From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #177 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 19 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 177 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni loves me songs:) [Lori Fye ] Re: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert [Bobsart48@] RE: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert ["Lama, Jim] Today's Library Links: April 19 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:10:26 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Joni loves me songs:) Nuriel wants to know: > What song makes you feel that Joni loves you? Harry's House/Centerpiece, where, after ... He drifts off into the memory Of the way she looked in school With her body oiled and shining At the public swimming pool ... ... I just KNOW Joni is singing, "Lori Lori Lori Lori ..." ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:26:31 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert Last week, lama wrote "Some time in May 67 Joni was at The Other Side in Fayetteville, NC USA, according to Simon. She met that unknown upstart, James Taylor, in March 1969. " I did not know that - I had imagined their meeting to have been later than that, given the 'romance' timeline I have in my head (though I realized that "meeting" and "romance" are not synonymous). Jim's post reminded me once again of the Joni/James BBC concert. Since that was in late 1970, we have another example of Joni trying out new material on her audience (in this case, songs from Blue - Carey, California, River, My Old Man, A case of You. Although she makes no references to these being new, obviously their performance here pre-dated the release of Blue, so for most if not all of that audience, this was new material. Joni had played unfinished versions of All I Want and My Old Man (and more finished versions of other songs from Blue) during her Pink Dress BBC concert earlier that year. Not just "new", but "before new". That penchant was again front and center when I saw her at Carnegie Hall in February, 1972, some 9 months before the release of FTR. She performed finished and perfected versions of a half dozen songs from FTR, and seemed nearly giddy with the excitement of doing new material for her fans. Some of it was pretty bold, in the sense that the songs took me several listenings to warm up to and appreciate (Lesson in Survival, The Banquet, Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire). The others were perhaps a bit more accessible on first listen (Electricity, You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio), and For the Roses), but I found it brave (or was it foolhardy, or simply self indulgent ?) of her to perform for an audience that was unfamiliar with the material. I have the impression that artists often play material from their latest releases in concert - but usually after their release. On the scale of venue in which Joni was performing (TV / Carnegie Hall / Paris Theatre) my perception is that Joni's typical "art first, commerce second" approach in this area was relatively rare. Do you all agree ? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:04:35 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Connecting the Dots - and Trying out new songs in concert Q from Bob S: "I found it brave (or was it foolhardy, or simply self indulgent ?) of her to perform for an audience that was unfamiliar with the material.My perception is that Joni's typical "art first, commerce second" approach in this area was relatively rare. Do you all agree ?" A: "Is Joan courageous? Absolutely. Yes, her resolve is bolstered by her ability, her talent, to always deliver the goods, to follow through. Never expect her to back away from a goal. She will never waver. Is she foolhardy? Not hardly. Perhaps Charles Mingus said it best when he said, 'She is nervy.' " Lama, possibly channeling for John Ashcroft? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:15:00 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 19 On April 19 the following article was published: 1999: "Making up for Lost Time" - Los Angeles Times (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=556 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #177 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)