From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #299 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, July 7 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 299 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Sorry I forgot the NJC tag. [Catherine McKay ] Question - njc [Jerry Notaro ] It's Edwards! njc [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: It's Edwards! njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] ...America again [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: mri njc [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: It's Edwards! njc [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: It's Edwards! njc ["anon anon" ] Joni tribute at Winnipeg Folk Festival ["Les Irvin" ] Re: fact on film? njc ["Kate Bennett" ] roger dodger njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: roger dodger njc [Em ] RE: roger dodger njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] documentaries NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: mri njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] checking in with you all NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] Re: roger dodger njc [Dflahm@aol.com] RE: Songs that mention 4th of July NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] RE: Songs that mention 4th of July NJC [Catherine McKay ] JOni Interview 2 ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: ...America again [Catherine McKay ] The return of file-sharing (njc) ["Les Irvin" ] Re: The return of file-sharing (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: checking in with you all NJC [Michael Paz ] RE: The return of file-sharing (njc) ["Les Irvin" ] Re: The return of file-sharing (njc) [Michael Paz ] Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Backlash to Micheal Moore, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Sorry I forgot the NJC tag. - --- MINGSDANCE@aol.com wrote: > I'm sorry I forgot the NJC tag on my last post, but > maybe TBOS fits in here > any way? > > Peace > Mingus > You realize, if you include the NJC initials in your header, the people on the joni-only list won't get it and will (possibly) flame you anyway? LOL. Get out your flame-repellant! By the way, I understand Buck has uns*bbed. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:02:52 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Question - njc Is a cd reference test pressing of a title that is ultimately released worth purchasing for its rarity? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:05:56 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: It's Edwards! njc CBS News just reported that presumptive Democratic party presidential nominee John Kerry's vice-presidential running mate will be Senator John Edwards of North Carolina. I like it! I like it alot! He appears to be a very good man and he's a good orator to boot. He's also highly respected in the African-American community. He's sure to energize the Kerry campaign. Now, let's get this party started. Bush moving vans, start your engines! - -Julius p.s. - In an unrelated news story, there's a new twist in the infamous "the dingo ate my baby!" story out of Australia. I'm sure you'll want to check it out, Bob Muller. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:09:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: It's Edwards! njc In a message dated 7/6/2004 8:16:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JRMCo1@aol.com writes: I'm sure you'll want to check it out, Bob Muller. :-) Shhhh, make no mention of that Julius - I'm enjoying all of Hell's posts and don't want her to retreat. Besides, after seeing the WONDERFUL 'Whale Rider', my favorite NZ saying is: "Stope the Cah!" I also just read about Edwards, and I agree it's good news. Kerry is such a wet blanket and comes off as so namby-pamby it's nice to get a little energy and charisma onboard. Bob NP: The Washing machine at the beach - time to hit the sun! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:38:52 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: ...America again In his speech from Pennsylvania announcing Sen. John Edwards as his running mate, President Kerry quoted poet Langston Hughes, saying "Let America Be America Again." I thought some of you might be interested in reading the entire poem he was quoting from, so I've pasted it below. See if you can find the Joni TBOS synchro below. (Did I say "President Kerry?" just getting used to it, I guess. Rolls off the tongue pretty nicely, I think.) - -Julius > Let America be America again. > Let it be the dream it used to be. > Let it be the pioneer on the plain > Seeking a home where he himself is free. > > (America never was America to me.) > > Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed-- > Let it be that great strong land of love > Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme > That any man be crushed by one above. > > (It never was America to me.) > > O, let my land be a land where Liberty > Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath, > But opportunity is real, and life is free, > Equality is in the air we breathe. > > (There's never been equality for me, > Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.") > > Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark? > And who are you that draws your veil across the stars? > > I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart, > I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars. > I am the red man driven from the land, > I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek-- > And finding only the same old stupid plan > Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak. > > I am the young man, full of strength and hope, > Tangled in that ancient endless chain > Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land! > Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need! > Of work the men! Of take the pay! > Of owning everything for one's own greed! > > I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil. > I am the worker sold to the machine. > I am the Negro, servant to you all. > I am the people, humble, hungry, mean-- > Hungry yet today despite the dream. > Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers! > I am the man who never got ahead, > The poorest worker bartered through the years. > > Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream > In the Old World while still a serf of kings, > Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true, > That even yet its mighty daring sings > In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned > That's made America the land it has become. > O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas > In search of what I meant to be my home-- > For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore, > And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea, > And torn from Black Africa's strand I came > To build a "homeland of the free." > > The free? > > Who said the free? Not me? > Surely not me? The millions on relief today? > The millions shot down when we strike? > The millions who have nothing for our pay? > For all the dreams we've dreamed > And all the songs we've sung > And all the hopes we've held > And all the flags we've hung, > The millions who have nothing for our pay-- > Except the dream that's almost dead today. > > O, let America be America again-- > The land that never has been yet-- > And yet must be--the land where every man is free. > The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME-- > Who made America, > Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain, > Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain, > Must bring back our mighty dream again. > > Sure, call me any ugly name you choose-- > The steel of freedom does not stain. > From those who live like leeches on the people's lives, > We must take back our land again, > America! > > O, yes, > I say it plain, > America never was America to me, > And yet I swear this oath-- > America will be! > > Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death, > The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies, > We, the people, must redeem > The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers. > The mountains and the endless plain-- > All, all the stretch of these great green states-- > And make America again! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:41:25 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: mri njc Colin, Don't beat yourself up about the MRI. I usually have no fear of anything. (Ferchristsakes, I've bungy jumped off a 13 story high platform!!) When I had to have an MRI several months ago, they kep asking me over and over if I had an claustraphobia. I kept laughing and saying, "No, not at all!" As soon as they slide me into that booth, I thought I was going to faint when I saw how close the ceiling part was and said, "You need to get me out, NOW!!!!!!!!" They took me out and put a washcloth over my eyes, and then I was fine, but I totally understand what you went through. Big hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:06:26 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: It's Edwards! njc Kerry is such a wet blanket and comes off as so namby-pamby it's nice to get a little energy and charisma onboard. Bob Well, I don't agree with that at all, Bob. Although it's true that the Republicans have spent alot of money trying to instill that impression in voters. I don't buy it. (What does "namby-pamby" mean anyway?) - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:51:08 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: It's Edwards! njc I agree with you Julius.From everything I've heard,it seems to be that while Kerry may be somewhat remote and patrician,he's also a pretty tough guy who doesn't back down from a fight... >From: JRMCo1@aol.com >Reply-To: JRMCo1@aol.com >To: SCJoniGuy@aol.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: It's Edwards! njc >Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:06:26 EDT > >Kerry is such a wet blanket and comes off as so namby-pamby it's nice to >get >a little energy and charisma onboard. > >Bob > >Well, I don't agree with that at all, Bob. Although it's true that the >Republicans have spent alot of money trying to instill that impression in >voters. I >don't buy it. (What does "namby-pamby" mean anyway?) > >-Julius _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:36:06 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Joni tribute at Winnipeg Folk Festival Joniphiles - The Winnipeg Folk Festival happens this weekend in Manitoba. http://www.winnipegfolkfestival.com/ On Sunday, July 11th from 11:00 am - 12:15 pm they will be featuring "Joni's Jukebox", songs from Ms Mitchell done by: Brandy Zdan & Dave Quanbury Greg MacPherson Dan Frechette The Wailin' Jennys Hopefully someone will be able attend and report! Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:41:21 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: fact on film? njc > why then does he call his film a "documentary" I don't know why it is called a documentary but I agree with you that it is not truly one... perhaps he or others call it a documentary because films, like music, must be put into a genre & this is the closest one? >The fact that many who see this film believe it all to be true> FACT? All true? This is quite a presumptuous statement unless you have interviewed everyone who has seen this film. Talk about propaganda! Unless you have actually seen this film you have no idea what you are talking about... you can't possibly know what is presented as true & what is presente as opinion or how people might just possibly have the intelligence to discern the two but are still blown away by the film because yes he is brilliant at what he does... >I grew up in an era (that probably now would be considered "quaint") where this type of propaganda was not considered a good thing and was actually taught in a variety of schools how to be cognitive of it. With that kind of education I would imagine that you can easily see how the current administration has been a blatant master of propaganda for quite some time now... >I do not need to see any of his films to know what he is about. Of course you do. Because there is so much in this film that is not 'about' Michael Moore which you wouldn't know unless you've seen it. To claim an opinion (based on other people's opinions) of a film or music or a book (or its creator) without actually having seen, hear, or read the creation is just so odd to me. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:58:44 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: roger dodger njc what does "roger dodger" mean? wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: roger dodger njc - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > what does "roger dodger" mean? > wally > as in "ol roger DRAFT dodger" slipping out the basement door?? S&G?? thats the only time I've heard it.. :) Em ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:28:20 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: roger dodger njc you know, there's this movie, roger dodger, and i was wondering if the title had any special meaning. i thought about the draft but maybe the expression had other meanings. thanks em!!! any other takes? wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] > Enviado el: Martes, 06 de Julio de 2004 04:20 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: roger dodger njc > > > --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > > what does "roger dodger" mean? > > wally > > > > > as in "ol roger DRAFT dodger" > slipping out the basement door?? S&G?? > thats the only time I've heard it.. > :) > Em > > ===== > ------- > "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." > Tee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:43:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: documentaries NJC Here is an article about the documentary genre & how it is changing: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/05/movies/05DOCU.html?ex=1089691200 &en=19d509e462d4eba3&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:30:21 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: mri njc yeah, the trick is, not to open your eyes and to imagine that you are someplace pleasant LOL!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:07:29 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: checking in with you all NJC I have been away since - forever? - the beginning of June, and so have been worse than ever in my negligence of this community that means so much to me. I just began to wade through some of the emails, but wanted to say try to check back in, and to specifically write about one of our recently departed. I know that you all wrote in the freshness of the moment, but I didn't want the time that has lapsed mean that silence was my final answer to what M.G. meant to me. While I was in Holland I learned of Mary Grace's passing. I knew that she was in great danger of leaving us, but I had the audacity to hope that she would find a way to prevail over the cancer that was compromising her body. I send us all my condolences, because she was a gift to us all here on the Joni Mitchell Discussion List. Many of us who had the pleasure of meeting her in person can attest to her personal warmth, fantastic smile, outrageous sense of humor, and inner and outer beauty. But you didn't need to meet her personally to get much of that, because she had the gift of being a good writer and of being able to transcend the limitations that emails seem to force on many of us...myself in particular. She gave great spirit to our on-line community, and I am grateful for that. I was so pleased to learn of her plans to marry, and am glad for her to have had that happiness in her final months. I grieve for her family and their loss. With love and affection, Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:28:57 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: roger dodger njc "Roger," of course, has a military tradition, meaning "I have received and I understand your message." I also remember it as a vulgar verb: a man who has had sex with a woman---casual, perhaps achieved in part through intimidation, more than a little exploitative---might brag in his conversation or memoirs that he "rogered" her. Literature majors, help me out here!!! The phrase "Roger Dodger" or "Roger, Dodger, old codger!" is an archaic interjection meaning "So be it!" "Count me in!" or "Right on!" DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:02:13 -0400 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Songs that mention 4th of July NJC Catherine! That song was on my mind off and on all day on Sunday...I managed to shake it and now it will be there until I can purge it once again. Get me some Joni, stat! Maggie - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 4:34 PM To: KJHSF@aol.com; Randy Remote Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Songs that mention 4th of July - --- KJHSF@aol.com wrote: > "today's the fourth of July. > another June has gone by. > And when they light up our town > I just think, 'what a waste of gunpowder and sky!" > > Aimee Mann, Fourth of July > LOL! Then there's the classic: I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy Yankee Doodle, do or die A real live nephew of my Uncle Sam, Born on the 4th of July. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:14:43 +1000 From: Melissa Subject: Joni mention in Sydney Morning Herald The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia) is running a series to celebrate 50 years of Rock. Today9s edition profiles the 1970s, and there are a couple of Joni references in the article. The full article can be viewed at There is also an Elvis Costello reference, which should please Bob! The printed article boldly goes on to nominate Blue as one of the five top albums of the decade, alongside Led Zeppelin's IV, Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express, Stevie Wonder Innervisions (or Songs of the Key of Life) and The Clash London Calling. You can also vote for your favourite song and album at . Alas, no Joni songs to vote for, but two Joni albums (Blue and C&S). NP: Talking Heads, Heaven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Songs that mention 4th of July NJC - --- Maggie McNally wrote: > Catherine! That song was on my mind off and on all > day on Sunday...I managed to shake it and now it > will be there until I can purge it once again. Get > me some Joni, stat! > > Maggie Jeez - don't you just HATE that? It truly is an annoying song. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:41:24 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Joni Interview Hey Joniphiles: I read a manuscript for columbia University Press recently, and in choosing books from thier catalogue for payment I came across a book by Alice Echols called Shaky Ground: The Sixties and its Aftershocks (2001). I have ordered it. But has anyone read the interview that constitutes chapter 15? It's called ``The Soul of a Martian'': A Conversation with Joni Mitchell." Echols has also published a pretty good bio of Janis Joplin. In any event, it's $18.50 in paperback and available here: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/catalog/data/023110/023110670X.HTM Yours, Richard Richard Flynn Professor Dept. of Literature and Philosophy Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460-8023 Home page: http://www.GeorgiaSouthern.edu/~rflynn "We go to college to be given one more chance to learn to read in case we haven't learned in High School. Once we have learned to read, the rest can be trusted to add itself unto us." --Robert Frost, "Poetry and School" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:48:24 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: JOni Interview 2 It may be that the interview is a version of what's in the JMDL library. When I get the book, I'll compare and let y'all know: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=165 Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: ...America again - --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > In his speech from Pennsylvania announcing Sen. John > Edwards as his running > mate, President Kerry quoted poet Langston Hughes, > saying "Let America Be > America Again." I thought some of you might be > interested in reading the entire > poem he was quoting from, so I've pasted it below. > > See if you can find the Joni TBOS synchro below. Reading that made me want to read more Langston Hughes. I had forgotten what a wonderful poet he is. He puts out so much power using simple vocabulary. So I did a google search and went to a site, and one of the first names in a bibliography list of his poetry is "The Weary Blues." ("These hectic joys, these weary blues" - Joni again!) http://www.poets.org/poems/poems.cfm?45442B7C000C07010E75 and you can hear him read one of his poems, "The Negro speaks of rivers" at http://www.poets.org/poems/poems.cfm?45442B7C000C07030C71 ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:11:07 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: The return of file-sharing (njc) Joniphiles - I'm reviving the JMDL "file-sharing club" once again (for the 3,956th time). Would anyone like to join? We trade great music, have stimulating chats, and much more... Requirements for membership: 1) Interest in collecting, hearing, and sharing live, unreleased music 2) Have broadband access to the internet 3) Know how to download and install software 4) Know how to burn CDs If you qualify, join us for a wide, wide world of wonderful music! Send a blank email to p2pinfo@jmdl.com for more information. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:00:12 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The return of file-sharing (njc) If you tell me this is limited to the pinheads that are PC owners only I will die. I bought into MAC cause it was THE music computer at the time and have enjoyed its wonderful features ever since. But lately I find that we are still few and Far between and I am bracing myself for another let down. Paz P.S. Call me when you have 10 minutes or so. We need to chat on other topics. > Joniphiles - > I'm reviving the JMDL "file-sharing club" once again (for the 3,956th time). > Would anyone like to join? We trade great music, have stimulating chats, > and much more... > > Requirements for membership: > 1) Interest in collecting, hearing, and sharing live, unreleased music > 2) Have broadband access to the internet > 3) Know how to download and install software > 4) Know how to burn CDs > > If you qualify, join us for a wide, wide world of wonderful music! Send a > blank email to p2pinfo@jmdl.com for more information. > > Thanks, > Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:02:04 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: It's Edwards! njc I think it's a great choice as well and I hope he can add the umph to the campaign cause frankly I have had enough and change is always good, but Kerry bu hisself tends to scare me on many levels. But when I think of it most stuff does scare me one way or the other. Love Paz > CBS News just reported that presumptive Democratic party presidential nominee > John Kerry's vice-presidential running mate will be Senator John Edwards of > North Carolina. > > I like it! I like it alot! He appears to be a very good man and he's a good > orator to boot. He's also highly respected in the African-American > community. He's sure to energize the Kerry campaign. > > Now, let's get this party started. Bush moving vans, start your engines! > > -Julius > > p.s. - In an unrelated news story, there's a new twist in the infamous "the > dingo ate my baby!" story out of Australia. I'm sure you'll want to check it > out, Bob Muller. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:05:19 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: checking in with you all NJC Audacity is one of my favorite words and I am full of it. I had it too. I salute you for it and wish that more audacity and optimism and positive vibes had more strength to save the ones we really love. I can't wait to hear Julius's tribute cd that he made in her memory and hope that the family is well and dealing with the pain and loss. Welcome home love. We missed you and look forward to seeing you soon. One tequila two tequila three tequi..... > I have been away since - forever? - the beginning of June, and so have been > worse than ever in my negligence of this community that means so much to me. > I just began to wade through some of the emails, but wanted to say try to > check back in, and to specifically write about one of our recently departed. > I know that you all wrote in the freshness of the moment, but I didn't want > the time that has lapsed mean that silence was my final answer to what M.G. > meant to me. > > While I was in Holland I learned of Mary Grace's passing. I knew that she was > in great danger of leaving us, but I had the audacity to hope that she would > find a way to prevail over the cancer that was compromising her body. I send > us all my condolences, because she was a gift to us all here on the Joni > Mitchell Discussion List. Many of us who had the pleasure of meeting her in > person can attest to her personal warmth, fantastic smile, outrageous sense of > humor, and inner and outer beauty. But you didn't need to meet her personally > to get much of that, because she had the gift of being a good writer and of > being able to transcend the limitations that emails seem to force on many of > us...myself in particular. She gave great spirit to our on-line community, > and I am grateful for that. I was so pleased to learn of her plans to marry, > and am glad for her to have had that happiness in her final months. I grieve > for her family and their loss. > > With love and affection, > Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:32:04 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: The return of file-sharing (njc) > If you tell me this is limited to the pinheads that are PC > owners only I will die. I bought into MAC cause it was THE > music computer at the time and have enjoyed its wonderful > features ever since. 100% Mac compatible... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:52:56 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The return of file-sharing (njc) YaYYYYYYYYY! Sign my ass up! Love Paz >> If you tell me this is limited to the pinheads that are PC >> owners only I will die. I bought into MAC cause it was THE >> music computer at the time and have enjoyed its wonderful >> features ever since. > > 100% Mac compatible... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:10:08 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Offer closed: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 41-50 of JM Covers Covers #41-#50 going to Robin in Ireland. Still looking for covers 1-10 Doug Thanks to Kenny B, I can offer this set to the first reply and promise to re-offer. I still have Covers 31-40 I'm looking for Covers 1-10 Doug Eric's original post: In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers of Joni's songs - some 1500 in all - this begins the launch of the Perpetual Joni Covers Trains. For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work. When the disks come to you, you make copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them around within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect that to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting them get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the tracks for years. Bob copied 50+ disks for me to launch this and I have copied them so there is a LOT of time sunk into offering these up. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you will have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to compress these into MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next person - MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so please pass the masters along. So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 41-50, please send me: 1. Your mailing address and 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. If you want to know what is on the disks, please see this link: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:57:02 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: State of the list Whoa! Messling, Irvin & "Kakki from Los Angeles" in one digest! Rock on. I thought the JMDL was dying. Lurking but not like Dulson, Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY The prehistoric rule is that the "State of the list" is JC, right? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:28:27 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 Uh-oh, ICE has called BS, "The first theme-oriented collection". If this was an episode of The West Wing, a month ago the press officer (C.J. Craig) would have said, "W-ah-lll!! If she's gonna do more of these, there's gonna be some resistance. I better soften up the ground, first. I'll float the idea in ICE." Lama, who's not looking forward to "The Beginning of Sunday Morning Sunny Songs" nor "The Beginning of Challenging Jazz Influenced Pop Songs" nor "The Beginning of Piano Flavored Pieces", and certianly not "The Death of Metaphor". But I wouldn't mine trying Taylor's Ham before I check out, or seeing a DVD of the first Carnegie Hall show. Someone posting from the "Music Is Special" account said, >(the) Current issue of ICE says on page 11: >The first theme-oriented collection by Joni Mitchell > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:34:33 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Audiophile's Corner It's been a long while since I used this subject line. I can check off another life-long ambition: I now have a premium pressing of what may be Joni Mitchell's most signifcant statement on the art of revealing songwriting: BLUE. As far as I can tell, Reprise in the Netherlands (hey!) pressed it on 180 grams of vinyl. It was picked up by Simply Vinyl in the UK I guess and I've seen that advertised. Strangely, mine came from a dealer in Australia. It's a small world... but being true believers, we all have known that for a long time. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:01:15 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Backlash to Micheal Moore, njc It's disappointing that a self-described "documentary film" maker would gloat like this. He may have some good points, but this *ain't* based on the values of a documentary. All the best, Lama (who's never gonna forgive him for including a rabbit killed & skinned in 30 seconds during a "documentary film" supposedly "about" GM plant closings in Flint, Michigan.) np: Nellie McKay Micheal Moore said, in part, >Newspaper after newspaper wrote stories in tones of breathless disbelief about people who called themselves Independents and Republicans walking out of the movie theater shaken and in tears, proclaiming that they could not, in good conscience, vote for George W. Bush.> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:33:26 EDT From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: LOL - Sarcastic Joni lyrics I was listening to "Amelia" from "Hejira", after reading how so many people love that as their favorite album. I thought this line was funny: "People will tell you where they're from, They'll tell you where to go". BUT what I heard was: "People won't tell you where their from, they'll tell you where to go". Before I read the lyrics, I took this as a sad, but true comment on our sometimes narcissistic society. I began to think about other lyrics in which Joni is sarcastic (something I love about her). I also love this line from "Song for Sharon" "And she lit a candle for my love luck, and $18 went up in smoke". Any other funny or sarcastic Joni lyrics anyone would like to share? Thanks, Wes ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #299 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)