From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #235 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, May 21 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 235 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: butterflies and lilac sprays [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: Butterflies and lilac sprays [Catherine McKay ] Re: butterflies and lilac sprays [Smurfycopy@aol.com] The Way the Music Died -vljc ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: butterflies and lilac sprays njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: third party, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: dreams, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: The Man from U.N.C.L.E NJC ["hell" ] BSN, International Smash [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Today's Library Links: May 21 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] RE: third party, NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni at the movies fantasy ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:43:11 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: butterflies and lilac sprays Sorry for the lack of Joni content in my last post, Joni people. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:57:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Butterflies and lilac sprays Wow, Jamie - this is a really great take on it! Once again, in Joni's words, "never mind what it means to me - what does it mean to you?" Yet one more reason why Joni is an artist you can discuss for a looonng time and never get tired of it. --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > I have loved reading the replies to this thread, > just wonderful, wonderful. Here's my take... > ... So to me, when she 'get these notes > on butterflies' - she's being haunted by another > ghost - that of a missing lover. So when pretty > butterflies come and float by, or girls pass by and > leave her gifts, she feels that thay are all > 'conspiring' (for the lack of a better word) to tell > her something else ('They saw you... somewhere' > possibly meaning that they saw him for *a reason*). > Joni is reading too much into nature and well > meaning girls, and it isn't good news. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:03:02 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: butterflies and lilac sprays Ever one to keep the level of discourse elevated, McKay barks: << Ha. That goes to show how much YOU know. >> Catherine dear, the fact that you live with two teenagers is beginning to show. - --Mrs. Eleanor Rigby Beckham Depp-Pitt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:06:49 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: The Way the Music Died -vljc I just saw a clip on PBS for next week's Frontline - "The Way the Music Died." Neil was playing "It's better to burn out, than to fade away (hey hey my my)" Crosby and some others were talking about the wrong direction the music biz has/is headed. Maybe we'll get to hear some Joni gripes on this show? We can only hope! "The modern music scene was created in 1969, at Woodstock. A half million fans, dozens of artists, and the politics of the times came together for a "big bang" moment that eventually would generate billions of dollars. But, over the last 20 years, MTV, compact discs, corporate consolidation, Internet piracy, and greed have contributed to a perfect storm for the recording industry. This program examines how the business that has provided the soundtrack of the lives of a generation is on the verge of collapse." Mia npimh - "Embryonic Journey" - Airplane (stuck in my head from Friends) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: butterflies and lilac sprays njc --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > Ever one to keep the level of discourse elevated, > McKay barks: > > << Ha. That goes to show how much YOU know. >> > > > Catherine dear, the fact that you live with two > teenagers is beginning to > show. > > --Mrs. Eleanor Rigby Beckham Depp-Pitt Teenagers are great. They keep me young. Ger than you. My daughter decorates all of her letters and cards to people. It's a young-girl thing. But none of that store-bought fancy-shmancy stationery! And I'm not barking any more, thanks to the wonder drug known as Ketek (love that word - you can say it all with clicking noises - sounds like it was invented by bugs, or Klingons.) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:47:48 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni at the movies fantasy, NJC Brian wrote: Shrek 2 is coming out, here is my fantasy Shrek is visiting the Ye Village Pub orders a beer from the Ugly Stepsister bartender. Then a Blond two headed Ogre steps out on stage and starts singing Twisted ! then after that she goes out to the audience and has a couple of smokes with different smitten men, she gets back on stage and starts singing with each head looking at a different guy Both Sides Now ! The back up band D lahm on the piano would be the "Fox" from Pinocchio M Paz on Bass would be Woody the Wood Pecker Lead Guitar Kate Bennett would be "Ariel" (Disney Mermaid) The Announcer SC Joni Guy "Schroeder" the Pianist from Peanuts I hope no one was offended by this fantasy. Hi Brian! I would like to see this acted out at the fest. Can you arrange it? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:03:54 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Butterflies and Lilac Sprays Kate wrote: "I was just wondering if anyone could throw any light on this mystifying lyric! "I get these notes on butterflies and lilac sprays, from girls who just have to tell me they saw you somewhere". Hi Kate, I'm reading this from the digest archives, so maybe someone else here has mentioned this. But what I see in the song is that the "lilac sprays" are bouquets of flowers and the "butterflies" are those plastic note holders that you stick in the bouquet. I see Joni sharing a room with another guy (James Taylor?) and answering the door to pick up the flowers that are being delivered. Only the flowers are not for her....instead, they are for her roomie, and when she reads the little note attached to the butterfly, she discovers that the flowers came from other women. Just my take anyway. Mia _________________________________________________________________ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:07:38 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: third party, NJC Kate Bennett wrote: i want a third party but not nader... Hi Kate, When you start one, I'll be the first to support it, okay? I'll support it double if it gives us a woman candidate other than Chelsea's mom and is not controlled by big business. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:23:30 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: dreams, NJC Kate Bennett wrote: we can vote about dreams when we get rid of the fascist government... first things first... Hi Kate! This has got me laughing because it brings me right back to John Lennon... Dreams: You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you will join us, And the world will be as one If everybody voted dreams, we would be rid of the fascist government. But, hopefully it will be ousted anyway if people vote fears. Fascism: Ev'rybody's talking about Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m. All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance John is cool, but he isn't my favorite Beatle... he's Robert's though. Mine is George. George was living the dream. I'm not trying to promote Nader. I'm not sold on Nader. I haven't decided who to vote for in November. There is only one thing I'm sure of... I'm not going to vote for Bush. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:43:38 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: The Man from U.N.C.L.E NJC Azeem wrote: > And my most enduring passion is for the unimpeachably stunning Amanda > Donohoe. I first saw her, not in her notorious kit-off film debut, Castaway, but in > a TV spy series called Game Set & Match, playing opposite Ian Holm. It was > love at first sight. And Ian Holm also got to canoodle with the very sexy Mel > Martin in that. Bastard. Yes, I agree Amanda Donohoe is very cool - she was also in LA Law for a while. She had an "interesting" scene with Michelle Greene (who played Abby) from memory - now, I wonder why I'd remember that ;o)! > Azeem in London > NP: England v New Zealand - finally some test cricket on terrestrial TV! > Your boys have made a good start, Hell! Yeah, they haven't done too badly for the first day - and at Lords, no less! I'm not getting too over-excited though. There's plenty of time (4 more days in fact) for them to fall over in a screaming heap! Hell - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 01:41:15 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: BSN, International Smash Well, sort of. With the release of the Love Actually DVD (I know, I know, many of you hated that movie and hated BSN for that matter), Both Sides Now has been selling in the 100s-300s for about a month now on Amazon.com, USA and UK. Today's trivia, FYI. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 02:04:39 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: May 21 On May 21 the following articles were published: 1998: "Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Joni Mitchell" - CitySearch website (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=69 1998: "Dylan & Company Full of Surprises" - Reuters/Variety (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=250 1998: "Dylan's Time to Shine" - San Francisco Chronicle (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=328 1998: "Picking the guitarists who really know how to pick" - San Diego Union-Tribune (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=323 1998: "Robert Holliston's Response" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=292 1998: "Still Rockin' Steady" - Los Angeles Times (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=146 1999: "New Joni Mitchell Set A Standard Affair" - Billboard (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=438 2000: "Chastain Park Amphitheater" - Ink19 (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=702 2002: "A Tuesday in Amsterdam" - CountingCrows.com (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=853 2002: "Chelsea Clinton Visits Namesake" - AP Online (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=973 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:07:48 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: third party, NJC I won't be starting it but I agree it needs a woman candidate. kay? > Hi Kate, When you start one, I'll be the first to support it, okay? I'll support it double if it gives us a woman candidate other than Chelsea's mom and is not controlled by big business. Love, Laura< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:44:09 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni at the movies fantasy >Shrek 2 is coming out, here is my fantasy... The back up band D lahm on the piano would be the "Fox" from Pinocchio M Paz on Bass would be Woody the Wood Pecker Lead Guitar Kate Bennett would be "Ariel" (Disney Mermaid) The Announcer SC Joni Guy "Schroeder" the Pianist from Peanuts< LOL... I am flattered to be ariel but the band is in trouble if I am playing lead! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #235 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)