From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #209 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 6 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 209 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Complete Geffen on Headphones, jonicheese [Em ] Re: iTunes conundrum/tech/ NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list and "The Beau-ey" -- NJC [Catherine McKa] Complete Geffen on Headphones ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: joni at the deli -- joni content! [Catherine McKay ] Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: iTunes conundrum/tech/ NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni Mitchell Songbook [Catherine McKay ] RE: Demise of the Joni-Only list - njc, i guess ["patrick leader" ] meeting patty griffin * impossible dream tour NJC [magsnbrei ] Re: meeting patty griffin * impossible dream tour NJC [frasere@intergate.] kakki njc ["tantra_apso" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 18:33:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Complete Geffen on Headphones, jonicheese - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > Here's a poser - what cheese is Joni's music like? OK Jamie I will play.. to me, I would say Joni's music and art (in general) is like a piece of jarlsberg that was left out on a wood block in the fridge for like a week, and now is a *bit* dried out and might just have a little green stuff. But ya take a knife and cut a funky chunk from the edge anyway, throwing caution to the wind!..and it is so darn GOOD!!!!!!!!!! soulful, with texture, and you even gotta gnaw on it a bit. If you partake of it the wrong way it will make your gums burn too. :) Em < Subject: Re: iTunes conundrum/tech/ NJC They only play on ipod? I'm not sure about that-but I did read an article about how the various download sites are not compatible with each other. If so, that sucks. On the other hand, you could buy a $250 ipod to play your 99 cent track. RR Em wrote: > OK I bought my first song from iTunes today. We got a new 'puter at > work that can run the version of iTunes that can access the iTunes > "store". So I created my account, found my song and downloaded it. > Played fine on the iTunes player at work. But it is an ".m4p" file - > not an .mp3. Whats up with that? Anybody have a clue for me?? > So anyway, I emailed the file to myself here at home..and none of my > players, quicktime, iTunes or Audion - nothing will touch this ".m4p" > file. > So I am snorting with indignation! > well its like the kid, Ingmar, in "My Life As a Dog" says..."you've GOT > to compare". > Could be like Leica the space dog, doomed to die stranded in space. > Could have a sadistic little cigarette smoking american a__hole > soldier-girl laughing at me and forcing me to "abuse" my own body > against my will while I am a war prisoner... > could be ALOT worse things than having purchased a 99 cent song file > and having it not play on my somewhat elderly but usually very > functional "iTunes". > Anybody got a clue for me? > Thanks! > :) > Em > > ===== > ........... > "thats just the scale; the fish come later". > ;) > Norman Blake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list and "The Beau-ey" -- NJC The evil boy genius (once known as the dearly missed and sadly departed Birthday Fairy - alas, poor Faerie, I knew him/her/it well) now known as naught but the be-asterisked letter ***W*** cackles: > << how come catherine hasn't written anything > terribly insulting yet? > cath, don't disappoint me... >> The goading goat Smurf, in a spate of bureaucrat-baiting, spits back: > Haven't you noticed? She's a night writer. She > spends her days pretending to > work for Canadian taxpayers. To which, the beleaguered bureacrat, now forced out of self-imposed semi-exile, responds: Behave yourselves, Beau-ys, or I'll cut yiz out of my will. I will have no Ed-bashing! Ed has provided me with valuable guitar advice, including much-needed information on how to deal with the dreaded broken G-string!!! (Oh, I hear the cackling even now, you vile creatures - is nothing sacred!) I never forget a kindness... as I never forget a slight. Mr Murphy, you jealous fiend! I'll have you know I work VERY hard for the Canadian taxpayer. Very hard indeed. The fact that nothing comes of all my work is no fault of my own. It's the fault of someone higher up than me. I push the paper through, and they just let it pile up, somewhere, up there. Oh yes, I'm a night writer all right. Now that I've taken on a second job, as vampire slayer, it fills in the weary hours between the end of my government drone job and the beginning of the Dead of Night. Now excuse me, but I have some stakes to sharpen and some garlic necklaces to string... Girded with the letters N, J and C, I bid you all, bonsoir. NP Cats snoring and making little growly sounds. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:01:36 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Complete Geffen on Headphones Jamie Zoob >But I have loads of other musicians on my iTunes and the quality just isn't the same... I dunno, we have talented musicians on this list - Kate, Owen... is it a matter of just playing and writing and playing and writing and composing lots and not worry about it, even if it's sh!t, until you hit on gold< I'm not sure if I understand your question but it sounds like you are referring to the recording & arranging, not necessarily the songwriting itself... If I'm missing the point, please ask again! Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni at the deli -- joni content! --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > "Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell seen at the deli at > Beverly Glen and > Mulholland." > > From << > http://www.ent-today.com/potpourri/apr04/p043004_mt.htm >> This guy could use a good editor: "Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell seen at the deli at Beverly Glen and Mulholland... After more than a decade of decline, felony drunk-driving arrests and alcohol-related injuries and deaths..." Now we know why Joni hasn't come out with any original songs recently. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: did anyone post this Australian News article already? now njc i guess --- Richard Flynn wrote: > Some Joni content of. perhaps, dubious value: > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/26/1082831481811.html Arrgh. It held such promise in the first couple of paragraphs. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now fortified with Joni content --- o wrote: > Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... > Incidentally in Mojo about > 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of > Joni was about to be > released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing > and hejira and some > DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always > wondered why not. Anyway, > a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a > miracle! > o > > www.owenduff.co.uk That sounds like it could be the Philly Spectrum show. That would be nice if they could get good master copies of that and remove the hiss. That is one that I have copies of and despite some of the flaws, it really is a good show. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now fortified with Joni content --- o wrote: > Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... > Incidentally in Mojo about > 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of > Joni was about to be > released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing > and hejira and some > DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always > wondered why not. Anyway, > a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a > miracle! > o > > www.owenduff.co.uk That sounds like it could be the Philly Spectrum show. That would be nice if they could get good master copies of that and remove the hiss. That is one that I have copies of and despite some of the flaws, it really is a good show. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject:--Breaking Nyronews!!! Now fortified with Joni content --- o wrote: > Fantastic! I hope the recording isn't too bad... > Incidentally in Mojo about > 6 years ago it was reported that a live album of > Joni was about to be > released from the '76 tour, with songs from hissing > and hejira and some > DJRD - obviously it never materialised... I always > wondered why not. Anyway, > a Nyro recording from this era is gonna be a > miracle! > o > > www.owenduff.co.uk That sounds like it could be the Philly Spectrum show. That would be nice if they could get good master copies of that and remove the hiss. That is one that I have copies of and despite some of the flaws, it really is a good show. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:20:36 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: FW: a female vet's thoughts on the iraqi torture scandal - njc i thought lori would appreciate this viewpoint. one of the interesting things to me was her comment about disrespect for the commander-in-chief. debra dickerson was completely liberal when she served, yet she made certain never to disparage ghw bush, as she had sworn an oath. she never saw outspoken disrespect from gi's until the clinton era, and whether you think it's right or not, it's a court martial offence. and yet there was plenty of it. i'd be interested in people's thoughts on this. "the child is so sweet, and the girls are so rapturous. isn't it lovely how artists can capture us?" 'children and art', from sondheim's 'sunday in the park with george' np - a comparative piano show on the radio http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_05/003840.php for lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Complete Geffen on Headphones, jonicheese now njc for the sake of some people's sanity but not mine Em, this is mind-bogglingly battily brilliant! I almost choked on my cheddar - but I was eatin' Edam! For some reason that has nothing to do with Joni or cheese, it brings to mind the following poem-like thing a friend of mine used to say... Laugh, I thought I'd die Die, I thought they'd bury me Bury me they did But sand tickles Laugh, I thought I'd die --- Em wrote: > --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > > Here's a poser - what cheese is Joni's music like? > > OK Jamie I will play.. to me, I would say Joni's > music and art (in > general) is like a piece of jarlsberg that was left > out on a wood block > in the fridge for like a week, and now is a *bit* > dried out and might > just have a little green stuff. But ya take a knife > and cut a funky > chunk from the edge anyway, throwing caution to the > wind!..and it is so > darn GOOD!!!!!!!!!! soulful, with texture, and you > even gotta gnaw on > it a bit. If you partake of it the wrong way it will > make your gums > burn too. > :) > Em < my father likes it > too. Wondering if its a genetic thing; an ancestral > memory from our > ancient Iberian pastoral past > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:35:58 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni Mitchell Songbook My husband and I were sorting through an attic full of old boxes, some unopened since 1986. All my husband's stuff - he was a ramblin' guy and never seemed to unpack every time he moved. Any way, in one of the boxes, we found Joni Mitchell Songbook Complete, Volume 1. It has the music for the first three albums and a bunch of art work, mostly from her Magic Marker period. I used to have this book, but don't know what I did with it, so it was a real treat to find it again. And I was so proud of my husband to have owned this book, all by himself! I thought he just tolerated Joni out of love for me. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:40:05 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list NJC **Or perhaps I misunderstand how it works. If it works the way I think it does, we just need another NJC reminder to keep Ed & other onlies happy, right?** Theoretically, Richard...but it's a constant struggle. I've done the only-Joni thing and 25% or more posts are NJC but not desgnated as such. Then you try and play policeman which just pisses people off, so you really can't win. The worst habit is a thread that starts out with Joni content but turns into NJC, and also the people who don't enter a subject line at all so it just reads whatever the digest number is. I can understand Ed's frustration. Ed, if you gotta go, consider signing back on after the election. Perhaps the political stuff will chill after that and there will be fewer unmarked posts that slip through the cracks. Bob NP: Radiohead, "I Might Be Wrong" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:42:20 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: iTunes conundrum/tech/ NJC I downloaded a couple of songs on itunes...supposedly you can burn them to a disc, but for the life of me I haven't figured out how. The instructions on the itunes website are well-hidden, if there at all. If I can't transfer a download to a disc, it's of no value to me. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Songbook Deb, what a cool story. I have that book, and volume 2 too. A long time ago, I had an original Joni Mitchell songbook that had the songs from "Song to a seagull" and "Clouds" in it, along with some of her never-recorded songs, like "Jeremy", "Strawflower Me" and so on. My sister lent it to someone when we were in highschool and I never saw it again. About a year ago, I bought a copy through E-Bay and it's great having it back again, even if the guitar chords aren't in Joni tunings and even if the piano arrangements (which I once thought were great) turn out to be not-so-great after all. --- Deb Messling wrote: > My husband and I were sorting through an attic full > of old boxes, some > unopened since 1986. All my husband's stuff - he > was a ramblin' guy and > never seemed to unpack every time he moved. Any > way, in one of the boxes, > we found Joni Mitchell Songbook Complete, Volume 1. > It has the music for > the first three albums and a bunch of art work, > mostly from her Magic > Marker period. I used to have this book, but don't > know what I did with > it, so it was a real treat to find it again. And I > was so proud of my > husband to have owned this book, all by himself! I > thought he just > tolerated Joni out of love for me. > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > messling@enter.net > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 23:20:57 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Demise of the Joni-Only list - njc, i guess dear ed: i think some people were having fun at your expense after your big sign-off, that you may not have deserved. we have seen too many posts from people complaining about the lack of joni content from people who rarely post. it does get irritating. it occurs to me that you didn't see much of the funnin'. as it was all marked njc. still, i just went and looked at some of the only-joni digests. in v2004n126, there were a couple of posts from bob muller with the subject Re: 4 May 1970 =?ISO-8859-1?B?oE5KQw==?= , which is certainly not how the individual posts appeared. i'm pretty sure they were marked njc. bob is one of the most conscientious people here. les, is something stripping out parts of the subjects of joni-only posts? on the other hand, it does appear that both kate and mags, two of my favorite posters, have neglected the njc tag on nonjoni posts in the last 24 hours. still, i looked through my deleted email tonight and it's all very carefully marked. i don't know the answer. patrick np - silence "the child is so sweet, and the girls are so rapturous. isn't it lovely how artists can capture us?" 'children and art', from sondheim's 'sunday in the park with george' >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Ed >Beauchamp >Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:46 PM >To: Lori Fye >Cc: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Demise of the Joni-Only list > > >Hi Lori, > >Thanks for replying. Sorry, I can see I wasn't as >clear as I'd intended to be. > >The Joni-only digest I referred to had only one >Joni-related post, but many non-Joni posts. What I was >lamenting was the fact that this has become a real >trend lately (you might not realize this, as I suspect >you're not a Joni-only). It's getting more difficult >to wade though this socio-political stuff to get to >the Joni content - which is what I subscribed to the >Joni-only list for in the first place. See what I >mean? > >Even as a lurker, this list once had incredible value >to me - I've learned so much from it because you all >know so much more than I do about Joni. My >appreciation for her has grown tremendously as a >result. Sure, I could start a thread, as you >suggested, and that might add more Joni content, but >it wouldn't reduce the non-Joni content, and isn't >that the real problem? > >So, my point is simply that the Joni-only list is no >longer Joni-only. The non-Joni posts seem to be >outnumbering and overpowering the Joni posts and I >just don't have the time to sort through all of the >extraneous stuff any more. > >Peace, >Ed > > >--- Lori Fye wrote: >> Ed lamented: >> >> > Joni-folks(?), >> > >> > Well, it appears that the "NJC" concept has >> finally >> > broken down completely. Todays Joni-only digest >> had >> > exactly ONE email that had anything to do with >> Joni. >> >> >> Um ... Ed? The surest way to read something about >> Joni is to START A THREAD. >> >> Sorry to see you go, >> Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 23:53:53 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Kurdistan, NJC dear laura: we may disagree on some other issues, but we're completely in agreement on this. i support the breaking up of iraq, and i support a free kurdistan. i'm pretty well-read about this issue, and understand the difficulties. it's kind of crazy; the neo-cons are saying 'if we can create a true arab democracy in the middle east, the other tyrannies will be threatened and will eventually fall' but they're speaking of the nation of iraq, an artificial construct carved out of the ottoman empire by the brits in 1920. and the neocons seem to have no idea of the things working against democracy in iraq. it was as recently as 2002 that bush was publicly unclear about the difference between a sunni and shi'ite. it's a huge assumption that he understands it now. and it's hard to see how this administration can sort out iraq if the chief exec doesn't even understand the basis of the strife. but by supporting the break-up of iraq, into kurdistan and two other entities, we could create an example of democracy in the middle east in kurdistan, almost immediately. the kurdish region has been a very successful quasi-republic for a while now. there's one huge inaccuracy in the article you posted that i want to address: the writer says: > >If anyone believes that no good came of deposing the old regime, he or she >should talk to the Kurds. For them, generations of oppression, >ethnic cleansing, >torture and massacre ended when Saddam's statue fell. that's either ignorant, or dishonest. the oppression, ethnic cleansing, torture and massacre ended for the kurds more than 10 years ago, after gulf war 1, when the no-fly zones were set up and enforced. we allowed the kurds to maintain their militias, and when saddam would send air assault against the kurdish region, american forces shot him out of the sky. and his ground forces were repelled by kurds. he has had no power in the kurdish region, no presence, for more than a decade. his minions would snipe from the border, and that's all they could do. someone (i hate to say it, but i think it was kakki, clueless and drooling hatred of clinton as usual) said 'what about clinton, bombing iraq throughout the '90s?' in enforcing the no-fly zone over the kurds, WE WERE THE GOOD GUYS. sure, the kurds are glad to see saddam gone, (he gassed them during and after the iran-iraq war, a horrific event of the last century) but their daily lives haven't changed drastically. their two quite-far-apart political parties have been able to work together for years now. lawlessness and warlordism are much reduced in kurdish territories (especially compared to afghanistan). the kurds have been our loyal allies, and they've refrained from agitating for a country of their own out of respect for the complexities of the issue. but does anyone believe that this administration, even now, understands how complex the middle east is? buck, do you believe the bushies really have the smarts to solve this? kakki? if anyone's really interested, there's much more out there on the kurds. the biggest issue against a free kurdistan is what to do with kirkuk. it should be in kurdistan, but there are a lot of forces working against that resolution as it's in the center of an oil-rich region. second biggest issue is maintaining a peaceful and stable border between a new kurdistan and turkey. turkey has a large kurd minority that it has treated pretty badly over the years, and turkey really really doesn't want a kurd republic on its border. more than most of you wanted to know, i suppose. patrick np - silence But with >hostile powers >on their borders, their future security depends on America's goodwill. As >terrorists campaign to drive the U.S. from the Middle East, the >Kurds are begging >for U.S. military bases on their territory. > >When American politicians of either party describe the Middle East they'd >like to see, they're describing the Kurdistan that already exists >-- in fact, if >not in law. Yet, coalition authorities in Baghdad devote their efforts to >holding a Frankenstein's monster of a country together -- just as >we and our >allies earlier tried to force Yugoslavia to remain whole -- while >ignoring what the >Kurds have already achieved. Instead of supporting our only >friends in Iraq, >we try to please implacable enemies by pouring billions of >taxpayer dollars >into cities whose people assassinate U.S. soldiers. > >An ironclad military rule is ''Don't reinforce failure. Reinforce >success.'' >In the attempted reconstruction of Iraq, our policy is just the opposite. > >Diplomats always have plenty of ''good'' reasons for doing the >wrong things. >Borders can't change; stability must be achieved; regional >sensibilities must >be taken into account -- the list of reasons why we cannot live up >to our own >professed ideals and support Kurdish self-determination is nearly >endless. But >a moment of truth is approaching: Either we support democracy, or >we don't. > >Why not hold a referendum? Why not let the Kurds decide their own future? > >The United States needs to be clear: America isn't failing the >rest of Iraq. >The Iraqis are failing themselves. The war to depose Saddam handed them an >opportunity no other power would have or could have given them. >If, despite the >U.S. investment of blood and treasure, Iraq's Arabs decide to >squander their >chance for a peaceful and prosperous future, there may be >painfully little the >United States can do about it. > >But where freedom, the rule of law and democracy already exist, the United >States should offer its support. There are three things the United >States can >and should do for the Kurds: guarantee their long-term security against >neighboring countries; ensure that they receive their fair share >of reconstruction aid >and Iraq's oil revenue; and, if the rest of Iraq pursues bloodshed and >destruction, support an independent Kurdish state. > >Kurdistan isn't Iraq. > >Go there and see. > >Ralph Peters is the author of "Beyond Baghdad: Postmodern War and Peace". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:58:24 -0700 (PDT) From: magsnbrei Subject: meeting patty griffin * impossible dream tour NJC Nikki, Brian and I went to see Patty Griffin at the Keswick in Glenside, PA this evening. Patty is incredible! I dont know what else to say other than she blew everyone's socks off with her presence and gifts of song writing, singing, piano playing !!.Has anyone seen her play piano before? I didnt know she could ! A night to remember for many reasons. Wonderful to share a concert like this with other jmdlers . after the concert, we went out to the back of the building and along with about a dozen or so others, waited for Patty to emerge. It was chilly and damp from the evening's monsoons, and we really didnt know if she was into meeting fans or signing anything. It felt a bit odd to do so, however, I was following in the footsteps of all of you Joni fans who have been so brave as to wait outside for a word or two, or just a glance. There were several security guards who didnt even need to say a word, they had us all glued to our spots, no one dared to move any closer. Finally, Patty walked through the door. She was on the other side of the guards, and then she looked over at us all standing there, and had a change of heart. She stepped around the guards and walked over to speak with us. She signed our CD covers and I had a few words with her. She's a lovely person and very gracious and sweet. Nikki spoke with her too. The concert itself began with Craig Ross, who produced her newest album. He also plays guitar on the CD as well as in the band. It was , how shall I say, interesting to hear him. I think he and the bass player performed for about a half an hour or so, then a fifteen minute intermission and then Patty. Glorious. She performed new songs as well as the familiar ones we love so well... Rain, Chief, Making Pies. The piano pieces were gorgeous. I'm speechless as to how to describe this . To see Patty in person, on stage and off, was an experience I won't soon forget. She's everything I had hoped for and more. Incredible talent. And very humble and quiet in person. Two shy clouds bumping together in the night .. I didnt know what to say to her but I did okay in the end ;-) It reminded me that if I ever did meet Joni face to face, I probably couldnt say a word. Too overwhelming. I'm really too tired to say anymore for now, just wanted to share this amazing evening with our friends. MagsnBrei&Nikki too ;-) ***** your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle everything i do is stitched with its colour. w.s.merwin Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:58:25 -0500 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: iTunes conundrum/tech/ NJC They are a different file format with "digital rights management" restrictions on it... that's how they were able to get the record labels to go along with the scheme. However, this is pretty easy to get around, as the iTunes application has built-in CD burning capability that's very easy to use. You can burn your tunes onto a CD and then you can play them anywhere and you can take the information on that CD and make yourself an MP3 file some other way anyhow. Randy Remote wrote: >They only play on ipod? >I'm not sure about that-but I did read an article about how >the various download sites are not compatible with each other. >If so, that sucks. On the other hand, you could buy a $250 >ipod to play your 99 cent track. >RR > >Em wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:33:01 -0700 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Re: meeting patty griffin * impossible dream tour NJC Quoting magsnbrei : She performed new songs as well as the familiar ones we love so > well... Rain, Chief, Making Pies. Hi Mags! Great review- Making Pies is my fave Patti Griffin song. She is absolutely an incredible songwriter. Patti, as our dear Joan, truly paints pictures with words. Wish I were able to experience her live. Thanks for the post. Best, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Ron Sexsmith- Retriever- another amazing songwriter! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 06:39:48 +0100 From: "tantra_apso" Subject: kakki njc Whether or not one agrees with Kakki's political point of view, it is neither honourable nor justified to take frequent swipes at her. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #209 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)