From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #633 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 23 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 633 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors (for AOL users) [Emiliano ] RE: vernor's njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: vernor's njc [vince ] Re: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors [David Sadowski ] Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC [tantra-apso ] Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC and it gets sillier ["Lucy Hone" ] njc right or left this is not pc ["Paul Mepschen" ] Re: Memoir ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Here we go again - NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Date for boot ["Kevin Arshad" ] Re: Here we go again - NJC [Emiliano ] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC ["ron" ] RE: Here we go again - NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: right or left? NJC this is not PC ["Wally Kairuz" ] NJC.......Dec. 23rd [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Here we go again - NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: NJC.......Dec. 23rd ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Rock & roll NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Fw: vernor's njc (for AOL users) [Catherine McKay ] RE: Here we go again - NJC [Catherine McKay ] Fw: NJC.......Dec. 23rd (for AOL users) [Emiliano ] Re: vernor's njc ["Lori Fye" ] Re: vernor's njc ["Lori Fye" ] (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors vs. Dr. Pepper ["Lori Fye" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:09:22 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors (for AOL users) Wally says: > oh lori! my dream come true!!!!! > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: Lori Fye [mailto:lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com] > > Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Diciembre de 2003 01:27 a.m. > > Para: Wally Kairuz; joni > > Asunto: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors > > > > > > > > I would lie on the couch and watch TV and > > drink Vernor's ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:10:21 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: right or left? NJC this is not PC (for AOL users) Wally says: > ok, i hate to betray the secrets of my tribe, but here it goes. > http://www.drizzle.com/~elf/faqs/hankies.html > wally, more into kleenex these days > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: Ash > > > > > > On 22 Dec 2003, at 0:16, ash wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me what or was the codes of handkerchiefs and > > > earrings?? > > > as most of you are intellectuals? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:33:45 -0500 From: vince Subject: vernor's njc Vernor's of course was/is a Detroit product and I remember the old original Vernor's plant when it still operated (only because I am also old and original), I was taken there as if to see a holy place when I first moved to the Detroit area back in 77. You could even smell the ginger... If one likes ginger ale, Vernor's is the creme de la creme, it gets no better. and then there is Vernor's ice cream... don't you all wish you lived in Michigan? I can walk maybe 600 feet from my door and get all the Vernor's I want 24 hours a day (except Christmas, damn it) at the local Meijers (and Michigan residents, note that in this town, Greenville, we have store #1... it started here...) but I want to know how all kinds of non Michiganders, which is to say, aliens from Michigan my Michigan, know of Vernor's. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 05:53:27 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: vernor's njc well, i became addicted to vernor's in detroit, where else? ah, vernor's is to ginger ale what joni is to songwriting. wally, now really CRAVING for quarts and quarts of vernor's. to think i have to content myself with schweppes... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:56:53 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: vernor's njc Wally Kairuz wrote: >well, i became addicted to vernor's in detroit, where else? >ah, vernor's is to ginger ale what joni is to songwriting. >wally, now really CRAVING for quarts and quarts of vernor's. to think i have >to content myself with schweppes... > Things from Detroit: Joni's emerging career Vernor's Eminem (that was my gratuitous Marshall Mathers reference of the day) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:20:38 -0600 From: David Sadowski Subject: Re: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors Maybe I should fix myself a bowl of piping hot Vernor's right now. Speaking of Ginger Ale, though, here in Chicago the Berghoff restaurant has made their own ginger ale for decades and that's really good too. Along with the ginger ale, how about a bag of Vitner's potato chips? Lori Fye wrote: >Wally wrote: > > > >>nothing, Nothing, NOTHING compares to vernor's ginger ale. >>when i die, i want my body pumped full of vernor's ginger ale and >>fountains squirting jets of vernor's ginger ale for everyone to bathe >>in ... >> >> > >It's true, what Wally says. Nothing compares to Vernor's. When I was >little (maybe 3 or 4 years old) and feeling ill, my Grandma Ethel -- >who used to work in a nursing home and had access to these things -- >would take an IV tube, boil it to sterilize it, and put one end of it >in my mouth and the other end in a bottle of Vernor's that she'd placed >across the living room. I would lie on the couch and watch TV and >drink Vernor's from this extremely long "straw." This kept me >entertained AND literally made me feel better. > >Vernor's is delicious and it's powerful, like chicken soup. > >Happy Hanukkah, >Lori : ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:30:02 +0000 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC ash wrote: > >This from a guy who never forgave Sabrina the Teenage Witch for dumping Harvey >and for her growing up......I wish I had aunts like her!!! > When I wa growing up, my role model was Samantha. Still wish twitching my nose produced results... > >Ash > > > - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:20:45 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Subject: RE: coca cola njc >>nothing, Nothing, NOTHING compares to vernor's ginger ale. when i die, i want my body pumped full of vernor's ginger ale and fountains squirting jets of vernor's ginger ale for everyone to bathe in and the PA system playing salome's final scene sung by dame gwyneth jones. that is my desire. wally<< And you are surprised that they won't let you in the USA, or out of Argentina?? meic ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:35:22 -0000 From: "Lucy Hone" Subject: Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC and it gets sillier Chris Marshall commented on the CODE for hankies and earrings!!!! I love this though "Is there a hanky code to signify to someone that... "I'd like to spend an afternoon in the countryside with you, then go for dinner somewhere nice, take a leisurely walk home, put some music on, and make up the rest of the spur of the moment"??? Maybe an Ordinance Survey ramblers map hanging from your back pocket?" I mean that is what we would all like isnt it.. some way of spending time with people before you have to get to the push and shove of the bedroom... Mind you who am I to comment.. hetero, happy and attached,,, but I have been there and think the map idea is a good one.... Years ago I thought that going around with a face like a wet Tuesday would get me someone kind and caring who would make all my "troubles disappear" but that was a waste of time.. trying to be like JOni or Joan Baez resulted in more people running away than every stopped to hear me sing.. Trying to be the LIFE ANDF SOUL of the party I ended up with a reputation for being the first one to suggest we all dance on tables, and BEING THE QUIET ONE IN THE CORNER I ended up being asked if I was OK all the time and that drove me nuts..... I have therefore decided to start up new way to date... It will involve you wearing a sandwich board.. ON the front and back will be your interests, favourite quotes, testimonials from your friends, questions you want answering, and a picture of you naked since the board will cover your physical assets up with no problem..... This is a real "cut out the middleman dating agency" thing (although that is how I met Frank) and will encourage you to GET OUT THERE, and MEET PEOPLE... OK so you will be advertising the fact you are single but what the hell.. you are not having a good time anyway so go for broke, get out there..... advertise..... YOur sandwich board available from Loony Luce's Lonley-no-more- Corp.... I realise this is a totally silly post but hey it is the cold season and if this makes you laugh then you will warm up.. and, since people like to date happy people.. you may just get a date!!!! Forget hankies, forget earrings... get a sandwich board!!!! Happy what ever season of festival it is for you and have a wonderful time. Take care, be good, be sincere and be kind.... Thank all of you for being my friends this year, you have all made a difference. Lucy..who is now off to buy tons of timber and hardboard to make the sandwich boards I am sure you are all going to demand!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:42:52 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: vernor's njc (for AOL users) Emiliano, sobbing: I don't know Vernor's at all, and I love Ginger Ale! (alone or mixed) Wally says: > well, i became addicted to vernor's in detroit, where else? > ah, vernor's is to ginger ale what joni is to songwriting. > wally, now really CRAVING for quarts and quarts of vernor's. > to think i have to content myself with schweppes... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:22:18 +0100 From: "Paul Mepschen" Subject: njc right or left this is not pc >Is there a hanky code to signify to someone that... >"I'd like to spend an afternoon in the countryside with >you, >then go for dinner somewhere nice, take a leisurely walk >home, >put some music on, and make up the rest of the spur of >the >moment"??? Maybe an Ordinance Survey ramblers map >hanging from >your back pocket? Hihi. Well --- I guess the hanky's are used mostly in environments where people might not be looking for a romantic weekend in the woods, but rather for eachothers wood. I've seen the hanky used in some of the more raunchy bars and clubs I've wandered into, but never in daily life. Anyway, lets be fair -- when is the last time you met a gay man who really was looking for a wonderful and romantic weekend in the countryside? 'd love to have his phonenumber! paul of the netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:19:21 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC I always thought if you wore a blue handkerchief in your left pocket, it meant you liked "Dog Eat Dog" :~) Jimmy, delurking briefly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:51:55 +0000 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: njc right or left this is not pc Paul Mepschen wrote: > >Anyway, lets be fair -- when is the last time you met a gay man who really was >looking for a wonderful and romantic weekend in the countryside? 'd love to >have his phonenumber! > oh i think many are, paul. I think it just gets lost in busy-ness and diversion and the idea that all we can hope for is a quick closeness as even many of us fall the lie lie that such relations are fickle and transient with no hope of permanance and depth. > >paul of the netherlands > > > - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:01:30 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Memoir Hi Julius! I'm late responding on this but wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed this story. Keep them coming, I have been collecting writings and musings from our JMDLrs for this year to donate in a book to the Jonifest 2004 auction. It should be very interesting. Take care, love donna >>> 12/19/2003 4:46:40 AM >>> Not Joni's...mine. :-) I've gotten inspirational encouragement from a dear friend on The List, so I'm gonna give it the old college try. I'll structure it as a collection of autobiographical essays and plan to intertwine posts I've made to the list over the years. Here's one, live from the archives. I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts you all might have. Thanks! - ---- I was a freshman and Wendy was a senior, but we hit it off famously and became fast friends at college in Northern California during the early 80s. She was brilliant, funny, well-read and a talented photographer. A renaissance woman if ever I knew one. I revered and adored her and she knew it. Kindly, she was gentle with my love. Going to her room was like visiting a sage in her lair, but with a bohemian twist. She had an exquisite album collection and a plethora of delightful toys and mind candy that she took pleasure in entertaining me with: her Pez dispenser collection, her eclectic little library, smooth wooden boxes of all shapes and sizes (some decorated with tiger's eye, amethyst or mother of pearl), which held caches of rare earthly treasures she'd discovered on charmed adventures. One evening she might show me pathos arousing photographs she'd taken of war torn children in El Salvador, on another she'd read me letters she had written to lovers who had broken her heart. On yet another she would light candles and incense and read to me from Sylvia Plath, Anais Nin or Hermann Hesse. Once when I came knocking she flung the door open suddenly, looked at me with mock seriousness. "One question, mister," she said. "Water colors or finger paints?" I laughed, but I still have the water color canvas we collaborated on.. From time to time she'd delight me by steathfully producing one of her wooden boxes from a cubby hole hidden behind a tie-dyed tapestry. She'd always have a glint in her eye, like something wonderful was about to happen. She'd lift the lid and say "smell this." Depending on her mood and the alignment of the stars, I might be smelling sinsemilla, saffron, myrrh or some rare aromatic potpourri. They were always bouquets my olfactory sense would be experiencing for the very first time. They are fragrances that imprinted themselves on my mind and are ever associated with Wendy and those days of our lives. . One night she said "Close your eyes, open your mouth and stick out your tongue." She gently placed an exotic raspberry tasting candy on my taste buds. A tingle ran from my head, down my spine and twinkled my toes. The only sound I could manage was "Ummm." Wendy just smiled. She had gotten them in France, she told me, then added matter-of-factly "they're magic." Before I could ask her what she meant, she took my hand and said "Come on, it's raining, let's take a walk." We walked arm and arm around campus in the drizzle, she pointed to a grove of eucalyptus trees and said they were breathing, and I'll be damned if they didn't appear to be. We found ourselves at a garden in front of the on-campus museam where there were a number of Rodin sculptures. She told me sad, tragic stories about every Burgher of Calais we encountered as I marveled at their bronzed beauty, ran my hands across their wet smoothness and bit back empathetic tears. By and by we made our way back to the dorm, jumping in puddles along the way and sometimes pausing to watch the ripples in heretofore still watter. Out of nowhere, we started singing "I Love to Walk in the Rain" from a Shirley Temple movie we had both seen independently, and we laughed till our bellies ached at the fact that we both remembered the lyrics so well. Wendy's room was toasty warm upon our return, somehow. Once again she lit candles all around and cones of incense, too. She steeped chamomile tea, which we sipped from oversized, hand-painted porcelin mugs, while we lounged in repose on her futon. She turned to me suddenly, as if she had just had an epiphany, and gazed deep into my eyes for what seemed like a long time. She was smiling mysteriously, in a manner that put me in mind of the Mona Lisa, or Buddha. She seemed to me to be sizing me up, as if to see if I was worthy of what she was contemplating. Finally, she got up and skipped over to the plastic milk crates that housed her album collection, alphabetically. She found what she was looking for with ease, then carefully reached in with her fingertips and slid the record out of its protective sleeve. In the candlelight I could only make out a dark album cover with a blurry figure of a woman's face on the cover. She was handling the disc like some kind of precious heirloom though, cradling it along the edges between her palms. She placed it on the turntable and cleaned it with a velvet swab after putting a few drops of something in a small red plastic bottle on it. Gingerly, she dropped the needle on the vinyl, then hurried back to be by my side. She held my hand within the soft caress of both of hers. Only a few measures into the first song I felt myself becoming rapturous. The beauty of the voice and music that filled the astounded me. I listened intently to the lyrics and was profoundly moved by the portraits of disappointment and pain. Once again I had to suppress my weep reflex, like I had while experiencing the Rodin sculptures. I was absorbed and enthralled, and was hearing music that had a visceral, emotional effect on me like no music ever had before, like I felt when first smelling Wendy's myrrh. I sat rapt for the entire album side, then pleaded to hear the other. Wendy must've seen the amazement and wonder written on my face after the last lingering note of "The Last Time I Saw Richard" and pre-empted my inevitable questions. "Joni Mitchell," she said. "Blue." - -Julius This message has been scanned by the E250. This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:59:40 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC Dear Emiliano, Sorry this is a week late-I was incapacitated last week! (Pooh!) Everything went very well. I wasn't feeling well and was a little disoriented and I paused a few seconds because I thought I forgot the words. It turns out that I didn't. I closed my eyes and belted out the rest of the song. I'm glad I did because that's all anyone remembers. I think I have an idea about what it is about the national anthem that makes everyone so particular and persnicketty (sp?) about it. The song means a lot to me because of my father and my family who were and still are in the military, but poor Robert Goulet is still getting hate mail over saying "By the dawn's early night" instead of "By the dawn's early light". After doing an interview for the Washington Times as well as for Voice of America radio, it was very clear to me how people react when something goes amiss with the singing of the anthem. So when I paused, I thought my life as a singer was over before it even began, especially since I'd been interviewed. Trust me, I would rather do an operatic aria "by myself" rather than do the national anthem because of it's meaning to the public. No, I would rather do a concert "a cappella" than the national anthem! Love, Sherelle >From: Emiliano >To: Sherelle Smith >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC >Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:46:51 +0100 > >Wow, Sherelle! >That's Good! > >You're the VOICE, babe > >Have a Wonderful time! >Emiliano > >Sherelle : >Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC > > > > .....She didn't make it....I'm on......AAAGGGHHH!!!!! > > > > Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Its our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:13:35 -0600 From: "Kevin Arshad" Subject: Date for boot I HAVE RESEARCHED THE BELOW BECAUSE I HAVE IT ON CD AND I'VE FOUND THAT = IT IS EITHER:=20 07-07-69 Southern Illinois University Edwardsville IL USA=20 Joni performs at Mississippi River Festival; broadcast 8-3-69 on = PBS as "The Sounds of Summer" =20 OR 07-19-69 Newport Folk Festival Newport RI PBS-TV Broadcast as "The = Sounds Of Summer '69", Nov. 1969=20 CAN ANYONE CONFIRM WHICH IT IS ? Chelsea Morning/Cactus Tree/Night in The City/Marcie/Nathan La = Franeer/Rainy Night House/Blue Boy/For Free/Get Together/Fiddle & The = Drum/I Think I Understand/Both Sides Now. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of LED.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:20:11 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC Hi, Sherelle! Yes! First: I'm glad to know you're better: surely your diabetes won't disturb you at all... at least in a couple of years (maybe this time was due to nervous circumstances!) About your perfomance... now you know what "stage fright" means! Forgetting the words... that would be horrible!!! Yes, I think the national anthem is almost a religious matter for many many people in your great country: I don't know who Robert Goulet is, but I remember the only time I was in the USA, people were really angry about the Roseanne Barr's really bad taste performance (and I felt shocked about the tv news repeating over and over and again her "singing" and gestures) You know, in my country, Spain, the official anthem really has *no* official lyric, indeed! (I guess that's dur to lack of consense about it): but there was a very funny incident when recently, in Australia, the band played the Hymn for the 2nd Republic (1931-36: ended by our civil war) instead of the real official one! LOL! Well, I won't take no more time from you: by now, an increasing number of people knows your gifted voice (I only know by references, but they are from the best tasted people in the world, you know), and it only has begun: let's wait for the snowball effect coming on! You rrrrrrrrock, Sherelle! Have a Wonderful Christmas & Hannukah & ... Time! Emiliano - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Sherelle Smith" Para: CC: Enviado: lunes, 22 de diciembre de 2003 17:59 Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC Dear Emiliano, Sorry this is a week late-I was incapacitated last week! (Pooh!) Everything went very well. I wasn't feeling well and was a little disoriented and I paused a few seconds because I thought I forgot the words. It turns out that I didn't. I closed my eyes and belted out the rest of the song. I'm glad I did because that's all anyone remembers. I think I have an idea about what it is about the national anthem that makes everyone so particular and persnicketty (sp?) about it. The song means a lot to me because of my father and my family who were and still are in the military, but poor Robert Goulet is still getting hate mail over saying "By the dawn's early night" instead of "By the dawn's early light". After doing an interview for the Washington Times as well as for Voice of America radio, it was very clear to me how people react when something goes amiss with the singing of the anthem. So when I paused, I thought my life as a singer was over before it even began, especially since I'd been interviewed. Trust me, I would rather do an operatic aria "by myself" rather than do the national anthem because of it's meaning to the public. No, I would rather do a concert "a cappella" than the national anthem! Love, Sherelle >From: Emiliano >To: Sherelle Smith >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC >Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:46:51 +0100 > >Wow, Sherelle! >That's Good! > >You're the VOICE, babe > >Have a Wonderful time! >Emiliano > >Sherelle : >Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC > > > > .....She didn't make it....I'm on......AAAGGGHHH!!!!! > > > > Love, Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:28:14 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc >sidney poitier for dinner? mrs. santa claus? W? give us a clue, woman! wally >-----Mensaje original----- >De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de >Marianne Rizzo >Enviado el: Viernes, 19 de Diciembre de 2003 11:28 p.m. >Para: joni@smoe.org >Asunto: njc > > >guess who is visiting to day? It was the Bree. And now she left and now I'm sad. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Its our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:23:00 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC hi >>>>>wally wrote > ok, i hate to betray the secrets of my tribe, but here it goes. > http://www.drizzle.com/~elf/faqs/hankies.html so what happens if you get the different shades mixed up :-) i mean - go after a robin's egg blue & wind up with a real blue, or getting mauve & dark red confused - could get you into some serious trouble!!!!!! ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:39:57 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Here we go again - NJC oh i remember! ms barr grabbing her crotch and spitting. she was on larry king giving all kinds of explanations afterwards. wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > Emiliano > Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Diciembre de 2003 03:20 p.m. > Para: Sherelle Smith > CC: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC > > > Hi, Sherelle! > > Yes! > First: I'm glad to know you're better: surely your diabetes won't disturb > you at all... at least in a couple of years (maybe this time was due to > nervous circumstances!) > > About your perfomance... now you know what "stage fright" means! > Forgetting > the words... that would be horrible!!! > Yes, I think the national anthem is almost a religious matter for > many many > people in your great country: I don't know who Robert Goulet is, but I > remember the only time I was in the USA, people were really angry > about the > Roseanne Barr's really bad taste performance (and I felt shocked about the > tv news repeating over and over and again her "singing" and gestures) > > You know, in my country, Spain, the official anthem really has > *no* official > lyric, indeed! (I guess that's dur to lack of consense about it): > but there > was a very funny incident when recently, in Australia, the band played the > Hymn for the 2nd Republic (1931-36: ended by our civil war) instead of the > real official one! LOL! > > Well, I won't take no more time from you: by now, an increasing number of > people knows your gifted voice (I only know by references, but > they are from > the best tasted people in the world, you know), and it only has > begun: let's > wait for the snowball effect coming on! > > You rrrrrrrrock, Sherelle! > > Have a Wonderful Christmas & Hannukah & ... Time! > Emiliano > ----- Mensaje original ----- > De: "Sherelle Smith" > Para: > CC: > Enviado: lunes, 22 de diciembre de 2003 17:59 > Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC > > > Dear Emiliano, > > Sorry this is a week late-I was incapacitated last week! (Pooh!) > Everything > went very well. I wasn't feeling well and was a little disoriented and I > paused a few seconds because I thought I forgot the words. It > turns out that > I didn't. I closed my eyes and belted out the rest of the song. I'm glad I > did because that's all anyone remembers. > > I think I have an idea about what it is about the national anthem > that makes > > everyone so particular and persnicketty (sp?) about it. The song > means a lot > to me because of my father and my family who were and still are in the > military, but poor Robert Goulet is still getting hate mail over > saying "By > the dawn's early night" instead of "By the dawn's early light". > After doing > an interview for the Washington Times as well as for Voice of > America radio, > it was very clear to me how people react when something goes > amiss with the > singing of the anthem. So when I paused, I thought my life as a singer was > over before it even began, especially since I'd been interviewed. > Trust me, > I would rather do an operatic aria "by myself" rather than do the national > anthem because of it's meaning to the public. No, I would rather do a > concert "a cappella" than the national anthem! > > Love, Sherelle > > >From: Emiliano > >To: Sherelle Smith > >CC: joni@smoe.org > >Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC > >Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:46:51 +0100 > > > >Wow, Sherelle! > >That's Good! > > > >You're the VOICE, babe > > > >Have a Wonderful time! > >Emiliano > > > >Sherelle : > >Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC > > > > > > > .....She didn't make it....I'm on......AAAGGGHHH!!!!! > > > > > > Love, Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:41:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: right or left? NJC this is not PC i suppose so... besides, who could remember all those meanings???? the last time i saw someone using the hanky code was in the early 80's. wally, who finds the code not comprehensive enough > -----Mensaje original----- > De: ron [mailto:flopit@mweb.co.za] > Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Diciembre de 2003 03:23 p.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz > CC: Joni@Smoe.Org > Asunto: Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC > > > hi > > > >>>>>wally wrote > > ok, i hate to betray the secrets of my tribe, but here it goes. > > http://www.drizzle.com/~elf/faqs/hankies.html > > > so what happens if you get the different shades mixed up :-) > > i mean - go after a robin's egg blue & wind up with a real blue, > or getting > mauve & dark red confused - could get you into some serious trouble!!!!!! > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:00:42 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: Here we go again - NJC (for AOL users) Wally says: > oh i remember! ms barr grabbing her crotch and spitting. she was on > larry king giving all kinds of explanations afterwards. > wally ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:01:30 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: right or left? NJC this is not PC (for AOL users) Wally says: > i suppose so... besides, who could remember all those meanings???? > the last time i saw someone using the hanky code was in the early 80's. > wally, who finds the code not comprehensive enough ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:28:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Rock & roll NJC Felt the biggest quake I've felt in years...our house just rocked & rolled for a loooong time...no damage but it wasn't that far north of us...here is the map, looks like a 6.5 pt quake...anyone else feel this one? Hope nobody was hurt... http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/121-36.htm Kate www.katebennett.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:30:37 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: NJC.......Dec. 23rd I'm a little early, but my home computer crashed so I have to send this now! Everybody wish the good ole wombat (as Muller would say) a very Happy Happy Birthday to : John Low in Sydney Have a great one John, my Aussie mate! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:53:07 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC Thanks Emiliano! Yes, singing the national anthem is the most intense way to experience stagefright! I have had stagefright before, but I usually turn it around to my advantage. This, I have to say is a whole other level of fear! (Smile) Thanks for sharing about your country's national anthem. I never knew that Spain did not have have specific words! I would have switched gladly last week! (Smile again!)I was going to mention Roseanne Barr (Arnold) but did not. I knew where she was trying to go with her stage character singing the anthem, but it didn't work. Robert Goulet is a very famous singer here who has been around for years. He is like an American staple. He's always reminded me of Roger Moore's James Bond-with a mustache and a goutee (sp?). He's always appeared flawless especially in his vocal performances so I'm wondering if that was what all the hoopla was about when he made his "error" if that's what one would call it. What an interesting subject! The way I'm looking at things as far as my diabetes is concerned is a preparation to be healthy so that I can experience being in the music world full time. I am a firm believer in things happening for a reason. I'm just going to keep moving forward. I know I say this over and over, but I am so thankful for the kind words and the well wishes. words cannot describe how I feel about it. Thank you Emiliano! Love, Sherelle >From: Emiliano >To: Sherelle Smith >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC >Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:20:11 +0100 > >Hi, Sherelle! > >Yes! >First: I'm glad to know you're better: surely your diabetes won't disturb >you at all... at least in a couple of years (maybe this time was due to >nervous circumstances!) > >About your perfomance... now you know what "stage fright" means! Forgetting >the words... that would be horrible!!! >Yes, I think the national anthem is almost a religious matter for many many >people in your great country: I don't know who Robert Goulet is, but I >remember the only time I was in the USA, people were really angry about the >Roseanne Barr's really bad taste performance (and I felt shocked about the >tv news repeating over and over and again her "singing" and gestures) > >You know, in my country, Spain, the official anthem really has *no* >official >lyric, indeed! (I guess that's dur to lack of consense about it): but there >was a very funny incident when recently, in Australia, the band played the >Hymn for the 2nd Republic (1931-36: ended by our civil war) instead of the >real official one! LOL! > >Well, I won't take no more time from you: by now, an increasing number of >people knows your gifted voice (I only know by references, but they are >from >the best tasted people in the world, you know), and it only has begun: >let's >wait for the snowball effect coming on! > >You rrrrrrrrock, Sherelle! > >Have a Wonderful Christmas & Hannukah & ... Time! >Emiliano >----- Mensaje original ----- >De: "Sherelle Smith" >Para: >CC: >Enviado: lunes, 22 de diciembre de 2003 17:59 >Asunto: Re: Here we go again - NJC > > >Dear Emiliano, > >Sorry this is a week late-I was incapacitated last week! (Pooh!) Everything >went very well. I wasn't feeling well and was a little disoriented and I >paused a few seconds because I thought I forgot the words. It turns out >that >I didn't. I closed my eyes and belted out the rest of the song. I'm glad I >did because that's all anyone remembers. > >I think I have an idea about what it is about the national anthem that >makes > >everyone so particular and persnicketty (sp?) about it. The song means a >lot >to me because of my father and my family who were and still are in the >military, but poor Robert Goulet is still getting hate mail over saying "By >the dawn's early night" instead of "By the dawn's early light". After doing >an interview for the Washington Times as well as for Voice of America >radio, >it was very clear to me how people react when something goes amiss with the >singing of the anthem. So when I paused, I thought my life as a singer was >over before it even began, especially since I'd been interviewed. Trust me, >I would rather do an operatic aria "by myself" rather than do the national >anthem because of it's meaning to the public. No, I would rather do a >concert "a cappella" than the national anthem! > >Love, Sherelle > _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work  and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:08:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC.......Dec. 23rd well, it is actually december 23 down under. dear john, have a wonderful birthday. you and raffaele open the sun in capricorn season on the list. i have always loved your posts and your attitude. have a great day, week, year, fellow sea goat. love, wally ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:14:03 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Rock & roll NJC Glad you're okay, Kate. We had a smaller quake a couple of weeks ago up here in N. Cal. Look at it this way; if it wasn't for earthquakes, everyone would want to live in California! (ho ho ho) Kate Bennett wrote: > Felt the biggest quake I've felt in years...our house just rocked & > rolled for a loooong time...no damage but it wasn't that far north of > us...here is the map, looks like a 6.5 pt quake...anyone else feel this > one? Hope nobody was hurt... > > http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/121-36.htm > > Kate > www.katebennett.com > "bringing the melancholy world of > twilight to life almost like magic" > The All Music Guide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:26:27 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fw: vernor's njc (for AOL users) --- Emiliano wrote: > Emiliano, sobbing: I don't know Vernor's at all, and > I love Ginger Ale! > (alone or mixed) > Believe it or not, you can buy Vernor's here in the GW North. It was a favourite of one of my sisters' ages ago. I've seen it around lately but couldn't remember exactly where. If it's Rabba, you could even buy it on Christmas Day - you should see the line-ups of people at Rabba on a stat holiday, buying milk and ciggies and all the things they "forgot" to buy the day before. It's a chain of grocery stores around Toronto (not sure how far outside Toronto they go) and they seem to get away with the holiday-opening thing because I think they *claim* to be a convenience store, but am not sure how they get away with that one, because they're the same size as any other grocery store and they sell EVERYTHING, including some of the best hummous I've ever eaten. IF you get a craving for middle-eastern food (and possibly some Vernor's) at 4 a.m., you can always rely on Rabba to come through. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:32:30 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: right or left? NJC this is not PC --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > I always thought if you wore a blue handkerchief in > your left pocket, it > meant you liked "Dog Eat Dog" :~) > > Jimmy, delurking briefly Why, Mr Stewart. Fancy meeting you here. OMG, what a complicated set of coding instructions must be handed out when you join the Gay Club. No wonder you get a free microwave! My son wants to get an earring, but wasn't sure which ear to have done. I told him, if he didn't know, then probably neither did anyone else know, so it wouldn't matter, and that it's probably the other way around in the UK anyway. And I'm with Chris about having it put in the *other* ear just to mess with people's minds. I also suggested maybe he should get one in each ear because he might as well get his money's worth and likely you'd have to pay the same for one as for two. Then I suggested large hoop earrings like a pirate. He hasn't gotten back to me yet. I like Lucy's sandwich board idea too. You might as well just tell people everything about yourself so you don't have to waste so much time finding out whether you're compatible or not. Life is too short for that. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:35:25 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Here we go again - NJC --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > I think I have an idea about what it is about the > national anthem that makes > everyone so particular and persnicketty (sp?) about > it. The song means a lot > to me because of my father and my family who were > and still are in the > military, but poor Robert Goulet is still getting > hate mail over saying "By > the dawn's early night" instead of "By the dawn's > early light". That's because he's a Canadian (LOL.) I would think that singing the national anthem - any national anthem - - is likely the hardest job you could be asked for, because everyone's a critic. Sherelle, I hope you're feeling MUCH better and that your health continues to improve! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:39:03 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Here we go again - NJC --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > oh i remember! ms barr grabbing her crotch and > spitting. she was on larry > king giving all kinds of explanations afterwards. > wally > Maybe she had just had an intravenous pyelegram and had this horrible taste in her mouth at the same time as feeling like she had to pee? Works for me! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:26:32 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: NJC.......Dec. 23rd (for AOL users) Wally says: > well, it is actually december 23 down under. > dear john, have a wonderful birthday. you and raffaele open the sun > in capricorn season on the list. i have always loved your posts > and your attitude. > have a great day, week, year, fellow sea goat. > love, > wally ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:35:21 +1100 From: "ash" Subject: Tattoos? Why have a sandwich board.....?...why not a huge tattoo? to explain yourself? I remember this photo in a magazine...when I was in my teens..so that is 1969 ish.....and the photo was of a British skinhead (also known as lager louts or and football supporters?) being arrested..he had one hand behind him, held by the policeman and the other hand was giving the 2 fingers to the camera......but as he scowled.....you could see these words tattooed on his head..........F*** OFF. well that's great when your young?.....but now as this young gentleman nears his 60th birthday..will he still have these words on his head?...or will his grandchildren...ask what the laser scars mean? But I love it....with being English when you have to describe people.... imagine....... a housing estate.... The 2 middle aged ladies over their fence talking to each other..... "you know him?...he's the one with the funny leg, got all that money in compensation payout, left his wife bought a new house got this young thing in tow and likes to drink..oh and that flash car..who doe he think he is....always waves as he goes by tho" and "She's the one with that funny hairstyle, got too many kids and swears...oh hangs around the pubs and dresses as a slut" or "Jim or Bill...he's just got out of prison, nobody will give him a chance!.....oh yeah he steals everything...he's got this tattoo on his head say F*** off!...quite a nice bloke really!" or "That's Michael over there....well...Veronica now [voice is lowered] the one whose having the sex change..all his bits off...I know, makes me blush too, bet its painful?, well he has always been funny...I blame his mum really always ..well you know...my boy, Ridge, well he's in the army now...learning a real trade, oh he likes to drink still, they the army will make a man of him!!" see you get the gist?....why go around with a sandwich board when you just go to the neighbours and they will tell you who you are!!! "That Ashley, what a name, anyway, he's always on that computer and listens to that old type music, Nancy Sinatra? or was it Julie Andrews?..no Joni Miller or someone?...no Jane Mitchell?.. Joni Mitchell? she sang that song.....Puff the magic dragon song? well he plants trees?, I feel sorry for his wife, she tried to make him see a doctor I heard and take those pills, he seems obsessed with this singer, posters and picture of her, always playing her music.....you can hear it thru the walls.....I know, his poor children!!...he'll drive them to leave home, my Derrick....oh he loves Elvis..now there IS a singer!..not like these young singers....all they want is fame, sex , drugs and money...Elvis, well he's.....well you know....we've got all his records and this big picture of him above our bed......my mum, years ago saw him in Las Vegas and the same time as Liberace, she's seen Ole Blue Eyes the year before...now they could sing and such gentlemen!..oooh and that poor Michael Jackson..such a nice family, Quakers I think or was that the Osmonds..no they were Jewish? or was it the Bee Gees..there dad came from that house on the corner... I do feel sorry for his wife tho....oh I know..I wouldn't put up with it..better go now as the old man is about to come home and he wants his meal ready when he arrives in..or there be hell to pay..its not as if...he knocks me about ..all the time..its just the booze gets in to him and well..he always says sorry ...better go as I hate those folk who gossip!" maybe a sandwich board is a good thing...you can always update it...but say you picked up someone else's by mistake??? oh another thing.......I write all this stuff......put the spell checker on what I have written and then send..but it still sends stuff that makes no sense...well that's my story.....how will Santa fit down my chimney..its blocked up! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:33:55 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: vernor's njc > but I want to know how all kinds of non Michiganders, which is to > say, aliens from Michigan my Michigan, know of Vernor's. I grew up in Ohio, Vince. (For those not familiar with U.S. geography, Ohio is one state south of Michigan.) Ohioans play Euchre, too. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:40:02 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: vernor's njc > to think i have to content myself with schweppes... Wally, that's impossible. Schweppes and Canada Dry and Seagrams ginger ales don't taste anything like ginger at all. The only ginger ale other than Vernor's that I've found that tastes like ginger is Food Lion store brand ginger ale. And it's still not Vernor's! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:42:07 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors vs. Dr. Pepper David wrote: > Maybe I should fix myself a bowl of piping hot Vernor's right now. If you're going to heat up a soft drink, make it Dr. Pepper and add a round of lemon. (Hey Buck, you taught me that one!) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:06:45 -0700 From: "Norman Pennington" Subject: Re: (NJC) Coca-Cola vs. Vernors vs. Dr. Pepper Lori Fye sez: > David wrote: > > > Maybe I should fix myself a bowl of piping hot Vernor's right now. > > If you're going to heat up a soft drink, make it Dr. Pepper and add a > round of lemon. > > (Hey Buck, you taught me that one!) > > Lori > I taught my grandkids that one, too. They were pretty skeptical until they tasted it.... A good winter treat! And by the way...add the Red Wings to the list of great things that come from Detroit. Buck, Who places Steve Yzerman in his "A" rank of heroes... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:50:53 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Spark Here is a question for us from a friend of mine who isn't on the list: If you asked anyone on the Joni list what a "spark" is, would they agree that it has no sexual overtones ... it just means (in Joni terms) "I find you very interesting"? Answers? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:21:06 -0700 From: "Norman Pennington" Subject: Re: Spark Laura posed the following: > Here is a question for us from a friend of mine who isn't on the list: > > If you asked anyone on the Joni list what a "spark" is, would they agree that > it has no sexual overtones ... it just means (in Joni terms) "I find you very > interesting"? > > Answers? > > Love, > Laura > I went to dictionary.com hoping to find the archaic definition I first heard from my grandwmother...and...Voila! "spark \Spark\, v. i. To play the spark, beau, or lover. A sure sign that his master was courting, or, as it is termed, sparking, within. --W. Irwing." I assume the question was/is asked in the context of "Court and Spark?" According to my grandmother, "sparking" meant "making out" or, kissing, cuddling, etc. While not overtly sexual, it sure leads down that path! Best Regards, Buck ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #633 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)