From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #128 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 25 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 128 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: no peanuts njc [Catherine McKay ] conservation and evolution (NJC) ["jlobello" ] Sarah Harmer NJC [Doug ] No, peanuts! NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Bugs within the JMDL site - now Sarah Harmer njc [Ken ] RE: NJC - Recycling ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Sarah Harmer NJC [Ken ] Re: recycling, NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC ["Kate Bennett" ] Mercury poisoning njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Sarah harmer njc [Ken ] The King's English... was Bush's "faith" NJC PC ["kerry" ] Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC [vince ] Re: Farina music [PassScribe@aol.com] RE: Farina music ["Richard Flynn" ] BYT on Counting Crows Trib [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Now for something REALLY different -- NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Now for something REALLY different -- NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: I don't want a pickle, NJC [Smurfycopy@aol.com] njc - I Want You Gone (Laura Love) [OzWoman321@aol.com] Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC [Catherine McKay ] Re: recycling, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: NJC ["hell" ] Re: compost pile, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: recycling, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC ["hell" ] Re: God njc ["ron" ] Re: What is reality? NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: What is reality? NJC PC ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: no peanuts njc --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > > . . .more like: the choosy lover who chose Jif! > > (and I am choosy) > And so you should be. You deserve nothing less than the best. So there. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:19:13 -0500 From: "jlobello" Subject: conservation and evolution (NJC) Lori, I've heard this rationale before and each time I want to puke. >I once worked with a woman who was a "born again Christian" and she absolutely >REFUSED to recycle, and further, she HATED that her young sons were being >taught to recycle in school -- it really upset her. Her reasoning? That God >intended for us to use up and waste the earth. When the Rapture came, the >saved would leave the earth and so there was no need to care for it. Because of sentiment like this I it would be the utmost hypocrisy to call myself a christian. I'm also an "evolutionary biologist" and you can imagine the arguments I get in with fundamentalist "christians". The fact of the matter is that most of the true Christian friends that I have believe in stuartship of the Earth. Here's something else that frightens me and is from the evoldir (evolution directory) mailing list that I also belong to. >Folks: >My daughter's 7th grade science teacher showed the class a creationist video >entitled "Evolution...Fact or Belief?". My daughter was particularly >offended by the statement in it that evolutionary biologists aren't >scientists! Some of us are working with the school district to help educate >the teachers about why the facts presented in the video are bogus (two of >the teachers believe that the evidence in this video proves evolution to be >false), and I am wondering if anyone out there has already put together a >response to this particular video. >Thanks, >Jeff - -- Jeff C Professor Kellogg Biological Station Michigan State University ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:23:59 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Sarah Harmer NJC There was a short interview with Sarah on CBC yesterday. I've followed her music somewhat over the years but frankly, she doesn't knock my socks off. I like her lyrics but her guitar playing and vocals are a little weak IMO The latest album sounds good though. I may be a convert yet. Doug in Ontario (and not far from Kingston) (and infatuated with Patty Griffin lately) Ken wrote: > > I'm a little discouraged lately. I've sent a few posts mentioning > Sarah Harmer. Either no one likes her or know one knows her. > Not a peep from the list. She's has obviously listened to Joni as is > evident in songs like Pendulum (the lyrics) and Dandelions > in Bullet Holes (the open e tuning). And the sweetest voice. Think I'm > in love. Don't tell my old lady. > Really surprised no one has anything to say about her. > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: No, peanuts! NJC My great weakness is skippy p'nut butter! I was an all organic natural foods mom til one day my son begged begged begged me to get skippy, the p'nut butter all his friends ate... Well okay I said & to this day I can't eat any other... I've tried going back to Laura (Scudder)... Oh well, now its not only the ingredients but the p'nuts that are bad... Heck, it is a guilty pleasure eaten rarely... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:43:36 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Bugs within the JMDL site - now Sarah Harmer njc Hope you get rid of your headache, though anyone who doesn't like SH deserves a damn head ache! ;) Try here if your interested http://www.sarahharmer.net/ Though I don't like all her stuff and find on the whole her new album a bit weak give Bulletholes and Pendulem a lsten to. If you still don't like her the tylonol is on me. P.S. Ok how much is THIS gonna cost me. Catherine McKay wrote: > >Aww, quit yer whinin' willya? I've heard OF her and >have heard some of her stuff, but I guess none of it >grabbed me enough. Still, am willing to give her >another listen, if for no other reasons than she's >Canadian (YAY!!!) and she has the same first name as >my daughter. I'm sure others have mentioned her here, >but then again, I have a blinding headache and am >seeing double today or something. > >P.S. Your secret is safe with us. We won't tell the >old lady.... or will we? heh-heh-heh. > >===== >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:44:17 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Sarah harmer njc I've heard her name but not HEARD her.. tell us more! >I'm a little discouraged lately. I've sent a few posts mentioning Sarah Harmer. Either no one likes her or know one knows her. Not a peep from the list. She's has obviously listened to Joni as is evident in songs like Pendulum (the lyrics) and Dandelions in Bullet Holes (the open e tuning). And the sweetest voice. < Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:49:08 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: NJC - Recycling Bree >Good then.. I;ll blame it on the Buckeye state.< Ha! I knew it! My hubby was born & raised in ohio...he has needed some serious retraining in many respects...he's coming along well now & is in CHARGE of the recycle bins & getting them to the street each week... But you know what is cool here? We don't have to separate anything! They do it all for us! Makes it very easy... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:59:37 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Sarah Harmer NJC Thank god I don't live near Kingston. I'd be on her door step faster than you can say "Help stalker" though what Sarah could possibly want with a 50 yr old groupie I can't imagine. Maybe have me weed her garden. I don't know. I missed the interview, though on Saturday on CBC 1 in Montreal they're running the taping I attended last month of her with her band. I agree about the guitar playing but not the voice but in the end taste is taste and everyone's is different. There's just too much good music these days. I just can't keep up and most of it never is heard on radio. Doug wrote: > There was a short interview with Sarah on CBC yesterday. I've followed > her music somewhat over the years but > frankly, she doesn't knock my socks off. I like her lyrics but her > guitar playing and vocals are a little weak IMO > The latest album sounds good though. I may be a convert yet. > > Doug in Ontario (and not far from Kingston) (and infatuated with > Patty Griffin lately) > > Ken wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:02:08 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: recycling, NJC Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > For some very strange reason, there are people who are exremely anti-environment< I have never understood how someone could be ANTI environment... Come to think of it I once had a boyfriend who's belief was similar in that he believed in survival of the fittest & so what if endangered species died & pollution wrecked air quality & global warming happened etc etc... Come to think of it, guess where he was from- MIDLAND TEXAS! I'd never heard of the place til I met him... I hope nobody here is from there cuz I'm wondering if those folks maybe took in too many oil fumes or something... Anyway we were history soon after that little revelation... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:06:31 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC Smurf> and most great American writers, IMO, are from below the Mason Dixon line.< Yep & songwriters too, especially texas [but probably not midland :~}]... Outside of the canadian ones... & of course at least one from NJ for rosie... Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:38:56 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: conservation and evolution (NJC) jlobello wrote: >>My daughter's 7th grade science teacher showed the class a creationist video >>entitled "Evolution...Fact or Belief?". >> oh dear-creationists are pretty barmy. however, evolution is not proved.... i think there can be a diffrent take on it. evolution as i understand it makes no sense but niether does creationism. The idea that God created the universe and everything seems whacky. The idea that the Big Bang created it is also whacky. Another one of those unanswerable questions that makes one wonder 'does it really matter?'. surely there are other questions of more importance and makes one wonder if energy spent on asking the unanswerable is well spent. Tho of course questioning does lead one to ask the unanswersable-but once there drop it and move on to waht we have ahope of understanding. Our brains are not equipped to deal with this-we cannot envisage how we all got here, we can't even understand about time( a creation of our brains as far as I have read). It is well to realise that a theory is just that-a theory or idea-not a proven fact. As we develop both scientifically and spiritua;lly we will get more and more answers. I don't think 'how we got here and why' will be one of them...at least not for a long while and perhaps not at all while in the physical world. We are too limited by our physicalness. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:10:13 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Mercury poisoning njc I'm staying out of the US political talk - for the most part. This latest gem, though, seems too extraordinary not to pass on. If anyone is still in doubt about the extent to which this shower in the White House is in hock to interests other than those of ordinary people, this is food for thought, so to speak... http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=702 Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:12:43 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Sarah harmer njc Sure Kate! Sarah records her albums on her farm near Kingston Ontario. She decided to learn to play guitar when she wanted to play a Neil Young song. She started a band called Weeping Tile. I guess considered alternative. After Weeping Tile she made a CD for her father as a gift called "Songs For Clem" All old style country stuff that her father would like. You can hear the crickets on the CD and at one point it starts raining. All live. Fits perfectly. The set list is as follows: Blue Moon Of Kentucky Tennessee Waltz Black Coffee Stormy Weather h Bury Me Not Just A Closer Walk With Thee Sine On Harvest Moon Trouble In The Fields Your Cheatin' Heart Summertime Sentimental Journey O My Beloved Father Her rendition of Trouble in the Fields is fantastic. Anyway all her friends told her she should release the CD commercially which she did. I think it's only available in Canada but of course you can always order it. After that CD she went solo. Her new album is her third and was released yesterday. Snippets can be heard here. http://www.sarahharmer.net/ Pendulums and Bullet Holes are my favs. "Almost" will be the video release. Ken Kate Bennett wrote: >I've heard her name but not HEARD her.. tell us more! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:39:37 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: The King's English... was Bush's "faith" NJC PC I just saw Bush in a new TV commercial. In the voiceover, he attempts to say the word "entrepreneur" and he makes mincemeat out of it. I can't believe that was the finished product. I wonder how many takes it took for him to even get close to saying it correctly! Kerry Lori wrote: What's funny (and sad) to me is that there are so many people who get all pissy about immigrants "not learning English" or speaking it incorrectly, yet most of those a**holes support Bush, who stands in front of the world saying "nucular" again and again. I've actually heard people DEFEND that. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: magsnbrei Subject: cd baby sale NJC Thought y'all might be interested in this: www.cdbaby.com/sale I am amused by the catagory under Folk entitled "like Joni". check out Charity Kahn enjoy, Mags, ever so briefly out of lurkdom xo ***** your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle everything i do is stitched with its colour. w.s.merwin Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:03:52 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC colin wrote: > >>jealous of Jimmy, who sung like a Clydesdale ... >> >> >> >> >shouldn't it be sang? > No one has posted this yet so I will: isn't it better to be HUNG like a Clydesdale? Vinc, just wondering ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:11:37 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC Vince wrote: > No one has posted this yet so I will: > > isn't it better to be HUNG like a Clydesdale? The original line from Smurph was "Jimmy sung like a Clydesdale". Say it fast (out loud), and you'll get it....;o) Hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:12:06 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Sarah Harmer, was: Bugs within the JMDL site, njc Yo, Ken. I saw Sarah Harmer open for the Cowboy Junkies. I think it was in Chicago at Park West maybe. That was the first "bad" road trip I ever had in my life and it had nothing to do with the music. Anyway, I'm glad you like her stuff. Lama np: Bob Dylan's "Oh Sister" from the Rolling Thunder set ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:11:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: RE: NJC - Recycling (was Re: Iraq, NJC) Mind if I jump in Bree? I totally can relate. I married a (former) town recycling outreach coordinator/director and MAJOR composter. I did recycle already (though I wasn't militant about it), but I didn't compost and I didn't want a smelly bucket of food scraps in the kitchen. But we found a tasteful ceramic container, with a filter for odors, to keep in the kitchen and he is in charge of bringing food out to and maintaining the big pile, so it's no extra work for me. Now we just moved this winter into a new house and I was throwing food away because there was no compost pile and you can't start a compost pile in the middle of winter. Well he couldn't stand it and convinced me he found a place for scraps outside. In fact, he had just been taking the container out at night and hurling the food out into the dark somewhere in our large wooded yard. One morning he took a walk out back in the yard and spotted our once nice white propane tank completely covered in food waste. so he found a new place to put the scraps since we still don't have a pile and i have no idea where it is and i'm not asking... congrats on the move to new york! jenny Bree Mcdonough wrote: Good then.. I;ll blame it on the Buckeye state. But seriously..I do try to be more aware of landfills..and make efforts not to be so wasteful. Plus moving to New York soon..and with a particular individual who is a major recycler. Oh..I forgot about the compost pile...I must remember this mound of guck. Any words of wisdom about the compost pile? Laura? Lori? Colin? Bree >Bree admitted: > > > in fact I don't recycle. > >This seems to be a problem with people who live in Ohio. > >Lori, >whose family still lives there, almost none of whom (save for one wise >aunt) >recycle either _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:27:22 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: conservation and evolution (NJC) Stuartship? Who's Stuart - the second son of God? At 06:19 PM 3/24/2004 -0500, you wrote: >The fact of the matter is that most of the true Christian friends that I have >believe in stuartship of the Earth. >Here's something else that frightens me and is from the evoldir (evolution >directory) mailing list that I also belong to. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:35:37 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Farina music In a message dated 3/23/04 3:03:14 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: farina influence? Welcome to the list Douglas. I don;t know the answer to your question, but I'm a fan of the Farinas. www.richardandmimi.com >> Hey, guys, I read about Richard and Mimi Farina in the Dylan biography "Positively 4th Street" and always wondered what their music sounded like. I've been unable to find any (probably very rare and maybe not so in demand at that) but do you have anything you could make a copy of and send me if I supply you with a tape or cd & postage? Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:00:02 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Farina music Kenny, YOu can get the Complete Vanguard Recordings for 23 bucks from Amazon. And that's pretty much all their work as a duo. Douglas has a great discography on his site below. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of PassScribe@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:36 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Farina music In a message dated 3/23/04 3:03:14 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: farina influence? Welcome to the list Douglas. I don;t know the answer to your question, but I'm a fan of the Farinas. www.richardandmimi.com >> Hey, guys, I read about Richard and Mimi Farina in the Dylan biography "Positively 4th Street" and always wondered what their music sounded like. I've been unable to find any (probably very rare and maybe not so in demand at that) but do you have anything you could make a copy of and send me if I supply you with a tape or cd & postage? Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:01:24 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: BYT on Counting Crows Trib Well, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, since Doogie White's "This Flight Tonight" was on the Nazareth Tribute...next week one of the new releases will be a Counting Crows Trib with a cover of BYT on it. Don't know yet who the artist is, so more on this story as it develops. Speaking of covers...it's almost the first of a new month! Better get to the Post Office. And coincidentally, it begins with a VERY interesting cover of a cover! Bob, who contends that covers are recycling music, right? Even if some of them belong in the compost... NP: Dave Matthews, "Dreams Of Our Fathers" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:11:03 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Now for something REALLY different -- NJC LMAO! You need to get a fecking job! You have entirely too much time on your hands (no pun intended). As for Jimmy, that's not exactly what I heard. Paz > Paz, who left his long black hair in everyone's bathtub drain at last > summer's Jonifest, writes: > > << I am the king of procrastination only second to Nikki who is the QUEEN {no > offence Smurph}) >> > > No offence taken, bitch! > > There's always so much to see and do at Jonifest, I encourage everyone to go. > I will be there if I find work -- and lots of it -- so let's all pray for me > (unless you'd rather not see me there because you're Republican, like Debra). > > One thing I missed at Jonifest '03 was Jimmy's performance. He apparently > sounds a bit like a horse because everyone was saying that Jimmy sung like a > Clydesdale. > > XO, > > --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:12:51 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Now for something REALLY different What say I just beat your ass while I am up there?? Bitch! Paz > Paz also writes: > > << if anyone needs percussion on their stuff I am happy to oblige >> > > What a ho. Pins you in a corner and he won't take "No." > > -- Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:16:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC > isn't it better to be HUNG like a Clydesdale? Vince, say this very fast: "He sung like a Clydesdale." You'll get it. ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:14:33 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Now for something REALLY different > For you hunny anytime. One of the highlights of my JF2003 experience was > playing with you on the NJ hit and hearing you down front whilst I sang the > Joan Armatrading number > > Love Ya > > > Paz > > OMG Smurph - you are soooo back! Paz you beotch, you better play with me. > > Oh Smurphy, please remember The Sugarpants gig was your once in a lifetime > shot - so enjoy the memory baby! And we are NOT your gals! There will be no > mutiny as you called for last year after your debut with us. So don't test me > - I have grown bitter - bitter I tell you! > > Peace, > Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:15:27 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Now for something REALLY different Holler at me on the ohone at the office and we will discuss options. What 88 do you have?? Paz > Paz, > I will be there, AND really want to take my 88 key digital piano with. > We're not sure how to get it there, though. Ship it to someone ahead of > time??? Jeff and I may drive, but with the looming threat of unbearable gas > prices (what's that about?) now we're not sure. > Any ideas?? > Steve > > > At 06:15 PM 3/21/2004 -0600, Michael Paz wrote: >> Hello All- >> I have been cloaked for quite sometime due to lack of interest I guess. >> But I got a wild hair all of a sudden. I sent my deposit on for Jonifest >> (which could be some kinda record seeing how I am the king of >> procrastination only second to Nikki who is the QUEEN {no offence Smurph}) >> Anyways I have been wondering who all is planning on going? How many >> newbie's are we gonna have this year? I have been trying to get a musical >> agenda together for this year and plan on much more jamming around campus >> and looking forward to collaborating with many more people this year. If >> anyone is interested in doing something please contact me. I am bringing my >> Cajon again and Ashara is bringing my old one as well so if anyone needs >> percussion on their stuff I am happy to oblige. I have been working on some >> original music lately and in tunings. I hope I am strong enough to venture >> into that this year. Jack has moved off to New Mexico and will probably not >> be there this year, but who knows. It would be great to have an 88 key >> digital piano this year for some of the great pianists to play. I like them >> better to play on as well. If you have an 88 key digital piano and live >> driving distance to Oliveria, NY Jonifest WANTS YOU!!! I carried mine one >> year but I am way to old to lug it that far on a plane anymore. Besides >> those airline bastards are down to 50lb per bag or $100 overweight. Anyways >> I just was inspired to write to try to get off the glum of the universe >> right now and hopefully encourage more people to come out and play this >> summer. Leave all the bull shit of our lives behind and just party and play >> music and have tons O hugs. Best to all. >> >> Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:17:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC > The original line from Smurph was "Jimmy sung like a > Clydesdale". Say it fast (out loud), and you'll get > it....;o) Why is it that only lesbians and Smurph seem to have gotten this?? : D Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:22:24 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC Lori wrote: > > The original line from Smurph was "Jimmy sung > > like a Clydesdale". Say it fast (out loud), and > > you'll get it....;o) > > Why is it that only lesbians and Smurph seem to > have gotten this?? Great minds think alike? Or maybe that should be "gutter" minds.... Hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:23:01 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: I don't want a pickle, NJC Oh my gawd Scott please let him come to New Orleans. Why the feck didn;t the Jazz Fest pin heads get him instead of one of the other acts that are coming abck for the umteenth time. Thanks for the report and good to see ya posting. Love Paz > Arlo Guthrie played in my little town last Friday night, arriving by tour > bus rather than by motorcyyyy-cle. Accompanied by his son, daughter, and > son-in-law, he continues to exemplify contemporary folk music, presenting > to the audience a warm combination of music, comedy, history, and social > commentary. I was pleased that he pays homage to his father and performed > three of Woody's tunes. > > During the encore, he played an abbreviated version of "Alice's Restaurant" > and at one point feigned (or perhaps *not*) remembering the lyrics to the > 18-minute epic. Turning to his daughter for help with the words, she was > unable to recite them to his satisfaction, at which point Arlo proclaimed, > "hey, I know the words to *my* dad's songs!" > > If he comes to your area I'm confident you won't be disappointed. > > Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:28:34 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Now for something REALLY different -- NJC Paz threatens: << What say I just beat your ass while I am up there?? Bitch! >> You know I am not into that leather scene that you and Stevie like so much. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:38:48 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: I don't want a pickle, NJC Paz whines: << Why the feck didn;t the Jazz Fest pin heads get him instead of one of the other acts that are coming abck for the umteenth time. >> Duh! Especially since one of his biggest hits was "City of New Orleans." - --Smurf, who once did "security" for Arlo in 1979. It was a volunteer gig for a Boston neighborhood concert series, and I didn't exactly have a lot of rough people to have to deal with that night. Maybe the blue Smurf uniform scared 'em . . . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:50:57 EST From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: njc - I Want You Gone (Laura Love) Hello, All - Lori, and then Bree, wrote: > >Lori, > >wondering if GWB will spell it "nucular" in his memoirs > > Yeah....you think Laura being a former school teacher would tell him... > it's this way honey... > > Letterman did a thing on his mispronunciation of nuclear recently. They > spliced together maybe fifty times him saying "nucular" It was a riot. ...which reminded me of the song "I Want You Gone" by Laura Love on her most recent CD, Welcome to Pagan Place... http://www.buymusichere.net/rel/v2_viewupc.php?storenr=53&upc=09992384782 << The artist describes her 2003 recording this way: "I'm really excited about this release because it incudes all my favorite musical genres: funk, bluegrass and despising the Bush administration!" Here are the lyrics to the song I Want You Gone, which is actually on this CD, and is slated to be released as a single as well: "We can solve this problem with just one bullet"*/ Well you better hope that they don't think that too/ We're the only ones that get to have the bombs/ Well you better hope that they don't think that too/ My bigass god can beat up yours - Hey, Hey, Hey/ Well you better hope that they don't think that too/ I'm tired of being smooth I'm tired of being nice/ I'm tired of making it sound pretty/ I want you gone like the wind/ I want you gone like the wind/ I want you gone, gone, gone, gone, gone!/ Ak 47, B-52, C-130 Transport, F-16 - Hey, Hey, Hey/ Since we're talking numbers and since we're talking letters/ How about my 401k? - Hey, Hey I'm tired of being nice/ I'm tired of making it rhyme/ I'm tired of making it sound pretty/ I want you gone like the wind/ I want you gone like the wind/ I want you gone, gone, gone, gone, gone! - Hey, Hey, Hey! It's the economy stupid, not all the brown people in the world/ I don't want a moron gettin' this war on - and "nucular" is not a word/ I want a lot more readin' and a lot less bleedin' and "nucular" is not a word - Hey, Hey Hey I'm tired of being nice - I'm tired of making it rhyme/ I'm tired of making it sound pretty/ I want you gone like the wind/ I want you gone like the wind/ I want you gone, gone, gone, gone, gone!* Opening line of this song is a quote from Ari Fleischer http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/sq/1Bullet.html >> Susan http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com "I was all out of choices, but the woman of voices She turned round the corner with music around her, She gave me the language that keeps me alive..." ~ Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:57:46 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC --- hell@ihug.co.nz wrote: > Lori wrote: > I still don't buy it. The article says > Merriam-Webster got > a lot of negative comments for including the > "nucular" > pronounciation in their dictionary, and justified it > by > saying that lots of prominent people said it that > way! It > reminds me of my mother saying "If your friends > wanted to > jump off a bridge, does that mean you'd have to as > well?" > Just because lots of people do something, doesn't > make it > right ;o)! Darn right. It's not spelled nu-cu-lar, so why pronounce it that way? (On the other hand, there's February, Wednesday and a whole bunch more...) To me, if someone says nu-cu-lar, it's not a regional dialect or an accent - it just sounds ignorant. BTW, I always say "supper". "Dinner" is when you go out somewhere special. And I say either "outdoors" or "outside" (I'm bilingual.) > A more compelling reason against "nucular" - Homer > Simpson > also says it that way! He also says "saxamaphone" - > which I > actually do think is kind of cool! I like saxamaphone too :-) > In NZ right now, we're running "New Zealand Idol" > (kind of > embarassing, compared to the US and Australian > versions, > because we've only got about two contestants who can > actually hold a note occasionally - but I > digress....) > Anyway, the presenter has been getting a lot of flak > about > his pronounciation, particularly of the words > perform and > performance, which he insists in pronouncing > "preform" and > "preformance". But having watched the show several > times > (I'm a glutton for punishment) I suspect it's more > of a > speech "defect" making the word SOUND like preform, > rather > than ignorance. I'm not sure the same could be said > for > Bush.... We have Canadian Idol too, which is also embarassing, but then again, all those shows are, IMO. In the case of popstars and contests for same, "preform" could be correct. These are people that are moulded (or is it molded?) into popstar shapes, so, preform. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:22:09 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC --- vince wrote: > colin wrote: > > > > >>jealous of Jimmy, who sung like a Clydesdale ... > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >shouldn't it be sang? > > > No one has posted this yet so I will: > > isn't it better to be HUNG like a Clydesdale? > > Vinc, just wondering Just say it out loud a couple of times. Silly Smurfy, Troy, Trevor, Denzel, whatever-the-hell-else. How come you're calling yourself Vinc now? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:42:43 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: NJC Catherine McKay wrote: > >>Vinc, just wondering >> >> > > >How come you're calling yourself Vinc now? > I forgot the "e" ok? Had a few blue moon beers tonight, saw the hottie lust object of my life and yet good person and true friend (straight as hell)* naked tonight in the locker room, we worked out and partied together, and then he goes home alone and I forgot the fucking "E' Vinceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee NP: For You Blue *named aptly, George ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:52:06 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: recycling, NJC Smurf wrote: .... there are people who are exremely anti-environment and consider those of us who do care to be tree huggers. Yo Bob! Have you ever hugged a tree? More people ought to hug trees and climb them too. Trees give great hugs! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:54:11 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: NJC Vinceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wrote (among other things): > (straight as hell)* No comment ;o)! Hell ___________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:55:29 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: compost pile, NJC Bree wrote: Oh..I forgot about the compost pile...I must remember this mound of guck. Any words of wisdom about the compost pile? Laura? Hi Bree, Just one suggestion... don't forget to water your compost pile. I have a friend who lives in the center of Little Rock and has a compost pile in her drive way so she can run over it with her car and speed up the process. Creative composting can be a lot of fun! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:57:27 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: recycling, njc Somebody named Marianne wrote: This was terrific Laura!. . . . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:04:19 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: The King's English...was Bush's faith NJC PC Catherine wrote: > We have Canadian Idol too, which is also embarassing, > but then again, all those shows are, IMO. In the case > of popstars and contests for same, "preform" could be > correct. These are people that are moulded (or is it > molded?) into popstar shapes, so, preform. You know, I hadn't thought of it like that, but it definitely fits! It's interesting that whenever a new solo artist arrives on the scene here, one of the first things they get asked is, "Would you ever consider entering NZ Idol?" and their answer is invariably "No - not in a million years!" My own perception is that if someone has got the drive, ambition, talent (which none of the current finalists have in any abundance!) or desire to get into the music business, they can usually manage it on their own - at some level. Obviously I'm over-simplifying things - I know there are a lot of other factors, but really, the vocal ability of the contestants on this show is pretty damn poor. They should all go to a Jonifest and see how it should be done ;o)! I get more fun out of watching the show to see the clips of some of the more "colourful" contestants who DIDN'T make it! Especially some of the comments after they've been rejected, like "Oh, I started in the wrong key" or "I think they're looking for someone with a different type of voice" - more like someone who can actually sing in tune! Hell ___________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:20:31 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: nucular, njc Lori, still having trouble with nucular Hi Lori! Come to Arkansas sometime (on Bella of course!), and you will think this GW pronunciation is mild. I think nobody messes with his way of saying nuclear because they find him unteachable cuz he's laliterate. One word Robert (a true Arky) speaks that is funny to me is cement... he says semen-t. There are whole books written on how to speak like the people of Arkansas. Hey, Jennifer.... you out there? HELLOOOOOO!? You're from podunk Arkansas. Got any words to add? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:25:46 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: The Rapture, NJC Catherine asked: What the hell is the "rapture" anyway? I've never understood that. Hi Catherine! It is where this big bird swoops down and grabs you with its talons, takes you off to a nucular power plant and drops you in to recycle you. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:46:03 -0300 From: caio cardoso nehring Subject: Re: BYT on Counting Crows Trib ...next week one of the new releases >will >be a Counting Crows Trib with a cover of BYT on it. Don't know yet who the >artist is, so more on this story as it develops. > >Speaking of covers... > >NP: Dave Matthews, Divine Coincidence: While I read this, Dave M. is singing "Some Devil" through "21 grams"s closing scene...shivers all over in a clear clear case of NP on my tv screen... Read somewhere (RS or SPIN) that the artist on the tribute is Vanessa "1000 miles" Carlton, pardon me, but 1000 miles better than decrepit Nazareth. Actually, BYT was a patch (incidental/intentional music) in one of CC's "Sugar Candy" CD tracks, can't remember its name. At least, i want to believe credits were given...can't remember as well. Paz e Amor Caio NP Radiohead - Scatterbrain/A Wolf at the Door _________________________________________________________ Voce quer um iGMail protegido contra vmrus e spams? Clique aqui: http://www.igmailseguro.ig.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:50:00 EST From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: njc - What Do the Simple Folk Do? (Arthur and Guinevere) Hello, All - Kate wrote, *many* weeks ago, regarding the Folk Alliance in San Diego this past February... > Of course I saw steve &michele dulson there as they are very involved & > hosted one of the showcase rooms... I met susan (ozwoman) who is one of > the coolest, sweetest people you could ever meet! She hosted an > incredible lineup of musicians in her showcase all weekend... I must say it was an absolute delight to meet Kate as well - the funny thing is that we had e-mailed a few days before, promising to look out for each other. Late one evening (way after midnight, right, Kate?) I was on my way to a showcase and saw a woman walking in front of me with the most gorgeous red hair - - "Kate?", I had to ask... and it was! We hugged, yakked a bit in the corridor, I told her where I was headed and asked if she was interested in coming along - she did and we had a little bit of time to spend before I had to meet up with someone and Kate headed to the showcase she was performing in. One of my many regrets this year was in not having a chance to hear her play and sing - everyone has spoken so highly of Kate's musicianship it was something I was looking forward to, but it was not to be. Exciting as this Folk Alliance was, in that I was staffing a table in the Exhibit Hall to promote my new booking agency *and* I hostessed a showcase room for 4 1/2 hours Friday and Saturday, there were limited opportunities to fill my own music well - the business hat had to take priority over my active listening cap and I missed all those wonderful new discoveries I'm usually privy to! Kate, if you are in Montreal February 2005 (I know I'll be there!), I promise to make it to one of your showcases - after all, you and Jeff came to the one I was presenting (thanks... and great to meet you both... :-) Susan http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com "I was all out of choices, but the woman of voices She turned round the corner with music around her, She gave me the language that keeps me alive..." ~ Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:06:40 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: BYT on Counting Crows Trib -- NJC pandora54@ig.com.br writes: << Paz e Amor >> (Sigh) XO, - --Eleanor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:19:53 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: March 25 On March 25 the following article was published: 1988: "Album is all Joni, despite heavyweight sidemen" - Toronto Star (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1142 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:57:14 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Iraq, NJC - Iraq? No, peanuts! hi >>>>>laura wrote >>>>However, I recently read that peanut oil is not good for thyroid function... coconut oil is. Looks like macaroons will be replacing the peanut butter on toast for me. ive been a peanut addict most of my life - nothing better that a brown paper bag of fresh roast peanuts, still warm out the roaster. still in their skins, except perhaps boiled ones still in their shells ???? as for peanut butter - well, fresh, natural & chunky, & covered with a nice layer of real mayonaise - just to boost the oil content................ then recently i found out that they are one of the worst things you can eat if you have thyroid problems, (as i do) mmmm - think i'll just increase my medication :-) ron np - eastmountainsouth - too soon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:23:18 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: God njc hi kate >>>>>& I wonder why do you refer to god as 'him'? Do you really believe god has gender? This gender association has always felt so limiting to me not to mention incorrect IMO<<<< you are 100% right. the bible clearly says that god is not man or woman. i basically call god "him" because "it" isnt personal enough, english doesnt really have a neutral gender. (that im aware of) using "he/she" alternately with "she/he" might work but is really kind of clumsy - and raises a whole string of new questions, like - which do i start with the "he" or the "she"???? and what do i do if there is an odd number of usages in whatever im writing, resulting in "he/she" getting more uses than "she/he" or vice versa??? tricky. using it/he/she is also an option but may have even more ramifications, such as "it/she/he" or even worse, down south usa usage of "he/she/it" dont some languages have neutral gender??? but - while the he/she thing above is very definitely tongue in cheek - i do agree that the use of the male gender can and does cause a lot of mistakes, preconceptions, biase, and error among people who are either not aware of, or choose to ignore its use as a convenience, and take it literally, applying all sorts of ridiculous extensions to it based on their notions of what the roles of male and female should be. ron (now wishing like hell (pun intended) that hed just shut up in the first place, and also that, in the same way that he wont let anyones religious convictions affect his relationship with anyone else, no one will let my opinions affect their relationship with me.................) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:32:17 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: What is reality? NJC Randy wrote: > I suggest looking into the information from Scott Ritter. He was > a member of the US inspection team, before we pulled out. Yeah Scott Ritter who was later paid several hundred thousands of dollars from Saddam to make a "documentary" and what else. Please. He's totally not credible in my book, > > interesting > > that we now learn more everyday about certain countries who had back deals > > with Saddam and the $12 billion skimmed off the top in the U.N. oil for food > > Political corruption. Kind of like the Vice President's company, > Halliburton getting those billion dollar deals. (Notice I did not say > former company, because he still recieves a stipend from them). How do you know Cheney receives a stipend from Halliburton? What source? Cheney only worked for them briefly and gave up the job and all his financial interest (stock) in the company before he ran as V.P. There are securities and other laws in this country that really are enforced. Saddam himself was a weapon of mass destruction which anyone can see from all the mass graves uncovered and the stories of the people of Iraq for decades. I don't care if you disagree on involvement there (I have never been enthused with it myself) but why why why deny the facts and try to reduce it all to stuff about Bush and Cheney and Halliburton? Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:25:52 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: What is reality? NJC PC No Vince, I have posted numerous links to the UN web site of Hans Blix's reports, a link to the Clinton State dept. web site stating verbatim the same claims Bush made regarding the WMDs, links to Clinton's speechs and justifications for bombing Bagdad and the WMDs, Clinton's interview of a year ago saying he got some of the WMDs but not all of them, etc. etc. and no one ever responds to those statements I have linked. Since the Iraq war I have read numerous mainstream reporting of us finding illegal warheads buried in Iraq, warheads that can carry chemical weapons, etc. They just haven't found the bio and chem agents. And a WMD is not some huge field stockpiled with nukes - it can be a thimble full of anthrax or sarin that could have been easily flushed down a toilet. You all want to erase the UN and Clinton history. Fine - but it's still out there recorded for years as historical fact. Kakki > >>No one here ever responds to a question I have posed a number of times. > >> > it has been answered a lot > > you just didn't agree with the answer > > and we all do that - not picking on you at all > > Vince ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #128 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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