From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2004 #40 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 22 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 040 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- banished [rsc1@humboldt.edu] Re: On inventing chords ["Marian Russell" ] RE: Why would someone be cutting? [Gaythorne Silvester ] Re: Hell test (njc) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Hell test (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Ralph loves Joni [Gertus@aol.com] Re: What do we all do for a living (NJC) [Garret ] RE: Hot topic of the day NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] What do we all do for a living (NJC) [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: Wally's posts and AOL (NJC) [Emiliano ] Re: Joni for Kids [Emiliano ] Re: Songs to aging Children (shudder) Come. NJC [Steve Polifka ] Hell test (njc) [] Re: Hell test (njc) ["Lori Fye" ] addition to jmdl guitar database ["Marian Russell" ] more covers from the Joniguy [Gertus@aol.com] RE: Hell test (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Hell test (njc) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: Hell test (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Hell test (njc) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Hell test (njc) ["mackoliver" ] RE: Hell test (njc) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: Hell test (njc) ["Richard Flynn" ] What do we all do for a living (NJC) ["Norman Pennington" ] hell test. njc SG?? ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Hell test (njc) ["mackoliver" ] What we all do for a living (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] songs to aging children come (njc, I guess) ["Marianne Rizzo" ] RE: Hell test (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: What we all do for a living (NJC) [Ken ] hell test. njc eyeballs ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: What do we all do for a living (NJC) [magsnbrei ] Re: Hell test (njc) ["mackoliver" ] Re: What we all do for a living (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: more covers from the Joniguy NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Hell test (njc) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Wally's posts and AOL (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Chinese New Year (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Tom Rush [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Chinese New Year (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Tom Rush [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Fw: Hot topic of the day NJC (& PC) (&RC!) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Hot topic of the day NJC (& PC) (&RC!) ["Steve Anderson" Subject: Re: On inventing chords Jenny Goodspeed wrote: > Here's a link to an article Les brought > to our attention a while back. It's a > VERY academic analysis of Joni's compositional > styles and use of harmony in her early career. > on the pedantic side - but the author obviously > also has a great respect and love for joni. > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1056 Very interesting article, Jenny. I want to study it further. I don't remember ever analysing music at university in terms of modes as this author does, so hopefully I can learn something about that from him. Probably an understanding of modal harmonic analysis is essential to being able to talk about Joni's chord progressions intelligently. I was thinking last night of some other guitar songs that have dramatic chord changes - like Help Me and The Jungle Line. It would be interesting to look at these. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:42:33 -0000 From: Gaythorne Silvester Subject: RE: Why would someone be cutting? Yes, Mike Pritchard, Brewer's Phrase and Fable is a terrific reference book. Recommend it to any who's interested in English usage. Still very much in print. Haven't got mine to hand but there's another type of cutting to mention; 'feeling cut up' -- dejected, miserable... don't hear it much nowadays but it's rather a useful expression here (I'm in England). Don't know if you use it in the States. One word I would like to keep in circulation is 'fortnight' - for two weeks - literally 'fourteen nights' - which again I feel is in use more over here, (is it?) but only just clinging on. Luckily a magazine which publishes every two weeks has been employing it on billboards which should give it a boost. Finally - a bit of JC - does Joni ever contribute to this digest? It must be strange for her to have all this Joni-talk going on and hard for her not to join in at times... GS ************************************ Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in the message (or responsible for the delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply Email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet Email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Redwood shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by them. ************************************ Any issues should be addressed to: postmaster@redwoodgroup.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:08:23 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Sacred Harp - Cold Mountain (NJC) Catherine wrote: > I sing alto in a choir/class (it's kind of like a chamber >choir, I guess). We do two or three concerts every >year and we've just started our rep for the Jan-April >term and are doing "black" music, including some South >African stuff, some African-American/gospel stuff and >some Motown. Have you (or others) ever tried singing any Sacred Harp music The US NPR show 'All Things Considered' has this on their site http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1534280.html > The songs come from a tunebook first published in > 1844, and use a system of printed shapes, instead of > standard music notation, to help untrained singers > learn how to read the music. > Sacred Harp singing isn't at all like the soaring tones > of traditional gospel music. "Sacred Harp is a whole > other thing," Block says. "This is full-body, shout-it-out > singing. The harmonies are stark and haunting -- raw, > even. In Sacred Harp, you don't want a sweet sound." I read recently that Tim Eriksen (of Cordelia's Dad), who arranged the Sacred Harp singing in 'Cold Mountain' (and was the singing voice for "Stobrod" in the film) >accompanied the cast to rain-soaked Romania, where, >through an interpreter, he taught 50 Romanian extras how >to sing that type of music....and served as a Sacred Harp >mentor to Kidman and Law, neither of whom was familiar >with this type of singing. >"Nicole is a quick study and an amazingly hard worker, >like so many folks in this picture," Eriksen says. "She's a >good treble singer. She said she liked it a lot and she might >take her kids [to a singing]." very best PaulC (who hasn't read the book, but thought the film was great - but wished the North London audience had not all walked out during the end credits, missing Alison Krauss singing Elvis Costello's 'The Scarlet Tied', and with Sting on his "You Will Be My Ain True Love". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:37:57 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) In a message dated 22/01/2004 01:48:51 GMT Standard Time, scam1@freeway.net writes: <> Hmmm, a modest 82 here - although of course I haven't been to a US Jonifest, where I'm led to believe that things are much more dissolute than at our demure UK gatherings... Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:05:55 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) --- AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > > Hmmm, a modest 82 here - although of course I > haven't been to a US Jonifest, > where I'm led to believe that things are much more > dissolute than at our > demure UK gatherings... Even when I went back and re-did the thing (to get a more hellish score), I came in at a virginal 44. Did I mention that my children came about by immaculate conception? did you know the name "Catherine" means pure? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:10:29 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Ralph loves Joni Just found this on the Ralph McTell Q&A page on his web site. I always knew he was a great guy and a man of impeccable taste. DIAMOND: In your career Ralph, have you worked with/written to other artists you admire, such as James Taylor as well as Randy Newman? RALPH: I admire most real musicians although like most musicians, I am quite hard to please. Over the years I have met but not played with James Taylor and Joni Mitchell (best album in the world "BLUE") Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, Rev Gary Davis, Memphis Slim, Jack Elliot, Derroll Adams, Stan Tracey and a few thousand more or so. I guess I just become a punter in the sense that I just like to be in the same room with my musical heroes like everyone else. I worked with the Everly Bros which was great. I suppose I like the unattainable dream as much as the reality. It is so hard to find the right words to express your admiration for the quality of heroesb contribution to your own happiness. I usually just end up saying "Thanks". I also extend that to those I will never meet and those who have gone before. I was asked recently by the bloke cutting my hair what was the latest CD I had bought. My answer produced complete silence when I said King Oliver and Louis Armstrong Hot Five and Hot Seven recordings from the twenties! Jacky (NP Covers and contributions Vol 49 - Wow!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:59:44 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: What do we all do for a living (NJC) I'll jump in here too. I'm still a student. I am doing MSc in Cognitive Neuropsychology at Univeristy of London. It's not at all what i expected but i enjoy it a lot (well mostly.... with a little help from buckets of tea from a local starbucks!!) I had in my head one idea of what this course would entail before i moved to London last August; it is entirely different. SO, this means that i am getting an education on which i had not planned. i am involved in a research project investigating motor and cognitive functions in some young people with Asperger's Syndrome. I have only just started on this, but god knows i talked the ears off poor Chris Marshall a couple of weeks ago when i stayed in Cambrdige for a night (thanks again!!). I find it pretty exciting. I think we will also use information from brain scans to help make sense of this. And, to pay the rent, my part time job is supporting adults with learning disabilities in activities of daily life. Im still new to this too, but it's certainly better than my old starbucks job ( a hell of a lot better!). I like the standpoint of the organisation for which i work; they promote self advocacy and community involvement. other than that i like to go to the theatre (saw a great play a while ago at the Royal Court theatre called Loyal Women), have a drink or two, and other stuff, which includes the odd bit of listening to Joni:-) GARRET np- some guy called Jack Johnson - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:10:07 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Hot topic of the day NJC Catherine, your remarks made me sigh and think to myself, "if only..." - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:26 PM To: Kate Bennett; Joni@Smoe. Org Subject: Re: Hot topic of the day NJC "...Maybe if these sanctimonious creatures looked inside their own hearts, they'd find a little there, and realize that we're all just human." ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:42:14 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: What do we all do for a living (NJC) I am a University Librarian for the University of South Florida SAt. Petersburg. I run the Media Department, which also delivers all the learning technologies for the entire campus. I work hard, and do not get paid enough :-) Jerry, a long time member and fan of the JMDL, and Les! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:46:55 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Wally's posts and AOL (NJC) > << From: Emiliano > Subject: Fw: What do we all do for a living (VLJC) (for AOL users) > > Wally says [remember, I'm only forwarding wally's posts since they don't > make, strangely, their way to AOL users] >> > > Emiliano: I'm using a Mac on AOL and I read Wally"s posts with no problem. > > Kenny B Hi, Kenny, could this be because you use a Mac? Sorry for if you feel disturbed receiving some post twice. Are, now, other AmericaOnLine users (Bob M, Bob S, Ashara, Michael, Jimmy, Azeem, Laura, David, etc) receiving wally's post directly? If so, let me know it, please Yours truly: Emiliano PS: Having a Wonderful time... I expect you too! NP: Psycho Killer, David Byrne & Richard Thompson (hi, Debra, this is for you!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:56:41 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Joni for Kids Hmmm, lovely thread, indeed! First, you must assume that here, when your friend is stumbling across the live performances of Joni, all the girls start yelling: "Oh, no, Emi, no more Joni for now!" (sigh!) The first one it came to my mind is, for sure, Dreamland!!! Why? It's so important to keep on dreaming, to stimulate dreams! ... and I think its rhythm is very catchy Emiliano Lori : > This reminds me of a thread I wanted to start ... I think it may have > gone around the block here before but let's give it a shot anyway: > > If you were to record a CD or cassette of Joni songs for a child, for > what age child would you record it and what songs would you include? > Why? > > Rather than list all of the songs I would include, I'm going to name > the first three that pop into my head: > > Big Yellow Taxi > Marcie > The Circle Game > Catherine: > Michael from mountains > Morning Morgantown > Sisotowbell Lane > Chelsea Morning > Ladies of the canyon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:09:09 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Songs to aging Children (shudder) Come. NJC Ditto, Russ, ditto. Threshhold of Survival: the end of balance between the growth of a species and the natural resources needed to sustain it. (Prelude to extinction, is my understanding...) End of Paradise (Threshhold of Survival) c 1999 We're led to believe everything is alright By TV ads and powers that be 'The sky is blue with birds in flight' Just ignore the progress spewing from the factories Cancer hot spots underneath the powerlines Everything wild is now in a zoo Mankind is chained to consumer stupidity Stripping down the Earth for me and for you... Is this the threshhold of survival? Must we destroy the land, the sea and the sky? My question lies... Is this the End of Paradise? I hear kids wanting kids of their own With house and car and cash in hand The American Dream is gone Out the back door will be a barren wasteland Mexico was once a vast rainforest 'Til Cortez had to have the biggest fleet Will we find the key to our happiness As we trample everything under our feet? Is this the threshhold of survival? Must we destroy the land, the sea and the sky? The question lies... Is this the End of Paradise? It's not just pollution in the air Or the need to cut down every tree Chemical waste is buried everywhere How do I know what is safe to eat? Trash is a mile high underneath the shipping lanes Of the North Atlantic sea Ocean viruses beaching the dolphins by the thousands- the cure just out of our reach... Have we reached the threshhold of survival? Must we destroy our land, our sea and our sky? Don't close your eyes... This could be the End of Paradise... Steve At 10:05 AM 1/21/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Gang, > >This should get me banned from the list.......OK....so I'm one of >those rotten nasty people who is all for ZERO POPULATION GROWTH...I >mean...where the hell are these little people going to live in 30 or 40 >years?? STOP THE MADNESS.....ADOPT!!!!!!!!!!! Songs for people who are >thinking about have a dozen kids or so: > >Little Green > >Chinese Cafe > >Ethiopia > >Sex Kills > >Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm (Beat of Black Wings) > >The Fiddle and the Drum > >Harry's House > >...and they might try reading that forgotten classic...The Populaiton >Bomb by Paul Erlich..I think. > > > >Russ in Hawai'i.....where there is apparently no such thing as birth >control. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips >here. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:14:47 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) Hmmmm... My score was 188. But I did live in San Francisco for ten years from my late twenties to my late thirties, so I'm grateful my score isn't even higher. I guess I'm going straight to hell. But first, I have to go to work. Bye, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:54:02 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni for Kids, by kids Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) Oh Shit, Oh Dear... 185 here. I scored the most points during my "service" in Southeast Asia, among other places. Life is SO much more sedate, now... Best Regards, bp NPIMH: AC/DC's "Highway to Hell" Suze wrote: > http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/helltest.swf> > http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/helltest.swf > > My score? A whopping 127, most of which were accrued at > JoniFests around the world ;-) > > Suze > > n.p. Jonatha Brooke & The Story "Nothing Scared" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:00:12 -0600 From: Subject: Hell test (njc) Kakki wrote, in response to Suze: "I scored a dull "normal" 67 but must admit some of those points were accrued at Jonifests, too. LOL" Hmmm. . .my paltry 83 has some company! But NONE of those points--OK, very few of them--were accrued at Jonifests. Wonder what would happen if I started trying?? ;-) Mary. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:16:51 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) Suze wrote: > My score? A whopping 127, most of which were accrued at > JoniFests around the world ;-) Then Kakki admitted: > I scored a dull "normal" 67 but must admit some of those points were > accrued at Jonifests, too. LOL Now me: I had no idea there was so much eyeball-licking going on at JoniFest! Lori, who thinks she must have missed *something* during the last 3 Fests (and who, btw, scored a 145) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:18:03 -0500 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: addition to jmdl guitar database Check out the latest addition to the JMDL guitar database: Hejira Tablature by Eyolf Xstrem Marian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:17:41 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: more covers from the Joniguy I got a treat in the post today. It was volume 49 of "Covers and Contributions" from Bob. Normally, I have to say that I'm not too keen on cover versions. I nearly always prefer the original especially where singer- songwriters are concerned but maybe it's a credit to Joni's writing that a real hotchpotch of performers have produced some very listenable versions on this album and some are stunningly good. There is so much good stuff that I can't mention them all but there are some real stand-outs. Bob's choice of The Beat of Black Wings as an opener is great followed by 2 lovely instrumental versions of BSN and ACOY by The End Phenomena and Matthew Kern respectively - (who on earth are they?) Harry Belafonte singing BSN is interesting (at least I've heard of him as I have Sheena Easton and Nazarath but that's about it.) Other favourites are Goodbye Pork Pie Hat by Ralph Towner and Gary Burton, a jazzy Fiddle and the Drum by Danilo Perez and an instrumental Michael from Mountains by Cindy Keller Wittenberg and Tracy Dietrich (where does he find them!) I think I can live without the last 4 tracks because I'm all Joni covered out by then. Official release date is Feb I'm told so don't be afraid to get one. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:33:02 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) i got a 206!!!!!!! WHAT AM I? wally, 666 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:30:52 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) 44?? 44??!!! You do have this saintly look about you. And Suze Cameron 167?!! I know who we all should be spending more time with at the fest. Bree >Even when I went back and re-did the thing (to get a >more hellish score), I came in at a virginal 44. Did I >mention that my children came about by immaculate >conception? did you know the name "Catherine" means pure? > >===== >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:35:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) well, i got the 206 without ever having licked an eyeball. incidentally, what's so sinful about licking an eyeball? wally ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:33:43 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) Oh Ken..you coming to the fest? WOW!!! Bree >Hmmmm... >My score was 188. But I did live in San Francisco for ten years from my >late >twenties to my late thirties, so I'm grateful my score isn't even higher. >I >guess I'm going straight to hell. But first, I have to go to work. >Bye, >Ken _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:33:27 -0600 From: "mackoliver" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) Score 120. oops mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:37:00 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) >Kakki wrote, in response to Suze: > >"I scored a dull "normal" 67 but must admit some of those points were >accrued >at Jonifests, too. LOL" > >Hmmm. . .my paltry 83 has some company! But NONE of those points--OK, very >few of them--were accrued at Jonifests. This was my score..too..83!! Sympatico. Bree >Wonder what would happen if I started trying?? ;-) > >Mary. _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:41:24 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) 202--straight to hell,and no eyeball licking either! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Bree Mcdonough Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:37 AM To: blckcrow@chorus.net; kakkib@vzavenue.net; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) >Kakki wrote, in response to Suze: > >"I scored a dull "normal" 67 but must admit some of those points were >accrued >at Jonifests, too. LOL" > >Hmmm. . .my paltry 83 has some company! But NONE of those points--OK, very >few of them--were accrued at Jonifests. This was my score..too..83!! Sympatico. Bree >Wonder what would happen if I started trying?? ;-) > >Mary. _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:26:43 -0700 From: "Norman Pennington" Subject: What do we all do for a living (NJC) Current: Retired...twice. Once from the USAF (thank you, US taxpayers...rest assured I'm not spending your tax dollars frivolously) and once from Electronic Data Systems (EDS), Ross Perot's old Information Technology (IT) services company. Past Lives in chronological order: Apricot picker in San Jose, CA orchards, landscape laborer, fry cook for Mickey D's, tire mounter/buster, latrine cleaner, radar repairman/technician, electronic warfare technician, project manager, program manager (Part I), technical writer, proposal writer, manager of IT services delivery, program manager (Part II), Director of Operations for a small SFO web services firm. Hobbies: Motorcycles (ex-racer, dirt and track), top-down Miata exploratory adventures on back roads, RVing, FOOD!, travel, reading, pushing buttons on the Left side of the dial, and other "old man" stuff. Twice divorced, three kids (all boys: 37, 35, and almost 7 ), five grandchildren (four girls, one boy), semi-attached. Joni influence: ummm...not sure, but there is certainly SOME influence. Best Regards, bp NPIMH: Grateful Dead's "Truckin'" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:51:31 -0600 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) 187 for me. looks like we have enough for the JMDL mini-fest from hell, so to speak.... me and richard and ken and wally.... but how am i supposed to accrue *more* points with that group??? cindy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:53:05 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: hell test. njc SG?? I think the reason Guzzi didn't post her results is because: 1. She is ashamed. NO WAY!! 2. She is trying all the questions on for size before tallying up. 3. She really lives in a nunnery. 4. Her tally WAS NOT able to be registered. IT EXCEEDED 5. She is giving the" eyeball" thing a few test runs before commiting. Bree still waiting.... _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:54:05 -0600 From: "mackoliver" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) 44. Surely you jest. I turn bright red from embarrassment reading that score. ha ha. mack > --- AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hmmm, a modest 82 here - although of course I > > haven't been to a US Jonifest, > > where I'm led to believe that things are much more > > dissolute than at our > > demure UK gatherings... > > Even when I went back and re-did the thing (to get a > more hellish score), I came in at a virginal 44. Did I > mention that my children came about by immaculate > conception? did you know the name "Catherine" means pure? > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:55:09 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: What we all do for a living (NJC) I have really enjoyed reading all of these posts so I will add mine to the list: I am the receptionist for the NBA Washington Wizards, the WNBA Washignton Mystics, and MCI Center Events. I am fortunate because I am able to interact with the players as well as the coaching staff and I've been able to make some very good contacts as well. Working for a sports franchise is very interesting, very fun, and very hard work-wise. We put in a lot of hours during each season. Each of us work an eight hour day and then go across the street to the MCI Center to work a particular function during the actual game. I really enjoy the job because it encompasses entertainment as well as good marketing. Even when your team is going through a tough time, you have to still try to fill those seats. My particular franchise owner treats us like his family is a very wondrful man. It is very refreshing to see people who are very, very rich, yet very real. I am very proud of how our owner, Abe Pollin gives back to others. He is "the law of reciprocity" in action. Even though I love it here, I made a decision to take a stand to pursue a music career a couple of years ago. It's tough because I have really grown to love it here and I could easily see myself working for this organization indefinitely. I have had to learn how to follow my heart no matter how lonely or unpopular the road. Music is where my soul is and it's not something I can do part time or as a hobby. I tried to in the past, but failed miserably. So now I am playing a waiting game for an independent record label that has expressed interest in signing me as an artist and in letting me join the staff with artist development. They are new and just getting off the ground so there will be no "bling-bling" (what a silly word!) or quitting of the day job just yet. For those of you I have shared this information with in the past, I will tell you that the interest is still there. The person who approached me from the label emailed me Monday to say that he'd just gotten back from New York with "musch good news" and would like us to talk this weekend. I will keep my JMDL family posted. And for my last act of shameless self promotion (Smile)...No really, my daughter has been so supportive in updating my website with music clips and other information so I would like to share it with you: www.sherellecarysmith.com That's it for me! Sherelle (who uses her maiden name "Cary" when performing to honor her parents now deceased who dreamed this dream for her) _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:07:49 -0800 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) 204 for me! ACK! no eyeball licking either Stephen in vancouver Quoting Wally Kairuz : > well, i got the 206 without ever having licked an eyeball. incidentally, > what's so sinful about licking an eyeball? > wally ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:23:46 -0700 From: "Norman Pennington" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) Wally asked: > what's so sinful about licking an eyeball? My interpretation (YMMV) was: "if you'll lick an eyeball, you'll lick ANYTHING..." Buck, who shouldn't EVER explore the "deeper meaning"... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:27:49 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: songs to aging children come (njc, I guess) I like your selections Russ. I too have been concerned about population growth. Well, if every body is consumating and having all these children then maybe it is natural. . . .but I read somewhere that the population has doubled in my lifetime (I'm 43). Because I care about the quality of the environment. I also care about over consumption. I also care about land preservation and conserving habitats for animals (and animal species). . . . . . .Sounds like I am saying "I care, I care I care." a lot. Sometimes its easy NOT to care ( isn't there a Joni line in there somewhere?). Which reminds me, right about the time of "the mind field" (maybe I was 13) I had an 11 year old friend named Kelly Doherty. We used to have this button (pin) that we used to share. Sometimes she would wear it , sometimes I would wear it. I remember it was black and white. It simply said, "I Care." Anyway, over population. . . what do you think? love to all. . . (except the imposters) Marianne >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:05:06 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Songs to aging Children (shudder) Come. JC= song titles Gang, This should get me banned from the list.......OK....so I'm one of those rotten nasty people who is all for ZERO POPULATION GROWTH...I mean...where the hell are these little people going to live in 30 or 40 years?? STOP THE MADNESS.....ADOPT!!!!!!!!!!! Songs for people who are thinking about have a dozen kids or so: Little Green Chinese Cafe Ethiopia Sex Kills Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm (Beat of Black Wings) The Fiddle and the Drum Harry's House ...and they might try reading that forgotten classic...The Populaiton Bomb by Paul Erlich..I think. Russ in Hawai'i.....where there is apparently no such thing as birth control.< - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:37:48 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) stephen! you devil! w > -----Mensaje original----- > De: frasere@intergate.ca [mailto:frasere@intergate.ca] > Enviado el: Jueves, 22 de Enero de 2004 02:08 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz > CC: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: RE: Hell test (njc) > > > 204 for me! ACK! no eyeball licking either > Stephen in vancouver > > Quoting Wally Kairuz : > > > well, i got the 206 without ever having licked an eyeball. incidentally, > > what's so sinful about licking an eyeball? > > wally ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:41:17 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Hell test (njc) wait a sec, i've licked eyelids and eyelashes. doesn't that count? wally, going for the kill > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Norman Pennington [mailto:buckpennington@yucca.net] > Enviado el: Jueves, 22 de Enero de 2004 02:24 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Hell test (njc) > > > Wally asked: > > > what's so sinful about licking an eyeball? > > My interpretation (YMMV) was: "if you'll lick an eyeball, you'll lick > ANYTHING..." > > Buck, who shouldn't EVER explore the "deeper meaning"... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:39:10 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: What we all do for a living (NJC) Don't post to often to the list anymore but I read most of what is posted. I work for a grocery store chain on the night staff. Pack my section and do the cash (we're open 24/7). They've just enlarged our store but kept open anyway meaning we have had to put up with skycranes and an assortment of construction workers jackhammers arch welders and what ever else they could throw at us. It's been interesting to say the least. Tonight I was lucky enough to come up with a couple of free tickets to a CBC radio taping of Routes-Montreal. The show tonight will have Sarah Harmer performing a some songs off her upcoming CD. Release date in March. Hope I can get a couple of pictures with my new digital camera. Back to the shadows again. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:53:07 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: hell test. njc eyeballs Wally.... I like to lick if glass only. Someone just wrote me off list and said Susan DID not post her score because she is tied up at the moment. She is really a hands on girl. 7. she is busy trying all 55 positions for question # 22 Bree _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up  fast & reliable Internet access with prime features! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=dialup/home&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:53:52 -0800 (PST) From: magsnbrei Subject: Re: What do we all do for a living (NJC) Hi, my name is Mags, and I also work as a librarian, in our community library. I work the circ desk. Love being surrounded by books and feel lucky to work with a wonderful and supportive staff. One of my pet peeves, so many books, so little time to read. Another, being underpaid. (i hear ya Jerry). My job is a bit of a juggling act, rounding up kids and tending to the needs of our patrons of all sizes shapes and colours. I love the diversity of this place immensely. I'm part social worker, riot police and finder of good books for patrons to read. I get to take part in the processing of new books and love being in on the latest reads. Not to mention selling local honey across the counter. Never a dull moment, as they say. Im a writer, a calligraphic artist, someone who loves hiking and taking photographic images of my friends. Catching the essence of friends is my favourite aspect of photography. I love the work of Annie Leibovitz and Yusef Karsh, and if I had to choose one landscape photographer, Ansel Adams. Here's to the f64 club! . I spend a great deal of time writing letters by hand as well as via the internet, to friends and family all over this globe. Im so happy doing that. what else would I like to do? just a few things on the list...learn to play guitar...navigate a canoe, write a book or two........find a way to live in Canada, hopefully near or in Vancouver. and most of all, I want to travel to the UK and Holland and see if I can fit Barcelona into the mix. Mags np: Beth Orton, Central Reservation. notaro@stpt.usf.edu wrote: I am a University Librarian for the University of South Florida SAt. Petersburg. I run the Media Department, which also delivers all the learning technologies for the entire campus. I work hard, and do not get paid enough :-) Jerry, a long time member and fan of the JMDL, and Les! ***** your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle everything i do is stitched with its colour. w.s.merwin Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! ***** your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle everything i do is stitched with its colour. w.s.merwin Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:54:19 -0600 From: "mackoliver" Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) wonder what joni has licked. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:55:00 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: What we all do for a living (NJC) > http://www.sherellecarysmith.com/ Well that certainly ROCKS (or perhaps JAZZES is a better word), Sherelle!! Very, very nice. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:56:03 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) 137. I'm just enjoying myself. Of course, that 10 point jump with the question about having sex with someone of the same sex threw my score. Is there any other way????? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:04:11 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: more covers from the Joniguy NJC Hey, thanks for the plug, Jacky. Even though I've never had the pleasure of meeting you I just somehow thought you'd enjoy this collection, so I'm glad my hunch was right! I'll do the formal 21-gun announcement of #49 in a week or so, but I will mention an interesting anecdote about the "End Phenomena" track. From what I can tell, this was basically Emile Pandolfi's group that toured and recorded in the UK back in the late 60's, early 70's. Emile is still recording and now makes his home in Greenville, SC! He plays a big part in our local Little Theatre's Christmas production each year. The LP that I bought had even been autographed by him! And as it happened, at the time I got it my son was dating a girl whose Mom was good friends with Mr. Pandolfi, so I was happy to give it to her as a surprise gift to him. What a small, small world. Bob NP: Kevin Gilbert, "Shrug" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:32:43 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Hell test (njc) a whopping 176 for me, and only 173 at a Jonifest. it's so good that i don't have to pay for sex at jonifest! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:39:49 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Wally's posts and AOL (NJC) In a message dated 1/22/2004 10:09:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, emilianopd@mundo-r.com writes: > Are, now, other AmericaOnLine users (Bob M, Bob S, Ashara, Michael, Jimmy, > Azeem, Laura, David, etc) receiving wally's post directly? If so, let me > know it, please > I'm not on a mac Emiliano, and I very much appreciate your posting Wally's post, even though I miss his clever birthday announcements so much! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:18:52 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Chinese New Year (NJC) It's the year of the monkey, and that's my sign! What does this mean Wally? Will I get fame and fortune this year? You know everything! Joni's sign is the goat. Is that why she sang about the goat dance? Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:21:52 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Tom Rush Going to see Tom Rush tomorrow night. In Today9s Weekender is a Hot Ticket promo with picture and story. From the story: Fans know that Rush, 62, has always been a champion of new talent, and, for a while there, he was one of the few artists singing songs by an unknown Joni Mitchell. (Oh, sure, sure, now EVERYONE loves Joni!) Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:29:30 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Chinese New Year (NJC) > It's the year of the monkey, and that's my sign! What does this mean Wally? It means I now know the name of that monkey on my back! Jerry :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:40:37 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tom Rush And an unknown James Taylor, and an unknown Jackson Browne... Tom had a darn good ear! Of course, besides "Urge For Going" he also did "Tin Angel" & "The Circle Game" which he chose as the name of the LP. Enjoy the gig Jerry...I'm planning on seeing RLJ on the 30th. Bob NP: Steve Goldberger & The Fringe Locals, "Weekends With The Local Fringe" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:07:03 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Fw: Hot topic of the day NJC (& PC) (&RC!) Steve >This has all been publicized before and while I don't agree with hardly any of Bush's tactics or policies or ideas I question the validity and the prepartion that went into the article. For someone to study the book of Revelation and keep referring to it as the book of Revelations is somewhat akin to Dean talking about Job from the New Testament. Jesus said the meek would inherit the earth not the power hungry.< I knew gwb was a christian conservative but didn't realize how direct his roots to promise keepers were... As a result of some up close & personal experiences with members of that group I can only say I am not impressed with their world view... Religion can be either healing or harmful depending on the spiritual & emotional maturity of the human being involved... When inclusive it is healing, when divisive it is harmful... My feeling is that those who are born again are indeed young in their spirituality... & I have never understood what it is about evangelists that motivates their need to convert others to their own way of thinking... My own spirituality has grown & changed over the years & has taught me that the human ego is something to keep a close eye on when on the spiritual path... It has taught me that there are so many paths up the mountain & that until we reach the top of the mountain we can't see the whole view... & that the direct experience of "god" (or whatever name is preferred) is the most inclusive, peaceful & loving experience... It is interesting that some use the plural when they describe the book of revelation... I realize that I do too & I don't know why that is other than to say I think it is commonly (if mistakenly) used... I often think about the meek inheriting the earth... I hope it means those who are humble & kind & loving... I hope it doesn't mean the insects :~} ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:16:34 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Tom Rush > Joni Mitchell. > > > And an unknown James Taylor, and an unknown Jackson Browne... > Tom had a darn good ear! > > Of course, besides "Urge For Going" he also did "Tin Angel" > & "The Circle Game" which he chose as the name of the LP. > > Enjoy the gig Jerry...I'm planning on seeing RLJ on the 30th. > > Bob > > NP: Steve Goldberger & The Fringe Locals, "Weekends With The > Local Fringe" > I see RLJ six days later in Tampa. Also, going to see Judy Collins on the 28th here and a great photo and story about her in this morning's paper. In it they mention that as popular as Judy made BSN, most people still don't know that Joni wrote it. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:48:59 -0600 From: "Steve Anderson" Subject: Re: Hot topic of the day NJC (& PC) (&RC!) Revelations or revelation. The book is supposed to be a revelation of jesus christ and nothing more. not end times or last days or prophecy etc. i believe the book is used as scare tactics to keep people going to church giving moeny walking under the law instead of the good news which it was supposed to be. if you notice jesus criticized and fought against the religious systems and not against the sinners. he drank wine, ran around with at least one prostitute (see how many of our pastors today would be cuaght dead doing that) He wasn't image conscience but called the religous leaders white washed tombs who look good on the outside but inside are full of dead man's bones. Do all thes things for show. (prayer in school was never an issue in jesus times.. he said what you do in public you receive your reward what you do in private has great reward. fasting etc. prayer in school is an outward showing of a faith that doesn't need to be publicized. i wonder how many minutes or hours these same people pray in private without anyone watching. maybe they are trying to impress someone with their long prayers and pious manner not me. Meek shall inherit the earth Kate not the self righteous. Love you all. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Bennett" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: Fw: Hot topic of the day NJC (& PC) (&RC!) > Steve >This has all been publicized before and while I don't agree with > hardly any of Bush's tactics or policies or ideas I question the > validity and the prepartion that went into the article. For someone to > study the book of Revelation and keep referring to it as the book of > Revelations is somewhat akin to Dean talking about Job from the New > Testament. Jesus said the meek would inherit the earth not the power > hungry.< > > I knew gwb was a christian conservative but didn't realize how direct > his roots to promise keepers were... As a result of some up close & > personal experiences with members of that group I can only say I am not > impressed with their world view... > > Religion can be either healing or harmful depending on the spiritual & > emotional maturity of the human being involved... When inclusive it is > healing, when divisive it is harmful... My feeling is that those who > are born again are indeed young in their spirituality... & I have never > understood what it is about evangelists that motivates their need to > convert others to their own way of thinking... My own spirituality has > grown & changed over the years & has taught me that the human ego is > something to keep a close eye on when on the spiritual path... It has > taught me that there are so many paths up the mountain & that until we > reach the top of the mountain we can't see the whole view... & that the > direct experience of "god" (or whatever name is preferred) is the most > inclusive, peaceful & loving experience... > > It is interesting that some use the plural when they describe the book > of revelation... I realize that I do too & I don't know why that is > other than to say I think it is commonly (if mistakenly) used... > > I often think about the meek inheriting the earth... I hope it means > those who are humble & kind & loving... I hope it doesn't mean the > insects :~} ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2004 #40 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)