna knock you, and some are gonna clock you" and it's the 'knock' in that line that just is so beautiful I can't explain... Can anyone explain? It's not a particularly difficult line but it's just sheer genius. It is sadly missed in the Tlog version. Although some of the Tlog and BSN vocals are heartbreaking in their sadness Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- Garret wrote: > Hi Wes, > although i love FTR (may be my fave JM album), it > doesn't contain her finest > vocal moment, imo (although it does, as you point > out, contain some bloody great > vocals). > Generally, i think her voice is in fine form on C&S. > For me, that's the peak, > BUT she doesn't outdo last time i saw richard on > that album, or Dry Cleaner > (actually, this list is endless, is it not?). > Just two cents worth > GARRET > > np- Damian Rice, Moody Mooday > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:48:24 +0100 From: Garret Subject: re: misses vol 2. I think TBOS differs from Misses in that it has a concept to it other than showcasing songs that Joni feels didn't get enough attention first time round (well, i'm quite sure there is an element of that too actually). The timing of the release is crucial in this; at this point in world affairs and politics - uncertainty and fear - this release is quite timely. Joni has a re-contextualised these songs and is presenting them as a unit, much like her original albums. It hasn't arrived yet, so i don't know if this works (but even if it doesn't, hey, it was cheap. Nods at Les Ross). I'm sort of looknig forward to it (although initially i was very disappointed by teh very thought, admittedly) GARRET NP- Damian Rice, Moody Mooday (you guys must get this new B-sides album, short but very good) ps- i posted that tape a couple of days ago:-) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:54:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: August 18 **I would appreciate it very much if anyone can fill me in on the new CD of Joni's that is out in the US but not in Canada Hi Mags - Yes, it's "Misses, Volume 2" released here in the US of A in July. The official title is "The Beginning Of Survival" and it's a collection of her politically-charged material from the Geffen & beyond years. Nothing new, unless you're excited by the thought of some new matchbook-sized paintings. You can check any basic music website and get the tracklist. And coming next month, it's "Misses Volume 3", also and officially called "Dreamland". It's a random collection of already released Joni tracks, tracklisting also readily available at Amazon.com or other music websites. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:48:24 +0100 From: Garret Subject: re: misses vol 2. I think TBOS differs from Misses in that it has a concept to it other than showcasing songs that Joni feels didn't get enough attention first time round (well, i'm quite sure there is an element of that too actually). The timing of the release is crucial in this; at this point in world affairs and politics - uncertainty and fear - this release is quite timely. Joni has a re-contextualised these songs and is presenting them as a unit, much like her original albums. It hasn't arrived yet, so i don't know if this works (but even if it doesn't, hey, it was cheap. Nods at Les Ross). I'm sort of looknig forward to it (although initially i was very disappointed by teh very thought, admittedly) GARRET NP- Damian Rice, Moody Mooday (you guys must get this new B-sides album, short but very good) ps- i posted that tape a couple of days ago:-) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:54:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today's Library Links: August 18 **I would appreciate it very much if anyone can fill me in on the new CD of Joni's that is out in the US but not in Canada Hi Mags - Yes, it's "Misses, Volume 2" released here in the US of A in July. The official title is "The Beginning Of Survival" and it's a collection of her politically-charged material from the Geffen & beyond years. Nothing new, unless you're excited by the thought of some new matchbook-sized paintings. You can check any basic music website and get the tracklist. And coming next month, it's "Misses Volume 3", also and officially called "Dreamland". It's a random collection of already released Joni tracks, tracklisting also readily available at Amazon.com or other music websites. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Paranoia - njc pc --- mia ortlieb wrote: > Ron wrote: < lies and fear being > shovelled at one, it still affects so much in a > person on some level - deep > down -one wonders if the fears etc are in fact > justified - after all how can > so many people be so consistently wrong?????>> > > Wow, that is a really good question, Ron! I wish I > knew for certain the > answer to that. I think fear is contagious and > makes people do strange > things. A few nurses I know told me that after > 9/11, some of their patients > in the hospital started making lewd harrassing > comments to other nurses, > some even became violent and one guy punched a > pregnant nurse in the belly! > Now the nurses live in fear, so yeah, fear does > affect everyone involved and > creates more fear. Apparently this behavior never > occurred in this hospital > before 9/11, and we are in the midwest, far away > from New York. Also, > sometimes I think people give up too easily and say, > hey if you can't beat > 'em, why not join 'em? People also like to have a > certain comfort level, > and it can be downright uncomfortable to be the > minority voice. Ignorance > is a huge contributing factor...another reason the > 'republichristians' > (thanks Kate!) are desperately trying to dismantle > the public school system > here in the U.S. > > Like Joni once said: "We are all hopelessly > oppressed cowards." After 9/11, we had a white powder incident at my work. There were a bunch of these in the city that day. People started looking funny at anyone who looked remotely like an Arab, whatever that means! If you've ever been through or been close witness to a strike, you will see weird things happening. We've been through two of these where I work in the last 8 yrs or so, and there's the possibility of another one this winter or spring (sigh - can't they wait until after I retire? been through this twice already and that's more than enough!) As the possibility of a strike comes closer, you will see the various workers (union members) begin to take sides and/or to close off from one another. There will be a lot of whispering and secrets going around and a lot of propaganda being distributed and people getting fearful about all kinds of things. Some are fierce unionists and nothing the union says or does can ever be wrong. Others, despite being in union jobs, hate being part of that whole scene and absolutely do not want to strike. (Where I work it's all office workers and it's the big city, so I'm sure it's a lot different in factories, and I know it's it lot different in smaller towns where members of this same union work. In those places, most people are very staunch union supporters and, if they're not, they don't rock the boat.) Where I work, most of the workers are probably kind of in the middle about it - they see the points the union is trying to make and they want changes, but they think going on strike is going too far; or they fear losing so much money that they might lose their homes. So they begin to take sides too and you see real divisions among people, along with a lot of paranoia. You see behaviours you would never expect, with name-calling, shoving, even fistfights breaking out, often among people you just wouldn't expect it from. As a middle manager, not part of the union, I'm expected to come to work and I'm supposed to be neutral. Getting to work wasn't so hard in Toronto, because there were picket line protocols that, for the most part, were observed by both sides, but in the smaller strong-union areas, sometimes the picketers would form a human chain several people deep and no one could cross the line. You would also see people crying because they *really* *wanted* *to* *go* *to* *work* (why?), and all kinds of weird stuff. As a person who can identify with points made by all (wishy washy in other words), I feel for all of them, but often am mind-boggled by the extreme actions and reactions of some people in these circumstances. I'm also kind of glad I'm not in the union, because I don't even have to think about whether I'll try to cross the line. I don't have a choice and that makes it easier for me. People are pack animals and most people want to be part of the pack. In fact, you're almost forced to take sides - people have the "if you're not for us, you're against us" attitude, so sometimes it's not even possible to remain neutral, even when you want to. When the pack goes feral, a lot of people get sucked into something they never thought they would do and sometimes the people you would least expect it of, do the strangest things. With others, you can see it coming a mile off - they were just looking for an excuse to slug someone from the office that they never liked anyway. Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:45:15 +0100 From: Garret Subject: re: Joni's Voice (and Happy Birtdhay) nice tumultuous London for your bday Jamie - work is a blessing in disguise; were you off work you may have been tempted to go on a picnic as it was so fine this morning. you would have been soaked right through! so be glad you'r working (unless your job is park warden, in which case you might be getting wet helping the picnicers to an indoor area;-) Happy birthday. i don't have C&S in london with me, so i was trying to hear that bit in my head. Now, wehn you said trouble child, i read Twisted. so, i'm singing lyrics from trouble child to tune of twisted (or some approximation) and not realising why is sounds so odd. and then im thining twisted is on tlog?? what?? did i miss that completely? it didn't exactly blow my socks off and i really didn't like one of the discs all that much, but i listened to them for a few weeks (occasinally returning to songs like Be Cool) but i would have remembered twisted being on there. lol. GARRET NP- Tom Waits, Martha Quoting Jamie Zubairi : > Hi > I thought I'd chime in a work is being lenient to me > as it's my bday... > > There is a line in the C&S version of Trouble Child > which does things to me that I can't explain. It comes > around the line of > > 'Well some are gonna knock you, and some are gonna > clock you" and it's the 'knock' in that line that just > is so beautiful I can't explain... Can anyone explain? > It's not a particularly difficult line but it's just > sheer genius. > > It is sadly missed in the Tlog version. Although some > of the Tlog and BSN vocals are heartbreaking in their > sadness > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:59:53 +0000 From: "robin mortlock" Subject: Joni on Television Hey all - just read this article about a gig Joni wanted on television. The set list looks completely brilliant and would love to have a copy of this somehow. Does anyone know how to get a recording or any info about this great looking gig. "Joni Mitchell Tries To Bring Concert To Television" - MTV Website > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:27:00 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Yucca Mountain (NJC) and "Boiling Point" Kay > As a former grad student in glacial geology/paleoclimatology, I can tell you that this book is a great place to get some real information. < Well THAT explains how come you know so much about this stuff! LOL... >Think about this: upwards of 30 feet of sea level rise within our lifetimes. 30 FEET. However, Gelbspan is also optimistic and I know that people like Kate Bennett will really appreciate his vision of how this crisis could inspire an evolutionary leap of consciousness and socio-economic justice if we get our shit together in time.< yup there is always that danger + crisis=opportunity thing (did I get it right, its an old Chinese character I think)... & I do admit that I also apprectiate this from a very selfish point of view, having moved from a tiny block away from the beach cottage to a mountain home a few years ago (with a better ocean view than the house near the ocean! But I digress) even with all the fire dangers ... >Go buy "Boiling Point" and read it NOW. (It's a quick read.) OhKay! (get it?) thanks for the recommendation... >I may very well leave this country if Bush steals the election again. Nova Scotia, maybe Sweden... that sounds nice. I really hate being an American right now.< I have considered that but then it angers me greatly to think of having to leave my home because of these evildoers... I wish santa barbara could succeed from this nation... we are a lot like Monaco maybe we exist like that... we just need some royals- lucy!? Lol... anyway let us just hope for a change of administration & work to our best abilities towards getting people to vote & making sure paper is involved (I'm voting absentee like I always do & delivering it to the polling place that day) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:38:55 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni on Television You can Buy the DVD. It ultimately was broadcast on Pay Per View and then other formats as Painting With Words and Music. A must for every Joni fan. Jerry > Hey all - just read this article about a gig Joni wanted on television. > The set list looks completely brilliant and would love to have a copy of > this somehow. Does anyone know how to get a recording or any info about > this great looking gig. > > "Joni Mitchell Tries To Bring Concert To Television" - MTV Website > > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:44:08 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni's voice I wrote about this awhile back but having revisited her first album STAS as we like to refer to it... I love her voice on this record in spite of its (the record's) technical difficulties... & I got 'chicken skin' listening to the often maligned PoP because of all the beautiful interweaving counter harmonies (one of my favorite musical thangs) ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:42:10 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Joni on Television robin mortlock schrieb: > Does anyone know how to get a recording or any info about > this great looking gig. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002CTT44/ http://www.jonimitchell.com/PaintingVideo399.html http://www.eaglevisionusa.com/html/music_p/Joni_M.htm moni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni's voice Hi Kate I am so glad you also like STAS. To me, it is one of the biggest and finest and most deeply colored, and richest stones in the Joni crown. Its probably one of my top 10 albums, anytime, anywhere, anybody. I don't mind the production at all. Yes, PoP is sort of "melodramatic" but hey, so what? and the rest more than makes up for it, and frankly I adore the guitar work on this album. Good healthy guitar. :) Em - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > I wrote about this awhile back but having revisited her first album > STAS as > we like to refer to it... I love her voice on this record in spite of > its > (the record's) technical difficulties... & I got 'chicken skin' > listening to > the often maligned PoP because of all the beautiful interweaving > counter > harmonies (one of my favorite musical thangs) ... > ===== - - - - - - - "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds. " Bob Marley "Redemption Song" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:53:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: Joni's voice Those are all favorite moments of mine Wes. Another one of my favorites, also from FOTR - at the end of 'Electricity' 'She's not gonna fix it up too e-e-e-e-e-easy'. Then from Blue - 'Last Time I Saw Richard'. "Only a dark cocoon before I get my goooooorgeous wings and flyaway..." it slays me every time. Jenny KindTaper@aol.com wrote: I don't want to start a war with this thought, but I just wanted to postulate that Joni's voice sounds the most beautiful to me on the "For the Roses" album. While it's a wonderful album and a recent favorite, I'm not talking about the music, the lyrics, or the songs as a whole. All I am commenting on are the octaves in her voice. This whole album blows my mind, but I'm going to point out what I mean in a few songs: Take "Banquet" for example, when she sings "logs and sails, and shell oil pails". Or in Barangrill" during the last line "And you even forget to ask (beautiful vocal lift there), Hey' Where's Barangrill?". One last example: in "Lesson in Survival", when she sings "You need to believe in something (octaves trickle downward) once I could in our love", I just want to be a leaf floating down from one of the trees in that forest she's in on the album cover. Just wanted to share. I'd love to hear about others' favorite vocal moments on her albums as well. Thanks, Wes Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:43:59 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: Re: Joni's voice If we are talking TLTISR then I prefer the performance in MOA as the band really kick it up a notch and give that section a sense of desparation that is just heartbreaking. I dunno, doing that on stage... brave brave soul Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- Jenny Goodspeed wrote: > Those are all favorite moments of mine Wes. > Another one of my favorites, also from FOTR - at the > end of 'Electricity' 'She's not gonna fix it up too > e-e-e-e-e-easy'. > > Then from Blue - 'Last Time I Saw Richard'. "Only a > dark cocoon before I get my goooooorgeous wings and > flyaway..." > > it slays me every time. > > Jenny > KindTaper@aol.com wrote: > I don't want to start a war with this thought, but I > just wanted to postulate > that Joni's voice sounds the most beautiful to me on > the "For the Roses" > album. While it's a wonderful album and a recent > favorite, I'm not talking about > the music, the lyrics, or the songs as a whole. All > I am commenting on are the > octaves in her voice. This whole album blows my > mind, but I'm going to point > out what I mean in a few songs: > > Take "Banquet" for example, when she sings "logs and > sails, and shell oil > pails". Or in Barangrill" during the last line "And > you even forget to ask > (beautiful vocal lift there), Hey' Where's > Barangrill?". One last example: in > "Lesson in Survival", when she sings "You need to > believe in something (octaves > trickle downward) once I could in our love", I just > want to be a leaf floating > down from one of the trees in that forest she's in > on the album cover. Just > wanted to share. I'd love to hear about others' > favorite vocal moments on her > albums as well. > > Thanks, > Wes > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:58:50 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: The power of religion and differences between US and Canada - njc pc Mia wrote: > I think fear is contagious and makes people do strange things. A few nurses > I know told me that after 9/11, some of their patients in the hospital > started making lewd harrassing comments to other nurses, some even became > violent and one guy punched a pregnant nurse in the belly! This reminds me of an incident that happened on Metrorail (our subway) in DC right after 9/11: One fellow asked another fellow if he would mind if he took the seat next to him. (This is odd enough; that hardly ever happens.) The second fellow ignored the question, so the first fellow asked again. Without warning, the second fellow just up and punched the first fellow in the mouth! Granted, we are in/near DC, and the Pentagon is here (albeit in Virginia). But I do think that people were affected by 9/11 in ways they weren't prepared to consider. Personally, I had to take a sick day the following week and the day after that I found myself crying uncontrollably. Lori, who a few weeks ago rode her motorcycle through the very small town of Shanksville, PA, where the Flight 93 memorial is located ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:11:08 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: holly palmer release NJC hi if anyone is interested...... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/hollypalmer hollys new album "i confess" has been released. ron np - holly palmer - just so you know ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:52:57 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Hey New Yorkers! http://www.shutitdownnyc.com/ Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:17:23 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Hey New Yorkers! - Sorry, forgot the ... N*JC tag. My apologies. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:58:15 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC & PC) Planning to vote for Nader? Too funny (and very timely): http://www.repentantnadervoter.com/ Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:49:15 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's voice **I'd love to hear about others' favorite vocal moments on her albums as well. Hi Wes, as others have said there are certainly an endless supply of Joni's golden vocal moments. In my mind her finest hour is "Sweet Sucker Dance" from Mingus. She effortlessly makes some tricky jazz intervals with very little melodic guidance, just pure brilliance. Barring that one track, I'd nominate C&S as her best vocal work for an entire album. It's so awesome that she makes it seem effortless, and anybody who's tried to sing "Help Me" (which is a lot of us I would imagine) would confirm that that is not the case. Bob NP: The Doors, "Who Do You Love?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:53:31 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni on Television Trio Network (on DirecTV) also shows PWWAM from time to time. As Jerry says, this one is not to be missed. Jerry Notaro wrote: > You can Buy the DVD. It ultimately was broadcast on Pay Per View and then > other formats as Painting With Words and Music. A must for every Joni fan. > > Jerry > > > Hey all - just read this article about a gig Joni wanted on television. > > The set list looks completely brilliant and would love to have a copy of > > this somehow. Does anyone know how to get a recording or any info about > > this great looking gig. > > > > "Joni Mitchell Tries To Bring Concert To Television" - MTV Website > > > (News Item) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:01:17 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni's voice KindTaper@aol.com wrote: > I'd love to hear about others' favorite vocal moments on her > albums as well. I'm a sucker for FTR, too. Her singing and piano playing were really at a peak. "Down where the water skeeters gli i i i iide.." "Electricity" All of Blue, "DJRD", there are lovely harmonies twirling in the backgrounds of songs on "WTRF", little Joni faeries swooping and darting. The whole era, really. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:03:52 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: One more Guinness for all these superfluous compilations! SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Sweet 16, V2 was issued as a giveaway for Jonifest 2003, and contains the > following tracks: > > 13. Lorna Grant b Big Yellow Taxi Didn't Amy Grant do this? Related? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:30:59 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Joni's Voice <> Thanks for sharing, Wes! And I totally agree with you. I absolutely love Joni's octaves on FTR. Those passages you picked out are real gems! I find that "Lesson in Survival" and "Ludwig's Tune" are so beautiful and fun to sing acapella style. I love to sing these two when I'm in the shower or in my car (alone, obviously, lol). It's fun to sing up and down the octaves with all the key changes, etc.. and even more challenging when you don't have the piano chords to follow. It's like aerobics for the brain. :) But I really struggle with that "show 'em you won't *expire*" part. Joni is amazing! There are two other songs that I also like to sing this way to, (but not from FTR, tho'). They are "Court and Spark" and "The Same Situation." It seems as though these two songs are carryovers from FTR. And "The Last Time I Saw Richard" from Blue seems very FTR'ish to me! I love the way she sings "dark cafe days." The "ca" is accented loudly but the "fe" is quiet, and and she does the same wicked decrescendo thing with "days." It has a playful obnoxious/in your face kind of feel that I just adore! Gosh, maybe Joni should put out another compilations CD. Imagine "Lesson in Survival," "Barangril," "Banquet," "Ludwig's Tune," "Court and Spark," "The Same Situation," and "The Last Time I Saw Richard" all on one CD. Oh, and "Blue" too. Joni - put out a piano CD! Where *is* Barangrill, btw? Mia _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:47:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Joni's voice - --- Randy Remote wrote: > I'm a sucker for FTR, too. Her singing and piano playing were > really at a peak. "Down where the water skeeters gli i i i iide.." Made me smile as my mind painted a picture of a group of mosquitoes on tiny water skis!! Must be getting late! night all, Brian ===== After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:18:28 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni's voice Best album for me as well on all accounts. Altho Hejira is right behind it for me (and I can now play every song on Hejira except Blue Motel Room which I can play but am not happy with as yet. Best Paz > I don't want to start a war with this thought, but I just wanted to postulate > that Joni's voice sounds the most beautiful to me on the "For the Roses" > album. While it's a wonderful album and a recent favorite, I'm not talking > about > the music, the lyrics, or the songs as a whole. All I am commenting on are the > octaves in her voice. This whole album blows my mind, but I'm going to point > out what I mean in a few songs: > > Take "Banquet" for example, when she sings "logs and sails, and shell oil > pails". Or in Barangrill" during the last line "And you even forget to ask > (beautiful vocal lift there), Hey' Where's Barangrill?". One last example: in > "Lesson in Survival", when she sings "You need to believe in something > (octaves > trickle downward) once I could in our love", I just want to be a leaf floating > down from one of the trees in that forest she's in on the album cover. Just > wanted to share. I'd love to hear about others' favorite vocal moments on her > albums as well. > > Thanks, > Wes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:26:09 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni's voice Jamie Check out what Susan Cowsill did with the song on my Pazfest CD (www.cdbaby.com/pazfest ). She positively killed with with her performance. And I love all the versions I have heard of THAT song! Best Paz P.S. And JENNY don't get me started! > If we are talking TLTISR then I prefer the performance > in MOA as the band really kick it up a notch and give > that section a sense of desparation that is just > heartbreaking. I dunno, doing that on stage... brave > brave soul > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:27:27 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: INCHES! I meant INCHES!! (NJC) 25 FEET is what they predict for us if a bad one comes up the river just right (or wrong depending on your perspective) Paz > Smurphy, CONTROL YOURSELF!!! > > D'oh! I meant to say that sea level will rise on the order of over 30 > INCHES within our lifetimes, not feet. > > When I refuelled my brain over lunch today and then continued reading > "Boiling Point", I realized that I had made a BIG BADDIE. > > But nonetheless, our nearly seafaring friends sPaz in New Orleans and Uncle > John in the Netherlands can attest to the devasting effects of just 30 > inches (SMURPHY!! I TOLD YOU TO SETTLE DOWN!!). > > But back to the point, I really think that "Boiling Point" should be > required reading -- pick it up, read it, and spread the word! > > Word! > > Kay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:28:53 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: No Subject A blessing to hear from you and I hope everyone in your parts are doing well. What a horrible thing to happen! My thoughts and prayers are with you guys. AND we will miss you at the fest this year! Best Paz > hey > "the roof is ripped with hurricanes" > it's Wednesday > we're okay > house is fine > yard is ripped up > no power > no phone > cell phone sporadic > hot/humid > no screens > mosquitoes!!! > areas are devastated -- we were lucky > > borrowed this computer on the fly > must run > > we'll connect when things settle > > love > d&d ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #352 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)