From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #332 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 3 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 332 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: (NJC) Capitol Hill Blue [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: DC and NYC terror alerts (NJC and US PC) [dsk ] Re: (NJC) Upon further reflection [JRMCo1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:57:38 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Capitol Hill Blue Debra writes: << There was also talk about Dubya's alcoholic behavior, one example being the way he instantly blamed Clinton for what Bush himself did. >> What did W do that he blamed Clinton for? - --Smurf, wondering if W killed VInce Foster after all . . . "Eat, drink and remarry." - --David Sedaris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:01:48 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: DC and NYC terror alerts (NJC and US PC) Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > > Looks like it's all a big fake scare, according to the conservative Drudge > Report. Here's what Matty is saying right now on his site: > > << "Much of the information that led authorities to raise the terror alert at > several large financial institutions in the NY and D.C. areas was 3 or 4 > years old... NYT Tuesday Page One Splash To Claim: Intelligence and law > enforcement officials 'had not yet found concrete evidence that a terror plot or > preparatory surveillance operations were still under way'... WASH POST Page One: > Alerts Stemmed from Pre-9/11 Acts /// 'There is nothing right now that we're > hearing that is new,' said one senior law enforcement official who was briefed on > the alert. 'Why did we go to this level?... I still don't know that'... POST: > 'Most of the information was compiled prior to the Sept. 11 attacks and that > there are serious doubts about the age of other, undated files'... ">> Very interesting! And all the sources he cites are newspapers. It's back to reading for me! I'll have to go back to the office so I can get my reading done. Debra Shea, a withdrawing tv news, etc. junkie in NYC, still all talked out ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Orts Subject: Re: DC and NYC terror alerts (NJC and US PC) I'm reading this thread with some interest because one of the supposed targets in this alert is a financial institution in Newark, NJ. I'm flying into Newark on Friday. I'll be staying in Madison, but I'll be flying into Newark. And my mixed feelings about this trip finally gives me a hint of what Debra is talking about below. The horror of 9/11 touched me in similar ways that other horrific news stories touch me--which is to say it's something very sad, disturbing, awful that happened far away. I have a tendency to put myself in certain situations, sort of mental roleplaying, if you will, but even that doesn't quite bring it home like my trip to this next weekend. So I've been having my "I refuse to be afraid" and "if I don't go on this trip, the terrorists will have won" moments, and yet I'm wondering what I should put in order here in Houston before going to the airport on Friday morning. Crazy world. Anyway, if there are any Jonilistas in Madison, NJ, I'll be on the campus of Fairleigh Dickinson University for a little more than a week. I'm not really sure of my schedule yet, but I could probably squeeze in a few moments to chat with a Joni fan. E-mail me offlist and we'll try to work something out. - -Neil - --- dsk wrote: > I have some "I refuse to be afraid" times, and then > other times where > I'm making plans (such as how to avoid the Lexington > Avenue subway, > which has always seemed like a good target to me), > and working evenings > because it feels safer to be on the 46th floor of a > building in the > evening when fewer people are there (too low a body > count for the > terrorists to attack then), and having a "go" bag > prepared in case I > have to leave quickly. People talk about it a lot > here, the stress that > comes and goes, and it always comes down to make as > many preparations as > you can (and that's not really many), stay alert, > hope for the best, and > get on with life. ===== Neil Ellis Orts 713-838-1787 Houston, TX keep up with my creative endeavors--join my newsletter list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neonews ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:15:08 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: (NJC) Capitol Hill Blue Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > > What did W do that he blamed Clinton for? The example Dr. Frank gave is the way Dubya instantly mentions Clinton when he's asked about WMDs and how they aren't in Iraq. Well, Clinton thought Iraq had them! Dubya wanted nothing to do with Clinton until he could use him to make his own actions okay, so he wasn't responsible at all. > --Smurf, wondering if W killed VInce Foster after all . . . Nah, nothing nearly so dramatic, unless it helps him become president again. Debra Shea NP: David Letterman talking to Pamela Anderson. What does she do again? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:48:50 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Upon further reflection Just wanted to chime in on Buck, since I was in on the "shopping" thread melee and he and I seemed to be going toe to toe for a while there. I never had a problem with him on a personal level although, clearly, we differ wildly on most everything...which is sorta what makes a discussion list interesting for me, to a point. But I've seen Buck's ilk here before: the bully Rush Limbaugh listening right wingers who go looking for scores of liberals to harass, all at once, around elect-a-Bush time. The JMDL was probably listed as a liberal bastion and a prime online target to infiltrate on some Conservative website. Hey, it could happen! (joke! fyi). Buck actually sent me a very warm and touching email after leaving the List that more or less formally introduced himself. There was even a picture attached. My impression is that he's something of a jokester and that the venomous right wing stuff is some kind of harmless, albeit weird, phase he's going through. He reminds me of one of my more offbeat friends who's experimenting with satanism. Creepy as hell, but it doesn't separate her from my love or the love of God. And as long as she doesn't start fucking with my head for sport, doesn't insult my intelligence and I don't catch her trying to collect samples of my hair, we'll remain tight. Buck never asked for a lock of my hair. One less thing to worry about, if you're me. (need I say it? Kidding, k?) He said he "liked my style," which was a pretty lie. I know because I've been assured repeatedly by my closest friends that I sorely lack same. I'm highly susceptible to flattery though, so I got over our petty differences long enough to read all about how cool *I* am. It's remarkable. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship... :-) I kinda wish Buck had said more about himself to the List at large, before jumping into the breach like that, guns blazing, literally. At any rate, I didn't sense from his email that he had left the JMDL in anger at all. It was more of an I'm moving on down the road and the JMDL was a stop along the way...adieu, kinda thing. To which I can relate. He didn't go away mad, he just went away. - -Julius ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #332 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)