From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #267 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 16 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 267 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: [NortheastJonifest] Very sad news about Mary Grace [MINGSDANCE@aol.co] Re: Joni live on video/dvd [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: OFFER: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 21-30 of JM Covers [Emi] Jonifest 2004 [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] 10 very bad album covers -- njc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] David and Judy [Jerry Notaro ] MG njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Mary Grace [Kate ] pittsburgh! [Jennifer Faulkner ] Re: Jonifest 2004 [Lori Fye ] Re: Jonifest 2004 - P.S. [Lori Fye ] fresh air today [vince ] Re: Mary Grace tribute page [Lori Fye ] Re: 10 very bad album covers -- njc ["Donna Binkley" ] Pete Townshend likes Joni ["Guy Brown" ] More very bad album covers -- totally njc ["Azeem" ] Re: More very bad album covers -- totally njc [Em ] Joni Covers 41-50 [PassScribe@aol.com] Krall on the tube njc [Randy Remote ] njc Detroit Pistons [vince ] Re: njc Detroit Pistons [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: njc Detroit Pistons [Susan Guzzi ] Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 ["Music Is Special" Subject: Re: OFFER: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 21-30 of JM Covers Hi, folks! Came yesterday, gone today (I've hired a chinese cuadrilla for help me with this :-) The discs are already in its way to our mutual friend Doug in Ontario Let me repeat: Many thanks to Eric who spent so much money and effort for setting up this "train", so all of us could jump in. Many thanks to Wunderbar Bob, for being so generous and good working man: Cheers up! You're the King! and last but not least... Many thanks to Laura from Illinois for being so efficient and generous and kind... Love y'all! Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: James Last: "This Flight Tonight" he he he ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:19:28 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Jonifest 2004 In a message dated 6/15/2004 7:30:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmoore@esva.net writes: What's our deadline Ashara? "Technically" the deadline for all money and forms to be in is today, June 15th. Of course, if we are able to accomodate people after this date, we will. I feel at this point, I should notify Full Moon so they can sell off the rooms that are not taken. With the numbers the way they are, I feel it is only fair to allow them to sell rooms if we are not able to fill the center the way we have in the past. If I do this, it means of course, that we no longer will have the place exclusively, and it will most likely affect our ability to come back to Full Moon on an exclusive basis, if at all. If anyone is seriously thinking of going to Jonifest this year and has not sent in money or registered yet, I urge you to send me an e-mail RIGHT AWAY so I can see where we stand before I make the phone call. Thanks. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:45:10 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: 10 very bad album covers -- njc These are so bad I just had to share. My fave is "Let Me Touch Him." http://porktornado.diaryland.com/albumcover.html - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:45:39 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: David and Judy For those of you in the New York area, David and his wife Judy are appearing: - --------------- KRESTON & LAHM AT DANNY'S IN JUNE - --------------- Judy Kreston & David Lahm bring their new show "As Time Goes By" to DANNY'S SKYLIGHT ROOM (342 West 46th Street, NYC - 1-212-265-8133 - http://www.dannysgrandseapalace.com/ ) for two more Saturdays in June, the 19th and 26th at 9:15 pm. The show celebrates their 24 musical years together. Joining them are Tim Ferguson on bass and Bobby Shankin on drums. Director is Richard Hendrickson. There is a $20 music charge, $10 minimum. - --------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:51:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: MG njc Julius, your post is so very beautiful. & the song you quoted is just so hauntingly appropriate. you said " I know the good departed will be fine in Glory, it's me down here I worry about, right? It's like: "Lord, how am I supposed to go on without her on this flawed planet? God, please, I need my friends." Apparently, He needs her more. That has to be okay, for now." I learned with the death of my mother (that came too soon though certainly not as too soon as mg's) that indeed her love continued to exist & affect me in even more powerful ways when she was gone from this earth. these angels on earth are here of us still though we cannot see, hear or touch them. I hope her children & husband find some small kernel of comfort in this in their own way in time. they are the ones I mourn for most deeply today. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:56:18 -0500 From: Kate Subject: Mary Grace I too am very sorry to hear about Mary Grace's passing. My mom, age 63, has just been diagnosed with terminal cancer; it seems the most terrible thing in the world to me, right now, like living in a nightmare. So I don't know if there is any comfort to be had, for MG's family and friends who have seen her through her illness and now seen her out of this world. But I hope there is, somehow, some day. Kate du Nord Bitchin' 'Bout Gran http://xoetc.antville.org Who does she think she is, Anaos Nin? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Faulkner Subject: pittsburgh! Hey everybody! I'm in Pittsburgh! Does anyone live here? Jen Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:07:31 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Jonifest 2004 May I chime in here? Ashara wrote: > I feel at this point, I should notify Full Moon so they can sell off the rooms > that are not taken. With the numbers the way they are, I feel it is only fair > to allow them to sell rooms if we are not able to fill the center the way we > have in the past. If I do this, it means of course, that we no longer will > have the place exclusively, and it will most likely affect our ability to come > back to Full Moon on an exclusive basis, if at all. Folks, we went through this same thing last year (again and again the same situation), and it created a lot of stress for Ashara in particular, as she literally puts her name on the dotted line to guarantee certain things so that we can have this fest at the Full Moon. It's SUCH a lovely place to relax and do pretty much whatever you want, you really would not regret spending a long weekend there. If you have any reservations at all about going to JoniFest this year, nix them and GO! Life is short and ... you just never know ... this could be the year La Joan decides to surprise us all and show up herself. What if Joni showed up at JoniFest and you weren't there? What a bummer that would be! You would surely have tears streaming down your poddy face. ; ) Get thyself to http://www.jonifest.com right now and sign up!! See you there ... Lori P.S. - Also visit http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/jonifestfood.html and http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/album25 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:09:18 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Jonifest 2004 - P.S. Be sure to send Ashara an email (AsharaProducLLC@aol.com) to let her know you'll be there! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:11:55 -0400 From: vince Subject: fresh air today http://freshair.npr.org Today's guest David Sedaris spoke much of Joni, has a chapter title in his new book Hejira, and that was so important they played a bit of Joni singing Hejira. I prefer to think of it as a radio tribute to MG on her current Hejira taking her to a place where she can live without pain and suffering and limitations. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:23:24 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Mary Grace tribute page Mary P. wrote: > Please send all materials to mgtribute@lrfye.lunarpages.com. Please be sure to send any photos you have too! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:48:30 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: 10 very bad album covers -- njc Smurph i've seen these before but they are still good for another laugh! I think my fave is #9 "Joyce" Is Joyce really a woman? Cuz she looks suspiciously like Dustin Hoffman in drag playing Tootsie IMHO... db >>> 6/15/2004 8:45:10 AM >>> These are so bad I just had to share. My fave is "Let Me Touch Him." http://porktornado.diaryland.com/albumcover.html - --Smurf This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:14:51 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: 10 very bad album covers -- njc Donna writes: << she looks suspiciously like Dustin Hoffman in drag playing Tootsie >> This is just waaaaaaaay too synchro! Today Matt Drudge is running a photo on drudgereport.com of Teresa Heinz Kerry and comparing her to Tootsie! I alerted gawker.com this morning and they set up a link to it because they have an ongoing thing about how gay the Drudge Report is becoming. Go here: http://www.drudgereport.com/tootsie.JPG or just go directly to gawker.com! - --Bob "Musicians don't retire; they stop when there's no more music in them." --Louis Armstrong ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:56:09 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: RE: 10 very bad album covers -- njc Smurf wrote: > These are so bad I just had to share. My fave is "Let Me Touch Him." > > http://porktornado.diaryland.com/albumcover.html And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, here are the next ten .... http://www.cenedella.com/stone/archives/000590.html Hell ____________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too" - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:13:37 -0700 From: "Guy Brown" Subject: Pete Townshend likes Joni I was reading Pete's diary at http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=88&zone=diary and found this para: I am listening to Joni Mitchell's' CD called TRAVELOGUE. It is a revisit to her career with full orchestra. It is, quite simply, a quantum masterpiece. Joni is at the peak of her powers. Even her paintings seem to me to be especially revelatory gathered as they are in the sleeve. Someone told me last night, after The Who's show at Madison Square Garden, that she plans no more recording. If she never made another record, this one will stand as a testament not only to her work, but to the greatness of American Orchestral music. I hear Oliver Nelson, Aaron Copland, Edgar Meyer and even Thomas Newman in this work. But her arranger, under the guidance of her ex- husband Larry Klein - who could do nothing more to express his ongoing love and respect - is Vince Mendoza. This guy knows how to score, and someone certainly knows how to fix the right musicians. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:20:27 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: More very bad album covers -- totally njc Oh, I haven't had such a good guffaw in months! A couple more links, as I'm on a roll here. The first is the "second" set of covers from Hell's link, only this time with sarcy comments from Mr Porktornado - I have to confess the blurb about Jim Gage had my crying with laughter. http://porktornado.diaryland.com/covers2.html The second has some duplications, but some fabulous new entries - check out the gay dogs!! http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/ Azeem in London - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 02/06/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: More very bad album covers -- totally njc I didn't want to do a "me too" post but cannot resist. HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! thank god for this stuff. :D Em < wrote: > Oh, I haven't had such a good guffaw in months! A couple more links, > as > I'm on a roll here. The first is the "second" set of covers from > Hell's > link, only this time with sarcy comments from Mr Porktornado - I have > to > confess the blurb about Jim Gage had my crying with laughter. > > http://porktornado.diaryland.com/covers2.html > > The second has some duplications, but some fabulous new entries - > check > out the gay dogs!! > > http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/ > > Azeem in London > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 02/06/2004 > ===== .............. "I'm a wheel I'm a wheel, I can roll I can feel, and you can't stop me turning. I'm the sun I'm the sun I can move I can run, but you'll never stop me burning." ...rainbow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:14:34 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Joni Covers 41-50 Hi all, I'm just finishing copying the Joni Covers 41-50 and will soon be ready to ship them to the next person who'd like them. Please send me your name & address offsite and your promise to reoffer them (as per Bob & eric's conditions) and I'll get them out to you by the end of this week. Kenny B Eric's original post: In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers of Joni's songs - some 1500 in all - this begins the launch of the Perpetual Joni Covers Trains. For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work. When the disks come to you, you make copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them around within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect that to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting them get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the tracks for years. Bob copied 50+ disks for me to launch this and I have copied them so there is a LOT of time sunk into offering these up. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to re-offer them, you will have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to compress these into MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next person - MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so please pass the masters along. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:00:26 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Krall on the tube njc Diana Krall will be on Leno on Wed Kilborn on Thurs Don't know whether these are new or recent re's ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:02:29 -0400 From: vince Subject: njc Detroit Pistons Champions of the NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trying to remember who we beat... l a something? Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit! Home of Eminem, Joni and Chuck, Kid Rock and Aretha - how could we lose? Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:11:41 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: njc Detroit Pistons Congratulations, Detroit!!! Congratulations, Vince!!! Detroit Pistons: Basketball Kings of the World!! What a great series they played! They made history. Good on them! - -Julius revrvl@chartermi.net writes: > Champions of the NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: njc Detroit Pistons Wooooo Hoooooo Baby!!!!! Was a time I NEVER would have rooted for the Pistons - but its a new day! Seems the Lakers have dried up! Congratualtions Deeeeetroit ... and Vince ... what's next - perhaps - the White Sox?!!! Peace, Susan vince wrote: Champions of the NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trying to remember who we beat... l a something? Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit! Home of Eminem, Joni and Chuck, Kid Rock and Aretha - how could we lose? Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:56:26 -0500 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 Current issue of ICE says on page 11: The first theme-oriented collection by Joni Mitchell coalesces on July 27 as Beginning of Survival, a raft of socially conscious material that reaches stores via Geffen. Project coordinator Mike Ragogna tells ICE "Joni feels this is her most important collection. The 16 songs are sequenced thematically; she lays out warning signs about what's happening in politics, religion, ecology. She's saying "its time to take a look" trying to raise the consciousness of people to deal with issues like these. And she's suggesting a place to start." Mitchell adorns the digipak with about 10 newly created, original paintings ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:08:13 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 This is from the newswire: THE BEGINNING OF SURVIVAL features tracks from DOG EAT DOG (1985), CHALK MARK IN A RAINSTORM (1988), NIGHT RIDE HOME (1991), TURBULENT INDIGO (1994) and TAMING THE TIGER (1998). Among the guest artists heard are Willie Nelson, Don Henley, James Taylor, Michael McDonald, Thomas Dolby, Wayne Shorter, Manu Katche, and actors Rod Steiger and Iron Eyes Cody. Each selection has been 96k/24-bit mastered from the original master tapes.Mitchell, who co-produced the collection, also contributes her original artwork and a revealing and instructive essay. In addition, the package includes complete lyrics and a copy of the famous 1852 Letter to the President from Chief Seattle, a philosophical cornerstone of the environmental movement. On THE BEGINNING OF SURVIVAL, Mitchell, who has been honored with a Lifetime Achievement Grammy and was listed among VH1's millennium-ending "100 Greatest Women Of Rock 'N' Roll," rails against the evils in modern society and offers hope for the future. She tackles consumerism in "The Reoccurring Dream" and exploitation in "The Windfall (Everything For Nothing)" and "Sex Kills." Scorched are the corrupting power of money in "Dog Eat Dog," "No Apologies" and "Passion Play (The Story Of Jesus And Zachius ... The Little Tax Collector)," of advertising and image-making in "Fiction," of televangelists in "Tax Free" (with Steiger delivering the money-grubbing sermon) and of the values of Western culture in "The Three Great Stimulants." A news-specific track is "The Magdalene Laundries," the true story of the horrid conditions suffered by young unwed pregnant Irishwomen who were sent there in decades past.Mitchell's passion leaps from "Slouching Toward Bethlehem," her adaptation of a poem by W.B. Yeats; the eerie "The Beat Of Black Wings," and the tale of hunger in "Ethiopia." Her championing of Native American culture rises from "Lakota," in which Iron Eyes Cody is heard, and its corollary environmental beliefs in her adaptation of the Sons Of The Pioneers' classic "Cool Water" (with Willie Nelson).THE BEGINNING OF SURVIVAL, an optimistic title in itself, concludes on a hopeful note with a song whose title might very well be applied a la Don Quixote attacking the windmills to the influential and inspiring Mitchell -- "Impossible Dreamer." Source: Geffen/UMe - -Julius In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:59:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, musicisspecial@hotmail.com writes: > Current issue of ICE says on page 11: > > The first theme-oriented collection by Joni Mitchell coalesces on July 27 as > Beginning of Survival, a raft of socially conscious material that reaches > stores via Geffen. Project coordinator Mike Ragogna tells ICE "Joni feels > this is her most important collection. The 16 songs are sequenced > thematically; she lays out warning signs about what's happening in politics, > religion, ecology. She's saying "its time to take a look" trying to raise > the consciousness of people to deal with issues like these. And she's > suggesting a place to start." Mitchell adorns the digipak with about 10 > newly created, original paintings ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:32:26 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: One man's understanding of Joan Not mine, mind you. I couldn't find Joni's new CD on Amazon yet. But the essay that came up when I searched for her, at the link below, made me go "hmm," somewhat. Thought I'd pass it on. Are you out there, Michael Logan? If so, where's Part 2, please? - -Julius So you'd like to... Understand the Music of Joni Mitchell (Part 1) A guide by Michael Logan, Avid Listener http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/VWYD2O38PD24/qid=1 087363230/sr=18 1/ref=sr_18_1/002-6817292-2764802 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:41:52 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 > THE BEGINNING OF SURVIVAL features tracks from DOG EAT DOG > (1985), CHALK MARK IN A RAINSTORM (1988), NIGHT RIDE HOME > (1991), TURBULENT INDIGO (1994) and TAMING THE TIGER (1998). Does this release frighten anyone besides me? I hate to think that Joni has resorted to the "let's repackage my old material in a zillion ways" phase of her career. Will this end up like The Who's old material has? "Let's see, which of these 17 greatest hits packages shall I buy?..." I think it's sad that she's once again in a "political mood" but the only new idea she can cast upon it is a few liner notes. Les... grumpy, I guess. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:56:19 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni live on video/dvd, njc at this point Wes (KindTaper@aol.com) said, >Hi, > >I joined your group with the hopes of finding others >interested in trading live Joni shows on CD, video >or DVD. Hmmm, curious. I joined to discuss the life and times of Joni Mitchell. We discussed this topic just so you must be brand new, this week. This is your first post and you're looking for video, right? Since you're familiar with "Woman Of Heart and Mind", and you're asking about videos, let's start at the beginning. "Shadows and Light" is available right now on DVD. To me, this is the starting point for Joni on video. On ebay, you can find 2nd hand copies of "Refuge Of the Roads" on VHS. It's out of print but will be out on DVD soon. Also on ebay, you'll find 2nd hand VHS copies of "Come In From The Cold." "Painting With Words and Music" is available right now on DVD. Wes, I'm sure you're a stand-up person but when someone's handle includes the word "taper" and his first post is stumping for video, I'm suspicious. I'm not the list admin or anything but what do you like/dislike about the videos mentioned so far? Compare/constrast. Use descriptive language. Spill. Build some trust. All the best, Lama Covington, KY, US ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:12:06 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: June 16 On June 16 the following articles were published: 1979: "Joni...er...um" - Melody Maker (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=187 1998: "Holland Festival Tribute to Joni Mitchell" - JMDL (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=125 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #267 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)