From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #147 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 4 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 147 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC i could not have did it without his help [Catherine McKay ] viruses NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: viruses NJC [Ken ] Re: NJC speech ["Kate Bennett" ] Dylan & Victoria ["Kate Bennett" ] The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness ["Kate Bennett" ] Concert njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: big yellow taxi ["amelio747" ] Re: listening to Joni when sad ["amelio747" ] Re: Concert njc ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] Re: Concert njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness NJC this one [Emiliano ] Re: Concert njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: viruses NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] R Stone blows it with Joni again [Randy Remote ] Re:school bus drivers, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Wally's AOLwall, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: all this talk about language now....njc [Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC i could not have did it without his help --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/jbatchelor2 > > For lovers of misspelled words, misplaced commas, > grammatical errors, > improper capitalization, and misdirected divine > guidance. > > And of course...he's in the Carolinas. > This sounds like about 90% of the guys on the computer dating service I tried for a while. Now I realize how much better off I am being alone! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:35:27 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: viruses NJC On 3 Apr 2004, at 21:28, Wally Kairuz wrote: > so to finally get it right: you get the virus ONLY if you open the > attachment? if you get the message but you don't read it or if you > read it > but don't open the attachment, can you still get infected? There are still chances to get infected by previewing something in Outlook (Express)'s preview pane on systems that aren't fully patched and up to date. If I recall correctly, it's like this:- You get an HTML e-mail containing something nasty The HTML is previewed in Outlook using components of Internet Explorer Internet Explorer has flaws that allow scripts in HTML to do Bad Stuff You get infected... Stuff everyone should do:- Patch your systems fully (use Windows Update) Do this reglarly Use a Virus Scanner that will scan you e-mail as you download it. AOL users... trust AOL to do the right thing. Update this regularly (every time you're online up to once a day, or thereabouts) Use a personal firewall (I recommend and use ZoneAlarm) to stop anything that does manage to infect you from mailing loads of copies out to everyone you know With e-mail:- Even if it's from someone you know, or at least purports to be:- Is it something you're expecting? Does it *sound* like them? Does it reflect their general linguistic style? If it looks like everything's good, and they've still sent you, say, an executable file, check why, and still treat with caution! Silly games, greeting cards, screensavers et. al. may be cute, but are mainly just temporary diversions and quite often hide nasties, often without the sender (or your own virus scanner) knowing it. Might be worth digging out some standard boilerplate links to this sort of information and advice on the web: this subject comes up relatively often on here. - --Chris Marshall chrisATstryngs.com (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:46:41 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: viruses NJC I am not very tecno wise but it is my simple understanding that the virus comes in & plucks an address from your address book which is why you have all these random emails coming in from people you know but they did not actually send them... It doesn't mean you have the virus either (if you have protection that warns you of these viruses it, if you don't have protection its another story)... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:50:30 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: viruses NJC Unfortunately not any more. As I mentioned in my last post, via spyware and backdoor trojans you can be infected and not know it. As to your last post there are viruses and trojans that look for virus and spyware programs, such as Norton, and make changes to them so that they don't work properly. Wally Kairuz wrote: >so to finally get it right: you get the virus ONLY if you open the >attachment? if you get the message but you don't read it or if you read it >but don't open the attachment, can you still get infected? > >wally > >>-----Mensaje original----- >>De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Chris >>Marshall >>Enviado el: Sabado, 03 de Abril de 2004 04:40 p.m. >>Para: Garret >>CC: joni@smoe.org >>Asunto: Re: viruses NJC >> >> >>On 3 Apr 2004, at 10:57, Garret wrote: >> >>>I have been bombarded with emails with attachments lately all >>>containnig >>>viruses. Has there been an increase in this kind of thing? Friends, >>>strangers, >>>and people i have not thought about in years have all "sent" tyhem to >>>me, >>>including ivpaul42@aol.com, which seems rather random to me. >>> >>There's a bunch of worms doing the rounds at the moment which >>mail themselves, with a spoofed/fake sender e-mail address >>to people found in address books. >> >>So, let's say person A gets the worm, and person A is someone >>who's spoken to both person B and person C in the past. The >>worm tries to spread itself by e-mailing itself to people >>in person A's address book. In order to deflect attention >>away from person A, the worm purports to be from *someone >>else* in person A's address book, thus increasing the chances >>that the person really infected by the worm won't get told >>they've got it. >> >>Clever, no? >> >>And yes, there really has been a tangible increase in this >>kind of activity at the moment, aided and abetted by users' >>propensity to trust the sender of a message, and double click >>an attachment, even when the message text makes no sense, >>or is in very bad english, or is completely out of all context. >> >>Sigh... as usual... >> >>--Chris Marshall >> >>chrisATstryngs.com (AIM: Chr15Marshall) >> >>"If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" >> Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" >> Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:52:00 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: NJC speech >(Except people may say, as Les Ross pointed out, "I would *of* bought a yacht."< I think 'I would of' is the mispronunciation of the contraction 'I would've'' for I would have Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:00:22 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Dylan & Victoria >The following article, from today's Boston Globe, makes me wonder . . . what Joni tune(s) do you worry about turning up on TV ads? "Blue" for Tidee Bowl?< Oh gawd smurf that would be the lowest of low... For those of you who don't frequent VS, I was just in that store yesterday & they were playing a dylan song...then at the counter they had one of his cds for sale... this is the second one by an artist they sell in their store... the first was one by sting... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:13:10 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness Joni>Even if they're sung in the first person frequently they're portraits. So, a lot is written from identification, much of this historically. The truth is it's a portrait of a roommate of a friend of mine, a fellow that I paint with. But everything I write I identify with.< Joni is more self aware than many people including other songwriters (some of whom I have heard say 'I don't know where this song came from or what it means')... Telling a story from the first person perspective is a common form & often the most powerful... But I think most songwriters when writing a portrait of someone else, have an element of their own personal story within the portrait or they would not resonate emotionally enough to bother writing the song... So hooray to joni for acknowledging that! Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:23:30 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc Democrat of the year! >Other than 1. Do you love Joni Mitchell, what would be the other questions you want me to ask, political or nonpolitical, when I am having dinner with John Kerry?< Congratulations vince! Yes that first question is the most important of all! second to that I think you should give him some unsolicited advice! Lol... tell him that wethepeople out here really crave honesty from a politician... Forget the polls & telling people what they want to hear... He may loose some supporters by being honest but he will gain many more because of it... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:26:05 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Concert njc >Catherine, back from seeing Jonatha live in Ann Arbor with Sue Cameron, Yael, Brigitte, Terry, Karen and kate.< So where is the full report?! Sounds like a fun group... (the other jealous kate) Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:28:41 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: big yellow taxi Talking of Big Yellow...My sister called me earlier today and told me someone was doing a Joni song on TV! It was the kids version of Stars In Their Eyes (UK) which I usually detest but the girl who did "Big Yellow Taxi" I thought was really good! I noticed she was doing Joni's chords on the guitar too! She also managed the high and low bit at the end! She had to dress up as Joni which is what the show is about I guess (a bit naff) but all in all it was good to see more young people interested in Joni. Didn't watch the rest to see if she won! NP: Sisotowbell Lane * * * * * * Stephen T "I get the urge for going But I never seem to go" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Rizzo" To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: big yellow taxi > Hi all, > > I have been hearing Big Yellow Taxi by Counting Crows on my local "Soft Rock > Station" (just this morning again). And even tho it is not Joni singing, it > is so good to hear it. > > It is good to hear, "they paved paradise and they put up a parking lot. . . > why d'ya want to give it, why d'ya want to give it, why d'ya want to give it > all a way? . . " > > Sounds like he's talking about giving up the land AND giving up a lover's > relationship at the same time. > > Written with analogus intention. . . jonistyle > > Anyway. . . I am happy the song is being played on pop radio now. . . It > seems like kids growing up in the 80's and the 90's (on the Whole, based on > what I have seen) have grown up in this "throw away society." I like > having the song influence people and to teach them about preserving the > land. > > Land preservation is so important, I feel. > > Reminding others (for some, INTROducing the concept) of preservation (of > anything) is important. > > ps. At first I wrote "Big yellow tax." Which remeinds me that I have got to > get my taxes done! > Yikes. > > p.s. again, I know people who are bus drivers. Nowadays bus drivers drive > kids all over the place . . to their baby sitters. . to their jobs. to > activities. .. > > So the buses have become. "Big Yellow Taxi's." > Anyone know a school bus driver? I knew a whole bunch of them and have > found then to be nice down to earth people. > > conscious of my commas here. . . : -) > (I really don't want to over comma. . . seriously) > > enough with my tangents before breakfast. > > LOve Marianne > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:45:09 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: listening to Joni when sad I general I think most of the time Joni's music is comforting when you are sad and/or depressed though I've found there are many different stages/states of depression. I find Joni's music very healing a lot of the time. "River" is such a personal song and I feel a little better for hearing it. However music moves me much more when I'm in a happy mood. NP: The Arrangement (not the happiest of songs but beautiful one the less) * * * * * * Stephen T "I get the urge for going But I never seem to go" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb" To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:34 AM Subject: listening to Joni when sad > Hi, > Taking a little poll here. When you are depressed do you find Joni to be helpful or makes you go deeper into your depression? I have found that listening to the demo *It's all over now, Baby Blue*, her Dylan cover to just make those tears fall and fall. > Also, when I listen to Amelia, I just want to disappear. I guess I am best off listening to Joni when I am not soo depressed but just a little melancholy. Oh, and Man from Mars, I don't care if it is about a cat, it is unbearable. > > Debi - one big boo hoo > > > > **************************** > It's all a dream, She has awoke- Joni Mitchell > > **************************** > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:49:08 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Re: Concert njc >Catherine, back from seeing Jonatha live in Ann Arbor with Sue Cameron, Yael, Brigitte, Terry, Karen and kate.< \ what the fuck? That group gets together and no one calls me? For myself, I believe Jonatha Brooks is some fiction you all made up, but that group of people together - wow! That is creme de la creme! That is a quality gathering of JMDLers! I would have canceled everything to hang with that crowd! Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 19:17:07 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Concert njc --- "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" wrote: > >Catherine, back from seeing Jonatha live in Ann > Arbor > with Sue Cameron, Yael, Brigitte, Terry, Karen and > kate.< > \ > > what the fuck? That group gets together and no one > calls > me? > > For myself, I believe Jonatha Brooks is some fiction > you > all made up, but that group of people together - > wow! That > is creme de la creme! That is a quality gathering > of > JMDLers! I would have canceled everything to hang > with > that crowd! Holy crap, Vince! Do you know that it was only the day after that Sue and I realized that we could have and SHOULD have invited other Detroit-area jmdlers, like you and Gary Zack (and you know... there may be more!). I swear to God - we did think about you (even if it was too friggin' late.) Sue can attest that I even asked her if she had ever met you (she has) and that I asked her what you look like and everything! I would love to meet you! (Next time I go to Michigan, OK? It's a lot easier getting there than I thought and I gather you're not all that far from either Flint or Detroit?) The weird and wonderful thing for me about jmdlers is, in so many cases, where I meet one for the very first time, I feel as if I've known them before. We didn't get to hang with Yael and Birgitte (whose name I misspelled in my previous post) for very long. Yael was helping out with sound at The Ark (Yael usually does do the sound, but Jonatha has her own sound people). P.S. Jonatha Brooke is a real person - check out her website at www.jonathabrooke.com ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 02:24:39 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: The woman in Sunny Sunday, Joni and madness NJC this one Hi, Nuriel, Bob! I feel it this way, too. >> **I do believe that Joni really loves strange human creaturs. > > > I think that Joni takes that an extra step and sees... (continues below) Please, each and everyone of us is a strange human creature, yes! thanks! People denying it, pretending, refusing to look at it... it feels like losing life, like peace (if only) but without love... We're humans, we make our lives on the deliquate balance (this wondrous time that it's now, and Who Knows Where The Time Goes?) so while we're on it, what better than take a look, write a poem, about one of "these" dark, *deep*, danger times. You know they say Quien Canta Su Mal Espanta (who sings, throws his/her evil/bad away :-) I mean, one can feel, at some frequent moments, like one character from Virginia Wolf's novels and fortunately IMO keeping the helm, the reason's domain... at least for carry on And you remember that Anna Karenina's beginning: "happy families doesn't have history... " (I don't need to translate the rest) the chinese say "Take care of interesting times!" well, that's enough for me, for now Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Listen To The Lion, Van, Montreux '80 > that we are ALL strange, > troubled, flawed in some way. And it's the flaws, rather than the perfections, > that bind us together. > > "Just when I think he's foolish & childish, and I want him to be manly, I > catch *my fool* and *my child* needing love and understanding." > > Bob > > NP: Nellie McKay, "Toto Dies" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 16:30:18 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Concert njc Psst vince.... Maybe it was kind of a sugarpants thing... Maybe you need to talk with smurf... :~} >Catherine, back from seeing Jonatha live in Ann Arbor with Sue Cameron, Yael, Brigitte, Terry, Karen and kate.< \ > I would have canceled everything to hang with that crowd! Vince< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 19:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Concert njc --- Kate Bennett wrote: > >Catherine, back from seeing Jonatha live in Ann > Arbor > with Sue Cameron, Yael, Brigitte, Terry, Karen and > kate.< > > So where is the full report?! Sounds like a fun > group... > (the other jealous kate > OK, here ya go. I drove down to the Detroit area on Thursday and stayed with Sue C. We had arranged to see Jonatha Brooke at The Ark in Ann Arbor on Thursday, April 1. We met Terry (who hasn't posted for a long time), and Terry's daughter Kate and Kate's friend Karen. Kate and Karen kindly held places in line, while Terry, Sue and I went for a beer and some dinner (OK, Sue and I ate and guzzled beer - Terry had already eaten, but we shared comfort and conversation). We were the first ones into The Ark when the doors opened, and Yael had saved us some seats right up near the front. We also got to meet Yael's friend Birgitte, who is a sweetheart just like Yael. Jonatha was great. She performed songs from her whole repertoire from The Story days up to "Back in the circus", her most recent release. I haven't bought "Back in the Circus" yet and reviews here on the list have been mixed. I've heard the title song and snippets of some of the others and was totally enthralled with the production, which, from what I've heard, I find somewhat lacking in passion. However, Jonatha live is really something to see and hear. And her band are all very talented. Even though Jonatha named them and thanked them quite a few times, I'm sorry to say I don't remember all their names. There was a young woman with a name that sounded like Anne Marie Melozzo on keyboards, clarinet, guitar, vocals and tambourine; a very talented young man, whose name I didn't catch, on drums (I'll take real drums over synth drums any day); a bass player and an electric guitar player. Like Joni, Jonatha is also a good storyteller. She sang one of my favourites, "So much mine" as an encore and the story she told about it brought tears to my eyes and Sue's - I guess it has something to do with being parents. Jonatha said that she was working as a nanny for a couple of little girls whose favourite story and movie was "The Wizard of Oz". After finishing work as a nanny, she would go to dance classes in a grungy part of town, where she would see young girls, only a year or two older than these little ones she was caring for, walking the streets. She also sang an unreleased song that she wrote for a movie about a young man with AIDS who has been estranged from his parents because of his "lifestyle." The song is called "Deny" and it wasn't used for the movie but is very powerful - another real tear-jerker. I do hope Jonatha puts this out on a disc at some point. I would certainly encourage anyone to check out Jonatha's music at www.jonathabrooke.com and, if you get a chance, go and see her live. She really is very good. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 20:18:08 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: viruses NJC Wally writes: << if you get the message but you don't read it or if you read it but don't open the attachment, can you still get infected? >> Not if you're wearing a condom, poopsie. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:43:52 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: R Stone blows it with Joni again The new issue of Rolling Stone is "Celebrating the 50th Anniversary of Rock" (1954? huh?) and their feature article "The Immortals" lists the 50 "most important performers in rock & roll history". As you can probably guess by now, Joni was not one of the 50. To be fair to RS, they did not make the list, they selected a panel of 55 or so musicians, industry pundits, etc to vote, and had it tabulated by an accounting firm. They pared down 125 candidates to 50 "immortals", and there are plenty of obvious choices, Beatles, Hendrix, Dylan, Stones. But how did Madonna beat out Joni? Will Jerry Lee Lewis or The Clash or even Elton John be recognized in future generations as coming anywhere near Joni's artistic achievement? U2 more important than Pink Floyd (who weren't included)? Bo Diddley more than The Grateful Dead or Crosby Stills and Nash? Patty Smith is a great poet, but couldn't sing a note (to paraphrase Jon Lovitz) if she had Billie Holiday stuck in her throat. Fats Domino, The Ramones, Michael Jackson, and The Velvet Underground have all made their contributions, but I would trade them all for X. As you can tell, I'm mortified and outraged! Okay, not really, I don't care all that much. But not having Joni on that list really gets my panties in a bunch. RR Read the article here http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2846 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 21:58:22 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re:school bus drivers, njc An inquisitive person wrote: Anyone know a school bus driver? I knew a whole bunch of them and have found then to be nice down to earth people. Yeah, met one in Wal-Mart some how, in the women's clothes. When I found out what they did, I immediately got interested in them and asked them how they got the job because it has always been a dream of mine to drive a school bus. So, they told me all about what it takes, etc. We talked for a long long time. Added some reality to my dream, but it is still just a dream. I have to learn how to drive more safely first and wait for the right time. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:08:33 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Wally's AOLwall, njc Smurf wrote: December and I didn't get his posts then. What's up with that? Only God and AOL know. Azeem? Laura? BobSart? Have you been able to get Wally's posts? Do you care? Hi Bob, Yes, I get Wally's posts no problemo. I don't have AOL mail controls set up on this particular screen name. I do have another screen name that has the controls set up, and I have had all kinds of problems receiving Email there even if I have the sender added to the list of people from whom I can receive. It is nice to have a spam-free address, but it isn't of much use to me when it isn't reliable for receiving posts from friends. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:31:45 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: all this talk about language now....njc I agree with your basic view of the situation, and you expressed in very eloquently. Lucy Hone wrote: > Iraq will drag on for years. I hope not > It was not about Saddam, it is about oil. America > knew that, Britain knew that. it is also about arms, and labour. It is also about strategic positioning in this region, and future expansion. > Britain and America (and the other countries who are in this conflict too) > will continue to lose young men and women and (whilst it is a terrible thing > to happen) they will be butchered and hung up... I would just add that the Iraqi causalties, mostly civilian, outnumber the US & British by about 100 to 1. So it's not like the assault on other nationalities is a thing of the past that we are paying for. We're still doing it. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:34:48 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: CBC Radio preview of Krall's new CD - April 6 (SJC) michael o'malley wrote: > Dianna Krall's latest CD, The Girl in the Other Room, > track listing: > > 8. "Black Crow" (Joni Mitchell) Thanks for posting this. Has she done this one in concert before? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:40:32 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: In 30 years, NJC Smurf wrote: Ten or thirty years from now Bush and those of his ilk will generally look as foolish and hateful for their actions as George Wallace now looks for what he did in the 60s. Hi Bob, Perhaps even better, thirty years from now, Bush will be forgotten just like George Wallace is forgotten now by the kids of this generation. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:43:34 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: (NJC) Could there be any worse song/album than this? I watched the history of Paul & Linda's band, Wings (WINGSPAN). Paul got busted for marijuana in the UK. When he applied for a visa to visit Japan for a tour about a year later, he was denied because of his marijuana conviction. They took pot very seriously in Japan in the 70s. A year or two later, he applied again, again to bring a tour through. The second time, they gave him the visa. Paul was totally stupid to carry grass in his bag, given this kind of history. He admitted it himself in WINGSPAN. It's too bad put such a thing in a bio. In my account of the 70s, Yoko got painted with "the Other" brush far too often. She is a peacenik, not a hawk. Remember 'give peace a chance?' That doesn't come from a hate-filled mind. Mrs. Lennon is welcome for supper in Covington anytime. I agree about "Temporary Secretary" though. My sweet Lord, how could the guy who wrote "Yesterday", "Hey Jude", & "Maybe I'm Amazed" come up with stuff like "The Doggone Girl Is Mine?" What was he thinking? Maybe the better question was 'what was he smoking?' but of course we all know. Kids, if you don't want to write embarrassing drivel, don't do drugs. taking a break from building bass traps, Jim David Sadowski said, >Marijuana- he got busted for it shortly after putting this out, and spent a week in a Japanese jail. One Lennon bio claims that Yoko told the Japanese police that he would be carrying.> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:12:46 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: retaliation, NJC A wise philosopher wrote: Certainly we have tried to do a lot of good as a nation, but we have harmed others too. Yes, let's ask the question. Why the retaliation? This is a good, thought provoking question. Retaliation... to return injury for injury. We have a priest from Nigeria here. He has expressed anger toward our country because it comes into small countries and uses up their resources. But, it seems there is also a prejudice toward our country for women having more rights. There appears to be a mix of motives behind the "retaliation." One is that we have actually caused injury through our wanting more and bigger material gains, and another is that we are perceived as injurious or dangerous because of our ideas and practices regarding the equality of women. The people who were behind the 9-11 events were religious fundamentalists. So regardless of the perhaps justifiable reasons for wanting destruction to come to the USA, there were also reasons that were very unhealthy. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:27:59 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: radical righties njc Emiliano wrote: But, I always think "radical", really, is someone who goes to the core of it, to the "radice" (root) to really understand state of things Hi Emiliano, I have the same understanding of the word radical... rooted. Perhaps "fundamentalist" righties would be better nomenclature. Fundamentalism is the practice of taking one small part of a philosophy and elevating it and acting on it intensely which leads to grandiosity, exclusion, and opression in an attempt to get others to conform. Integration of cultures, races, religions, etc. is pretty much impossible for fundamentalists. On the other hand radical people are more able to accept differences because they are rooted in their own beliefs, secure, and don't have a need to justify their beliefs by imposing them on others. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 23:44:03 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: NJC New Laura Nyro Release Coming Soon From lauranyro.com: "The 1970 Fillmore East concert release by Sony, "Live at the Fillmore," is due out soon. Never before released, it contains a few cuts that have not appeared on any other album previously: "Spread Your Wings and Fly," "Streets of Calico," and "Mother Earth" are originals while "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing" and "Natural Woman" are wonderfully interpreted by Laura. Once again, as information becomes available, you will have it." I thought our Laura fans out there would like to know about this - needless to say I'm very excited about it. No specific release date was announced, except for "soon" as stated from her website above. Best, Gary Detroit ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #147 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)