From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #243 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 27 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 243 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- 1900 (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: TV crushes (NJC) [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: kd Lang, jc..now NJC [Richard Goldman ] Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc [Em ] Re: The McGarrigles & Wainwrights in the UK [NJC] [Richard Goldman ] Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: kd Lang, jc..now NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Weepy Smurph/Jonifest ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: The McGarrigles & Wainwrights in the UK [NJC] [Jerry Notaro ] RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc [Em ] RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc [Em ] RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc [Lori Fye ] RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc [colin ] Laugh of the day... njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Thorogood NJC [Em ] Re: New compilation CD / geffen box [Catherine McKay ] Re: Free Joni covers Mania! [Catherine McKay ] Joni Mitchell Show at American Conservatory Theatre in SF [Mike Friedman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:40:48 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: 1900 (NJC) i know, em!!! horrible scene but what a great movie. of course, the thing i will never ever forget from that movie is seeing de niro's HUGE you-know-what. depardieu's look like a gnocchi in comparison. i wonder if they cut that scene for the us release. *W*, reminiscing and sighing... > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Em > Enviado el: Jueves, 27 de Mayo de 2004 01:24 p.m. > Para: Smurfycopy@aol.com; jonilist > Asunto: Re: TV crushes (NJC) > > >He's swinging this kid around and > around and smashes his head into a mantlepiece, killing him. Its been > years so I don't remember the rest - but, an unattractive scene. > Gorgeous flick tho. > Em oops, Jinger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:38:07 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: TV crushes (NJC) In a message dated 5/27/04 12:30:07 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << *W*, who loves only murphy, who quotes father sigmund! >> Well, sometimes a little blue cigar IS just a little blue cigar! XO, *W*! Miss you madly, as does the entire US. - --Smurf "Everywhere I turn, I find that a poet has been there before me." --Sigmund Freud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:57:30 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: kd Lang, jc..now NJC Actually, k.d. is touring, it's her symphony orchestra tour, all summer..... All the dates are here: http://www.kdlang.com/news.php The only one I know of, with special guest Rufus Wainwright is July 30-31 at the Hollywood Bowl..... dreamy:) (thanks for the fab London review, Lieve! I've got another one, that is a bit more descriptive, and then the next night in Dublin, sounded even more terrific... I'll post them separately....), ~Richard n.p. Peter Gabriel, "Of These, Hope", from "Passion" soundtrack, as heard on RadioParadise, which plays a ton of Joni, by the way... >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 >From: Susan Guzzi >Subject: Re: kd Lang, jc..now NJC > > > >And as for k.d. - she is here in Chicago this summer - singing with >the Chicago Symphony Orchestra .... actually a suburban outdoor >arena - Ravinia. Not sure of the dates - or I forgot cause I cant >go. But its a beautiful place and also happnes to be the venue I >saw Joni on her Miles of Aisles tour. And hell we all know that was >just a few years ago! Damn is it really almost (gulp) 30 years!? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc Hi Wally you know what? I think they even "cut" the DeNiro penis scene (lol I'm sure it had another name) from the version I saw in Germany around 1980. Because I don't remember ever seeing DeNiro's dong and I think I would remember it if I had. I know I've seen Depardieu's. Seemed to me it was a good size..altho hey, I'm a grrrrl, they allll seem pretty big to me. lol You know what was a shock as far as Italian flicks..whew, Piero Passolini flicks....what a trip..those images still stick w/me..I'm thinking of his "Canterbury Tales". I almost had a heart attack recently when my Dad told me he'd been given a video of "Caligula", but then I realized it was some "other" production of Caligula and not (thank god) the Pasolini version. Would be a a bad influence on my father I think.. anyway, yeah I think DeNiro's thang was definately edited out of the cut I saw, of 1900. :) Jing < wrote: > i know, em!!! horrible scene but what a great movie. > > of course, the thing i will never ever forget from that movie is > seeing de > niro's HUGE you-know-what. depardieu's look like a gnocchi in > comparison. i > wonder if they cut that scene for the us release. > *W*, reminiscing and sighing... ===== .............. "I'm a wheel I'm a wheel, I can roll I can feel, and you can't stop me turning. I'm the sun I'm the sun I can move I can run, but you'll never stop me burning." ...rainbow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:15:00 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: The McGarrigles & Wainwrights in the UK [NJC] Thanks for the fab review! By all accounts this 4-show mini-family tour sounds fabulous. Lucky you, Linda Thompson and Teddy. They didn't show up in Dublin the next night, but... the McGarrigle/Wainwrights all were more rehearsed. Who knows who will show up in Manchester tonight, or Glasgow tomorrow! Here's a friend's recap of both London, and then Dublin. They're both fabulous reviews and reads...I wish I was there! Richard (in San Francisco) n.p. Guster, "Come Downstairs and Say Hello", on RadioParadise.com (loads of Joni played there.....) ok... the reviews: London, May 24, 2004, Royal Festival Hall It was a lovely night and the venue was lovely and was packed (possibly the biggest audience for Rufus in the UK? at least headlining) - I had seen Martha before last October in Hammersmith and she was on top form tonight. On stage were McGarrigles, Rufus, Martha and Lilly Lankin, Anna McGarrigle's daughter(and - Rufus' cousin). It was a nice affair with people going off and coming back on stage - with Rufus on stage for most of the songs. There was no intermission, and with two encores, ran to about 2 hours. Okay...in NO order! Rufus played Poses (with Martha), Dinner at Eight, Beauty Mark, Foolish Love, One Man Guy (with Martha AND Teddy Thompson), Somewhere over the Rainbow (with his one of the McGarrigles - cant remember which!)...Linda Thompson joined for a cover of a Leonard Cohen song. Martha played a lovely song called 'bloody motherf***ing a**hole', and 'Factory' The McGarrigles (along with Rufus and Martha and Lilly) played a couple of their songs... (see set list below). All were on stage for 'Talk to me of Mendecino' and 'Goodnight Sweetheart' (which Rufus started and completely forgot the lyrics to, singing something about 'i'm like judy gardland...but i'm stone cold sober'), and of course the song Rufus tried on his own in Camden, 'Hometown Waltz'. I'm fairly sure they played a stunning version of 'Hard Times Come Again No More' from the 'Songs from the Civil War'Album. Rufus was looking very smart and was in a childish mood amongst his family - making in-jokes and sitting slouched and making faces. He was wearing smart black trousers and a lovely purple/red/blue striped shirt...Martha, as usual was beautiful in a very short skirt and high heels. At the end people were freely shouting out songs to play like 'Cigarettes...' which Rufus said 'I cant play that, but I promise I will next time when I bring my band'...someone else shouted for 'Gay Messiah', which Rufus joked about it being a family night and his Mum confirming 'we WONT be playing Gay Messiah'! audience member "gay messiah!" rufus: "that's not a family song. This is a family show!" Kate: "there'll be no gay messiah at *this* show!" Rufus played 'Pretty Things' as well! The set list was such: but they obviously veered from it.... heart like a wheel sunflower bloody mother poses hometown waltz i eat dinner alice blue gown black bird somewhere over the rainbow nancy one man guy early one morning factory beauty mark love is mendocino dinner at eight rocky road don't forget goodnight sweetheart Dublin: May 25, 2004, Vicar Street It was an excellent show. I'd been expecting the McGarrigle Sisters to do the opening set, so I was surprised when the whole family arrived on stage together, and when it continued to be a family affair throughout, with various members entering or exiting the stage at different points. The setlist was as follows, although I don't think they stuck to that exact order in the latter half of the show: Heart Like A Wheel Sunflower Bloody Mother Poses Hometown Waltz I Eat Dinner Alice Blue Gown Black Bird Somewhere Over The Rainbow This Life Rocky Road Factory Pretty Things Beauty Mark Love Is Talk To Me Of Mendocino Dinner At Eight Early One Morning Don't Forget Imaginary Love (down as 'Foolish Love' on setlist, but Rufus changed it in response to calls from the crowd earlier on for 'Imaginary Love') Hard Times From the outset, the whole family got a great response from the crowd. "It's great to be back in Dublin", announced Rufus, when he wandered out, prompting the inevitable quotes back of "And you're a little bit Irish!" He was somewhat conservatively dressed, judging by photos of past gigs: dark grey suit and pink and yellow striped shirt. Having heard him at the Lyric last year, I found his stage manner completely different. At the Lyric, he was using his wit to cover up the many lyrical and musical mistakes. At Vicar Street, whilst still witty, he seemed more relaxed, perhaps because the shared spotlight took the pressure off a bit. He didn't miss a single lyric or a musical beat, and the professional attitude was there from the start. No police tape around the guitars, this time out. The opener, 'Heart Like A Wheel', got cheers from the audience as soon as Rufus started it off, but when a spot of feedback put Anna McGarrigle off her solo verse, he gave a yelp of 'Wrong verse! Wrong verse! Start again!' And so off they did go again, nailing it the second time out. The whole atmosphere was nicely ramshackle and almost like sitting in on a rehearsal. I haven't a hope of reconstructing the order in which they trooped on and off the stage, or simply ambled to the back and sat down. I was really looking forward to hearing Martha Wainwright doing backing vocals, but got a surprise with her solo performances, hearing her full vocal range. She has an excellent voice. I also liked her dramatic flair. 'Bloody Mother' was her first solo spot. The others left the stage without warning, at which point she struck a forlorn pose and waved goodbye to both wings, before a faux-cackle and the adoption of an "I've been waiting for this!" attitude. My Martha highlight was the French song that she sang, however. I can't guess the name, even with the setlist, but she went for it in a melodramatic fashion and it worked damn well. Lily Lankin(?), Anna's daughter, gave a solo rendition of 'Alice Blue Gown' and had a sweet voice. It was impossible to keep track of the exact order in which the various family members worked together or did solo spots. Suffice to say that it was like musical chairs at times, with much swapping of seats and swapping of instruments. Rufus told people during one of the songs to just pretend it was the family living room, comparing the setup at another point to one of Judy Garland's Christmas specials. "All we need now are for thirty singing, dancing Santa Clauses to appear." Kate McGarrigle remarked of the touring situation, "We're saving a fortune on therapy bills," before deadpanning "It's all a form of love." Rufus was happy to chat about his previous visits to Dublin, whenever he reappeared, and I was impressed by his memory. "This place used be smaller, right?" he said of the Vicar Street venue. At which point, Anna McGarrigle shook her head sadly and said "Where did they get all this new space from? They probably made some people homeless." Whereupon Rufus gave a huge sigh, pulled a comical face, and said " Al ways look on the bright side!" He said he'd last been in Dublin for the Millenium and apparently wasn't joking: "So, I was, like, watching the fireworks going off in all the other cities like Sydney, and watching all these huge celebrations from the other countries all day, and it gets to Dublin and...there's, like, one firework!" This sent the friend I was with into peels of laughter. The two of us had also been in Dublin for the Millenium, given that I was up there for the purpose of dragging her to a free Divine Comedy gig in Merrion Square. Before the gig, she wanted to see the bridges being lit up, as advertised. At the apppointed hour, we dangled over one of the many bridges with the rest of the milling crowds and waited for a luminous display. At the appointed hour, a faint greenish tinge (more green than usual) could - almost imperceptibly - be made out in parts of the water. After some more dangling, we finally went up to ask a police officer if that was it: "Yeah...jaysus, you wouldn't want to be charging for it, would you?" A green tinge and a firecracker. I'm guessing we've forever lost Rufus to Hogmanay and Times Square. The inter-family banter was extremely entertaining throughout. At one point, Martha and Mom were talking over each other, whilst Rufus was talking over both of them; Anna and Kate kind of got a little Greek chorus thing going, with their various comments. Both came out in tears after Rufus had performed an excellent version of 'Dinner At Eight', talking of how the song always makes them cry, with Anna saying "God! I hope nobody ever writes a song like that about me. No matter how strong, I'm going to take you down with one little song." Much rueful headshaking ensued, on her part. At another point, after praising the new smoking ban in pubs and venues, Kate was claiming to be a social smoker who only puffed her way through one a day, thanks to the fact that her lungs are "fucked". Whereupon Anna's indignant voice came wafting from behind the curtain in the wings: "You smoke millions of cigarettes a day!!" The familial crosstalk reached its peak on what Rufus described as "The 'Irish' song", hastily reassuring people, "No! Not 'Danny Boy'!" Mom: What do you mean 'The Irish Song'? Rufus: You know! The Irish Song! With the harp. [mimes harp] Mom/Aunt: What do you mean? Rufus: The harp!! [mimes harp again] Just play the song! Mom: What key? How can I play the song when... Rufus: It doesn't matter what key... Mom: Do you know the lyrics to this? Rufus: [drowned out in general onstage yabbering] Mom: Martha! Do you know the lyrics to this? Anna: What song is this? ...and so forth. When they finally got going, the song had a familiar air, but I can't put a name to it as I'm not too up on my rebel songs. It was pretty hilarious, though: Rufus has earlier jokingly referred to himself as "the Gay Patriarch" but he pretty much put it into practice on this song. Trying to get his mother and aunt to sing a verse by themselves ("Girls!"), he began conducting madly with his right arm, perched on his stool up front, whilst belting out the lyrics, music teacher style. (You know the style. It's the one where the teachers know instinctively that if they stop singing themselves, the choral attempt of their charges will collapse in a heap.) Not happy with the demure sing-a-long he got then, he tried again later in the song: "Now I want to hear you girls singing a verse together!" This time, he succeeded. The role reversal was funny. He said that 'Hometown Waltz' was about wanting to torch your hometown. At which point, Kate wryly advised him not to do it: "They'd know it's you now." 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow' was another highlight for me, performed with just him on vocals and Kate on piano. I thought I'd read somewhere that he'd done a version of the song, but I'd never heard it before last night. He introduced it with his tale of arranging his mother's high-heeled shoes in a circle when he was a kid, getting a childhood toy called Toto to spectate, stepping into the shoes in turn, and then 'melting' in a suitably witchlike fashion all afternoon. Kate: "I never had high-heeled shoes, Rufus." "Yeah, you did, Mom. It was the seventies." In 'Beauty Mark' he got his Oirish references in again by singing: "And I do have your red face (because you're Irish)..." Finally, 'Talk To Me Of Mendocino' seemed to be one of the highlights for the crowd who knew the McGarrigle's recording output. All in all, a really great gig. What it lacked in Rufus' own numbers, it made up for in watching the family interact together. My head is currently begging to hit a pillow, so I will say goodnight. I hope Rufus comes back soon. We'll try and find a box of sparklers for him in the meantime. >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:08:18 +0100 >From: ReckersL@ebrd.com >Subject: The McGarrigles & Wainwrights in the UK [NJC] > >Richard Goldman mentioned on the 18th of May: > >"I'm not sure this series of concerts has been mentioned on here >before.....and perhaps people in the UK would like to know (although >London's Royal Festival Hall show is sold-out), >"An Evening with Kate & Anna McGarrigle, with guests Rufus Wainwright >and Martha Wainwright" >London: Royal Festival Hall: 5/24 (sold-out) ... sorry Colin....:( >(or maybe you're already going....) > >[snip] > >Of course I'm sure some of you know the Hal Wilner produced show, >"They Came So Far For Beauty", Leonard Cohen Tribute, with Laurie >Anderson, Nick Cave, Jarvis Cocker, The Handsome Family, Kate and >Anna McGarrigle, Beth Orton, Linda Thomson, Teddy Thompson, Martha >Wainwright, Rufus Wainwright, Special guests Perla Batalla and Julie >Christensen, Music Director Steve Bernstein , all three shows at the >Brighton Dome in Brighton, England, have been sold-out for weeks....." > > >Me now: >Yes I managed to see the show on Monday in London. Luckily I booked long in >advance. And was I glad I did! It was really great. I know Kate and >Anna's music every since their big hit (at least in Belgium) with the >French-language "Complainte pour Ste. Catherine" in around 1976. Still one >of my favourites, that song. I missed Kate and Anna 2 years ago at >Glastonbury, so I was really happy to catch up now. I also really like >Rufus, especially after Kenny B's special introduction at Jonifest last >year! What a voice! I know some people don't like that voice, call it >whiney, but I think it's amazing - so unique! Martha was also a revelation. >She's really cocky and confident, a really natural performer with a good >voice, even if not as pure and special as Rufus's. >What I found so moving, over and beyond the great music, was seeing this >family function on stage. Mother, auntie, brother and sister, all excellent >musicians, singing each other's songs, hugging and patting each other, >quibbling over what key to play in, etc... I just thought: it's so good >that generations now can unite over music in a way I feel I can now also do >with my children, but in a way I never could with my parents, and I think >most of my generation could not do with the older generation in general. >Rufus also recounted how their grandma (my guess is that that was from the >Wainwright side, she must have been quite a commanding dame, which seems to >fit with my impression of the Wainwrights - I mean, if you give your sons >generational numbers, that's normally an indication isn't it?) would command >them to give family concerts on their Sunday visits to her! >Kate and Anna struck me as a bit subdued. Maybe they were a bit overwhelmed >with the enormous applause Rufus was getting - but in fact they seemed very >pleased with that, and very proud for him. But I hardly saw them smile. In >fact one of the first songs was one that Kate announced as "my most >depressing song ever" and it was just about the dreariness of daily life >after all passion is gone. >While Martha and Rupert often stood and moved along the stage, mum and >auntie sat down on a chair most of the time, apologising for the fact that >they were so unrehearsed - but the audience loved them anyway and why not? >They may have missed the lyrics of a few songs, but it was just great to see >such natural musicians play together - and as they kept jokingly repeating: >"This is really a club gig". >OK, that's my review for what it's worth. > >Oh I must add: Linda and Teddy Thompson (sp?) also joined for a guest song >each. I felt spoiled! >Lieve. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:25:00 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc definitely anti-american! i think W, the other one, should do something about it. i say, we want de niro's schlong and we want it now! *W*, advocating for the rights of americans. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] > Enviado el: Jueves, 27 de Mayo de 2004 02:12 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz; Smurfycopy@aol.com; jonilist > Asunto: Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc > > > Hi Wally > you know what? I think they even "cut" the DeNiro penis scene (lol I'm > sure it had another name) from the version I saw in Germany around > 1980. Because I don't remember ever seeing DeNiro's dong and I think I > would remember it if I had. I know I've seen Depardieu's. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:20:54 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc Jinge writes: << I'm a grrrrl, they allll seem pretty big to me >> Thanks! XO, - --Smurf "How long have you been dreaming about this Argentinean firecracker?" --Sigmund Freud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:46:32 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: kd Lang, jc..now NJC > Actually, k.d. is touring, it's her symphony orchestra tour, all summer..... Saw the May 19th show in Clearwater with the Florida Orchestra. She is certainly one of our greatest living singers performing. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:58:27 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Weepy Smurph/Jonifest Smurphy admitted: My pal Julius Mills and I do a killer imitation of the star-crossed Rosenbergs. Our performance has been called "electrifying." And Alison Einerson, who has apparently abandoned this list, does a very mean Roy Cohn -- when she's not too busy watching her mother! And Donna bemoaned: Bob Murphy, enquiring minds want to know if you, Julius and Allison will be at Jonifest 2004?? We need the star-crossed Rosenbergs and as many Ethel Merman impersonators as possible! Kay Ashley that means you too! Well I've resorted to naming names now... That said, this is a gentle reminder that ALL DEPOSITS AND BALANCES FOR JONIFEST 2004 ARE DUE BY JUNE 15TH!!!!! Our numbers so far are low so I am hoping a lot more of you are planning to come and just haven't gotten around to signing up yet. If so get on board as soon as you can! Don't miss it, let's make this the Best Fest ever. Make your reservations for Jonifest 2004 today! Here is a link to the JMDL website for your convenience. www.jmdl.com Love, Donna This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:56:12 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: The McGarrigles & Wainwrights in the UK [NJC] Do yourself a favor and get the McGarrigle Family Hour DVD. One of my favorites. Jerry > Richard Goldman mentioned on the 18th of May: > > "I'm not sure this series of concerts has been mentioned on here > before.....and perhaps people in the UK would like to know (although > London's Royal Festival Hall show is sold-out), > "An Evening with Kate & Anna McGarrigle, with guests Rufus Wainwright > and Martha Wainwright" > London: Royal Festival Hall: 5/24 (sold-out) ... sorry Colin....:( > (or maybe you're already going....) > > [snip] > > Of course I'm sure some of you know the Hal Wilner produced show, > "They Came So Far For Beauty", Leonard Cohen Tribute, with Laurie > Anderson, Nick Cave, Jarvis Cocker, The Handsome Family, Kate and > Anna McGarrigle, Beth Orton, Linda Thomson, Teddy Thompson, Martha > Wainwright, Rufus Wainwright, Special guests Perla Batalla and Julie > Christensen, Music Director Steve Bernstein , all three shows at the > Brighton Dome in Brighton, England, have been sold-out for weeks....." > > > Me now: > Yes I managed to see the show on Monday in London. Luckily I booked long in > advance. And was I glad I did! It was really great. I know Kate and > Anna's music every since their big hit (at least in Belgium) with the > French-language "Complainte pour Ste. Catherine" in around 1976. Still one > of my favourites, that song. I missed Kate and Anna 2 years ago at > Glastonbury, so I was really happy to catch up now. I also really like > Rufus, especially after Kenny B's special introduction at Jonifest last > year! What a voice! I know some people don't like that voice, call it > whiney, but I think it's amazing - so unique! Martha was also a revelation. > She's really cocky and confident, a really natural performer with a good > voice, even if not as pure and special as Rufus's. > What I found so moving, over and beyond the great music, was seeing this > family function on stage. Mother, auntie, brother and sister, all excellent > musicians, singing each other's songs, hugging and patting each other, > quibbling over what key to play in, etc... I just thought: it's so good > that generations now can unite over music in a way I feel I can now also do > with my children, but in a way I never could with my parents, and I think > most of my generation could not do with the older generation in general. > Rufus also recounted how their grandma (my guess is that that was from the > Wainwright side, she must have been quite a commanding dame, which seems to > fit with my impression of the Wainwrights - I mean, if you give your sons > generational numbers, that's normally an indication isn't it?) would command > them to give family concerts on their Sunday visits to her! > Kate and Anna struck me as a bit subdued. Maybe they were a bit overwhelmed > with the enormous applause Rufus was getting - but in fact they seemed very > pleased with that, and very proud for him. But I hardly saw them smile. In > fact one of the first songs was one that Kate announced as "my most > depressing song ever" and it was just about the dreariness of daily life > after all passion is gone. > While Martha and Rupert often stood and moved along the stage, mum and > auntie sat down on a chair most of the time, apologising for the fact that > they were so unrehearsed - but the audience loved them anyway and why not? > They may have missed the lyrics of a few songs, but it was just great to see > such natural musicians play together - and as they kept jokingly repeating: > "This is really a club gig". > OK, that's my review for what it's worth. > > Oh I must add: Linda and Teddy Thompson (sp?) also joined for a guest song > each. I felt spoiled! > Lieve. > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > This message may contain privileged information. 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She is so much better than those dead do-nothing ones! - --Smurf, with JMDL goons at the door who're here to tell me that I have reached the daily posting limit "Everywhere I turn, I find that a poet has been there before me." --Sigmund Freud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:02:33 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc Em wrote: > you know what? I think they even "cut" the DeNiro penis scene (lol I'm > sure it had another name) from the version I saw in Germany around > 1980. Because I don't remember ever seeing DeNiro's dong and I think I > would remember it if I had. DeNiro is my favorite actor, and although I'm at least as gay as Em, I want to see DeNiro's dong too!! Wally wrote: > definitely anti-american! i think W, the other one, should do something > about it. > i say, we want de niro's schlong and we want it now! > *W*, advocating for the rights of americans. Sorry Wally, but that ain't gonna happen as long as Asscraft (thanks Kay, for that one!) is Attorney General. Dammit anyway. Lori, feeling deprived of DeNiro's dong ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:20:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc - --- Lori Fye wrote: > DeNiro is my favorite actor, and although I'm at least as gay as Em, > I want to > see DeNiro's dong too!! How 'bout we get the video and take it to Jonifest? Would that be allowed? Its long though...err, the movie I mean..its like a 6 hour deal. :) Em ===== .............. "I'm a wheel I'm a wheel, I can roll I can feel, and you can't stop me turning. I'm the sun I'm the sun I can move I can run, but you'll never stop me burning." ...rainbow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:23:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc in more affluent times, i would have made copies of my uncensored, *uncut* version of 1900 and sent them all over the world. since this isn't going to happen any time soon, i'll tell you about the scene. depardieu and de niro visit a prostitute (who happens to be epileptic, but that's an aside). they have a threesome. depardieu on the left, said prostitute in the middle, de niro on the right. she then proceeds to masturbate both men. as she strokes and stretches each dick (limp but kinda tumescent), you can do your mental math and from-limp-to-hard extrapolations (maybe you need to be a gay man to master this particular branch of inductive reasoning) and arrive at the very safe conclusion that dear robert is in the 8+ group. oh my, i got all worked up now and i have to teach a class in 10 minutes. oh well, blame it on lori and em. *W*, who acquired most of his constructive imagination skills in the locker room. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Lori > Fye > Enviado el: Jueves, 27 de Mayo de 2004 04:03 p.m. > Para: jonilist > CC: Wally Kairuz; Em > Asunto: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc > > > Em wrote: > > > you know what? I think they even "cut" the DeNiro penis scene (lol I'm > > sure it had another name) from the version I saw in Germany around > > 1980. Because I don't remember ever seeing DeNiro's dong and I think I > > would remember it if I had. > > DeNiro is my favorite actor, and although I'm at least as gay as > Em, I want to > see DeNiro's dong too!! > > Wally wrote: > > > definitely anti-american! i think W, the other one, should do something > > about it. > > i say, we want de niro's schlong and we want it now! > > *W*, advocating for the rights of americans. > > Sorry Wally, but that ain't gonna happen as long as Asscraft > (thanks Kay, for > that one!) is Attorney General. Dammit anyway. > > Lori, > feeling deprived of DeNiro's dong ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc I DO remember that scene! It was extraordinarily hot but gnarly as I recall. Disturbing in some way. All was not perfect. There was good but there was bad. But I don't remember the "members". Maybe I was unimpressed by 8 inches back then. Didn't something bad happen to the girl? Like she died or something? hmmm... see an I know gf will never watch this with me...so I may never see it again. oh well.. Em - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > depardieu and de niro visit a prostitute (who happens to be > epileptic, but > that's an aside). they have a threesome. depardieu on the left, said > prostitute in the middle, de niro on the right. she then proceeds to > masturbate both men. as she strokes and stretches each dick (limp but > kinda > tumescent), you can do your mental math and from-limp-to-hard > extrapolations > (maybe you need to be a gay man to master this particular branch of > inductive reasoning) and arrive at the very safe conclusion that dear > robert > is in the 8+ group. > oh my, i got all worked up now and i have to teach a class in 10 > minutes. oh > well, blame it on lori and em. > *W*, who acquired most of his constructive imagination skills in the > locker > room. > > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > Lori > > Fye > > Enviado el: Jueves, 27 de Mayo de 2004 04:03 p.m. > > Para: jonilist > > CC: Wally Kairuz; Em > > Asunto: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc > > > > > > Em wrote: > > > > > you know what? I think they even "cut" the DeNiro penis scene > (lol I'm > > > sure it had another name) from the version I saw in Germany > around > > > 1980. Because I don't remember ever seeing DeNiro's dong and I > think I > > > would remember it if I had. > > > > DeNiro is my favorite actor, and although I'm at least as gay as > > Em, I want to > > see DeNiro's dong too!! > > > > Wally wrote: > > > > > definitely anti-american! i think W, the other one, should do > something > > > about it. > > > i say, we want de niro's schlong and we want it now! > > > *W*, advocating for the rights of americans. > > > > Sorry Wally, but that ain't gonna happen as long as Asscraft > > (thanks Kay, for > > that one!) is Attorney General. Dammit anyway. > > > > Lori, > > feeling deprived of DeNiro's dong > > > > ===== .............. "I'm a wheel I'm a wheel, I can roll I can feel, and you can't stop me turning. I'm the sun I'm the sun I can move I can run, but you'll never stop me burning." ...rainbow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:28:32 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc Em asked: > How 'bout we get the video and take it to Jonifest? Would that be > allowed? Its long though...err, the movie I mean..its like a 6 hour > deal. Sure, why not? I think there's a VCR in the "lez" cabin (of all places)! Wally complained: > oh my, i got all worked up now and i have to teach a class in 10 minutes. oh > well, blame it on lori and em. Of course. Blame it on the dykes!! ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:22:02 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc oh yes! now i know why i mentioned that the girl was epileptic (freud explains...). she had a seizure and died while they were having sex. *W*, amazed that someone can forget about the 8 inches although i forgot about the seizure. i have to tell my analyst about this. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Em > Enviado el: Jueves, 27 de Mayo de 2004 04:28 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz; jonilist > Asunto: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc > > > I DO remember that scene! It was extraordinarily hot but gnarly as I > recall. Disturbing in some way. All was not perfect. There was good but > there was bad. But I don't remember the "members". Maybe I was > unimpressed by 8 inches back then. Didn't something bad happen to the > girl? Like she died or something? hmmm... > see an I know gf will never watch this with me...so I may never see it > again. oh well.. > Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:31:17 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc look what i found at www.imdb.com "Original uncut version is 5.5 hours long, and features pornographic sequences with Alfredo, Olmo, and Neve. It also featured prepubescent boys examining each other's erections, which would probably qualify as child pornography in the US." neve, the threesome girl, is played by one stefania casini. oh but to be her left hand!!!! *W*, call me neve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:53:52 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc Wally Kairuz wrote: >look what i found at www.imdb.com > >"Original uncut version is 5.5 hours long, and features pornographic >sequences with Alfredo, Olmo, and Neve. It also featured prepubescent boys >examining each other's erections, which would probably qualify as child >pornography in the US." > >neve, the threesome girl, is played by one stefania casini. oh but to be her >left hand!!!! > >*W*, call me neve > > > It was shown here on tv-uncut. doubt it would be now. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:17:10 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Laugh of the day... njc I've posted links to Nancy Banks-Smith's TV reviews a couple of times, as she is such a treasurable writer (and a few listers have commented favourably). This one is an absolute corker (or should that be porker?), despite my not having seen the programme under review. http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv_and_radio/story/0,3604,1225466,00.html Azeem in London, contemplating his imminent switch to a new ISP after 7 years on AOHell - and not without some regret. It's such a wonderfully easy email addy, anyone can remember it, and now I'll have some horrible Pipex one that nobody will remember. Still, can't sniffle at taking my custom away from Megabucks Inc, who despite (or because of) their immense power, refuse to provide a competitively priced broad band service. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 18:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Thorogood NJC "According to some sources the Destroyers played quite often like the Houserockers, without a bass player. In 1974 they recorded some demos in Boston, which were later released in 1979 as an MCA rip-off-album called "Better Than The Rest." " Just read this on the 'net about this old piece of gorgeous unscratchy undistorted vinyl I was spinning last evening. And its amazing because I was thinking to myself last evening that its very nearly perfect rock and roll - to me. some cuts verge a bit to the bluesy to be perfect rock..but the ones that don't are perfectly crafted little hot-rod like rock and roll tracks. And that the pressing is very EXCELLENT. I absolutely am not left w/the feeling that I would rather have a CD. It plays warm and tight. The album cover art - yes, IS truly a militaristic airbrush abomination ..but the album, to me, is like..the best. It doesn't sound like a demo; its very cleanly recorded tho stripped down. None of that echoey demo stuff..its right in yer face. Yeah! reminds me of the real early 2-track Chuck Berry stuff. Perfect. GT does the perfect "Nadine". Anybody know this album?? I'm not all that fond of GT's "hits" -they are amusing but do not really float my boat. Was just wondering if, by any chance anyone can relate? Anyone know this album I'm referring to? I like his folkish stuff..like "John Hardy". (tho thats not on this album) sheesh........ everything I like, some guy comes along and dumps on it..... whatta world, whatta world. Em < Subject: Re: New compilation CD / geffen box --- Ron wrote: > hi >> i generally buy from village records, who offer the > (illegal) perk of not > only underdeclaring the value of the parcel, but > also mark it as a gift. > > the result - i save the around 30% duty, plus 14% > vat which we pay on > imports :-) > > &btw - they do have the geffen box set there for > $59.99. not that i ever > plan to buy it unless hell sends me the money when > she wins the lotto to pay > for her trip to jonifest............. I'm with you on the Geffen box set. I don't want it badly enough. I am intrigued by the "gift" thing though. I don't understand how MY country can charge me tax (two kinds of tax) on something I purchase from or in another country. I'm on the verge of writing a Canadian election/political rant to keep up with the Americans and to bore the shit out of the rest of the world, I am THAT fed up with the BS going down here in this country. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:25:32 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Thorogood NJC **Anybody know this album?? I'm not all that fond of GT's "hits" -they are amusing but do not really float my boat. I've heard OF it, Em - but have not heard it. But I DO love that early GT stuff, I had his first couple of records on Rounder, great bar band rock & blues. I saw him at Memorial Hall in Chapel Hill and he rocked the joint - he was thorough & good! As I recall I had a few kobeers that night too. And I love his saying "No point in writing songs...all the good have already been written!" Bob NP: Laura Nyro, "Louise's Church" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: 1900 (NJC)/flicks sc --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > oh yes! now i know why i mentioned that the girl was > epileptic (freud > explains...). she had a seizure and died while they > were having sex. > > *W*, amazed that someone can forget about the 8 > inches although i forgot > about the seizure. i have to tell my analyst about > this. Hmm. You're a guy. Gay or straight, doesn't matter. You're a guy. Long dick? Chick dies? What's a guy going to remember? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Free Joni covers Mania! --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Also stumbled on these covers today - enjoy! > Volume # 53 is right around the corner... > > http://ryanw.dmusic.com/ (People's Parties) > > http://stars.wustl.edu/~gwilliams/ (A Case Of You) > > http://www.oel-uno.dk/download.htm (A Case of You) > > They're all pretty darn good too - sweet! > > (If somebody can figure out how to capture that > first one so it can be burned > I would be most grateful!) > Go to the orange button. It's a download button. Right-click and "save target as." It worked for me. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:26:15 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Joni Mitchell Show at American Conservatory Theatre in SF This is from a friend of mine who works at ACT (a repertory theater in SF). I don't know much about it other than what is on the web page, but I will be going! Mike - ----------------------------------- http://act-sf.org/index.cfm?s_id=&pid=tkt_zeu_jon This link has a nice photo of Mitchell I've not seen before. http://act-sf.org/index.cfm?s_id=&pid=tkt_zeu_jon And finally a press release describing the show: For Immediate Release A.C.T. Young Conservatory Presents World Premiere Musical Theater Piece Ladies of the Canyon: The Music of Joni Mitchell World Premiere Musical Theater Piece at Zeum Theater June 419 SAN FRANCISCO, CA, April 30, 2004  American Conservatory Theaters Young Conservatory (YC) presents Ladies of the Canyon: The Music of Joni Mitchell, created and directed by YC Director Craig Slaight, with musical direction by Krista Wigle and musical arrangements by Naomi Sanchez. This world premiere production will open June 5 at 7:30 p.m. and run through June 19, with two preview performances June 4 at 7:30 p.m. and June 5 at 2 p.m. All performances will be held at Zeum Theater at Yerba Buena Gardens, located at the corner of Fourth and Howard streets in San Francisco (parking is available at the Fifth and Mission garage). Tickets are $7.50$15, and are available by calling 415.749.2228, online at www.act-sf.org, or at the door. Ladies of the Canyon features an all-female cast performing 24 classic Joni Mitchell songs, including Both Sides Now, Big Yellow Taxi, Help Me, Woodstock, Free Man in Paris, and The Circle Game. Singing solo and in full ensemble, the cast will address some of Mitchells most emotionally complex work. The piece contains no spoken text, and each song constitutes its own dramatic scene. "I was drawn to Joni Mitchell by her immense skills as a musician and poet, says Slaight. She takes her listeners on a youthful journey of exploration and reflection, all the while infusing her songs with an intense, compact emotional life. Her music is universal, ageless, and the perfect source for dramatic interpretation. Slaight and Wigle developed Ladies of the Canyon with special permission from Joni Mitchell as part of the YCs New Plays Program. This program has focused on creating theatrical explorations of the works of contemporary composers with the goal of creating pieces that look at the world through youthful eyes. Prior works created for this series include Dangling Conversations: The Music of Simon and Garfunkel and last seasons Forever Young: The Music of Bob Dylan, which was staged at Zeum Theater and at Londons prestigious National Theatre. Joni Mitchell has remained at the forefront of singer/songwriters since the 1960s. Born in Fort Macleod, Alberta, Canada, she taught herself the guitar and became a favorite on the regional folk scene. After marrying Chuck Mitchell in 1965, Mitchell moved to Detroit, Michigan. There her marriage soon fell apart, but her career took a giant leap forward, taking her to New York City and the top of the Greenwich Village folk scene, along with her contemporary, Bob Dylan. In 1967 she recorded her self-titled debut album, produced by David Crosby of Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. She followed this up with Clouds, Ladies of the Canyon, and her landmark album Blue. Commercial success eluded her until the 1970s when she recorded her first hit single, You Turn Me On, Im a Radio. A string of successful albums followed, including Court and Spark, Miles of Aisles, The Hissing of Summer Lawns, and Hejira, considered by many to be her masterpiece. The next stage in her career found Mitchell developing a style that included not only folk but also jazz, rock, and world music. While many fans disapproved of her migration away from her folk roots, she won a new generation of admirers with her 1994 GRAMMY.-winning album, Turbulent Indigo. Mitchell has won a total of five GRAMMY. awards, was the recipient of the 2002 Recording Academy. Lifetime Achievement and the Billboard Century awards, and is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. A multi-talented artist, Mitchell has focused increasingly in recent years on her painting. The ensemble of Ladies of the Canyon features both seasoned Young Conservatory performers and those making their Zeum Theater debut. The cast includes Dillan Arrick of San Francisco, a freshman at San Francisco University High School; Adde Bigelow of San Francisco, a junior at French American International High School; Hannah Finnie of Berkeley, a sophomore in the Berkeley Independent Studies program; Lucia Grahamjones of Berkeley, a junior at Berkeley High School; Sarah Grandin of San Francisco, a sophomore at San Francisco University High School; Emily Iscoff-Daigian of San Francisco, a junior at The Urban School; Scout Katovich of Oakland, a freshman at College Preparatory School; Julia Mattison of San Francisco, a freshman at San Francisco University High School; Rachel Rubenstein of San Francisco, a sophomore at Lick-Wilmerding High School; and Charlotte Ubben of San Francisco, a freshman at Drew College Preparatory School. The set design is by Dean Shibuya; the lighting design is by A.C.T. Lighting Design Associate Kimberly J. Scott. Charles Filipov is the assistant director. The A.C.T. Young Conservatory offers a broad range of theater training for young people aged 8 to 19. The four sessions offered throughout the year are designed to develop talent and creativity, as well as communication and cooperation skills for young people with all levels of theater background. Working professional actors and directors lead students in a spectrum of classes, including acting, directing, voice and speech, musical theater, audition, and improvisation. Call 415.439.2444 for applications and information. A.C.T.s second stage at Zeum Theater, a venue distinct from the Geary Theater, is dedicated to the development of new works, new forms, and new artists. A.C.T.@Zeum was launched in October 2001 with the A.C.T. Master of Fine Arts (M.F.A.) Programs first-ever staging of Marc Blitzsteins No for an Answer, directed by A.C.T. Artistic Director Carey Perloff. This unprecedented community partnership gives A.C.T. an additional stage for readings, workshops, rehearsals, and other aspects of new play and production development and is the current home for the Young Conservatory New Plays Program. PHOTO EDITORS, PLEASE NOTE: New images of Joni Mitchell are now available on the A.C.T. Web site, www.act-sf.org. Thank you. CALENDAR EDITORS PLEASE NOTE: THE A.C.T. YOUNG CONSERVATORY PRESENTS Ladies of the Canyon: The Music of Joni Mitchell Created and directed by Craig Slaight Musical direction by Krista Wigle Music adaptation by Naomi Sanchez Previews: June 4 at 7:30 p.m. and June 5 at 2 p.m. Opening: June 5 at 7:30 p.m. Performances: June 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16, 17, 18, and 19 at 7:30 p.m. June 6, 12, 13, and 19 at 2 p.m. Audience exchange to follow all matinees. Location: Zeum Theater at Yerba Buena Gardens, at the corner of Howard and Fourth streets. (Parking is available at the Fifth and Mission garage.) Tickets: $15 general admission; $12 A.C.T. subscribers; $10 students, full-time teachers, and seniors, with valid ID; $7.50 for student rush tickets, available at the door on the night of the performance. Tickets can be purchased in advance through the Geary Theater Box Office, 405 Geary Street, 415.749.2228, or online at www.act-sf.org (no discounts available online). Cash-only tickets can also be purchased at the door on the night of the performance. CONTACT: Scott Walton (415) 439-2362; swalton@act-sf.org Jon Wolanske (415) 439-2418; jwolanske@act-sf.org ==================================================== "Heart and humor, and humility, he said, will lighten up your heavy load." - --Joni Mitchell, 'Refuge of the Roads,' from "Hejira", 1976 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #243 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)