From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #171 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, April 16 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 171 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC ["Lucy Hone" ] Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC ["tantra_apso" ] Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC [Chris Marshall ] Re: NJC W's Press conference [dsk ] Re: (NJC) Tom Robbins ["Norman Pennington" ] Re: NJC W's Press conference PC [dsk ] Re: NJC W's Press conference PC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC [Lori Fye ] Re: A Free Joni Cover 4 U [Nuriel Tobias ] Instant Bliss [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: A Free Joni Cover 4 U [David Sadowski ] Re: Kate bush and quitting the music biz -- NJC, really [Catherine McKay ] Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC W's Press conference PC [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC W's Press conference [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Today's Library Links: April 16 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] RE: NJC W's Press conference [kate@katebennett.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:19:59 +0100 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC Dear all of you who are trying to prove you are right and the others wrong... May I remind all of us that we are at the mercy of people who had backs to protect, money to guard, knives to grind and ladders to climb. They also have points to prove, doctrines to splatter over us, prejudices to implant, arms to sell, deals to broker, colleagues to stitch up and corporations to take back handers from. You may read all the public enquiries, political kant/spin/blurb/statistics you want but that will not alter the fact that people of all nations are being killed. A friend of mine works for an American news agency out there and has just returned. A telephone call yesterday from him says that what is shown of what it is like, is heavily edited.... I am sick to the stomach that our two nations have dragged others in to a country that has no proven connection to the terrible events on 11th September 2001. The whole issue of WMD has never been proven.. so this is not a "JUST WAR" and no one will ever convince me that is was. One dead person in this war.. one dead person of any nationality, is one dead person too many. Saddam could have been overthrown by stealth, he could have been taken out without children and families being killed, Some loss of life would have been inevitable but not the wholesale killing that is going on. I am tired of the world being swung on a chain that is being dangled by world leaders who have not the intelligence nor the ability to yield to common sense. Aid and more Aid and even more Aid should be poured into Iraq. The Iraqis are a proud and honourable race with a history that extends way way back. They were making beautiful things out of silver and gold and producing rugs when the British were still in awe of clay pots. There is an arrogant assumption that we have something to offer them that is better than what was there. Democracy Western Style is not the Iraqi way... They have their own way of governing and it is not for us to say how they should run their country. Would you accept it? I think not... Well I say...... let them re-build their fractured towns because we bombed them, let them re-build their roads because we bombed them, let them take charge, let them govern to the way that is acceptable to them. They can thank the Alliance nations (if they feel inclined to do so) by supplying us with cheaper oil over a period of time, since they are probably nationally bankrupt, and then it can all be fair and square.. If they want an armed presence there then they can pay us in oil... Lets be fair... It is time to stand back and see what can be done... I am perhaps naive (oh I can hear the guffaws at the rifle clubs already, and the martini stirrers clink to the sides of the glasses at the very suggestion) but why not. There is not one good reason why we are there. I challenge the governments of the US and the UK to disprove the conspiracy theories (PNAC is running true to form .....so far as I see it) Surely we can hand over to the Iraqis that which is theirs? Isn't it their country? did they ask us in to help? I have not seen anything that convinces me.. There is no way that we can have gone there after oil is there? It would not have anything to do with baby Bush wanting to feel all growed up would it? There is no way that Haliburtons and the other companies are getting any work out there is there? I mean it is all being shared out amongst all the other countries that have helped .... isn't it? There is no conspiracy going on out there is there? Oh well.. I had better go and get my car from the garage and go and fill it up with the equivalent of $75 worth of diesel.... That is the real cost of fuel all of you in the States... That is what a tank of diesel costs. Have a little think about who wants to keep the cost of fuel down just for you, Why might that be a vote winner?... How is he going to do it? Hmmmmmm I wonder Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:51:02 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate bush and quitting the music biz Nuriel created this interesting typo: Subject: NJC Patti Smith tomorrow on CBS' Late Show with David Letterman Hi, dears! I'm just taking a little break for announcing you this Patti Smith appearance: Watch it for me, please! (and for Garret, too ;-) Have a helluva time! Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Kate bush and quitting the music biz LOL. Well. haven't you already noticed that i'm THE master in our list in creating interesting typos? Bob, You're a mean old daddy but i like you...:) Love, Nuriel SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: Nuriel created this interesting typo: So...since Joni spends the bulk of her time in the USA, instead of Canada (with its maple leaf flag), does that make her an ex-maple? Bob NP: Stones, "Street Fighting Man" Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:55:39 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Kate bush and quitting the music biz -- NJC, really Bobster writes: << So...since Joni spends the bulk of her time in the USA, instead of Canada (with its maple leaf flag), does that make her an ex-maple? >> I've got my money riding on the maple leafs. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: RE: NJC W's Press conference this brings it all home to me just what a prop gwb he really is... he's the image behind the pnac military machine... they all belong in jail or banished to an island like napoleon...impeachment is too good for them all... the best i can hope for now is they are booted out in november & they will go down in history as being far more damaging & corrupt than the nixon administration.... gwb is an absolute puppet for some very nasty men... he's the actor (not a very good one when anything of substance is required) for their war commercial... remember when gwb flew in to that aircraft carrier dressed up his costume (that no other president with REAL military experience had ever done because of the dangersous perception of the military & administrative branch being to closely linked... well now they are) to declare that the major combat was over? last week more american military died than any week since this war was started... this whole war, this whole administration is one big corrupt deception... & yes i am very emotionally upset after reading about the kids who died this week & seeing the photos of their family grieving... because i have family there that i am worried about every single day... & i hear there is still talk about the draft & i have kids who could be called for that who do not believe this war is just... & i am very very tired of hearing people defend this war who have absolutely nothing to loose... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:08:10 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC Lucy Hone wrote: > There is not one good reason why we are there. There is now. If we leave, the country we have destabilized will collapse into civil war, with massive loss of life. Saddam was a bastard, but there was a balance of power there. Now we have to stay and police, maybe for years, which will give us plenty of time to install and support a government of our-oops-I mean the Iraqi people's-choosing. > Oh well.. I had better go and get my car from the garage and go and fill it up > with the equivalent of $75 worth of diesel.... > > That is the real cost of fuel all of you in the States... That is what a tank > of diesel costs. Have a little think about who wants to keep the cost of fuel > down just for you, Why might that be a vote winner?... How is he going to do > it? Hmmmmmm I wonder > When you add the taxes neccesary to maintain our military might, the oil companies' subsidies, and all the tax cuts for corporations and millionaires, it ain't so cheap; the cost is just shuffled to a different column. Thanks for your post, Lucy. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:43:58 +0100 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC In reply to my post From: "Randy Remote" wrote > > Lucy Hone wrote: > > > There is not one good reason why we are there. > RANDY WROTE > There is now. If we leave, the country we have destabilized will > collapse into civil war, with massive loss of life. Saddam was > a bastard, but there was a balance of power there. Now we have > to stay and police, maybe for years, which will give us plenty of > time to install and support a government of our-oops-I mean > the Iraqi people's-choosing. MY REPLY....... It already has collapsed, as planned, OOOOPS am I suggesting a conspiracy? NO! WOULD I? Nice to see that the usual righteous hindsight (employed by those whose scheming has come under scrutiny) is starting to cause a few fumbled answers in high places.... Now why might that be? And as to the cost of your fuel? I would start saving an extra $2 a gallon just in case... You never know when you might need it.... Frankly I think we should bung the cost of car fuel sky high, plough millions into the public transport system and make is cheap... Better air quality, less congestion and less road rage. Dream on Lucy!!! I know. Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:10:32 +0100 From: "tantra_apso" Subject: kerry njc Monday, John and i went into London to meet with Kerry. I found her to be very pleasant company. (as did J). Such a shame she lives so far away! We wandered around the west End. ate in China Town. The service there is still so rude! It was quite interesting for me as I ahd not wandered around there for years, but have done 3 times in the lst month. I don't miss it. Monday was the longest time I ahd spent there and my nose and throat soon b3ecame bunged and sore and that carried over to the next day till my fresh country air wasa able to clear it! London smells bad! anyway, we chatted about all sorts of things. kerry is very socaible. She brought me a gift of a t-shirt with Milwaukee written over the chest. I have it on now. In fact I sleep in it! I have now met several American/Candaian listers and have enjoyed all of them. I wonder who I'll get to meet next? bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:16:26 +0100 From: "tantra_apso" Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC > And as to the cost of your fuel? I would start saving an extra $2 a gallon > just in case... You never know when you might need it.... The major reason fuel costs so much here in the UK is because of the tax the govt puts on it. > > Frankly I think we should bung the cost of car fuel sky high, plough > millions into the public transport system and make is cheap... Better air > quality, less congestion and less road rage. I understand that point of view. However, even if they provided good and plentiful and cheap transport for us country folk, I ( an many others) would still need a car and to use it regularly. Most of what i do cannot be done any other way. Like dog shows. Like going to the vet. Like going visiitng and leaving when i want. Like lugging stuff about. For instance, iahve a speaking engaement tonight, 27 miles from home. By pulic transport? You have to be kidding. Couldn't be done. What could be done, and should already ahve been done, is developing a different energy source.... bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:19:24 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC As it has already been stated, we are spoiled in the US in terms of fuel cost. I wonder sometimes how high the price will have to climb before people change their CONSUMPTION habits. I don't believe the average American has modified their consumption in any way. The SUV's and guzzlers are still selling in big numbers, people go where they want, when they want, and just grumble at the pumps. When I brought this up in a recent Men's breakfast, I was "corrected" and informed that the real problem is that the Democrats won't let Bush drill in Alaska. Incredible. Luckily I didn't have a mouthful of java or I would have done a Danny Thomas coffee-spew. Bob NP: The Stones, "Wanna Hold You" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:29:48 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: RE: NJC W's Press conference It is a very emotional time, Kate. What's important is that we do as Vince has done, and channel the frustration & emotion into action. 2004 is all going to be about voter turnout. That's it. We have to convince people who care (and even those who may not) to vote, vote, vote. Speaking of the dead from this confrontation, I found this picture to be very moving: http://www.michaelmoore.com/ And I read the transcript of Bush's press conference too, and I'll give him this - he did a brilliant job of connecting 9/11 & Iraq, he made them seem interchangeable, as if one was actually an appropriate response to the other. Whoever WROTE HIS ANSWERS FOR HIM did a fine job. Bob NP: Rolling Stones, "Too Much Blood" (how's that for NP synchro?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:12:19 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: (NJC) Tom Robbins now Henry James Norman Pennington wrote: > > LOL!!! :-D Too, too cool! Buck, I'm so glad you enjoyed my Henry Jamesing. In the spirit of Jamesian perfection, I see there are two words missing: "... bit wallpaper ..." is supposed to be "... bit of striped wallpaper...". Ahh, I feel better now. Debra Shea, who wrote this: > > Reading Henry James... > > ... and then I see a bit wallpaper on the side of > > the cab, why is it here?, the bars, the cage, ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:27:13 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC Lucy Hone wrote: > Frankly I think we should bung the cost of car fuel sky high, plough > millions into the public transport system and make is cheap... Better air > quality, less congestion and less road rage. We have something here called "the working poor". They can barely afford to drive to their underpaid jobs as it is. High gas prices will only penalize the poor. Folks with more money won't really notice. Someday, in the not-too-distant future, gas, like food, will be out of reach for the non-wealthy. The corporations need only raise the price to meet their own needs. The rest-not their problem. Too many cars. Too many people. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:47:38 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: (NJC) Tom Robbins The laughing Mr. Pennington wrote: > > Oh, Debra...while I'm still on the subject...PLEASE...do Tom Robbins for us? > PLEASE? My pleasure, because... Reading Tom Robbins is like riding an old and trusty rusty red bicycle down a big hill with arms and legs flung outward, head thrown back, the wind alone holding us upright and gravity deciding our path. Wheeeeee! And whoooshhh, down the hill and around a curve, savoring this mound that entices sledders in the slippery slide of winter and excites a rider in the bursting blooming engorging of spring. A perceptive reader will understand this in this first quarter century of the new millennium when men don't understand women and women sometimes wonder about men. The reader may be an astronomy topology physiology buff or may be like the author who now libidinously rides his bicycle underneath carrying him to heights yet to be reached, traveling down the hill, into the valley, and then urging him upward and if it's night he sees the stars above as he rises upward and he wonders. What are they? They are not diamonds in a tiara. They are not sparkles on a ballgown. They are not sequins thrown upward by some demented seamstress. They are not sparks left over from last year's fireworks. No. Those stars are not any of those things... They are clumps of dust and there's some notion that they have to do with you and they have to do with me and the perceptive reader will understand this in this first quarter century of the new millennium when men don't understand women and women sometimes wonder about men. Debra Shea, enjoying my Tom Robbinsing ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:23:14 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC On 15 Apr 2004, at 20:27, Randy Remote wrote: > We have something here called "the working poor". And this is somehow unique to the USA? We have the same class of people too. In order to afford high fuel costs they skimp on things like car tax and insurance. Perhaps if all the tax on our fuel went into public transport we'd have a better, cheaper, further-reaching, faster, more frequent, longer-running and cleaner transport system. But it doesn't, so we don't. In the UK, the moral is: if you want to live outside the city and work anywhere that isn't within 5 miles of home, don't. Hey ho. - --Chris Marshall (being about as political as I get) chrisATstryngs.com (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC - Fleur de Lis (Richard Shindell) - --- OzWoman321@aol.com wrote: > I too am a long-time fan of Richard Shindell's music - his discussion > list is > phenomenally creative with song discussion/analysis. > > I remembered this topic came up recently and searched the archives - > start > with the post below (the thread runs about 5 days) and enjoy! > > http://grassyhill.org/stax/shindell/index.cgi?i=1070573844_rfoxwell Hi Susan wow I just went and started looking at this..first off, thanks for sending it on...but I read the first couple of posts and quick clicked off it....I dunno, I walked away thinking, NO!!!! don't look too deep. You're not supposed to look, and you're "violating" the song by looking. So thats where I am right now. But! on the other hand my curious side is wanting to go read further because its pretty fascinating whats being written. But I feel they're being kind of literal too. (so far!) It would be like finding a beautiful sleeping nun, and taking her clothes off to check her out, find out whats underneath. It just wouldn't be "right"! I mean if it were consensual, hell yes...but not otherwise. So I don't know about digging deeper into "Fleur". I'm torn! lol.... a moral dilemma...just kidding, but thats sort of the general feel. Nature is telling me "leave this one alone". Don't be too analytical or poke it too much - it will "spoil" it. So lets see what happens...do I go back and read more?, or not! But again, thanks for putting that out there. :) Em << writhing in "fleurmoil"...heheh, nah ===== "A minotaur gets very sore" ....ISB '68 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:32:14 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: NJC W's Press conference kate@katebennett.com wrote: > > this brings it all home to me just what a prop gwb he really is... he's > the image behind the pnac military machine... they all belong in jail or > banished to an island like napoleon...impeachment is too good for them > all... the best i can hope for now is they are booted out in november & > they will go down in history as being far more damaging & corrupt than the > nixon administration.... There's a new book by John Dean about that very subject. In his view the Bushies are more secretive and damaging and corrupt than Nixon's administration, and Dean should know since he was there. It's full of details that make sense to me. Another interesting read is the long article in May's Vanity Fair about how the Bushies convinced people to support their pre-emptive strike on Iraq. It shows clearly what people mean when they say the administration lies. It's very hard to read. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:31:42 -0600 From: "Norman Pennington" Subject: Re: (NJC) Tom Robbins Debra satisfied my request (in spades) to "do" TR by writing: > My pleasure, because... > > Reading Tom Robbins is like riding an old and trusty rusty red bicycle > down a big hill with arms and legs flung outward, head thrown back, the > wind alone holding us upright and gravity deciding our path. Wheeeeee! > And whoooshhh, down the hill and around a curve, savoring this mound > that entices sledders in the slippery slide of winter and excites a > rider in the bursting blooming engorging of spring. A perceptive reader > will understand this in this first quarter century of the new millennium > when men don't understand women and women sometimes wonder about men. > The reader may be an astronomy topology physiology buff or may be like > the author who now libidinously rides his bicycle underneath carrying > him to heights yet to be reached, traveling down the hill, into the > valley, and then urging him upward and if it's night he sees the stars > above as he rises upward and he wonders. What are they? > > They are not diamonds in a tiara. > > They are not sparkles on a ballgown. > > They are not sequins thrown upward by some demented seamstress. > > They are not sparks left over from last year's fireworks. > > No. Those stars are not any of those things... > > They are clumps of dust and there's some notion that they have to do > with you and they have to do with me and the perceptive reader will > understand this in this first quarter century of the new millennium when > men don't understand women and women sometimes wonder about men. > > Debra Shea, > enjoying my Tom Robbinsing Damn, but you are TALENTED, Girl!!! Thank you for a bright spot in my day and a reprieve from the political wars...no pun intended. Best Regards, bp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:36:01 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: NJC W's Press conference PC Richard Flynn wrote: > > This is clearly the most inarticulate, evasive, platitude spouting and, > frankly, the stupidest presidential perforamnce I've ever witnessed. I don't think I've ever known anyone so unreflective. It's unfortunate because there are always lessons to be learned and there's no sign that Bush, or his controllers, have learned anything from the messes they've made. It was interesting (but scary also) to hear Bush's enthusiastic belief in his ability to change the world for the good. It doesn't match what's happening. Such a not-matching-reality attitude would be called grandiosity and considered a sign of ill health in anyone else... That aside, Bush was well coached for this press conference. No smirks this time. It's infuriating, though, the way he doesn't answer certain questions, like the one about why he and Cheney are meeting together with the 9/11 commission. His answer was the commission wants information and they're happy to meet with them. When the question was asked again, with an added comment about how the commission wants to question them SEPARATELY, Bush gave exactly the same memorized answer! I was hoping one of the questioners would yell out, "Hey, dude, what about the *together* part??!!" I picture Cheney literally speaking for Bush, like a ventriloquist, correcting whatever Bush says if Bush does answer a question himself, and if that's not the sign of a creepy puppetmaster, I don't know what is. Not facing the commissioners without his handler nearby makes Bush look like a complete wuss, so I'm surprised conservatives are letting that happen. > Watchword of the day: "Wasn't on a war footing." That's the phrase Condoleezza Rice has been using also, as in "before 9/11 we weren't on a war footing," and every time I hear it I wonder WHY NOT?!!! How many warnings did they have to get before they paid attention? Rice and others have said they thought information about planes meant there would be "old fashioned" hijackings, and even for that they did NOTHING, but the Bushies keep talking about how concerned they were. I've never known any administration so unwilling to take responsibility for their actions (or inactions). To paraphrase and add to an opinion piece I read recently: Harry Truman said the buck stops here (Mr. Responsibility). The Bushies say the buck never got here (so, la la la it's not myyyyy fault la la la la la). Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:48:00 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC W's Press conference PC Debra writes: << That's the phrase Condoleezza Rice has been using also, as in "before 9/11 we weren't on a war footing," and every time I hear it I wonder WHY NOT?!!! How many warnings did they have to get before they paid attention? >> Look back to the news from July and August of 2001 and you'll see that the main "war footing" news then was the damned missile shield. Now I am no genius when it comes to world events or defense, but even *I* was saying, "Missile shield? What about terrorism?" We all *knew* it would be here eventually; therrorism had been in the Middle East, Europe and Japan. Everyone knew it was on its way to the US in some form. Cripes, bin Laden was even on the FBI's Top Ten list back then. It scares me that *I* was more perceptive about this situation than the administration, or did they know and not do anything because they wanted war? Specifically WAR WITH IRAQ? With such rampant stupidity at the top, is it really any wonder that people end up believing conspiracy theories and the like? - --Smurf, who's off to see the Alvin Ailey dance company with MY friend Deborah, who's a former Ailey dancer! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:30:44 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC Bob wrote: > As it has already been stated, we are spoiled in the US in > terms of fuel cost. I wonder sometimes how high the price will > have to climb before people change their CONSUMPTION habits. I > don't believe the average American has modified their > consumption in any way. The SUV's and guzzlers are still > selling in big numbers, people go where they want, when they > want, and just grumble at the pumps. And of course Bush and the GOP reward "businesses" who purchase huge SUVs that suck even more gas ... but going to war against Iraq had nothing to do with making U.S. oil companies rich ... yeah, right. Supply and demand, baby. http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/tax23_20030523.htm Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:22:04 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: A Free Joni Cover 4 U Let a gentle Joni cover chase away your post press-conference blues: http://www.rockacola.com/music/song.asp?song_no=25426 Chet Lam sings "A Case Of You". Actually pretty nice too, paying homage to Diana Krall's cover. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:18:36 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Tom Robbins > Debra Shea, > enjoying my Tom Robbinsing omg, Debra! I think you've just caused me to have a literary orgasm -- twice! : D Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: A Free Joni Cover 4 U OOOOOO i just "love" it when a guy from Hong-Kong sings "Oh Canada", as if it meant the world for him. When Joni does covers, at least she's got the sense to choose songs that their lyrics are something she can relate to, and mainly have a universal common denominator. I never heard Joni leech on someone else's "naked poetry". When others cover Joni's songs - well, at least those songs that came from her own life, meaning, those who are an 100% Joni's own experience - it just seems soooo phoney, it makes me wanna die. Nuriel SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: Let a gentle Joni cover chase away your post press-conference blues: http://www.rockacola.com/music/song.asp?song_no=25426 Chet Lam sings "A Case Of You". Actually pretty nice too, paying homage to Diana Krall's cover. Bob Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Instant Bliss An idea of what an "instant bliss" may be in a coffee shop context...from a Vegan essentials page on the net: ********************************* "Instant Bliss: A fantastic drink hot or cold, you can enjoy your chocolate and know that you're helping your complexion as well! Infused with skin-supporting cranberry seed oil for omega 3/6/9, blueberries, lutein, lycopene, beta-carotene and astaxanthin for their anti-oxidant properties, you can indulge in a low-calorie chocolate drink and get the benefits of radiant, youthful skin at the same time. Mix with frozen fruit for a fantastic smoothie, or blend with dairy-free milk and heat for a fantastic cup of hot chocolate!" Now i understand how Crosby's liver problems started... Love, Nuriel Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:57:42 -0500 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: A Free Joni Cover 4 U I don't recall if anyone mentioned this, but there is a Joni Mitchell cover in a Damien Rice show that was recently seeded through sharingthegroove.org. Looks like Lisa Hannigan sang an acappella version of Willy... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Kate bush and quitting the music biz -- NJC, really --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > Bobster writes: > > << So...since Joni spends the bulk of her time in > the USA, > > instead of Canada (with its maple leaf flag), does > that make > > her an ex-maple? >> > > I've got my money riding on the maple leafs. > > --Smurf I'm Maple-Leafed to death. Did I ever mention how much I really can't stand hockey? Do you know how much kitsch is generated when your local team is in some play-off or another? Why is the business of having flags sticking out the side of your car such a big thing of late? Is it over yet? Isn't it a bit late in the year for hockey? The frickin' ice has all melted! It's time to hit the beach! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:58:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC --- Lucy Hone wrote: > Frankly I think we should bung the cost of car fuel > sky high, plough > millions into the public transport system and make > is cheap... Better air > quality, less congestion and less road rage. > > Dream on Lucy!!! I know. > Right ON, sistah! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:00:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The huge posts about US politics and Iraq NJC --- tantra_apso wrote: > > What could be done, and should already ahve been > done, is developing a > different energy source.... > Right on to this, too, Colin. What is needed is a little imagination and some forward thinking. I still love the idea of a sail-car, however impractical it might be. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: NJC W's Press conference --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > It is a very emotional time, Kate. What's important > is that > we do as Vince has done, and channel the frustration > & > emotion into action. 2004 is all going to be about > voter > turnout. That's it. We have to convince people who > care (and > even those who may not) to vote, vote, vote. I've heard that voter turnout in the US tends to be really poor. Is this true? If so, why is that? > Speaking of the dead from this confrontation, I > found > this picture to be very moving: > > http://www.michaelmoore.com/ It is very touching; certainly brought tears to my eyes. > And I read the transcript of Bush's press conference > too, and > I'll give him this - he did a brilliant job of > connecting > 9/11 & Iraq, he made them seem interchangeable, as > if one was > actually an appropriate response to the other. > Whoever WROTE > HIS ANSWERS FOR HIM did a fine job. > Sadly, Bob, I believe a lot of people do connect these things and treat them as one and the same and that they might do this even without GWB's spin doctors, because it's too hard to imagine more than one enemy, or more than one horrendous event - they all must be connected in some people's minds and I believe the GWBs of the world play to that very well. I took the kids to Buffalo on Saturday and, while there, we passed a group of people standing in a sort of park-like thing where a few streets intersect. They were protesting the war. A few yards from them was one lone guy, an older man, not old enough to be a vet of WWII for example, but maybe Korea, or maybe no war at all. He held a sign that read, "No more peace groups." Not far from where he stood and marched, away from the group of mostly women, was a storefront with an American flag and a sign in the window - and I'm convinced this old guy was the one who owned it - that read, "Avenge September 11." ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:25:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC W's Press conference PC --- dsk wrote: > That aside, Bush was well coached for this press > conference. No smirks > this time. Botox injections! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:21:51 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC W's Press conference Catherine writes: << A few yards from them was one lone guy, an older man, not old enough to be a vet of WWII for example, but maybe Korea, or maybe no war at all. He held a sign that read, "No more peace groups." >> You and the kids should have beaten the ever lovin' crap out of the bastard. Peace, - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 02:04:08 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: April 16 On April 16 the following articles were published: 1998: "A concert for the Walden Woods Project" - Los Angeles Times (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=145 2000: "Stars Shine in Tribute to Joni Mitchell" - Arizona Republic (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=499 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:16:17 -0700 (PDT) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: RE: NJC W's Press conference >2004 is all going to be about voter > turnout. That's it. We have to convince people who care (and > even those who may not) to vote, vote, vote. i agree, its also about voting integrity... please see www.truemajority.org/ComputerAteMyVote & www.verifiedvoting.org please please please say prayers for all in iraq to be safe & sound... i can hardly breathe the news we here about what is happening there is so frightening ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #171 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)