From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #139 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 31 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 139 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Re: Fact NJC PC ["Kakki" ] ISO: artwork for Joni Mitchell - Off the record (2CD) ["Peter Glienke" ] Re: njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Jonatha's Latest CD (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ISO: artwork for Joni Mitchell - Off the record (2CD) [SCJoniGuy@aol.] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech [Jerr] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech [Deb ] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech [Stev] Re: Correction: Not Indigo Girls [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech [Jerr] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech [Jerr] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves aboutspeech [Steve] Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech [Jerr] Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Cutting Up Travelogue [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Cutting Up Travelogue -- NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: (NJC) Top 10 Bush Lies (PC) [Lori Fye ] Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? [Gary Zack ] Joni blowing my mind again ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? ["rflynn@frontiernet.net" ] "clouds" is excellent! ["anon anon" ] Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "clouds" is excellent! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni blowing my mind again ["amelio747" ] Toby Lightman on Conan tonight (JM mention) [Lori Fye ] RE: drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" <] Junkies Coming Soon, njc [] RE: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! NJC [Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Re: Fact NJC PC Mary wrote: > Ah, yes--but where does one draw the line? Fairness? When spin becomes slander and libel and unfounded accusations? > My point was, and is, that the difference between "fact" and "interpretation" can sometimes become very, very blurred. It's blurred more often than not in my experience. >Also, sometimes apparently neutral words can be loaded or nuanced, as some of those writing after me have pointed out. Some people don't get nuance and sometimes words that are meant as neutral from one are taken as inflammatory from another. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:28:28 +0200 From: "Peter Glienke" Subject: ISO: artwork for Joni Mitchell - Off the record (2CD) Hi all, I4m searching for trackinfo4s and artwork for the 2CD-set "Off the record". Anyone could help me out and point it to me? Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:35:18 +1000 From: "don whiteman" Subject: [none] Hi All, I am back on deck after having surgery. I now have only one funnybone (on my right handside) left. The tingling and numbness in my little and ring fingers of my left hand are not as bad as they were but still thers sometimes. It is only 5 weeks since surgery but already I am back at work and have just returned from 6 days in Central Australia at an observing faciity where I had 5 magnificent nights under the most beautiful southern skies playing with telescopes (some peoples jobs are good hey) Any way I have started to play my guitar again after nearly 3 months of sitting there watching it in the corner on a stand and only being able to polish it. I can at least play for 30 minutes before it gets a little sore. I go back for my 6 week check up this coming Thursday and I hope he says it will improve even more. At this stage I have no regrets for choosing the path I did with this. I did want to wait until I return from the US in May but it would have been much worse by then. So now I am getting ready for this years trip to LA for our conference and workshop down in Irvine. And Paz I will try to catch up with Kakki when I'm there. I will email her offline. Hoping to buy myself a Little Martin Guitar as a baby traveling companion whilst in LA. Don Sydney Australia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:49:21 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc --- don whiteman wrote: > Hi All, > > I am back on deck after having surgery. ... > At this stage I have no regrets for choosing the > path I did with this. Don, that is good to hear. Best of luck for continued improvement! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:22:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonatha's Latest CD (NJC) **I am completely underwhelmed by this. ** Glad I wasn't the first to say it, because I was going to keep my trap shut. But now that the cat is out of the bag, I will admit that I think it really sucks. Wow, I couldn't believe how bad it was. Thank God I could stream it on the net and hear it before I bought it, which I surely would have done as I have and love every other thing she's done, including her work with The Story. But she's really tanked with this one. Where are the interesting melodic twists? The depth of lyric? And let's face it, when you do a cover of "Fire & Rain" or an Alan Parsons song, it's safe to say that the old idea well has run dry. Hopefully, she can do the Phoenix-thang next time around, but I for one will approach her future work with much caution. Bob NP: Norah Jones latest ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:24:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: ISO: artwork for Joni Mitchell - Off the record (2CD) Hiya Peter, I assembled that collection, but I didn't do any artwork for it, save for the Neato labels for the discs and the text-only inserts, which I'm happy to send to you if you like. Hope you're enjoying the compliations. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:11:02 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech Mine: 1. Less calories. 2. Heigth. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:40:28 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech "Less calories" drives me bananas. My local grocery store has special lines for "10 items or fewer," and for that alone I love them! One of my pet peeves is "I feel badly." To help people remember that "feel bad" is correct, I tell them to think of the songs "I Feel Pretty" and "I Feel Good." At 08:11 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Mine: >1. Less calories. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:07:58 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech Shouldn't this have been labeled 'Words We Usually Mispell'? :-P Steve At 08:11 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, Jerry Notaro wrote: >Mine: > > >1. Less calories. > >2. Heigth. > >Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:20:40 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Correction: Not Indigo Girls Hiya Tim, Your timing could not be better...That MOST EXCELLENT cover of Tea Leaf Prophecy is on Volume 51, just days away from being announced. And their cover is one of the few that (for me) improves upon Joni's recording of it. (Gasp! Crucify him! Give us Barrabas!) Of course, it's all opinion...but their rendition captures the essence of the song and the difference in their voices makes for a nice contrast as opposed to Joni's overdubs of her own voice. Plus the CMIARS version suffers (as does the whole record) with that lousy late-80's muddy-synth production. I still don't think it's a great song...and the Williamson- Near version exposes the stripped-down weaknesses of it (weak compared to Joni's typical composition). But in the context of Joni covers, it's a real breakthrough for American artists to acknowledge her 80's work. Bob NP: Prince, "fascination" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:35:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech Since the word doesn't exist, how can it be misspelled? > Shouldn't this have been labeled 'Words We Usually Mispell'? > > :-P > Steve > > > At 08:11 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, Jerry Notaro wrote: >> Mine: >> >> >> 1. Less calories. >> >> 2. Heigth. >> >> Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:37:55 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech Diet ads are the worst offender. A new one reads: Less calories. Fewer carbs. Even worse!!!!!!!!!!!!! > "Less calories" drives me bananas. My local grocery store has special > lines for "10 items or fewer," and for that alone I love them! > > One of my pet peeves is "I feel badly." To help people remember that "feel > bad" is correct, I tell them to think of the songs "I Feel Pretty" and "I > Feel Good." > > > > At 08:11 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: >> Mine: >> 1. Less calories. >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > messling@enter.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:40:22 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves aboutspeech Weren't you spelling 'height'??? Steve At 09:35 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, Jerry Notaro wrote: > Since the word doesn't exist, how can it be misspelled? > >> Shouldn't this have been labeled 'Words We Usually Mispell'? >> >> :-P >> Steve >> >> >> At 08:11 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, Jerry Notaro wrote: >>> Mine: >>> >>> >>> 1. Less calories. >>> >>> 2. Heigth. >>> >>> Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:48:44 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: words we usually mispronounce njc - and pet peeves about speech > Weren't you spelling 'height'??? > Steve No. I was spelling the mispronunciation of it. Because so many put the two word width and height together in the same phrase, it often gets mispronounced as heigth. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:23:48 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? From this so called encyclopedia site comes: http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPagesM/mitchell_joni.html "Fellow folk-singer Chuck Mitchell offered to take the two in, marrying Anderson, but the allure of success and Anderson's age convinced Mitchell to give the girl up for adoption. " This is English ? First, it's not exactly Joni's version. Where did they get their "facts"? Also, the juxtaposition of "Anderson" and "Mitchell" at the end is ironic, it seems to me. (As in, "Joni thinks to herself 'I wanna be a star, and I was young and Anderson when I had the baby, so now that I'm married and Mitchell to this well known folk singer, I guess I'll give the girl up for adoption". Or was it Chuck who gave the baby up for adoption ? Is there anywhere else where it is written that Chuck Mitchell offered to take the two in ? Also, "With frequent commutes to visit friend David Geffen, Mitchell was able to go back to the stage opening for the likes of Geffen's Asylum records success story Jackson Browne and onward to her own tours of Europe and playing benefit concerts for presidential hopeful George McGovern. " Well, I saw the Carnegie Hall concert in 1972, and I assure you that Jackson opened for Joni, not vice versa. By the way, this is a badly flawed sentence (it is missing a comma after 'stage', and is missing a participle before 'onward' (I might suggesst replacing 'and' with a comma, to be followed by the words "continuing onward with" instead of 'to'). Next, "Mitchell soon began seeking out musicians who could help her grow musically and speak the musical language that her odd guitar tunings and eccentric rhythms. " Well, I'm no English professor, but that looks like an incomplete sentence to me. A symptom of the lack of care taken to write this piece, IMO. Then, "Recording commenced in 1975 and after a series of successive demo sessions, Mitchell re-assembled most of the key players from 'Court And Spark' for the November release 'The Hissing Of Summer Lawns'." 'A series of succesive demo sessions' ? Editor ! Next: "The tour began in January 1976 and took her all across the US and Canada. As the tour wound down, she split up with John Guerin and instead spent time hanging around with Neil Young." Even if the time she spent with Neil was a "fact" (there is confirmation of this around ?), I find the word "instead" to be rather hilarious. Then finally: "Mitchell continues releasing solo album after solo album and was asked in 1996 to go back through her extensive catalogue and chose the best of her repertoire according to their hit status and then assemble a second disc with tunes she felt were overlooked. The result was Reprise's "Hits & Misses" collection " The first sentence is a run on sentence of such pain that it would make any self-respecting fifth grade teacher cringe were it not for the comic relief provided by the changes of tense within it. Of course, the second sentence should end with a period, but that is barely noticeable in context. Thank goodness for "encyclopedias". Interesting ? Well, it grabbed my attention, but not for the Joni content. Bobsart (concerned that the word "Canadian" could be construed as pejorative in this context) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:31:31 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Cutting Up Travelogue Murphy wrote: "Subject: JONI MITCHELL HANDWRITTEN SONG LIST FOR TRAVELOGUE (2002) I never go to eBay anymore, but I got an eBay popup tonight and decided to check out what the most expensive Joni item is. Hurry! Just 13 hours to meet the starting bid of $2,225.00. Hey, Bob Sart! Buy it and you can cut up the list and rearrange the songs any way you like! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3805684888&category=210" Well, if I wanted to cut up the list, and was gonna spend $2,250, I would certainly call in a cut up artist like Murphy rather than entrust such a task to an amateur like myself. ;-) bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:33:55 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Cutting Up Travelogue -- NJC Bob S. writes: << Well, if I wanted to cut up the list, and was gonna spend $2,250, I would certainly call in a cut up artist like Murphy rather than entrust such a task to an amateur like myself. ;-) >> It takes a wise man to recognize a wise guy, Bob! - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:44:44 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Top 10 Bush Lies (PC) > Lori, you've gotten such a lot of mileage out of that > one, it might ACTUALLY be a shame when he loses. (Ever > the optimistic one.) This one is my favorite, from the Bush I years -- I saw it on a banner at a gay rights rally in Austin, Texas: "Wrong kind of bush in the White House." ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:16:20 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? I certainly noticed how flawed this page was too Bob. That's part of the reason I found it "interesting." As far as Canadian goes, my understanding is that www.canoe.ca originates from Canada, therefore a "Canadian" site. I thought the "Anderson"/"Mitchell" references were quite "off" too. I thought the scrapped live album and "singles" list were probably the parts of most value, if correct of course. Gary Bobsart48@aol.com wrote: >>From this so called encyclopedia site comes: >http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPagesM/mitchell_joni.html >"Fellow folk-singer Chuck Mitchell offered to take the two in, marrying >Anderson, but the allure of success and Anderson's age convinced Mitchell to give >the girl up for adoption. " > >This is English ? First, it's not exactly Joni's version. Where did they get >their "facts"? Also, the juxtaposition of "Anderson" and "Mitchell" at the end >is ironic, it seems to me. (As in, "Joni thinks to herself 'I wanna be a >star, and I was young and Anderson when I had the baby, so now that I'm married >and Mitchell to this well known folk singer, I guess I'll give the girl up for >adoption". Or was it Chuck who gave the baby up for adoption ? > >Is there anywhere else where it is written that Chuck Mitchell offered to >take the two in ? > >Also, > >"With frequent commutes to visit friend David Geffen, Mitchell was able to go >back to the stage opening for the likes of Geffen's Asylum records success >story Jackson Browne and onward to her own tours of Europe and playing benefit >concerts for presidential hopeful George McGovern. " > >Well, I saw the Carnegie Hall concert in 1972, and I assure you that Jackson >opened for Joni, not vice versa. By the way, this is a badly flawed sentence >(it is missing a comma after 'stage', and is missing a participle before >'onward' (I might suggesst replacing 'and' with a comma, to be followed by the words >"continuing onward with" instead of 'to'). > >Next, > >"Mitchell soon began seeking out musicians who could help her grow musically >and speak the musical language that her odd guitar tunings and eccentric >rhythms. " > >Well, I'm no English professor, but that looks like an incomplete sentence to >me. A symptom of the lack of care taken to write this piece, IMO. > >Then, > >"Recording commenced in 1975 and after a series of successive demo sessions, >Mitchell re-assembled most of the key players from 'Court And Spark' for the >November release 'The Hissing Of Summer Lawns'." > >'A series of succesive demo sessions' ? Editor ! > >Next: > >"The tour began in January 1976 and took her all across the US and Canada. As >the tour wound down, she split up with John Guerin and instead spent time >hanging around with Neil Young." > >Even if the time she spent with Neil was a "fact" (there is confirmation of >this around ?), I find the word "instead" to be rather hilarious. > >Then finally: > >"Mitchell continues releasing solo album after solo album and was asked in >1996 to go back through her extensive catalogue and chose the best of her >repertoire according to their hit status and then assemble a second disc with tunes >she felt were overlooked. The result was Reprise's "Hits & Misses" collection " > >The first sentence is a run on sentence of such pain that it would make any >self-respecting fifth grade teacher cringe were it not for the comic relief >provided by the changes of tense within it. Of course, the second sentence should >end with a period, but that is barely noticeable in context. > >Thank goodness for "encyclopedias". Interesting ? Well, it grabbed my >attention, but not for the Joni content. > >Bobsart (concerned that the word "Canadian" could be construed as pejorative >in this context) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:44:48 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's French ancestry (if any) **So, Mueller . . . have any Joni songs ever been translated into French and then covered? ** Yes - Both Sides Now, by Nana Mouskori & also by Marie LaForet. Very pretty with much rrrrrrolling of the r's. I just got a sweet cover of Man from Mars by a French jazz artist including vocal, but alas it's sung in English. Volume 51 also contains some nice work by French singer/songwriter Joni interpreter Thierry Antoine (who goes by Yoghill), and though he sings with a strong accent he sings the English lyric. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:24:24 -0500 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? This is certainly a bizarre quotation from the piece: "In 1969, Mitchell released 'Clouds' which included her versions of previous hit material she had donated to other artists." It doesn't include any "hits" other than BSN and "Chelsea Morning." The singles discography is obviously incomplete as it omits "You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio b/w Urge for Going" a single that I still own and was, until HITS the only source for "Urge." Is there a singles discography? I can't find one on JMDL.COM or JONIMITCHELL.COM Quoting Gary Zack : > I certainly noticed how flawed this page was too Bob. That's part of > the reason I found it "interesting." As far as Canadian goes, my > understanding is that www.canoe.ca originates from > Canada, therefore a "Canadian" site. I thought the > "Anderson"/"Mitchell" > references were quite "off" too. I thought the scrapped live album > and > "singles" list were probably the parts of most value, if correct of > course. > > Gary > > > Bobsart48@aol.com wrote: > > >>From this so called encyclopedia site comes: > >http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPagesM/mitchell_joni.html > >"Fellow folk-singer Chuck Mitchell offered to take the two in, > marrying > >Anderson, but the allure of success and Anderson's age convinced > Mitchell to give > >the girl up for adoption. " > > > >This is English ? First, it's not exactly Joni's version. Where did > they get > >their "facts"? Also, the juxtaposition of "Anderson" and "Mitchell" > at the end > >is ironic, it seems to me. (As in, "Joni thinks to herself 'I wanna > be a > >star, and I was young and Anderson when I had the baby, so now that > I'm married > >and Mitchell to this well known folk singer, I guess I'll give the > girl up for > >adoption". Or was it Chuck who gave the baby up for adoption ? > > > >Is there anywhere else where it is written that Chuck Mitchell > offered to > >take the two in ? > > > >Also, > > > >"With frequent commutes to visit friend David Geffen, Mitchell was > able to go > >back to the stage opening for the likes of Geffen's Asylum records > success > >story Jackson Browne and onward to her own tours of Europe and > playing benefit > >concerts for presidential hopeful George McGovern. " > > > >Well, I saw the Carnegie Hall concert in 1972, and I assure you that > Jackson > >opened for Joni, not vice versa. By the way, this is a badly flawed > sentence > >(it is missing a comma after 'stage', and is missing a participle > before > >'onward' (I might suggesst replacing 'and' with a comma, to be > followed by the words > >"continuing onward with" instead of 'to'). > > > >Next, > > > >"Mitchell soon began seeking out musicians who could help her grow > musically > >and speak the musical language that her odd guitar tunings and > eccentric > >rhythms. " > > > >Well, I'm no English professor, but that looks like an incomplete > sentence to > >me. A symptom of the lack of care taken to write this piece, IMO. > > > >Then, > > > >"Recording commenced in 1975 and after a series of successive demo > sessions, > >Mitchell re-assembled most of the key players from 'Court And Spark' > for the > >November release 'The Hissing Of Summer Lawns'." > > > >'A series of succesive demo sessions' ? Editor ! > > > >Next: > > > >"The tour began in January 1976 and took her all across the US and > Canada. As > >the tour wound down, she split up with John Guerin and instead spent > time > >hanging around with Neil Young." > > > >Even if the time she spent with Neil was a "fact" (there is > confirmation of > >this around ?), I find the word "instead" to be rather hilarious. > > > >Then finally: > > > >"Mitchell continues releasing solo album after solo album and was > asked in > >1996 to go back through her extensive catalogue and chose the best > of her > >repertoire according to their hit status and then assemble a second > disc with tunes > >she felt were overlooked. The result was Reprise's "Hits & Misses" > collection " > > > >The first sentence is a run on sentence of such pain that it would > make any > >self-respecting fifth grade teacher cringe were it not for the comic > relief > >provided by the changes of tense within it. Of course, the second > sentence should > >end with a period, but that is barely noticeable in context. > > > >Thank goodness for "encyclopedias". Interesting ? Well, it grabbed > my > >attention, but not for the Joni content. > > > >Bobsart (concerned that the word "Canadian" could be construed as > pejorative > >in this context) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:25:17 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Glad you are on the rebound, Don, and I hope you get many hours of satisfaction from your guitar. Now you will have to watch twice as many comedy movies since you are missing one of your funnybones. (Sorry-best wishes on a continued recovery). RR don whiteman wrote: > Hi All, > > I am back on deck after having surgery. I now have only one funnybone (on my > right handside) left. The tingling and numbness in my little and ring > fingers of my left hand are not as bad as they were but still thers > s ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:30:21 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Joni blowing my mind again Hi everyone, I'm having another one of those moments when I'm listening to Joni at work, and am in awe again. From an artist's viewpoint, one has to think about longevity and keeping a fan base. Does Joni have us or what?! Listening to her music on a melancholly day, I see her very clearly as a success story in the music industry. I am getting a first hand view on what it takes to be a viable and long lasting artist and I am just blown away with what she has written, produced and recorded. I am competely awestruck right now. When I listen to her music, I have a sense of connection and belonging. I feel what she is singing and the chords she is producing. They touch a part of my heart that most people pretend does not exist. There is a depth you enter into when listening that seems to go over most people's heads. When I listen to Joni's music, it reaffirms who I am as a singer/songwriter and let's me know that even if I have to stand on a street corner, I must sing. There are very few artists that evoke such emotions in their listeners. Joni will forever be someone special to me for doing that. Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:47:35 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? Neither site addresses her singles or EP's, Richard. I've seen a website that has a pretty decent listing of them, even features the picture sleeves, but I can't find it right now. Bob NP: Prince, "Jam Of The Year" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:53:44 -0500 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? There is this page on our own beloved web site: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=901 Quoting SCJoniGuy@aol.com: > JONIMITCHELL.COM> > > Neither site addresses her singles or EP's, Richard. I've seen > a website that has a pretty decent listing of them, even > features the picture sleeves, but I can't find it right now. > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "Jam Of The Year" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:08:47 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Joni blowing my mind again >>even if I have to stand on a street corner, I must sing. Sherelle, you didn't say which song/album you were listening too. Could the song be "For Free"?? And if so which version? db >>> "Sherelle Smith" 3/30/2004 2:30:21 PM >>> Hi everyone, I'm having another one of those moments when I'm listening to Joni at work, and am in awe again. From an artist's viewpoint, one has to think about longevity and keeping a fan base. Does Joni have us or what?! Listening to her music on a melancholly day, I see her very clearly as a success story in the music industry. I am getting a first hand view on what it takes to be a viable and long lasting artist and I am just blown away with what she has written, produced and recorded. I am competely awestruck right now. When I listen to her music, I have a sense of connection and belonging. I feel what she is singing and the chords she is producing. They touch a part of my heart that most people pretend does not exist. There is a depth you enter into when listening that seems to go over most people's heads. When I listen to Joni's music, it reaffirms who I am as a singer/songwriter and let's me know that There are very few artists that evoke such emotions in their listeners. Joni will forever be someone special to me for doing that. Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:03:42 -0500 From: "anon anon" Subject: "clouds" is excellent! The more I listen to "clouds" the more I realize what an excellent album it is.It seems to me a very "spring" album.when I listen to it,I can hear the purity,the freshness,the innocence,I can picture a lazy,sunny spring day at a summer camp or some other beautiful outdoorsy place...It doesn't have the complexity or sadness of "Hejira" which helps me connect more to my sorrow and confusion. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:12:24 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? Hey, that's a pretty cool resource, Richard. I'd not seen it before. Some nice pics too! Bob NP: Prince, "Betcha By Golly Wow" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:51:46 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "clouds" is excellent! I can certainly relate to this as the first really good listen I gave to it, the first time I was really wowed by it, was on the deck at the beach. I was just kicked back about mid-morning, with a cup o' java, and I think I rewound the tape a couple of times to replay it. Whenever I hear it, I'm transported back to that beachhouse deck on that warm summer morning. Bob NP: Prince, "Sex In The Summer" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:58:39 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: Joni blowing my mind again Sharelle, Firstly, what a beautiful email! I know exactly what you are talking about as I'm sure most on the list do, but you couldn't have put it into word any better. I also got that really strong feeling tonight while listening to my mix CD of some of my favourite Joni songs...I've slowly come to appreciate HEJIRA since first hearing it about 3 and a half years ago and I've always loved the mood/theme and lyrics to "Song For Sharon", but tonight it hit me with such power and I really got the whole thing musically! It really is one of those epic songs, but like none I've ever heard. NP: "Cactus Tree" (MOI) (...don't even get me started on this one!) * * * * * * Stephen T "I get the urge for going But I never seem to go" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherelle Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: Joni blowing my mind again > Hi everyone, > > I'm having another one of those moments when I'm listening to Joni at work, > and am in awe again. From an artist's viewpoint, one has to think about > longevity and keeping a fan base. Does Joni have us or what?! Listening to > her music on a melancholly day, I see her very clearly as a success story in > the music industry. I am getting a first hand view on what it takes to be a > viable and long lasting artist and I am just blown away with what she has > written, produced and recorded. I am competely awestruck right now. When I > listen to her music, I have a sense of connection and belonging. I feel what > she is singing and the chords she is producing. They touch a part of my > heart that most people pretend does not exist. There is a depth you enter > into when listening that seems to go over most people's heads. When I listen > to Joni's music, it reaffirms who I am as a singer/songwriter and let's me > know that even if I have to stand on a street corner, I must sing. There are > very few artists that evoke such emotions in their listeners. Joni will > forever be someone special to me for doing that. > > Love, Sherelle > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:11:57 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Toby Lightman on Conan tonight (JM mention) Toby Lightman is good friends with a guy who works in my office. I haven't heard her yet, but Matt recommends that I do. From her website, http://www.tobylightman.com: "Toby's deeply soulful rock groove, which can best be described as blending elements of Sheryl Crow and Lauryn Hill, has earned her favorable comparisons from popular breakthrough artists like Alicia Keyes and Mary J. Blige to classic singer/songwriters such as Joni Mitchell and Bonnie Raitt." Might be worth catching. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:42:25 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Interesting "Canadian" page ? --- Gary Zack wrote: > I certainly noticed how flawed this page was too > Bob. That's part of > the reason I found it "interesting." As far as > Canadian goes, my > understanding is that www.canoe.ca originates from > Canada, therefore a "Canadian" site. I thought the > "Anderson"/"Mitchell" > references were quite "off" too. I thought the > scrapped live album and > "singles" list were probably the parts of most > value, if correct of course. > Canoe is the site of the Toronto Sun, amongst others. The Toronto Sun in no way fits what one could describe as good journalism, but that's just my opinion. Their front page usually has a picture of a girl in a bikini with a headline about something horrendous that has happened somewhere in the world, leading one to believe that the chick in the bikini has something to do with that. And it's full of cruddy ads of all kinds. It does have one or two OK columnists, or at least it used to. I understand it has a good sports section, but I couldn't give a rat's ass about sports, so I wouldn't know. It's not aimed at anyone with any taste or discernment, but it's a bit above the "News of the World", for example. It's popular with subway and bus riders, mainly because of its tabloid format. Oh yeah, my ex-husband used to work for them but, in fairness to him, he hated it too. So, it wouldn't surprise me if anything they have on their site about Joni is less than stellar writing. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:48:26 -0500 From: "Kay Ashley" Subject: Kay Ashley at Columbia this Saturday the 3rd! Dearest Joni Listers, I am quickly breaking my lurkdom to let you know that I have a gig in NYC this week, and perhaps some of you in the vicinity would like to come (I would love to see you!). Details are below. I recently returned from nearly a month in India, and it was totally fabulous, and I literally took 2000 pictures with my digital camera. I can't wait for NE Jonifest this year (get me out of this city!!), and I can't wait to show you all the highlights of my trip on my intrepid laptop... :-) It was an amazing trip -- animals everywhere! And yes, it is true that the cows walk (and even sleep) in the middle of the road, and everyone goes around them... Patrick is now singing in TWO choirs -- can you believe it?! Ain't no way I'm letting him back out of a set at THIS year's fest.... Some exciting news: fellow lister and generally extraordinary human being David Lahm arranged my song "Eyes So Bright" for a cabaret show that he did with Gail Newman, and the song had its debut in their show on the 21st of this month at Danny's Skylight Room here in NYC. It was a thrill to realize that my song exists apart from myself, and David's arrangement was really beautiful -- very jazzy and actually pretty driving compared to my version. As you all know, I'm a totally crappy lister and should probably be kicked off for not reading & writing often enough, but I am so looking forward to seeing all the usual suspects at this year's fest, plus all the newcomers who will undoubtedly become usual suspects. I am especially happy that Kate and Jeff are coming back -- you were truly missed in 2003! Talk to me! :-) Love, Kay _________________ Hello Everyone! Just a quick reminder about my upcoming show at The Postcrypt Coffeehouse, which is in St. Paul's Chapel at Columbia University. This is my first full length show in this room, and I am so excited, I could just, well, whatever... This is a great, acoustically wonderful room -- so wonderful, in fact, that there is no PA system. Just brick walls and vaulted ceilings which naturally amplify sound. You gotta check this out. And you gotta come get your FREE KAYzoo. If you don't know what a KAYzoo is, well, there's only one way to find out... Kay Ashley Saturday, April 3rd 9:00 pm The Postcrypt Coffeehouse St. Paul's Chapel Columbia University Take the 1/9 to 116th Street/Broadway If you don't know where the chapel is, ask at the Gatehouse at 116th/Broadway. No cover charge! No microphones! No excuses! Hope to see you there! :-) Peace, Kay Ashley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.kayashley.com _____________________________________________________________ The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose, nor disclose all or any part of its content to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! Alas, the birthday fairy I am not... But please join me in wishing Michael Paz -- a great friend, super-talented musician, and all around amazing human being -- a big fat Happy Birthday!!! A toast to you this evening... Jenny Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:44:35 +0000 From: "J Harney" Subject: John Kelly as Joni at FEZ (SJC) I was thrilled to watch John Kelly cast a Joni spell over a very enthusiastic audience at Fez in NYC last Saturday night in "Get Up and Jive: Even More Songs of Joni Mitchell." Joni was wearing a shimmering Pompeii red gown and antique costume jewelry, and immediately dazzled the crowd with songs and stories. The place was packed, and as Joni began there were still a lot of people milling around. A bar back dumped a load of ice into a large portable ice bucket, breaking the spell for a moment: Joni looked over and said: "Oooh, that sounds like a slot machine! Are we in Las Vegas?" The crowd roared with laughter and once again the spell galvanized. I have heard about this ongoing series of performance pieces, and I even met John Kelly at a party a couple of years ago, but I was not prepared for the overall effect: such fidelity and delicacy from one artist paying loving and imaginative tribute to another. And then there was the spectral Georgia O'Keefe, Joni's accompanist and sometime foil (played Zecca Esquibel). What I appreciated the most was the mix of songs, representing the span of her career, from STAS through Blue and THOSL to NRH. Very funny and very moving. The show will re-appear in May for two weekends, (May 14 & 15, and May 21 & 22) and is definitely worth seeing (again). Jack - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:48:56 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! njc happy birthday you monster you! biiiiiiiiiiiiig hugzzzzzzzzzzzzz pazzzzzzzzzzzzzz love wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Jenny > Goodspeed > Enviado el: Martes, 30 de Marzo de 2004 07:51 p.m. > Para: JMDL; northeastjonifest@yahoogroups.com > Asunto: drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! > > > Alas, the birthday fairy I am not... > > But please join me in wishing Michael Paz -- a great friend, > super-talented musician, and all around amazing human being -- a > big fat Happy Birthday!!! > > A toast to you this evening... > > Jenny > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:56:05 -0500 From: Subject: Junkies Coming Soon, njc The Cowboy Junkies will have a new album soon, called "One Soul Now". It looks like Margo and the boys will be on the bus this summer. - ------------ * May 27: release party / appearance in Toronto * 31 May: "One Soul Now" available in Europe * beginning of June: "quick week's worth of shows in Europe" * June 8: "One Soul Now" available in North Amer. * June: "various TV, radio and other promotional shows in North Amer". * beginning of July: a few club shows in Ontario * July: east coast of US * Aug: west coast of US * Sept: "more shows" * Oct: "a return to Europe" As if this wasn't enough, some of the shows are co-billed with Shawn Colvin. All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:09:18 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! NJC happy birthday to one of the kewlist dewds in the werld! have a great one paz! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:39:04 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: John Kelly as Joni at FEZ (may 15) + new york metro mass choir, may 14 thanks for the great report, jack. i've seen 'paved paradise' many times and also saw 'shiny hot nights' at fez a few years back. kay ashley and i were actually supposed to go to 'get up and jive' on saturday, and didn't because someone (me!) screwed up. when i first joined this list, more, i think, than 7 years ago, i reported that the first time i saw john kelly do 'paved paradise' had a huge effect on me, sending me really intently back to my joni records and making me rediscover and deepen my love of joni. 'paved paradise' was the reason that the first time i did an internet search, it was on 'joni mitchell' and it went to jonimitchell.com. so i've always appreciated john for that. i'd loved a number of john's other works before then, and had heard him close 'wigstock' the festival with his 'wigstock' the song many times. but 'paved paradise' rekindled the fire. so it was particularly good to hear the dates of his return to the fez: >The show will re-appear in May for two weekends, (May 14 & 15, and May 21 & 22) and since kay posted earlier about my choir activities, i get to announce that kay ashley and i are singing in the new york metro mass choir's spring concert (see http://metromasschoir.org/) on friday, may 14 in avery fisher hall at new york's lincoln center. AND, several current and former jmdlers will be in town for this concert and the weekend, so i'm officially suggesting a mini-jmdl gather at john kelly's show on may 15. let me know privately if you are interested. patrick np (assaw*)- new york metro mass choir, down in the river/amazing grace *and soon singing along with ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:50:13 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Nellie McKay, part 3, njc Preach on, brother, and I'll shout the "Amen"! I can't enough of this CD. And for those of you who haven't been converted to Nellie McKay yet, go check out a couple of cool interview clips at: http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1700688.html Like Joni, she studied piano for a time but wasn't interested in playing the masters, she had her own stuff to get out. Besides the interview clips, there are 4 or 5 in-the-radio-studio songs you can spin there too. And if you only listen to ONE, make it "I Wanna Get Married" which is probably the most hilarious song you'll hear this year. What is it about McKays that make them insanely clever? Bob NP: Nellie McKay, "Ding Dong" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:48:59 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Nellie McKay, part 3, njc --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: And if you only > listen to ONE, make it "I Wanna Get Married" which > is probably the most > hilarious song you'll hear this year. I did listen to that, and I agree - it IS hilarious. I'm already converted. And don'tya love red hair? I do! What is it > about McKays that make them insanely > clever? I asked my Dad that very question, and he replied: "Booga! Booga!" ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:08:35 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] drumroll please....Happy Birthday Michael Paz!! NJC Dearest Pazman, HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!! Cheers and all joy to you as you take on another year. So dream on and live it up - I know I wont have to tell you twice! Hoping all the best is yet to come. Peace, Susan Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 02:05:22 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 31 On March 31 the following article was published: 2003: "Dial it down, lose the signal" - San Diego Union-Tribune (Review - Documentary) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1075 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #139 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)