From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #306 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, July 14 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 306 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Hustler White [Jerry Notaro ] Re: njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart [Em ] Re: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart [Em ] RE: Jonifest music (was book mention) ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: njc Birthday White Sox Wishes! ["Donna Binkley" ] RE: Re strange mail from JMDL ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni book mention ["Kate Bennett" ] (NJC) Lost "Canadian Woodstock" footage to premiere tonight ["Kate Bennet] njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Laura Nyro 'Spread Your Wings and Fly' njc ["amelio747" Subject: Hustler White Saw the Worst film ever made last night called Hustler White. In one scene, the hustler is picked up by a biker guy. Afterwards, the biker guy says, It sure ain9t like the old day, acid booze, and grass, needles, guns, and ass. Sorry to see Joni quoted in such an awful movie. Of course, it goes uncredited. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:36:35 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . In a message dated 7/12/2004 10:32:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, Smurfycopy@aol.com writes: Colin? Ashara? HELLO? Kate? Hell? Jimmy? WHERE IS EVERYONE (Echo: Where Is Everyone . . . where is everyone . . . everyone . . .) Oh, I'm still here, you silly Blue thang!! Having one of the most wonderful summers I've ever had....... :-D To all of you: Cap off a great summer with THE event of the year!! Yes, YOU!!!!! If you are not signed up for Jonifest 2004, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR??????? Hugs, Ashara, in love again, and feeling a lot like our Joan, the serial monogamist ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:00:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Plus I forgot that so > many here > gave up on music a long time ago and stick to their 70's stuff. hey I tried..I really did. The best thing about the 80's for me, was the advent of the new not-major label "Americana" type of music. Guys like Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett and Robert Earl Keen. I guess there was a roots rock backlash in the 80's that kind of saved the day, for me. Cuz the pop music of the '80's did largely suck, imho. I'm pretty unapologetic about that. It was just so much about style rather than content. But those lyrics you put out there Bob of TMBG were pretty decent. I missed that. A friend of mine who is an 80's FREAK has forced me to listen to Nick Cave and thats proved to be really good too. Also Crash Test Dummies "Superman", that was good. I liked Fine Young Cannibals. ::shrug:: I dunno I still think that decade was not that great. Lots sucked in the 70's too tho. I think I shoulda known things were gonna get worse the first time I heard that BOO BOO BOO BOO BOO (echoey, boomy, FAKE) drum in Linda Ronstadt's "Poor Poor Pitiful Me". Fakeness and overproduction on the horizon and at every turn. pop songs I *did* manage to like from the 80's: Run Runaway...Slade 867-5309/Jenny ...Tommy Tutone all Culture Club stuff strangely, "Shy Shy" by (I think) Kajagoogoo (....I mean what does that say about that decade, when Kajagoogoo makes my top handful of pop songs lol) I maintain that the 80's "bit". But I honestly "tried". Went to a Flock of Seagulls concert....boring boring boring. That whole "hair band " thing, left me so cold. On the other hand, the ska stuff was pretty cool. Oh, and I think I actually saw...hmmm...whats the name of that band Lama likes so much.... anyway, ah! Cowboy Junkies...saw them I *think* in the very late 80's. had to be. That was good. They were a breath of fresh air, for sure. Thank god for community radio and the folk and acoustic and roots rock stuff. Just my admittedly tarnished .02. Em ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart oh one 80's band I adored - they just didn't last long enough - Big Country. I listened to their first album ALL the time. Em ps: see, I tried Bob, I really REALLY did ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:13:54 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: RE: Jonifest music (was book mention) Hi Victor, Vampire #1 here. I have a cd prepared for you if you would join Jenny and I on a song this year during my set. May I send it to you? db >>> "Victor Johnson" 7/13/2004 2:58:16 AM >>> and that drugs, free love and Joni Mitchell music > made him what he is! and a lot of the communes at that time had vampires in > them! > > is this true? I don't know but there are lots of vampires at jonifest. They come out at night and congregate in the pool room. Victor NP: Rush "Crossroads" Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:44:41 -0500 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Holy Grail found! NJC Looks like some Australian bargain hunter just bought Mal Evans lost suitcase for 36 bucks. Holy shit! All you BIG beatles fans - Can and will Paul stop this stuff from seeing the light of day? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040713/ap_en_ot/britain_beatles_suitcase_2 cindy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:55:45 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: njc Birthday White Sox Wishes! Happy Birthday to Vince and to Scott (aka that guy)!!! love db >>> "Scott and Jody" 7/13/2004 12:32:45 AM >>> Yes, Vince and Bob, I'm still trying to catch my breath as he just left again for Oregon..... ENOUGH about my woes... HAPPY BIRTHDAY VINCE - July 9th.!!!!! Since the BDF, deputy and gnome have been napping, I'm the last to cover their bums. Scott and I want to wish you A White Sox Birthday Dream Come True....What does that mean? You'll see! HAPPY BIRTHDAY VINCE!! love, jody and scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "vince" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: Re: njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . > Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > > Is Jody finally spending time with That Guy? > > > His name is Scott and he had a birthday last week and they are celebrating! This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:25:57 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: New listening - NJC Just started listening to a band I've heard of but never listened to. Keane. They have an album Hopes and Fears. I'm a couple of songs into it and really loving it. Think Coldplay and Travis done properly. Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 08:57:43 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Re strange mail from JMDL >some people, especially I think some nerdy teenage boys, are very attracted to mayhem. So they create mayhem on the internet instead of shooting up their school. Em< So true, & I know many adults still attracted to mayhem... it just gets subtler with age... it must be a personality trait... somehow needing excitement or empowerment of some sort ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:03:26 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Joni book mention >It always strikes me as kind of odd when Joni is linked with the 60's, since she was not very widely known then.< I think when a lot of people make references to the sixties they are actually including the early seventies as well... & imo the early sixties were more like the fifties... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:15:18 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: (NJC) Lost "Canadian Woodstock" footage to premiere tonight They showed previews of this film a week or so ago... sounds so interesting & also sad (with all the indulgences caught on film which brought down far too many of the talents who are no longer with us) >"Festival Express," http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/07/12/DDGHK7JAR91.DTL < ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:21:38 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . >Colin? Ashara? HELLO? Kate? Hell? Jimmy? WHERE IS EVERYONE (Echo: Where Is Everyone . . . where is everyone . . . everyone . . .)< Smurph I'm here! (here here here) but a day late (I'm a digester) & a dollar short... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: (NJC) Lost "Canadian Woodstock" footage to premiere tonight So what's you all's take on this? Is this likely to show in theatres nationally? If anyone hears any more info on when it might come around in theatres or come out on video or DVD, if you'd holler about it - I'd appreciate it. I would lurv lurv lurrrrrrrrvvv to see this thing. I remember reading about this eons ago. Em - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > They showed previews of this film a week or so ago... sounds so > interesting > & also sad (with all the indulgences caught on film which brought > down far > too many of the talents who are no longer with us) > > >"Festival Express," > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/07/12/DDGHK7JAR91.DTL > < > ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:41:52 +0100 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . THAT SMURPH PERSON WROTE...AND YES I AM SHOUTING>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:10:36 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: njc -- here I sit, broken hearted . . . Thought there'd be a funny post or two from Catherine, but nooooooooo. No gross, sexual in-you-end-o from Paz. Not even a stinging barb from Muller. And where's Wally, Off giving people analyst jive? Is Jody finally spending time with That Guy? Colin? Ashara? HELLO? Kate? Hell? Jimmy? WHERE IS EVERYONE (Echo: Where Is Everyone . . . where is everyone . . . everyone . . .) This is beginning to remind me of that Twilight Zone episode about the Internet discussion list that no one posted to. - - --Smurf QUEEN LULU NOW YOU DID NOT MENTION ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME. HAH! YOU ARE SOOOO DEAD...SO UTTERLY DEAD... OH DEADER THAN THE DEADEST THING YOU WEAR ON YOUR HEAD PRETENDING YOU HAVE HAIR.... And to think I gave you all the advice about "handy hands" and even wrote a paragraph about you and your rejection of the church...... Huh!!! I am in high dudgeon (population 3 and a dog) QUEEN LULU, SWISHING OFF IN A HISSY FIT...... I EXPECT A FULL AND GROVELLING APOLOGY....... Queen lulu in England of course! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:55:07 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: (NJC) Lost "Canadian Woodstock" footage to premiere tonight The previews were at a showing of F9/11 so I imagine it is planned for a (somewhat) national distribution... >So what's you all's take on this? Is this likely to show in theatres nationally? If anyone hears any more info on when it might come around in theatres or come out on video or DVD, if you'd holler about it - I'd appreciate it. I would lurv lurv lurrrrrrrrvvv to see this thing. I remember reading about this eons ago. Em< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:45:43 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Holy Grail found! NJC I read that news story today as well, Cindy - what a find to be sure. They said just the photos and memorabilia were worth a fortune, never mind the music! Of course, there's already SO MUCH Beatles out there already, I wonder if it's not just a batch of alternate mixes of stuff we've heard already. Bob NP: The Cure, "I Don't Know What's Going On" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:34:22 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: njc -- breaking Smurf's heart **hey I tried..I really did. Don't get me wrong, Em...I wasn't praising the slump that was the 80's. Though there were some great bands and records of course - X, XTC, REM, U2 (I guess the best bands were just letters & numbers...oops, just remembered UB40, never mind) The Replacements owned the 80's as far as I was concerned. It was an awkward decade - with the advent of MTV, the music took a backseat to the visual. Some artists could do both; Springsteen, Michael Jackson, but it was mostly one-hit wonders like a-ha, and your faves Flock of Seagulls and Kajagoogoo. And don't forget all the hair bands like Night Ranger, Poison, Cinderella, Ratt...(I feel like I'm rifling thru Evian's record collection here!) Oh, and since I'm spinning their new one, I should mention The Cure, who put out one of the ten best discs of the 80's (Disintegration). Most of my favorites fared all right in the 80's; the aforementioned Bruce, Tom Waits (Swordfishtrombones & Rain Dogs are both classics in my book), Elvis C, then you have Joni who was 1 for 3. She should have pulled a Steely Dan and just pulled the covers up over her head for the decade, or at least after gifting us with WTRF. The MTV age was not a good fit for her. But anyway, that was TWO decades ago...that's not really what I meant about the 'lost in the 70's' children anyway. And hey, speaking of Big Country (who DID have a rockin' debut, amen to that) they also did not one but TWO Joni covers! BYT & Woodstock, both really decent too. Bob NP: The Cure, "Us Or Them" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:33:00 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: yaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! njc i have just passed my last exam for the semester. school is out until the 26th so i can come out of this horrid utter seclusion for a few days and JUST HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!! like sleep and read mystery novels and forget about introjected good and bad breasts and the sadistic aspect of the super ego. my training analysis is just fine but as i think i'll specialize in melanie klein's school i'll change analysts. besides, local kleinians are cheaper than lacanians. note: bob murphy, i love you and i miss you! wally, in the schizo-paranoid position until i have taken a good nap. (and i have to tell you all about the joni dream i had last night, including part of the lyrics of the new joni song i heard in the dream.) (yes, i think i need a good nap.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:56:44 EDT From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: Last Joni album on vinyl? Just wondering if anyone knows if "Night Ride Home", "Turbulent Indigo" or anything later was pressed on vinyl. I imagine if they were, they were UK or European releases only. "Night Ride Home" would be fair game for a US pressing, as it came out in 1991. I imagine Joni would be the type to think vinyl was an outdated, inferior format by that point, but I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. If any has seen for sure, or owns any of the 90's albums by Joni on vinyl, I'd love to hear from you or you can post to the list. Thanks, Wes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:01:06 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Holy Grail found! NJC Wow!!! Assuming this is real, will Paul try to get ahold of it? Undoubtedly. Will he succeed? Most likely, since he can claim ownership, legally. Will he stop it from being available? Probably not, because a) he has a history of releasing obscure stuff, and even if he doesn't, b) it's probably being bootlegged right now. Randy Raccoon Cynthia Vickery wrote: > Looks like some Australian bargain hunter just bought Mal Evans > lost suitcase for 36 bucks. Holy shit! > > All you BIG beatles fans - > Can and will Paul stop this stuff from seeing the light of day? > > http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040713/ap_en_ot/britain_beatles_suitcase_2 > > cindy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:04:24 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: Laura Nyro 'Spread Your Wings and Fly' njc This CD is really nice. Laura at her peak! I'm so glad 'Timer' is on it, I love that song so much. In anther lifetime maybe I'll get to see her play live. Oh yeah and don't you love that piano build up thing she does on 'Map To The Treasure'? NP: You Don't Love Me When I Cry - Laura * * * * * * Stephen - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark or Travis" To: "JMDL" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:29 AM Subject: Laura Nyro 'Spread Your Wings and Fly' njc > I heard this cd today for the first time. It's probably been mentioned already but all of you Nyro > fans out there, run, don't walk, to your nearest record store and buy this cd if you don't have it > yet. Recorded at the Fillmore East in Mary of 1971, it is an amazing performance. Just Laura and > her piano. My favorite part is the three songs from 'Christmas and the Beads of Sweat' she does > about 2 thirds of the way through. Lovely rendition of 'Map to the Treasure'. And she really tears > me up with 'Christmas In My Soul'. Except for the references to the Black Panthers and the Chicago > Seven, this song could so easily have been written about the US today. And then she follows it up > with 'Save The Country'! Oh my, oh my! I was driving home from work when I was listening to this > and I rolled the windows down, cranked it and was shouting it out to anybody who could hear: > > Save the people! > Save the children! > Save the country, save the country! > > I wish everyone in the whole flipping country could hear the performances of these two songs and > really, really pull together and do what Laura is calling us to do. > > Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:44:01 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: DVD cover: "Refuge Of the Roads" Great pic-I've never seen it before. It's different than the original cover for the VHS ROTR. I would buy it just for the cover. (It says the dvd is due to come out Aug 24) jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > The cover of the DVD is now on Chris Marshall's hatstand.org: > > http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/album26/joni_refuge_icon > > It's a shot I think I've seen before but this time it's not cropped as tightly. > > I scooped JJ, Les, and Rose! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:01:55 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: DVD cover: "Refuge Of the Roads" Right. No bonus tracks but it'll probably the best sound yet for that particular (exceptional) version of "For Free", for example. I have already sold off my factory made VHS tape which had a level imbalance. All the best, Lama Randy Remote wrote: >(It says the dvd is due to come out Aug 24) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 02:08:44 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Recurring thread #17b: Springsteen & photos, njc On page 12 of Petersen's Photographic Magazine's Aug '04 issue, they announce a multimedia show on Springsteen's recurring images of cars & highways, "Springsteen - Troubadour of the Highway". More than 70 photos & other forms are on view through Aug 29 at The Newark Museum. (973) 596-6550. On vacation and loving it, Lama PS, Although not as much as I would be enjoying it if it was late August and I was having breakfast in a Catskills resort... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #306 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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