From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #194 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 27 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 194 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: JMDL Digest V2004 #192 ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #193 [BCM HUMAN RESOURCES] Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #192 [Catherine McKay ] Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC [Garret ] Joni in the new RS (or out of it as the case may be) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Katie Melua likes Joni...now NJC [Garret ] Re: soul, NJC [Susan Guzzi ] Re: soul, NJC ["tantra-apso" ] Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC [Smurfycopy@aol] Re: soul, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: soul, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC [Smurfycopy@aol] Re: soul, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: njc woman's complaint [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: njc woman's complaint [Em ] Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC [Garret ] Re: njc woman's complaint ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: njc woman's complaint ["tantra-apso" ] Re: njc woman's complaint ["tantra-apso" ] Beat of Black Wings ["Suzanne MarcAurele" ] Re: njc woman's complaint [Em ] I want to write to Joni Mitchell ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: [NortheastJonifest] RE: a BIG birthday wish for BIG Walt -- NJC ["Wal] Re: Dreamland [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Pro-Choice NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: njc woman's complaint [cul ] the homecoming. the haiku part 2 NJC ["Lucy Hone" ] Re: Joni in the new RS (or out of it as the case may be) [Randy Remote ] Re: njc woman's complaint ["tantra-apso" ] Re: Pro-Choice NJC ["tantra-apso" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:18:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2004 #192 i think somebody is trying to tell us something. w > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de BCM > HUMAN RESOURCES > Enviado el: Martes, 27 de Abril de 2004 12:01 a.m. > Para: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #192 > > > This user is no longer with Baylor College of Medicine. > > > Thanks, > Baylor College of Medicine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:44:07 -0500 (CDT) From: BCM HUMAN RESOURCES Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #193 This user is no longer with Baylor College of Medicine. Thanks, Baylor College of Medicine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:41:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2004 #192 --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Are you a loon, pal? How many times are you going to > send this e-mail to the list? > Every time i check my e-mail box i find this posted. > Enough is enough. > BCM HUMAN RESOURCES > wrote:This user is no longer with Baylor College of > Medicine. It's an automatic response. There's no real person sending it. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:49:41 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC << I think I'm about 832nd > in line for this, so it's popular! Fortunately I think > the library must have about 100 copies, so it may take > less than a year 'til I get it. >> > The book is being marketed to kids ("young adults") and adults, so it sorta > > has that Harry Potter thing happening with sales. > I got it for #4 in Borders (wondering if the pound sign will show up on-list). I always seem to forget about the library for some reason - i spend most of the fecking week in one, mind you! (in bitter student mode, hehe). > << I agree - definitely worth reading. You > start thinking like this guy after a while, and his > tics begin to make sense in their own strange way. >> > > Lots of the things he shouts end up being oddly profound or poetic, too. We watched a video in one of our classes last year about Tourette's syndrome (or disorder not sure which) and it was utterly heart breaking. The first man featured was an adult, surrounded by a fantastic group of people in Scotland and they all took it in their stride, and with a sense of humour, as he did. The section person featured was a young boy who had (or has) a very severe manifestion of TS. It charted the precipitation of the disorder and interviewed his family, himself, and showed footage from home-videos. At one point he said that he had this pressure in his head to scream and couldn't stop his body from rocking. He said that the pressure made his head feel the size of the room and that it was very painful and, at eight or nine years of age, that he wants to die. I found this very upsetting. Maybe i'll search the library for the book you mention. >It >made me realize that there's a very short distance >between what is normal behaviour and what could be >obsessive-compulsive behaviour or a tic of some kind. This kind of thinking has been gathering momentum for about thirty years in certain circles, particularly in relation to schizophrenia. It's something that psychologists are having to deal with more frequently, and has the feel of a moral-minefield about it. But i'll keep the rest of my "brain-power" this morning for an essay i'm writing, that is already far too long, very boring, and getting no closer to the masterpiece i want to produce, about the nature of memory in relation to different brain regions. GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:07:41 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: soul, NJC << when do you think a soul enters a body? >> Easy. The first time you hear Aretha, Sam Cooke, James Brown or Al Green. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:12:19 +0100 From: "tantra_apso" Subject: njc woman's complaint Over the years I ahve heard many women complain about men peeing evrywhere but into the bowl of a loo. This complaint is msot unfair and shows a lack of understanding of just how difficult it is for men to pee on target. unlike women, who just ahve sit down, men have a more difficult time of it. here is why: First of all, the morning pee. It is very difficult to aim an erevt penis at the bowl. It hurts if you try and push it down so the slit in the glans is pointing at the bowl. It is also not easy to pee anyway when the penis is hard. Problems are not confined just to the hard penis. oh no. The flaccid penis presents it's own problems. First all, it can get bent all out of shape. You can pull it out of your trousers, pint it directly at the bowl and hey presto the stream of urine hits the wall to the right or left, depending on which way the penis had folded itself. Even if it is not all folded, the slit may not be pointing where one thinks it is and thus pee gets on the floor or walls or even the seat of the toilet. Sometimes the slit doesn't open fully and you get a spray effect, rather like those hosepipes where you can turn the nozzle to either get a single stream of water or a spray effect like a shower. only we don't have such a nozzle attached to our peni, so we have to take pot luck. Then there is the added bonus of the uncircumsized penis. Even if the slit is pointing in the right direction, the foreskin may not be and the result is different each time. Maybe you will hit the bowl, maybe the wall, maybe the floor or even your leg. So why not roll back the foreskin before peeing? Seems to be a sensible thing to do. Trouble is it makes the trajectory of the urin stream even more unpredictable. It doesn't end with the end of the pee either. No. At the end of the pee, there comes the shake. Sometimes, a pee is over, and one shakes the penis, and low and behold another quarter pint comes out, just when you thought it was finished. Or the drops are pretty large and they splatter everywhere. You may even inadvertently blind yourself with this shaking lark. Again, the uncircumcised and un pulled back penis can present more of a problem as it can collect quite an amount of urine to fling about when one shakes. You see, a man's lot is not an easy one when it comes to peeing so please, ladies, nest time you are tempted to complain about a wet toilet seat or floof or wall, remeber how difficult it is for us. After all, you just have to sit and any fool can hit the bowl from there tho i concede it must be hard to shake your fanny. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:14:01 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni in the new RS (or out of it as the case may be) As you recall, last month Rolling Stone ran a "50 Immortals" special edition in which Joni was conspicuously absent. The selections were based on the collective votes of a panel of 55 people, only 2 of which were women. These kinds of lists always generate mail along the lines of "how could you leave out______________? A Steven Axelrod writes "To not include Joni Mitchell is an insult. She could have painted the portraits as well." A picture of Joni appears on the letters page, along with the editor's reply on how the selections were made, and further stating that Joni came in at number 60. Bob NP: Stan Ridgway, "God Sleeps In A Caboose" (Probably Stan's best yet) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:57:49 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Katie Melua likes Joni...now NJC > One of the great covers of Lilac Wine is by Jeff Buckley. Catch it if you > can. Oh yes, i **love** this! I might even say it rivals Nina in power and feeling. My appreciation of Jeff Buckley has grown and grown and grown for the last seven or eight years. Is there a movie in the pipeline? I heard a couple of years ago that Brad Pitt wanted to play Jeff, but Jeff's mother wouldn't agree to this. I sometimes think Noah Wyle bears a striking resemblence to Jeff Buckley. > i watched Tea With Mussolini last night; > how > > amazing. I'm still smiling:-) What an astounding cast! Does anyone know > if > > this is really based on a true story as the movie suggests? > > Saw it as part of our Tampa Bay Gay and Lesbian Film Festival a few years > back before it came out in theaters. It has been described as pseudo > biological and semi biographical. I thought the movie, especially with > Cher, > was spectacular. > Yes, it just re-affirms my belief that Cher is one of the great actors. I had always thought so, but when you come across looking so great on screen with Maggie Smith, the divine Dame Judi, Joan Plowright and Lily Tomlin, then you must be bloody good! And that fifteen seconds of "smoke gets in your eyes" is sublime! I will be sitting about one hundred and fifty miles from the stage when i go to see her in Wembley in May, but it will be so worth it:-) In planning my fantasy dinner party, the guests would be Cher, Bette Midler, Joni, Patti Smith, Michael Stipe and Saul Bellow, maybe Toni Morrison. Gin and tonic for all! GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: soul, NJC Laura!!! HEY!! Look at me waving my hands in the air and jumping up and down - I know you cant miss that sight! I am in CHICAGO!!! HELLO!!???? Where you gonna be and for how long - maybe a cup of coffee or something - let me know what your schedule looks like!! I will check my times and availability as well. Lets see if we can coordinate an hour or two - k? Contact me off list if this seems feasible and I will give you my number. And in keeping with the thread .. I got soul! You ought to see me dance! Peace, Susan LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: Let's discuss this sometime. I'm heading off for Chicago and am feeling the time stress of preparing for the trip, but I do love to discuss philosophy, and the soul is just such an awesome topic... later. Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:24:04 +0100 From: "tantra-apso" Subject: Re: soul, NJC Note: not saying th following is fact, just what i think. I think every living thing is imbued with Spirit and is a part of the Great Spirit.(meaning the Great Spirit is every living thing plus some). so for me, the 'soul' is in at conception. We don't really know the answer to this question. Answers based on religious scripture hold no independent authority other than given by the individual. No one can answer this question with authority. Nonetheless, it is interesting to think about. I am comfortable with my view on your question, but it is only a view. It may be true, it may not. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:11:59 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC Garret writes: << I got it for #4 in Borders (wondering if the pound sign will show up on-list). >> And, in another post: << I got it for #4 in Borders (wondering if the pound sign will show up on-list). >> I guess whether or not the pound sign shows up on the list depends upon whether your post is sent directly to a recipient or through smoe. - -- Dr. Smurf, Baylor College of Medicine NPIMY: "You're going to feel a little prick . . . " ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:17:06 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: soul, NJC Smurf wrote: Marianne asked: << when do you think a soul enters a body? >> Honey, it's been a long time since a soul has entered mine! Hiya Smurf, You've got more soul than most gnomes! You are too funny! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:27:00 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: soul, NJC Bob wrote: << when do you think a soul enters a body? >> Easy. The first time you hear Aretha, Sam Cooke, James Brown or Al Green. Hi Bob, For me it was hearing Sarah Vaughn, Mahalia Jackson, and Anita Baker. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:27:49 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC I wrote: << I guess whether or not the pound sign shows up on the list depends upon whether your post is sent directly to a recipient or through smoe. >> I am such an idiot. What I wanted to show was that the British pound sign (as in the thing that looks sorta like a cap L with a line through it) showed up on the post that came directly to me, but since my reply went through smoe, only the other pound signs (#) came through. Must have more coffee . . . - -- Dr. Smurf, who says "Cough!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:33:41 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: soul, NJC Susan wrote: And in keeping with the thread .. I got soul! You ought to see me dance! Hi Susan, Yes, I'd love to see you in Chicago!!! Let's try! Surely I'll have a few hours in there sometime... "Do you want to dance? I love to dance!" "Night in the city looks pretty to me, night in the city looks fine, music comes spilling out into the street, colors go waltzing in time." I can hardly wait! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint if you sprinkle when you tinkle be a sweety, wipe the seaty... or floor, or wall, or whatever. or is there a reason it's hard for men to do this as well? jenny tantra_apso wrote: Over the years I ahve heard many women complain about men peeing evrywhere but into the bowl of a loo. This complaint is msot unfair and shows a lack of understanding of just how difficult it is for men to pee on target. unlike women, who just ahve sit down, men have a more difficult time of it. here is why: First of all, the morning pee. It is very difficult to aim an erevt penis at the bowl. It hurts if you try and push it down so the slit in the glans is pointing at the bowl. It is also not easy to pee anyway when the penis is hard. Problems are not confined just to the hard penis. oh no. The flaccid penis presents it's own problems. First all, it can get bent all out of shape. You can pull it out of your trousers, pint it directly at the bowl and hey presto the stream of urine hits the wall to the right or left, depending on which way the penis had folded itself. Even if it is not all folded, the slit may not be pointing where one thinks it is and thus pee gets on the floor or walls or even the seat of the toilet. Sometimes the slit doesn't open fully and you get a spray effect, rather like those hosepipes where you can turn the nozzle to either get a single stream of water or a spray effect like a shower. only we don't have such a nozzle attached to our peni, so we have to take pot luck. Then there is the added bonus of the uncircumsized penis. Even if the slit is pointing in the right direction, the foreskin may not be and the result is different each time. Maybe you will hit the bowl, maybe the wall, maybe the floor or even your leg. So why not roll back the foreskin before peeing? Seems to be a sensible thing to do. Trouble is it makes the trajectory of the urin stream even more unpredictable. It doesn't end with the end of the pee either. No. At the end of the pee, there comes the shake. Sometimes, a pee is over, and one shakes the penis, and low and behold another quarter pint comes out, just when you thought it was finished. Or the drops are pretty large and they splatter everywhere. You may even inadvertently blind yourself with this shaking lark. Again, the uncircumcised and un pulled back penis can present more of a problem as it can collect quite an amount of urine to fling about when one shakes. You see, a man's lot is not an easy one when it comes to peeing so please, ladies, nest time you are tempted to complain about a wet toilet seat or floof or wall, remeber how difficult it is for us. After all, you just have to sit and any fool can hit the bowl from there tho i concede it must be hard to shake your fanny. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint this leaves me feeling like I've been pee'ed on. Not Jenny's response, but Colin's graphic "input". Yep I feel like I've been forced to look a big one in the eye this beautiful May morning of 2004. Shoulda stopped reading it. Didn't. Now my gag reflex is lingering in my throat. But perhaps that was the desired effect. Em - --- Jenny Goodspeed wrote: > if you sprinkle when you tinkle > be a sweety, wipe the seaty... > > or floor, or wall, or whatever. > > or is there a reason it's hard for men to do this as well? > > jenny > > tantra_apso wrote: > Over the years I ahve heard many women complain about men peeing > evrywhere but > into the bowl of a loo. > This complaint is msot unfair and shows a lack of understanding of > just how > difficult it is for men to pee on target. unlike women, who just ahve > sit > down, men have a more difficult time of it. here is why: > > First of all, the morning pee. It is very difficult to aim an erevt > penis at > the bowl. It hurts if you try and push it down so the slit in the > glans is > pointing at the bowl. It is also not easy to pee anyway when the > penis is > hard. > Problems are not confined just to the hard penis. oh no. The flaccid > penis > presents it's own problems. First all, it can get bent all out of > shape. You > can pull it out of your trousers, pint it directly at the bowl and > hey presto > the stream of urine hits the wall to the right or left, depending on > which > way the penis had folded itself. Even if it is not all folded, the > slit may > not be pointing where one thinks it is and thus pee gets on the floor > or walls > or even the seat of the toilet. Sometimes the slit doesn't open fully > and you > get a spray effect, rather like those hosepipes where you can turn > the nozzle > to either get a single stream of water or a spray effect like a > shower. only > we don't have such a nozzle attached to our peni, so we have to take > pot luck. > Then there is the added bonus of the uncircumsized penis. Even if the > slit is > pointing in the right direction, the foreskin may not be and the > result is > different each time. Maybe you will hit the bowl, maybe the wall, > maybe the > floor or even your leg. So why not roll back the foreskin before > peeing? > Seems to be a sensible thing to do. Trouble is it makes the > trajectory of the > urin stream even more unpredictable. > > It doesn't end with the end of the pee either. No. At the end of the > pee, > there comes the shake. Sometimes, a pee is over, and one shakes the > penis, and > low and behold another quarter pint comes out, just when you thought > it was > finished. Or the drops are pretty large and they splatter everywhere. > You may > even inadvertently blind yourself with this shaking lark. Again, the > uncircumcised and un pulled back penis can present more of a problem > as it can > collect quite an amount of urine to fling about when one shakes. > > You see, a man's lot is not an easy one when it comes to peeing so > please, > ladies, nest time you are tempted to complain about a wet toilet seat > or floof > or wall, remeber how difficult it is for us. After all, you just have > to sit > and any fool can hit the bowl from there tho i concede it must be > hard to > shake your fanny. > bw > colin > http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs ===== ........... "thats just the scale; the fish come later". ;) Norman Blake __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:41:31 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC Since he addressed it to me too, i can vouch for what the doc says! It's all true:-) GARRET (staying away from a joke involving a little prick) Quoting Smurfycopy@aol.com: > Garret writes: > > << I got it for #4 in Borders (wondering if the pound sign will show up > on-list). >> > > And, in another post: > > << I got it for #4 in Borders (wondering if the pound sign will show up > on-list). >> > > I guess whether or not the pound sign shows up on the list depends upon > whether your post is sent directly to a recipient or through smoe. > > -- Dr. Smurf, Baylor College of Medicine > > NPIMY: "You're going to feel a little prick . . . " > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:09:39 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Re: Diana Krall tonight on Letterman vljc Thanks for this. By the time I read your note I had already missed her on Letterman but I was able to see her on NBC Today. K Randy Remote wrote: >Diana Krall will be the musical guest on Letterman tonight >She will also be on "NBC Today" tomorrow morning (Tues) > >Also on the tube: >TUES APR 27 >Ellen Degeneres Show (syn) : Liz Phair >Craig Kilborn Show: Liz Phair >THU APR 29 >Conan O'Brien Show: Patti Smith >SAT APR 30 >CNNFN The Music Room : Norah Jones (EST): 10:30am/2:30pm/ >5:15pm/11:30pm/3:30am > >ps there is a group from San Francisco called The Court and Spark. >Went to their web page, but there was no mention of Joni, so to >hell with them! >RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:50:16 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint Is this a joke? cuz i'm laughing my ass off! and may i point out that if any fool can sit on the pot then so can a man...4 PARAGRAPHS TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY PEE ON THE WALL! Give me strength. Sorry Colin but anyone who pees anywhere but in the toilet can just clean it up! db >>> "tantra_apso" 4/27/2004 6:12:19 AM >>> Over the years I ahve heard many women complain about men peeing evrywhere but into the bowl of a loo. This complaint is msot unfair and shows a lack of understanding of just how difficult it is for men to pee on target. unlike women, who just ahve sit down, men have a more difficult time of it. here is why: First of all, the morning pee. It is very difficult to aim an erevt penis at the bowl. It hurts if you try and push it down so the slit in the glans is pointing at the bowl. It is also not easy to pee anyway when the penis is hard. Problems are not confined just to the hard penis. oh no. The flaccid penis presents it's own problems. First all, it can get bent all out of shape. You can pull it out of your trousers, pint it directly at the bowl and hey presto the stream of urine hits the wall to the right or left, depending on which way the penis had folded itself. Even if it is not all folded, the slit may not be pointing where one thinks it is and thus pee gets on the floor or walls or even the seat of the toilet. Sometimes the slit doesn't open fully and you get a spray effect, rather like those hosepipes where you can turn the nozzle to either get a single stream of water or a spray effect like a shower. only we don't have such a nozzle attached to our peni, so we have to take pot luck. Then there is the added bonus of the uncircumsized penis. Even if the slit is pointing in the right direction, the foreskin may not be and the result is different each time. Maybe you will hit the bowl, maybe the wall, maybe the floor or even your leg. So why not roll back the foreskin before peeing? Seems to be a sensible thing to do. Trouble is it makes the trajectory of the urin stream even more unpredictable. It doesn't end with the end of the pee either. No. At the end of the pee, there comes the shake. Sometimes, a pee is over, and one shakes the penis, and low and behold another quarter pint comes out, just when you thought it was finished. Or the drops are pretty large and they splatter everywhere. You may even inadvertently blind yourself with this shaking lark. Again, the uncircumcised and un pulled back penis can present more of a problem as it can collect quite an amount of urine to fling about when one shakes. You see, a man's lot is not an easy one when it comes to peeing so please, ladies, nest time you are tempted to complain about a wet toilet seat or floof or wall, remeber how difficult it is for us. After all, you just have to sit and any fool can hit the bowl from there tho i concede it must be hard to shake your fanny. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:03:25 +0100 From: "tantra-apso" Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint > Sorry Colin but anyone who pees anywhere but in the toilet can just > clean it up! yes but men are handicapped. Most of us were brought up my women who did not teach us to clean.... bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:07:54 +0100 From: "tantra-apso" Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint But perhaps that was the desired effect. > Em nope a giggle was the desired effect. you can't please everyone all the time and there is no accounting for soh's or lack thereof. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:09:24 -0400 From: "Suzanne MarcAurele" Subject: Beat of Black Wings Pro Choice is a curious attack on the smallest world population - yes I dare to say it - to say the least this is the single issue that makes us all look like total idiots - fighting for racial extinction while the rest continue to populate with no concern whatsoever - we want our men at home, safe from war, we just don't want to give them children? 2 children per family was already quite common by 1960 so what the hell is the protest anyway? I can understand not birthing children with birth defects that will isolate them for life - God knows I know how wonderfully liberal and blind people are to mine - I am 53 single, never married because hypocrisy and illogic reign supreme - but hey what the hell - flip the coin and be chic off line and politically correct whenever needed! S. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:56:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint - --- tantra-apso wrote: > you can't please everyone all > the time > and there is no accounting for soh's or lack thereof. well hmm, I'm not *usually* known for humorless-ness. Maybe I read it at a bad time of day. Early morning, at work, first coffee, etc. Given a late afternoon, or evening read - given a read after a Jim Beam or 3, yeah maybe a giggle would have happened. (probably, in fact) ::shrug:: In any case, my bad; nolo contendere, for continuing to read something that was not making me happy, and my even "badder" for posting about it. large apes.. Em ===== ........... "thats just the scale; the fish come later". ;) Norman Blake __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:58:16 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: I want to write to Joni Mitchell That was a hoax. Jim Nuriel said, >Think it was on last year's Valentine's day (ot the year before) that the list got an e-mail from Joni (or "Joni"). It said something like "Hope you all have a lovely Valentine's day and please BUY my new album". Don't know if that was a hoax, or the real Joan, but if you go to the archive, you can find the e-mail address that came with it. (I think?...)> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:18:15 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: a BIG birthday wish for BIG Walt -- NJC In a message dated 4/22/04 3:55:41 AM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << happy birthday, walt! i'm trying different kinds of chignons to be your piano teacher. >> Do you mean chignons or mignons? I'm easy -- as Spurph has undoubtedly told everyone... love and thanks, walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:19:52 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] RE: a BIG birthday wish for BIG Walt -- NJC In a message dated 4/22/04 4:25:47 AM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << every tuesday morning the BF sits behind a one-way mirror and takes note upon note as psychotic children attempt to murder their therapists. >> Are they having any luck? hugs, walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:31:27 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: happy belated B-day and TLSF Syndrome (njc) In a message dated 4/22/04 7:33:39 AM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: << Walt! I hope you are coming to the fest this year! Noodles was great..enjoying it on the fest dvd's/ Love and good health to you.. >> Thanks so much, bree. Waitaminute, did you say "Noodles" is on DVD? Yikes. Everytime I do something that gets videorecorded, I do something embarrassing. I must be one of the few people in the world who have too *little* stage fright (along with, e.g., Charro, Madonna, that Green[?] guy who married Drew Barrymore, and Joan Rivers; come to think of it, there *are* a lot of people with TLSF syndrome! Being a sufferer myself, I should probably start a charity: The PWDTLSFSAFSAS Foundation [People Who Distract TLSF Sufferers Away From Stage and Screen]. No fiduciary donations, just if you happen to run into any of these people, try your best to convince them not to do anything public anymore. So if you run into Madonna, just tell her she's too good to waste her time on *film*, etc.; and if you see me at the Fest, similarly. It'll make a better world for all of us...). I think I'm kidding... Love, and thanks again, Bree. Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:32:44 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Thanks to all (njc) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:35:08 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Trying that again...(njc) Hi, all -- Thanks to everyone who sent b-day wishes -- I will *eventually* answer all of them individually! Also, will start posting again soon, whenever I'm able to sit up and type at the same time. xoxox to all, walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:38:36 -0400 From: Dave Cuneo Subject: Dreamland Ciao Joniphiles, Question: why does the version of "Dreamland" on the "Hissing Demos" CD sound so much better than what is on DJRD??? What happened? Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:44:08 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] RE: a BIG birthday wish for BIG Walt -- NJC darling, one of them almost did last week -- and more power to him, god bless. someday i'll tell you all about a seminar i'm taking on communication theory. the professors are so out of it, you just have to laugh. actually, you can't help laughing your head off all the time. "man, language is DIGITAL", that kind of stuff from like palo alto, 1967? next week i'm starting my mandatory 5-year, 4-session-a-week analysis, as prescribed by the IPA. my analyst is so old, i'm sure she's melanie klein in disguise. fortunately, my scholarship covers my analyst's fees. if she turns out to be ms klein back from the grave, cool. i'll feign regression and masturbate four times a week for one year. that will leave only four years to go. W, reclaiming "W" as a legitimate initial for the good people > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Justalittlebreen@aol.com [mailto:Justalittlebreen@aol.com] > Enviado el: Martes, 27 de Abril de 2004 02:20 p.m. > Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: [NortheastJonifest] RE: a BIG birthday wish for BIG Walt -- > NJC > > > > In a message dated 4/22/04 4:25:47 AM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > > << every tuesday morning the BF sits > behind a one-way mirror and takes note upon note as psychotic children > attempt to murder their therapists. >> > > Are they having any luck? > > hugs, > > walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:05:05 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dreamland Ciao Dave! Well, maybe your question is a trick question...the demo version has that little guitar lick on it and the kazoo, it's a lot more musical & fun than the DJRD version, which I also like. Bob NP: The Smithereens, "Top Of The Pops" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:13:57 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Pro-Choice NJC I don't think this can be overstated: The thing about pro choice is that it is not pro abortion... Pro choice is there for women who may be in situations that you (the general you) have never been in. I think its important for those who are anti choice to feel grateful that they have never been in the situation that some women face. I'm not saying abortion is the right choice, I'm just saying that it is not any of our business to tell someone else what to do in this situation because everyone's situation is different. Again, its about choice. After choice comes consequences, karma, whatever you want to call it. It is my believe that we all reap & pay for our choices & actions, sooner or later. Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:45:42 -0400 From: cul Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint hahahaha...I haven't stood up to piss in years...I always sit to pee except when I'm really drunk and then I write (print, not cursive) my name everywhere but the bowl. Which is probably why I'm known as "one party-cul". Listening to:"Its Getting Hot In Here" (Nellie) Donna Binkley wrote: Is this a joke? cuz i'm laughing my ass off! and may i point out that if any fool can sit on the pot then so can a man...4 PARAGRAPHS TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY PEE ON THE WALL! Give me strength. Sorry Colin but anyone who pees anywhere but in the toilet can just clean it up! db "tantra_apso" < tantraapso@btopenworld.com > 4/27/2004 6:12:19 AM Over the years I ahve heard many women complain about men peeing evrywhere but into the bowl of a loo. This complaint is msot unfair and shows a lack of understanding of just how difficult it is for men to pee on target. unlike women, who just ahve sit down, men have a more difficult time of it. here is why: First of all, the morning pee. It is very difficult to aim an erevt penis at the bowl. It hurts if you try and push it down so the slit in the glans is pointing at the bowl. It is also not easy to pee anyway when the penis is hard. Problems are not confined just to the hard penis. oh no. The flaccid penis presents it's own problems. First all, it can get bent all out of shape. You can pull it out of your trousers, pint it directly at the bowl and hey presto the stream of urine hits the wall to the right or left, depending on which way the penis had folded itself. Even if it is not all folded, the slit may not be pointing where one thinks it is and thus pee gets on the floor or walls or even the seat of the toilet. Sometimes the slit doesn't open fully and you get a spray effect, rather like those hosepipes where you can turn the nozzle to either get a single stream of water or a spray effect like a shower. only we don't have such a nozzle attached to our peni, so we have to take pot luck. Then there is the added bonus of the uncircumsized penis. Even if the slit is pointing in the right direction, the foreskin may not be and the result is different each time. Maybe you will hit the bowl, maybe the wall, maybe the floor or even your leg. So why not roll back the foreskin before peeing? Seems to be a sensible thing to do. Trouble is it makes the trajectory of the urin stream even more unpredictable. It doesn't end with the end of the pee either. No. At the end of the pee, there comes the shake. Sometimes, a pee is over, and one shakes the penis, and low and behold another quarter pint comes out, just when you thought it was finished. Or the drops are pretty large and they splatter everywhere. You may even inadvertently blind yourself with this shaking lark. Again, the uncircumcised and un pulled back penis can present more of a problem as it can collect quite an amount of urine to fling about when one shakes. You see, a man's lot is not an easy one when it comes to peeing so please, ladies, nest time you are tempted to complain about a wet toilet seat or floof or wall, remeber how difficult it is for us. After all, you just have to sit and any fool can hit the bowl from there tho i concede it must be hard to shake your fanny. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:23:12 +0100 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: the homecoming. the haiku part 2 NJC HI, If this is self indulgent then sorry but.......... Following the explanation of the Haiku I also had a number (thank you) of enquiries of about whether my father came home. Yes he did. And that was just a wonderful day. He was due in to Bristol Temple Meads station. Temple Meads is a truly magnificent neo- Gothic, Victorian celebration of the use of wrought iron. If it can have curlicues on it, it has them, if there can be brass handrails then there will be some. The toilets used to be fantastic with the most incredibly intricate tiling on the floors and walls (think migraine and you wont be far wrong) and highly engraved glass... I have not been there for years but I hope they are still the same.. There was also a wonderful toilet keeper, employed by British Rail who went into each cubicle after use to make sure it was clean and the flush had been correctly employed. She would nod you in but never say a word. A saucer sat on the table for tips... And huge brown pennies would clink into it from time to time. One day, whilst in there with my Grandmother, she greeted my Gran as a long lost friend. I assumed my gran was a regular. It turned out not to be the case..they were poker and drinking buddies!!!!!! I can remember my mother trying to get away as quickly as she could but no, my gran, in her broadest Cumbrian accent would "not hear of it". We had to be introduced to her and every one in the queue started mumbling "hurry up"... I only understood years after whenI came to know that my gran had a drink problem about my mothers absolute horror of this woman and the affect she had on Grans' attempts to not hit the sauce every now and again. She would bet her 10 shillings she could not down a bottle of sherry in one afternoon. Being a gambling woman gran never ceased to win the bet! Anyway... The day my father came home was wonderful. My brother and sister and I were all bathed, a hairdryer (a huge Pifco pink thing that smelled of fish when the element got hot) had been borrowed to make sure we did not go out with wet hair ("you would catch your death!!") And we were all in our Sunday best.... I had gloves and white kid shoes and a little hat. My mother wore a stunning dress that my gran had made in one of her sober periods (she had actually been a tailor). She had cut the pattern from something she had seen in Vogue magazine and you would not have known it was home made . The skirt, in a fine painted voile , floated over a sheath of silk... She wore her pearls and there was a little jacket of soft green wool and a small hat too. A taxi........ (my god do you know what an exravagance that was!!! A TAXI) came to pick us all up. Well all except the dog. We had a dachshund called Martha Moo. She was a black and tan standard Daschund (sausage dog) and extremely stubborn. Now she has endured her bath, had not rolled in anything disgusting, had been really well behaved for once but absolutely refused to get in the car. In the end my mother (alsmost a hair out of place!!!) Threw the dog back into the house and asked our land lady to make sure the "bloody animal" went up to the flat. Climbing in to the Taxi (we kids were sooooo well behaved as it was such a treat to be in a car) mum sat down and said with a big grin "now isn't this nice..... Temple Meads station please driver..... my husband is coming home". Well we got to the station and we waited, and we waited and then it was announced that the service in from London was delayed for another 3 hours. My mother set her jaw and we got ANOTHER TAXI home!!!! She booked the TAXI (this was sooooo good) to come in two and a half hours and we went in. The dog looked at us from her bed and just lay down again. We took off our posh clothes, played monopoly and then got dressed again and this time the dog could not wait to come. She was straining at the leash... Mum almost left her behind just to teach her a lesson but I doubt she would have stayed..the dog was coming whether she had permission or not. So we all got out of the Taxi and went onto the concourse and mum enquired of one of the guards where the London train was going to come in and he indicated whichever platform it would be. A train came in and disgorged its passengers and we all strained to see "daddy" I had no memory of what he looked like so it was pretty useless me looking. Martha, however had other ideas. Mum had obviously let the leash go a bit and before she could take hold of it the dog ran away. Moo had a way of running that was all her own. She ran with both back legs together and her tail went round and round and round to counterbalance the slight left drift that her running gave her.... Mum was utterly furious and said. "Oh leave the bloody dog, she can go and get squished for all I care right now".. I watched the dog run all along the platform with her madly circling tail and dash up another platform, he lead trailing out behind her and bouncing in her wake. ears flapping like flags in a breeze.. Then she got lost in the front of a train that was just pulling on to the platform. WE stood and waited for a few more moments.....Sarah ( my sister and I) were in tears about losing our dog, my brother was interested in how many sorts of cigarette butts were in the fire bucket and my mother was stretched to utter despair. Dad was not on the train... "Well we are just going to have to find the dog and wait... " She ushered us onto a bench and was in the middle of telling us to "not move a muscle when she stopped and turned round mid sentance. Coming towards us, holding our dogs' lead was a tall man in Naval officers uniform, grinning broadly, with a dog that was sooooo pleased with herself she was almost floating.... Mum ran into his arms and just stood there buried in his arms. If you have ever seen the film "the Railway children" where Jenny Agutter runs to her father..that is what it was like with my mother to my father. And for the second time I heard "oh John, Oh John, oh my darling John" it was only when Dad spoke that I knew him for my father as I did not remember his face but I knew his voice from the taped stories he sent. The dog had literally sensed which train he was on as it had not come in at the time she ran off. Dad says it was so weird because someone in his carriage looked out of the window and said "there is a sausage dog looking for someone, it is running up and down the platform and looking up at the windows.. " he looked out and knew instantly it was Moo but did not dare call her incase she dashed against the train while it was coming to rest. Apparently she stopped and sat down opposite the door where my father came out and threw herself at his legs. His voice when they spoke At the long journeys' ending Flowered in her heart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:25:25 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni in the new RS (or out of it as the case may be) I actually sent them a letter, too. It said "How drunk to you have to be to choose Madonna over Joni Mitchell? I mean, really". How drunk did they have to be not to print my letter? I mean, really! Anyway, glad someone made the point. RR SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > As you recall, last month Rolling Stone ran a "50 Immortals" special edition > in which Joni was conspicuously absent. The selections were based on the > collective votes of a panel of 55 people, only 2 of which were women. These kinds > of lists always generate mail along the lines of "how could you leave > out______________? > > A Steven Axelrod writes "To not include Joni Mitchell is an insult. She could > have painted the portraits as well." > > A picture of Joni appears on the letters page, along with the editor's reply > on how the selections were made, and further stating that Joni came in at > number 60. > > Bob > > NP: Stan Ridgway, "God Sleeps In A Caboose" (Probably Stan's best yet) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:46:47 EDT From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: JUST SAYING HI (NJC) it's been a long time since i've written, or even read ( God forgive me) the list. i haven't forgotten, just haven't been able to. i wish you all peace and love. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC Me too. Yup. To all of it. --- Garret wrote: > Since he addressed it to me too, i can vouch for > what the doc says! It's all > true:-) > GARRET (staying away from a joke involving a little > prick) > > > Quoting Smurfycopy@aol.com: > > > Garret writes: > > > > << I got it for #4 in Borders (wondering if the > pound sign will show up > > on-list). >> > > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:54:58 -0400 From: vince Subject: njc religious organizations on choice http://www.rcrc.org I belong to the above. Some might enjoy wandering through the website. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:25:48 +0100 From: "tantra-apso" Subject: Re: njc woman's complaint I didn't take your email as negative, wasn't sure what you thought. Now i know! bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:30:32 +0100 From: "tantra-apso" Subject: Re: Pro-Choice NJC After > choice comes consequences, karma, whatever you want to call it. It is > my believe that we all reap & pay for our choices & actions, sooner or > later. mine too. we all experoence the consequeneces, for good or bad, of our every thought and action. It may not be obvious or it may be very obvious. Either way, we are the authors of our experiences. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #194 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)