From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #308 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, July 16 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 308 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- (NJC & PC) Let's Make This Happen! [lfye@cresapartners.com] Perpetual Joni Covers Train VOls 41-50 - any offer NJC ["robin mortlock" ] RE: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart in yet another decade ["Maggie McNally"] where does the wind come from? njc [] Re: where does the wind come from? njc [lfye@cresapartners.com] RE: New listening - NJC [Gertus@aol.com] The return of file-sharing 2 (njc) ["Les Irvin" ] (NJC) We are not all jerks [lfye@cresapartners.com] (NJC & PC) How We Got Into This Imperial Pickle [lfye@cresapartners.com] Songs that mention Joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The return of file-sharing 2 (njc) [Ken ] Re: Songs that mention Joni [frasere@intergate.ca] RE: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: civil rights NJC [Neil Orts ] joni,crosby,nash ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:49:04 -0400 From: lfye@cresapartners.com Subject: (NJC & PC) Let's Make This Happen! One sunny day in 2005 an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Ave, where he'd been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the US Marine standing guard and said, "I would like to go in and meet with President Bush." The Marine looked at the man and said, "Sir, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here." The old man said, "Okay" and walked away. The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet with President Bush." The Marine again told the man, "Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here." The man thanked him and, again, just walked away. The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same US Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet with President Bush." The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, "Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Bush. I've told you already that Mr. Bush is no longer the president and no longer resides here. Don't you understand?" The old man looked at the Marine and said, "Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it." The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, "See you tomorrow, Sir." MAKE IT HAPPEN - VOTE (and get others to vote, too!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:05:13 +0000 From: "robin mortlock" Subject: Perpetual Joni Covers Train VOls 41-50 - any offer NJC Hi all - I have VOLUMES 41-50 of the Joni Covers Train ready and waiting to be posted to the next recipient......read the following and get mail me with address/name and i will send them on - thanks robin >In order to enable latecomers to the list or >new traders have a chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible >compilation of covers of Joni's songs - some 1500 in all - this begins the >launch of the Perpetual Joni Covers Trains. For those not familiar with >trading trains, here is how they work. When the disks come to you, you >make >copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to >this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not >keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most >trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters >along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them >around >within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect >that >to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang >on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to >respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if >everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting >them >get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the >tracks for years. Bob copied 50+ disks for me to launch this and I have >copied them so there is a LOT of time sunk into offering these up. Nobody >is going to monitor the progress of these trains so if you participate and >then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you will have kept others from >enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include these "rules". One >final note, I know a few folks like to compress these into MP3s. If you >want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next person - MP3s >permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so please >pass the masters along. > >So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 41-50, please send me: >1. Your mailing address and >2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. > >If you want to know what is on the disks, please see this link: > >http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm > > > >. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:32:28 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart in yet another decade Ah, Bob, I knew I could count on you to show me the way. I bought only Joni and jazz in the 90s, with the exception of Me'Shell on YOUR say-so at the end of some year (wasn't sorry). I do remember Nevermind and the impact it had on the music world. I recall reading the end-of-year best-of lists printed in the Globe and elsewhere and wondered who it was who so unanimously won top spot. Sad to say for me, most of the others are unknown to me, (either the artists or the work released in that decade), but as we tell those who say they are just discovering Joni, it promises some exciting musical discovery experiences. As for your explanation, it rings true for me and helps me to understand how my lapse could come about....that and a shift to home-ownership that meant much of my disposable income was swallowed up by new desires. Thanks, dude! Maggie - -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:25 PM To: Maggie McNally; emzdogz@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart in yet another decade **but Bob, help me remember good stuff from the 90s. I think that's when I stopped listening. I'm counting on you to get me back on track. Maggie Who is soooo disappointed that Mueller is not coming to fest this year. ** Thanks Maggie, that's sweet of you to say - not a surprise as you're such a sweetie anyway (when you're not being a Naggie that is). The problem with the 90's was not the music, but rather the transporation. In the 70's we had free-form FM radio that exposed us to lots of new stuff, not just the hits but the other tracks as well. In the 80's MTV filled that gap. In the 90's, well, MTV died out and radio became totally homogeneous so the "good stuff" didn't have a chance to get heard - not in any kind of big way, anyway. Plus all the media seemed to be more segregated...you didn't get any real variety from any one source it seemed. As for the music, there were lots of significant happenings. Nirvana's "Nevermind" changed the course of popular music damn near overnight, and while they spawned some cheap imitators, many other great records followed in their path like Pearl Jam's "Ten" and Soundgarden's "Superunknown" among others, including their own spinoff Foo Fighters. The alt-rock movement took off and we got great records from Son Volt, Wilco, Whiskeytown, and a host of others. The singer-songwriter movement made a big comeback with excellent releases from Beth Orton, Tori Amos, Lucinda Williams, Bruce's "Ghost Of Tom Joad" and what may be the finest record of the decade, Jeff Buckley's "Grace". Even "Classic Rock" was back on the map with bands like Counting Crows ("August & Everything After" is probably the strongest debut of the last 25 years), and the indie rock scene thrived as well with bands like Ben Folds Five and Radiohead. And that's not even mentioning the guys and gals and combos thereof that were still cranking it out...Joni had a STUPENDOUS decade and finally began earning the recognition denied her for so long. REM, Tom Waits, Rickie Lee, Elvis Costello were still going strong. Soul music had a nice comeback as well with Me'Shell, P.M. Dawn, and I'm sure tons more that I never got to hear. :~( The problem was not the music (it never is). The problem of the 90's was in the marketing in my opinion. The good news is that it's not too late to dig in and discover the tunes! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:04:28 -0400 From: Subject: where does the wind come from? njc >Where does the wind come from?> > >Robin> The Wind has always been. On the other hand, I am a newcomer, a transient. I am a single molecule in the great, never ending breeze. We all began in the breeze and, in time, will return to it again and again. We do not belong in Life; we only blow through it. Lama, The world's most opinionated man ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:30:48 -0400 From: lfye@cresapartners.com Subject: Re: where does the wind come from? njc Opinionated Lama wrote: > The Wind has always been. On the other hand, I am a newcomer, a transient. I am a single molecule > in the great, never ending breeze. We all began in the breeze and, in time, will return to it again and > again. We do not belong in Life; we only blow through it. Call me the breeze I keep blowin' down the road Well now, they call me the breeze I keep blowin' down the road I ain't got me nobody I don't carry me no load Ain't no change in the weather Ain't no changes in me Well, there ain't no change in the weather Ain't no changes in me And I ain't hidin' from nobody Nobody's hidin' from me - -- J.J. Cale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:41:45 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: RE: New listening - NJC In a message dated 15/07/2004 08:16:31 GMT Standard Time, Azeem writes: > Firstly, has anyone heard Hope Sandoval's album, Bavarian Fruit Bread? > It is EXQUISITE. She was (is?) the singer in Mazzy Star, and has a > unique, lazy, drawling voice, sounding as if she's smacked out of her > head (though I don't suggest for a second that she IS). The songs are > lovely, the arrangements beautiful, the pacing languid. > Hi Azeem, I haven't heard the album but I gather my old friend Bert Jansch plays on it. I know this because Hope co-wrote and sings on a track called All This Remains on Bert's album "Edge of a Dream", a very sleepy, relaxing track. I'll have to give Bavarian Fruit Bread a listen. Best wishes, Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:15:02 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: The return of file-sharing 2 (njc) Joniphiles - Boy oh boy are we having a good time over at the file-sharing hub. We're laughing and toasting to nothing and smashing our empty glasses down! You should join us. Requirements for membership: 1) Interest in hearing and sharing live, unreleased concerts and other music. 2) Have broadband access to the internet. 3) Know how to download and install software. 4) Know how to burn CDs. Send a blank email to p2pinfo@jmdl.com for more information. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:35:55 -0400 From: lfye@cresapartners.com Subject: (NJC) We are not all jerks See t-shirt about 2/5 of the way down this page: http://www.dieselsweeties.com/shirts/ Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:01:39 -0400 From: lfye@cresapartners.com Subject: (NJC & PC) How We Got Into This Imperial Pickle Don't know if it's been around before, I was surfing the 'net and happened upon this very interesting "PNAC primer" and thought I'd share: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3544.htm Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:11:04 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Songs that mention Joni Monica Starck has a new CD out called "Desert Flower" which has a track titled "Joni Mitchell Record". You can check it out and hear a sample at: http://www.animero.com/bolero/monicastarck/english/popup.html Of course, I suppose there's always a chance that it's a DIFFERENT Joni Mitchell... In other songs that mention Joni, a 2003 release from French Electronic artist Yvinec - de Chassy titled "Ghost of a Song" that has a track humorously titled "Quitting music for painting (to Joni Mitchell) " That one's definitely about our Joni! Bob NP: Aces & Eights, "Raised On Robbery" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:34:14 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Re: The return of file-sharing 2 (njc) This is just awesome. Napster is dead. Long live Dc++! Les Irvin wrote: >Joniphiles - >Boy oh boy are we having a good time over at the file-sharing hub. We're >laughing and toasting to nothing and smashing our empty glasses down! You >should join us. > >Requirements for membership: >1) Interest in hearing and sharing live, unreleased concerts and other >music. >2) Have broadband access to the internet. >3) Know how to download and install software. >4) Know how to burn CDs. > >Send a blank email to p2pinfo@jmdl.com for more information. > >Thanks, >Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:45:01 -0700 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Re: Songs that mention Joni Well, here's a GREAT one from our own Fred Simon: Simon and Bard- Musaic- from 1980 "Song for Joni Mitchell" I have posted about this LP once- it is still fabulous- the song for Joni SO captures her LA Express period... Playing on the album are Paul Wertico on drums, Steve Rodby (Pat Metheny) on bass, and Larry Coryell on guitars- not a shabby lineup! I still listen to it Fred, and in fact will go and spin it next! Best, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Amy Winehouse- Frank anyone else heard this? I'm loving it and it's hard to believe she is white! Quoting SCJoniGuy@aol.com: > Monica Starck has a new CD out called "Desert Flower" which has a track > titled "Joni Mitchell Record". > > You can check it out and hear a sample at: > > http://www.animero.com/bolero/monicastarck/english/popup.html > > Of course, I suppose there's always a chance that it's a DIFFERENT Joni > Mitchell... > > In other songs that mention Joni, a 2003 release from French Electronic > artist Yvinec - de Chassy titled "Ghost of a Song" that has a track > humorously > titled "Quitting music for painting (to Joni Mitchell) " ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:44:49 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: RE: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart <> Yes! The Pretenders and U2. Had all their 80's albums. Here some other 80's faves (that I can think of at the moment): REM, Guns'n'Roses, Tesla, all Neil's 80's albums, Violent Femmes, Edie Brickell and the new Bohemians, Sinead O'Connor, Depeche Mode, B52's, RLJ, Devo, and last but not least....The Best of the Missing Persons (only "best of" album that I actually like). Mia _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:21:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Orts Subject: Re: civil rights NJC - --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > Quoting a moveon e-mail message, Kate writes: > > << President Bush failed to pass his Constitutional > amendment denying > marriage equality to same- sex couples. >> > > > What an embarrassment that idiot is. Enough said. And said with such restraint and understatement! Well done! > and I am still single. I feel your pain. Which you may also read as understatement. What is > the big anti-gay marriage > deal all about, except to create divisiveness? The thing I've been pointing out to people is that all this ammendment would do is create a movement to have it repealed. And aren't there bigger problems in this world (or hell, just in this country) to deal with than passing and repealing stupid ammendments? But if you can't get a handle on th economy, go after the queers, I guess . . . - -Neil happy queer ===== Neil Ellis Orts 713-838-1787 Houston, TX keep up with my creative endeavors--join my newsletter list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neonews ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:23:19 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: joni,crosby,nash Thanks for posting this wonderful piece of writing! Who is the author? >This was posted on the leeshore. Kinda long, but good.... > From a "rock writer.... > > I could go door to door selling "Ladies Of The Canyon". ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #308 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)