From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #598 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 2 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 598 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: In defense of Last Chance Lost ["TheWizardOfIs" ] Re: last chance found [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni 1/2/3 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: And so once again ... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] machine songs ["Marian" ] Sweet Sixteen - Carey [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: machine songs [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Sweet Sixteen - Carey [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Covers from Christmas Past -- NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Covers from Christmas Past -- NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Covers from Christmas Past -- NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Sweet Sixteen - Carey [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: David Sylvian(njc) [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] (njc) Amnesia and manners (was Hejira review...) [Justalittlebreen@aol.co] PermaVine status ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Sweet Sixteen - Carey [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: 40 watt successes/Joni Star/Britney NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Protein njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Covers #47 - the Giveaways [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Stoltz (njc) Sorry! [Michaelpaz@aol.com] (NJC) December 1 ["Kate Bennett" ] Covers #47 update [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: (NJC) Andrea ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] RE: (NJC) Andrea ["Kate Bennett" ] More about eating fish njc ["Kate Bennett" ] political Joni ["Sara *" ] For kucinich suporters njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: political Joni ["Lori Fye" ] satisfied now, mick? -- NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Colin's recovery, NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: political Joni ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] Re: political Joni [Randy Remote ] Austin, Houston, Memphis, Cleveland: Njc [] Love actually [tantra-apso ] Joni Mitchell Birthday Tribute Concert [Michael Paz ] Joni mentioned in interview ["Victor Johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:17:15 -0000 From: "TheWizardOfIs" Subject: Re: In defense of Last Chance Lost - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Johnson" To: "Russell Bowden" ; Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: RE: In defense of Last Chance Lost > > Gang, > > > > I guess I'm one of the very few who likes 'Last Chance Lost'..... You are not alone! Although it's not the first Joni song I'd recommend to somebody new to to Joni-land, I'm amazed at how often I find myself "singing" (note those inverted commas) this track as go about my daily drudge. Unfortunately, with my dulcet musical tones it sounds more like one of "Pat's solos". (Our au-pair is a Circle Game addict, but I think it's got something to do with those painted ponies.) AMO Now in my head: LCL...... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:23:01 -0000 From: "TheWizardOfIs" Subject: Re: NJC What I remember about records From my behind-the-counter vinyl emporium days: Little Glasgow woman: "Excuse me, do any of your records have a hole in the middle?" (If anyone is interested I'll explain that one.) Constant returns of new albums which kept skipping? (What's the - no pun intended - record, I wonder.) Making ash-trays from old singles? Please, don't get me started...... AMO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 03:23:08 -0500 From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: charlie haden - with joni connection "bill johnson" writes: > Charlie Haden, the greatest jazz drummer of all time Jack DeJohnette, and > Joni's sax friend Michael Brecker are all on Pat Metheny's > 80/81 double album. And a great album it is. And Charlie is also on Michael Brecker's record "The Nearness Of You," along with Jack DeJohnette, Pat Metheny, Herbie Hancock, and James Taylor (the last three of whom, in addition to Brecker, certainly qualify this post as Joni-related). And a great album that is, too. The original question mentioned hearing something of Charlie's on the radio recently, and while it could be almost anything, I wonder if it was from his most recent record "American Dreams." It, too, is also a great album. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 03:47:33 -0500 From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: last chance found HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com writes: > I LOVE LAST CHANCE LOST! Yeah ... me, too. It's one of favorites on the album. So stark and plaintive. And so modern sounding. > DJRJ, the tenth world, otis and marlena, dreamland, talk to me, name a song > on that album and i'll give you 5 reasons why i wouldn't skip that song even if > you gave me $100. Let it be known that I, however, *will* skip *any* song for $100 (per song). Cash, personal check, or money order accepted. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:25:20 +0000 From: "vincenzo mancini" Subject: Joni 1/2/3 Just to let you know that we went ALREADY into mass productionI would invite you all to take a look at www.dovetusai.it, to visit two friends of spirit, a further gift I got from the list. Among some "non-chalant-ly" terrific objects, you will find Joni 1, 2 and 3, the result of a deeply heart-felt inspiration and a collaboration between an integralist (hi Fabio), with whom one could be doubting about anything but Travelogue (but we could roar together for DED, CMIARS and some other thorny issues), and his co-partner (hi Luigi) permanently complaining of his heavy exposition to JM and yet hardly succeeding in convincing people of his disaffection for that certain blonde. Vincenzo P.S.: What does JM sing in the last stanza of 'Baby blue", Pay these jets (or jests) no mind? PP.SS.: Bob, of course you are already aware of Ranee Lee covering Both sides now in a 2003 Canadian songs cd From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Joni Fridge Magnets? Just for the record, as I catch up from nearly a week of posts - that was my friend Lee, who made the magnets from Jonifest 2002, not to mention the Joni coaster set ... she happens to be out of work right now - hmmmm maybe we should go into mass production. She also made especially for me, from an old wooden cigar box, a beautiful Joni "stash" box. Ahhh the seeds of creativity Joni has planted! Seeds? - no seeds please! Peace, Susan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:58:22 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: last chance found In a message dated 12/2/2003 3:47:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, FredNow writes: > Let it be known that I, however, *will* skip *any* song for $100 (per song). Cash, personal check, or money order > accepted. I'll better Fred's offer...I'll skip an entire ALBUM for $100. There, I just skipped Hejira...send me $100! :~) Anyways, I like LCL a bunch too, and I agree that it would make a GREAT Joni song to cover with it's semi-elusive melody, challenging phrasing, and universal lyric. I'm eagerly awaiting versions! Bob NP: Elvis C, "Two Little Hitlers" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:02:47 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni 1/2/3 In a message dated 12/2/2003 5:25:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, vincenzomancini@hotmail.com writes: > PP.SS.: Bob, of course you are already aware of Ranee Lee > covering Both > sides now in a 2003 Canadian songs cd Yes indeedy...Michael O'Malley was the first to tip me off, & I picked it up shortly thereafter. It's pretty nice. I checked out your website but I didn't see any Joni-related stuff - did I miss something? It's a great site full of cool- looking stuff nonetheless. Bob NP: Elvis C, "What's So Funny 'Bout..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:25:59 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: And so once again ... In a message dated 12/1/2003 8:17:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, palis@email.unc.edu writes: > is this danilo perez the same as the danilo perez who accompanied > brazilian singer itxaso in her smolderingly sexy version of > cherokee > louise? i like the interplay of voice and guitar, though. I don't believe so, Joseph. If I'm not mistaken DANIEL Perez (Spain) is a guitarist and DANILO Perez (Panama) is a pianist. It also appears that Danilo's recording schedule has been pretty full & he would probably not have had the time to take this project on with Itxaso. As we've discussed, we share an affection for Itxaso's recording of Cherokee Louise, she also does a nice version of Night Ride Home. Bob NP: Elvis C, "God Give Me Strength" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:31:35 -0500 From: "Marian" Subject: machine songs I just told Bob (SCJoniGuy) that it's funny how the songs that I don't like so well are other people's favorites and, likewise, how some of the songs I love are other people's least favorites. However, I was surprised to see that Smokin' (Empty, Try Another) topped the least favorite list of DED. It's such a clever song and the harmonies are beautiful. I find the song also interesting in a personal way, as I often find myself humming harmonies to the coffee machine, vacuum cleaner, or the photocopier and her song makes me feel a little less strange (vs. being a normal human being). Also, I like the way that Joni weaves contemporary things into her songs - e.g. "white lines on the freeway", "silver power lines gleam" (I've never thought of power lines as being beautiful in any way, but this phrase makes them seem so), "could put a coin in the door of a john", "Javex bottles on the tide", "runs in her nylons", "the wires in the walls", "broadside accident", "flat tires", etc. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:54 -0800 (PST) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Sweet Sixteen - Carey I forgot to mention...Judd's fantastic cover of Carey can be found on his latest CD available at www.cdbaby.com. shameless plug is now over. Jenny p.s. support independent artists. : ) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:45:56 -0500 From: "Joseph S.E. Palis" Subject: Bob's Sweet Sixteen - Part Deux Bob, I brought your Sweet Sixteen cd to this party I went to yesterday and out it on the player while everyone's busy with the food and drinks. The reactions were varied, mostly enthusiastic. Most of them were quite taken by Terry Gonda's version of "Both Sides Now" (I suspect they don't really know much of Joni's repertoire and they singled her out because of song familiarity) while others liked Melissa Errico's voice. Personally, I can't get enough of Judd Grossman's "Carey" and the way his voice goes to so many musical places I wouldn't dream anyone would go to (not even Joni). I was also floored by Pam Bricker's slow-fire version of "Goodbye Porkpie Hat" which she imbues with a warm sensuality that is both irresistibly sexy and downhome cozy. Potent combination. I am checking her albums out. But the one that really made me press the repeat button was Itxaso's version of "Cherokee Louise". My first reaction was, "where did she come from?" "how come I have never heard of someone sing so sexily without prettifying the voice/sound?" I have this thing for singers singing in English with foreign inflections/accents and Itxaso zoomed right up in my list. Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:48:15 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: machine songs In a message dated 12/2/2003 10:31:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, marian@mail.jmdl.com writes: > Also, I like the way that Joni weaves contemporary things > into her songs Or "he put a quarter in the Wurlitzer, and he pushed three buttons and the thing begin to whir"...it IS interesting how "mechanical" Joni's songs are sometimes, I think it helps us to relate to how universal her songs are & helps us to see the images she's singing about, which in turn helps us to FEEL what the song is saying. Reason # 3,678,982 that she is such a brilliant composer. Bob, who has learned to enjoy "Smokin' (Empty Try Another) over the years...for me it's the great bass hook. NP: Elvis C, "Seconds Of Pleasure" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:54:49 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sweet Sixteen - Carey > shameless plug is now over. Also, Les has enabled the covers site to link to the artists' websites, so if you ever want to know more about a particular artist or get their cd's, you can always start with the JMDL and get there as well. I'm not 100% complete with adding those links but I'm almost there! Of course I do realize that the work of a Joni-covers project is NEVER done! :~P Bob, expecting a package from cdbaby today... NP: Elvis C, "The Beat" 3/3/78 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:15:12 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers from Christmas Past -- NJC Troy writes: > Want a good boo hoo? Listen to Robert Downey, Jr. sing "River" on Covers > Volume XII. Even *I* squirted a few. But then few artists can sing, "I am so > hard > to handle, I'm selfish and I'm sad" with the kind of hard-won conviction > that > Robert Downey, Jr. can muster! This excellent compilation also includes > "Song > to a Seagull" performed a cappella by Dave van Ronk (Hey, Jimmy!), "Both > Sides > Now" by Glen Campbell ("Hah! Ahm Glin Cambull!"), Volume XII is a great compilation. Downey's "River" is a tear jerker, although with Campbell's recent arrest, he might be singing "River" on his next album. As for Dave van Ronk, they played that horrible rendition of STAS on my XM radio this morning. Yikes, I can't get away from that man! As for Cover's #47, thanks Mr. Muller. My favorites are jmdler Larry D. performing "Carey" on the ukulele. Where are you Larry? You'll have to make it to the east coast this year for Jonifest. I also liked Karl & Jeanne Anthony's cover of "Woodstock". I read that she knows American Sign Language, and she signs while they sing. Cool !!! Have a great day everybody! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:38:11 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers from Christmas Past -- NJC Jimmy writes: > Downey's "River" is a tear jerker, > although with Campbell's recent arrest, he might be singing > "River" on his next > album. Maybe Volume XII should be called "Arrested Substance Abusers!" > As for Dave van Ronk, they played that horrible rendition of > STAS on my XM radio this morning. Yikes, I can't get away from that man! That's so odd, Jimmy. DvR gets almost no radio play. If I were you, I'd be paranoid. - --Troy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:46:21 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers from Christmas Past -- NJC Smurph writes: > Maybe Volume XII should be called "Arrested Substance Abusers!" > > Then Muller would have to add Wynonna Judd's "Help me" and Winona Ryder's "Cold Blue STEAL and Sweet Fire" :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:58:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: Sweet Sixteen - Carey Bob, as if collecting covers wasn't enough work! That's amazing. What a fantastic resource. You are truly a man with a mission. Jenny SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > shameless plug is now over. Also, Les has enabled the covers site to link to the artists' websites, so if you ever want to know more about a particular artist or get their cd's, you can always start with the JMDL and get there as well. I'm not 100% complete with adding those links but I'm almost there! Of course I do realize that the work of a Joni-covers project is NEVER done! :~P Bob, expecting a package from cdbaby today... NP: Elvis C, "The Beat" 3/3/78 Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:03:09 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: David Sylvian(njc) In a message dated 11/30/03 2:50:53 PM, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: << I would also highly recommend "Secrets of the Beehive" which is great from beginning to end and includes the song "Forbidden Colours" from the movie "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence" starring David Bowie. I have his most recent release, "blemish" which for awhile has only been available from his website. It's very sparse and more challenging to listen to but I have enjoyed it somewhat...perhaps a bit more meditative. >> Victor, thanks for the recommendations; they have been duly added to my Christmas wishlist. I do wonder what is to be made of the fact that he has one album named Secrets of the Beehive, and another named Dead Bees On a Cake -- just what kinds of secrets go on in a beehive? Apparently the queen keeps it to herself that one should avoid cakes... Best, Walt B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:29:12 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: (njc) Amnesia and manners (was Hejira review...) In a message dated 11/30/03 6:56:51 PM, Murphycopy writes: << I think another "challenging artist" people on this list might like is Lou Reed. I have said it here before, but it usually meets with profound silence. Maybe people here only know Lou from his Velvet Underground era and think that's it and haven't listened to his stuff from the mid to late '80s and after. "Drella," which is a "concept" album he did with John Cale about Andy Warhol, goes with me to the desert island.>> Yeesh -- well, Troy -- hey, can I call you "Bubba Troy"? I have no idea why, I just like the sound of it -- like "Whoopi Goldberg", it makes no sense, and yet conveys whimsy, as do you (on both counts?). Um, anyway, you had me considering LR until you mentioned Cale and (shudder) Ol' Platinum Head, who had his 15,000 minutes of fame based, as far as I could could tell, on absolutely nothing. But I shouldn't throw the Reed out with the Warholwater, and I remember being amused at some of Reed's stuff way back in the '70's; so I'll be on the lookout. <> Knowing Bob "Not a Troy But a Joy" Muller, he probably already knows about it. Putting something aside and losing it but being sure I'll find it eventually is the story of my life for the last coupla years. I think it may well define middle age. <> How shockingly ungallant of you. I've changed my mind about calling you Bubba Troy -- no, it's too late to beg for forgiveness now -- given your transient amnesia and ghastly behavior, I'd give serious thought to calling you Bubba Gump, if it weren't already taken. Besides, you're way older than anyone named Catherine that *I* could think of -- perhaps you've forgotten your span (aeon? epoch?), as well as your manners. Love you anyway, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:31:52 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: PermaVine status The vine disc: joni mitchell - 7 july 1969 mississippi river festival southern illinois university edwardsville, illinois (formerly identified as 30 November 1969, Los Angeles, PBS - TV) has finally arrived from South Africa, and has been burned. The vine disc is ready to go to the next recipient and a disc for a burnerless person is also ready to go. E-mail me. Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:11:12 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sweet Sixteen - Carey > Bob, as if collecting covers wasn't enough work! Thanks Jenny, but truth be told the way Les has set up the "Undercover" site makes it easier for me to organize my efforts, and also for folks to see what I need and help me out! I wouldn't have even known about the Karin Krog "All I Want" cover except for the fact that a non-JMDLer visited the site and used the "anonymous e-mail" feature Les has included to give me the scoop. But I don't want Les' head to get TOO big...he was supposed to help me with a download on Saturday and he turned up MIA, so I'm considering cutting his Christmas bonus this year. ;~) Bob NP: Elvis C, "Imagination Is A Powerful Deceiver" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:13:31 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: 40 watt successes/Joni Star/Britney NJC A few years ago jeff's grandaughter (a huge brittney fan at the time, she sang along with her music nonstop) showed me pics of brittney & friends visiting her friends house(the kids were about 8 yrs old) house (not sure why this happened)...anyway it was just a couple girls in a car, no bodyguards or typical star type entourage... I saw her on sat night live & thought she was quite adorable as a person... Then I saw one of her concerts on tv & was disgusted at the stripper type show (all that was missing was a pole)... I don't mind that this is her schtick as much as I do mind it being intentionally marketed to very young kids... As a parent & advocate of music in the schools I have strong feelings about such intentional & inappropriate marketing (not just in the music biz) However, when this grandaughter (now 11) visited us last month she was singing (acapella) songs by aretha (respect)& tina turner (proud mary) & avril lavigne with an amazing voice & interpretation...these songs were of her own choosing!...we were (to put it mildly) absolutely blown away & since we had a gig, put her on stage as part of our show... All this to say that she moved on beyond the pop fluf & has developed an amazing taste for great music for such a young girl ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:16:27 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Zubairi?= Subject: The Complete Geffen Hi Y'All I've been listening to The Complete Geffen for the past week on headphones at work and although I had already copied CMIARS into my mac I decided to copy the re-release. Can I say the difference is amazing if you are doing a listening comparison. The sound is fuller, the room is wider and Joni is sitting on your lap singing to you. Even the new DED (the old version of which I had downloaded last year) sounded better and it (kinda) made me want to listen to this album. I do like DED anyway - in some moods - but just hearing the quality of this album when it is thrust into your senses just brings it into panavisiontechnicolour16:9widescreen5.1dts with cream on top and sprinkles. And ok, so the Geffen Years might not be 'popular' but at least hearing this you get every nuance, every voice in the harmony, every crash of cymbal in the next studio, every brush of her dress on the floor... Ok so you might not get the last few but you know what I mean. Anyhow, anything is better to take you mind off data entry! Much Joni Jamie Zoob ________________________________________________________________________ Download Yahoo! Messenger now for a chance to win Live At Knebworth DVDs http://www.yahoo.co.uk/robbiewilliams ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:22:58 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Permavine disc Robert Argento (robert@argento.se) was the first to claim the permavine disc. No one has yet claimed the burnerless person copy. Today or tomorrow, the vine disc will be on its way to Florida (that's in the U.S.) Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:27:53 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Protein njc >it's just that protein-loaded food has become so expensive here. i can afford meat about once a week. can you replace beef, fish, etc by a protein-something-else? Wally< I know that beans & rice are considered a complete protein when eaten together (meaning all the amino acids I believe) however this doesn't sound low carb... I think anyone on this diet should do their best to obtain meats & fish that are free from hormones & antibiotics & other things you do not want to put into your body...fish is tricky cuz of the mercury problem (salmon once was considered safe but now there is that pcb thing with farmed salmon which is most of it...argh) What exactly are trans fats? What are they in? is that how they are labeled? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:33:44 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #47 - the Giveaways So now we come to the time where we give away free copies of #47 to JMDler's around the world! Instant winners this month* will be: 1) The FIRST person whose LAST name begins with the letter "L" to contact me; 2) The FIRST person currently residing in the State of Alabama to contact me; 3) The FIRST person currently residing in the Country of Wales to contact me. And if you don't fit in any of these three categories you can pick a song on one of Joni's releases...just tell me song and album, & if you're the closest to the one I've picked then you WIN. Good luck, I'll take guesses through midnight Friday & announce the winner Saturday. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:39:37 EST From: Michaelpaz@aol.com Subject: Stoltz (njc) Sorry! Here is the info I meant to send. Sorry it did not work the first time. Paz Brian Stoltz's East Of Rampart Street hits 100 radio stations nation-wide! East Of Rampart Street was shipped last week to 100 radio stations around the country. Many have already put it rotation. According to the stations playlists the songs getting the most attention are Norma's House, Hoodoo Thing, This Old World and Funky Forever. Listed below (and attached) are a list of radio stations where you can call in or e-mail the stations in your area to request your favorite songs. Thanks for you support! The funk is a little bittersweet, just East Of Rampart Street! COMPANYCitySTPHONE_NUMBE_MAIL_ADD Truth and Fun Inc.OaklandCA david@trufun.com LiveLiveAllstonMA(617) 218-7292davidtaus@anize.org The Music Never StopsLos AngelesCA(818) 985-2711shmo@well.com WNTI-91.9 FM - Gabe's Lunch BreakBangorPA gabe@wnti.org KROCK FM - Jam SessionsSyracuseNY(315)735-9490jamsessions@krock.com Jam NationEast GreenwichRI860.723-6000jamnation@jambands.com SIRIUS - JAM CENTRAL/THE ROCK/THE VAULTNEW YORKNY(212) 584-5313requests17@sirius-radio.com Music Director-Allegheny Mountain RadioDunmoreWV(540) 468-1313rscottr@htcnet.net WRHUHempsteadNY516-463-5105, opt. 5mysticmike30@hotmail.com KPFA - Berkely Student RadioBerkeleyCA510-642-0589tlynch@socrates.berkeley.edu WRNR 103.1 FM - RoadtrippinCentervilleMD(410) 758-1925bill@roadtrippin.net WDST 100.1 FM - Woodstock JamWoodstockNY(845) 679 - 7266ricks@wdst.com KBOO - 90.7fm - Portland General EclecticPortlandOR portlandgeneraleclectic@yahoo.com KXUA 88.3 FM - Honest TunesFayettevilleAR479-575-5883dgold@anhonesttune.com KDHX FM 88.1 - Stumble in the DarkSaint LouisMO(314) 832-5529volunteerdj@stumbleinthedark.com WVOF - Sharin' in the GrooveBridgeportCT(203) 526-1156ajphishfu@yahoo.com KFOG FM - 55 Hawthorne StreetSan FranciscoCA(415) 995-6831jams@kfog.com MPowers@susqsf.com WBZC-FM 89.9 - Endless BoundariesTabernacleNJ(856) 279-6655EndlessBoundaries@yahoo.com WCUW 91.3 - Grateful RadioWorcesterMA508 753-2284dawg6@earthlink.net WQNR-FM - Wildman SteveAuburnAL(334) 524-0495 cellwildmansteve@wildmansteve.com WESS FM - Student RadioEast StroudsburgPA weirdeverywhere@yahoo.com WHUS Radio - Jambands Music DirectorStorrs MansfieldCT David.Sitcovsky@huskymail.uconn.edu WXAV Chicago 88.3 FMOak LawnIL(708) 636-2595 Homeill717@yahoo.com WECS 90.1 - Bucket O'lardWillimanticCT860-456-5354cathyjohn67@yahoo.com KAFM 88.1 - Music DirectorGrand JunctionCO(970) 241-8801james@kafmradio.org grogdini@yahoo.com KBAC 104.1FM - Radio Free Santa Fe - The Groove ShackSanta FeNM505 989 3338, (505) 983-9036hchongo@cybermesa.com Indiana University of Pennsylvania - WIUP FM 90.1IndianaPA(724) 541-3079wiup_fm@hotmail.com pjwallace11@aol.com KCLC - St. Louis 89.1 FMLabadieMO(314) 517-4012ngqmusic@primary.net WVOF 88.5 - Happy TrailsBridgeportCT programdirector@wvof.org rom0910@aol.com KBCO FM - SCI FidelityBoulderCO(303) 444-5600dylan@scifidelity.com San Francisco State UniversitySan FranciscoCA hippiechicklette@yahoo.com WMPG 90.9 & 104.1 FMPortlandME KINDMusicRadio@aol.com WROQ - Fresh TracksGreenvilleSC moeron@charter.net / brianblades@yahoo.c WKZE 98.1FM - Off the Beat-n-TrackSouthfieldMA info@offthebeat-n-track.com WBOI 88.7 - Burnt ToastFort WayneIN(260) 478-5611toddhighonstress@skyenet.net WELY Radio 94.5 FM - Grateful Family ShowElyMN(218) 365-4444travis@wely.com WWHS 91.9Hampden SydneyVA(434) 223-6890crosslands@hsc.edu 99.5 WUSR Radio - University of ScrantonScrantonPA(570) 941-3865besackj3@UofS.edu WCSB/CSU - "420"ClevelandOH(216) 687-3721garyjamison@earthlink.net The Dunhams - WZGC 92.9 FMAtlantaGA(404) 851-9393Dunham@z93.com jeffdunham@z93.com The Lion 90.7fm - State Your FaceUniversity ParkPA(814) 865-7983LION-SYF@psu.edu; MrSinatra@hotmail.com KRNULincolnNE402-649-4908 cellthall@huskers.unl.edu KVCU Radio 1190 - Chunk of FunkBoulderCO(303) 522-7530Anthony.Bednar@colorado.edu WKNC - Hippie HourWake ForestNC919-860-0881/515-2401jcbuckle@ncsu.edu 89.9 WNRSSweet BriarVA(434) 381-7164chilton04@sbc.edu WFIT-FM 89.5, "Jazz with a Groove"MelbourneFL jwgroove@marionmusic.com WXPN 88.5FM - JamnationPhiladelphiaPA(215) 898-6677brucew@xpnonline.net KTXT1 88.1 FM - Electric Kool-AidLubbockTX(806) 791-6270mdawg@sbcglobal.net WRIU 90.3 FM - KIND SOUNDSRiversideRI(401) 742-1143mikemaresca@hotmail.com WNKU - The Golden RoadCincinnatiOH859-572-6500pdelgado@cinci.rr.com WMUCHyattsvilleMD djim@wam.umd.edu CJSR - Get Your Jammies OnEdmonton, Alberta, Canada, G64 1A2getyourjammieson@cjsr.com KMUD Radio - Music DirectorRedwayCA707-923-2513x109md@kmud.org WGFR 92.7 FM - Captain UnderpantsQueensburyNY(518) 743-2311wgfrmd@hotmail.com WHCL 88.7 - Hamilton CollegeClintonNY[315] 859 2944, ext. 2.stice@hamilton.edu WUVTBlacksburgVA(540) 864-6511jpestka1@yahoo.com WNMC 90.7 FM - Saturday Afternoon Jam SessionTraverse CityMI231.995.1090mick@merlintech.net WFUV - FUV JamboreeBronxNY pergolizzi@wfuv.org jamboree@wfuv.org WBSR FM 88.1 - Brown Student RadioProvidenceRI(401) 863-9600jambands@bsrlive.com WUIN/WPPGWilmingtonNC mark@radiopenguin.com WWPV 88.7FMColchesterVT(802) 654-2334wwpv@smcvt.edu pormiston@smcvt.edu WMNF 88.5 FM Community RadioTampaFL(813) 238-8001randy@wmnf.org 88.9 KJLU FM - Blues PilotJefferson CityMO(573) 681-5301david@kjlu.com bluespilotkjlu@yahoo.com KHWG - Community StationQuincyCA(530) 283-3536farmyard@psln.com 90.9 WQFS - Music DirectorGreensboroNC(336) 316-2352eleaf@guilford.edu WPKN FM - Community RadioBridgeportCT(203) 331-9756philcbowler@aol.com KGLT - RadioBozemanMT(406) 994-7091ronc@montana.edu kgltmus@montana.edu KDUR 91.9 FM - Music DirectorDurangoCO(970) 247-7288kdur_st1@fortlewis.edu WJCU-FM - Recreational ChemistryUniversity HeightsOH xwusskidx@aol.com Share The Groove (WICB)IthacaNY(607) 274-1040discostuart@hotmail.com WIUV 91.3 - Castleton State CollegeCastletonVT802-468-1264eric@castleton.edu WAMH 89.3 fm - "Groove with a View"AmherstMA(413) 542-2224wamh@amherst.edu WEVL FM - Head JamsMemphisTN(901) 528-0560slothboy@thedekagon.com KXCI 91.3 FMTucsonAZ(520) 623-1000kxcimd@kxci.org WERU FM - Community Supported RadioEast OrlandME207-469-6600info@weru.org WUTC - NPR/Community StationChattanoogaTN joshua-daniels@utc.edu WRCT 88.3 FM - Rock Music DirectorPittsburghPA(412) 621-0728rock@wrct.org WBMB Radio 87.9 FM - Baruch CollegeNew YorkNY(646) 312-4722wbmb_radio@hotmail.com WMHW 91.5 - The Stomping Grounds - Central MI U.Mt PleasantMI(989) 774-3691the_stomping_grounds@hotmail.com WTJU 91.1 FM - Sunshine DaydreamCharlottesvilleVA434-924-0885jtl4r@virginia.edu WBNY 91.3 FM - College RadioBuffaloNY(716) 878-5104erincassidy18@hotmail.com WIUS FMBloomingtonIN1-812-855-WIUS studiowiusmd@indiana.edu WSUC - "The Dragon"CortlandNY(607) 753-2936nicu12@hotmail.com WSUM 91.7 FM - Wake and BakeMadisonWI(608)250-1950wsum2@wsum.wisc.edu ATTN: WGRE 91.5FM - Depauw UniversityGreencastleIN(765) 658-4637 WRVU 91.1 fm - GoulashNashvilleTN615.322.7625alex.cheek@vanderbilt.edu WGBG 98.5fm - Great Scott BroadcastingGeorgetownDE302-856-2567deadair@greatscottbroadcasting.com WAER 88.3 FM - Community Radio SyracuseSyracuseNY(315) 443-5252reid@novocon.net ; escohen@syr.edu KAOS Olympia Community RadioOlympiaWA(360) 867-6896mamaship@attbi.com WRFR Media ServicesRocklandME streets@wrfr.org KALA 88.5 FM - New Fangled GroovesDavenportIA(563) 333-6219dbaker@sau.edu WGDR Radio - Goddard CollegePlainfieldVT wgdrmusic@goddard.edu WDBX 91.1 FM - Jam-grassCarbondaleIL618-457-3691wdbx@globaleyes.net WCLG Radio - NightphishingMorgantownWV304-292-2222jeff@wclg.com nightphishing@wclg.com WVUM 90.5FM - Natural NotionsCoral GablesFL(305) 284-3955naturalnotions@wvum.org KLCC 89.7 FMEugeneOR(541) 463-6000canningm@lanecc.edu KOTO 91.7 FM - Music DirectorTellurideCO(970) 728-4334kotofm@yahoo.com WKHS 90.5FMChestertownMD JWEVERETT@aol.com WCRR - Florida Tech Campus Run RadioMelbourneFL(321) 674-8687mwestbro@fit.edu WNCW FM - Dead AirSpindaleNC(828) 287-8000info@wncw.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:55:17 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: (NJC) December 1 Finally got to this, what a wonderful tribute you created lori! I had no idea that you had been in contact with Andrea as much as you were...& wow, thanks for posting her photo- she was sooooo beautiful! Ps anyone know where that photo was taken (it looks so much like the bay where we had a place at the jersey shore) Lori >Today is Andrea's 50th birthday, and it's been almost exactly 3 months since her passing. For those of you who are new to the JMDL, Andrea was a member of this community for too short a time. I've been working on a fitting tribute to Andrea, and although it's not absolutely complete and still needs to be posted on jmdl.com, I would like to share it with all of you today. The following link will open a Word document, and -- for those of you who may not be able to access it -- I'll follow with an html file later this afternoon. http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/andrea.doc Happy birthday, Andrea. May you be peaceful and smiling, always.< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:55:16 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers #47 update Congrats to Cindy in Alabammie and Vince "L"avieri who stepped up to claim their freebies. Hey Cindy, you can always use it for a Diet MD coaster if you don't like it. :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:09:20 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Re: (NJC) Andrea please repost the picture of Andrea - I seemed to have lost it - I am very thankful that she is remembered on her birthday by her Joni friends - Vince Finally got to this, what a wonderful tribute you created lori! I had no idea that you had been in contact with Andrea as much as you were...& wow, thanks for posting her photo- she was sooooo beautiful! Ps anyone know where that photo was taken (it looks so much like the bay where we had a place at the jersey shore) Lori >Today is Andrea's 50th birthday, and it's been almost exactly 3 months since her passing. For those of you who are new to the JMDL, Andrea was a member of this community for too short a time. I've been working on a fitting tribute to Andrea, and although it's not absolutely complete and still needs to be posted on jmdl.com, I would like to share it with all of you today. The following link will open a Word document, and -- for those of you who may not be able to access it -- I'll follow with an html file later this afternoon. http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/andrea.doc Happy birthday, Andrea. May you be peaceful and smiling, always.< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:32:01 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: (NJC) Andrea Vince>please repost the picture of Andrea - I seemed to have lost it -< Its here vince: http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/andrea.doc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:54:43 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: More about eating fish njc Here are some excerpts from a piece that is more about how much harm the current administration is doing to the environment but I have excerpted the parts related to my recent post about eating fish: >Crimes Against Nature Robert F.Kennedy, Jr. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is chief prosecuting attorney for the Hudson Riverkeeper and the senior attorney for the Natural Resources Defense Council. Published with permission from the Natural Resources Defense Council.< "Most freshwater fish in New York and all in Connecticut are now under consumption advisories." "the factory-pork industry, which is a large source of air and water pollution in America. Corporate pork factories cannot produce more efficiently than traditional family farmers without violating several federal environmental statutes. Industrial farms illegally dump millions of tons of untreated fecal and toxic waste onto land and into the air and water. Factory farms have contaminated hundreds of miles of waterways, put tens of thousands of family farmers and fishermen out of work, killed billions of fish, sickened consumers and subjected millions of farm animals to unspeakable cruelty. On behalf of several farm groups and fishermen, we sued Smithfield Foods and won a decision that suggested that almost all of American factory farms were violating the Clean Water Act. " "The fishermen I represent are traditionally Republican. But, without exception, they see this administration as the largest threat not just to their livelihoods but to their values and their idea of what it means to be American. "Why," they'll ask, "is the president allowing coal, oil, power and automotive interests to fix the game?"" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:31:13 -0500 From: "Sara *" Subject: political Joni Hi everyone~ I'm a college student, and I'm doing a paper on Joni for my politics, persuasion, and protest class. I need to pick a couple Joni songs that have political content to analyze in the paper, but I'm having a hard time deciding which ones to pick b/c there are just so many! If anyone would like to share which Joni song you think is the most enticing politically and why, I would really love the input! Thanks a bunch!~Sara~ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, youll find a range of helpful holiday info here. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:34:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: For kucinich suporters njc i am forwarding some info on how the supporters of kucinich can help him get more of the media's attention...if you think this is important, here is a chance to help: The vehicle is MeetUp.com. This site allows supporters of various candidates, and those just curious, to meet each other at monthly public meetings anywhere in the country. Our tally stands at 18,000 people signed up. Clark's is 47,000, and Dean's is 147,000.#160; You are one of over 75,000 people receiving this Email. You can see the math as well as anyone. If we each sign up, we shoot into second place. If we each persuade one other person to sign up, we take the lead. Taking the lead in MeetUp assists us on our way to take the lead in the election. Signing up for MeetUp does not oblige you to attend every month, does not cost any money, will not flood your inbox with Emails, and takes under 5 minutes. Click here: http://kucinich2004.meetup.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:56:17 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: political Joni Sara wrote: > If anyone would like to share which Joni song you think is the most > enticing politically and why, I would really love the input! Oooh, I love this! My pick would be "The Fiddle And The Drum" because it's more appropriate now -- with this U.S. Administration so out of control -- than ever. http://www.jmdl.com/lyrics/TheFiddleAndTheDrum.cfm Good luck, Sara! Lori, a little too near DC ~ http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant.asp?runner=DCNO-3152&year=2003 ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:09:41 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: satisfied now, mick? -- NJC Mick Jagger is going to be knighted by QEII on Dec. 12. Surely this is one of the signs of the apocalypse. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=499&u=/ap/20031202/ap_on_en_ot/people_jagger_1&printer=1 - --Troy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:17:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Colin's recovery, NJC Thanks so much Colin for the wonderful advice. I didn't know that about butter. I've been led to believe by the masses that butter was the kiss of death. I know what you are saying is true. I struggle for the strength to just "cut them out". I hope it doesn't take a catastrophe for me to be able to do those things. Thanks again Colin! Love, Sherelle >From: tantra-apso >To: Sherelle Smith >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Colin's recovery, NJC >Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:00:25 +0000 > >Sherelle Smith wrote: > >>Dear Colin, >> >>Unfortunately, I've never been successful in the diet department. Although >>I try to maintain my calories to a decent level, the best I have >>accomplished is maintaining my weight. > >neither have I till cut out the foods that casued the problem. once you >have them out of your system, you stop craving them. Your blood sugar >stabilises. > >>My favorite is spinach. I cook it in chicken broth to give it a better >>taste and to avoid the butter. It's delicious! > >I love spinach. I cook it butter and spices. No need to avoid butter. it is >good for you. DON'T touch marg-very bad, keep polyunsaturates down low and >mono's and saturated up high. > >> >> >>Thank you for your vote of confidence concerning my health. It's hard to >>think of myself as sick when so many others in our group have battled much >>worse. I am 45 as well and it is a weird age to be. It seems like 40-45 is >>considered the 40's and 46-50 are considered the 50's in my mind-how >>weird. I just pray that my life really begins at 50! > >Life definately began at 40 for me. > >>Health is the only thing that gets in the way. I resented being alive too >>so I understand completely how you feel. We are definitely survivors! > >certainly! > >> >> >>Love, Sherelle >> > >-- >bw colin >http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ > _________________________________________________________________ Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:35:22 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Re: political Joni Woodstock - to me the last line was always very political - as was Joni, as was everyone at the time. If you can find a videotape of Celebratuion of Big Sur, I believe that Joni acts a bit political in that - of course political is different things to different people - in 1969, 1970, no one was asking anyone to be partisan - the political statements were against the war, against the draft, for civil rights, things that seem assumed now but were incredibly controversial back then - so while Joni never said "Vote McGovern" in 1972 (maybe because she was/is a citizen of another country) one knew she would if she could! That last line of Woodstock, as well as Fiddle and the Drum, remember the times, those were political statements of some import back then. Of course now a days a right wing neanderthal would stand behind the presidential podium and say the last line of Woodstock as good drama to co-opt the sentiment - but when Joni sang it, we all knew who was on what side. Vince Hi everyone~ I'm a college student, and I'm doing a paper on Joni for my politics, persuasion, and protest class. I need to pick a couple Joni songs that have political content to analyze in the paper, but I'm having a hard time deciding which ones to pick b/c there are just so many! If anyone would like to share which Joni song you think is the most enticing politically and why, I would really love the input! Thanks a bunch!~Sara~ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, youll find a range of helpful holiday info here. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:25:45 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: political Joni Hi Sara- Considering that Joni's rise to fame was during the height of the Vietnam War, I'm struck by the almost total absence of political commentary in Joni's songs at the time, especially considering the company she was keeping (granted, James Taylor's music was mostly unpolitical, too). At some point her songs moved away from introspection somewhat, and her 80's albums included social and political content. Not to say that she did not reference things within a song- "more about the war and the bloody changes". "Banquet" from 1972 seems to be a musing about class and wealth, (and as Pink Floyd sang, "with/without/and who'll deny that's what the fighting's all about.) Some of the lyrics echo the general feelings of resentment and dissent of that era . btw, all of Joni's lyrics are available here (halfway down the page) : http://www.jonimitchell.com/jonihome.html#TheMusic BANQUET Come to the dinner gong The table is laden high Fat bellies and hungry little ones Tuck your napkins in And take your share Some get the gravy And some get the gristle Some get the marrow bone And some get nothing Though there's plenty to spare I took my share down by the sea Paper plates and Javex bottles on the tide Seagulls come down And they squawk at me Down where the water-skiers glide Some turn to Jesus And some turn to heroin Some turn to rambling round Looking for a clean sky And a drinking stream Some watch the paint peel off Some watch their kids grow up Some watch their stocks and bonds Waiting for that big deal American Dream I took my dream down by the sea Yankee yachts and lobster pots and sunshine And logs and sails And Shell Oil pails Dogs and tugs and summertime Back in the banquet line Angry young people crying Who let the greedy in And who left the needy out Who made this salty soup Tell him we're very hungry now For a sweeter fare In the cookie I read "Some get the gravy And some get the gristle Some get the marrow bone And some get nothing Though there's plenty to spare" Sara * wrote: > Hi everyone~ I'm a college student, and I'm doing a paper on Joni for > my politics, persuasion, and protest class. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:47:16 -0500 From: Subject: Austin, Houston, Memphis, Cleveland: Njc Are there any JMDLers with cable tv and a vcr in Austin, Houston, Memphis or Cleveland? If so, I need a favor. Will ya please write to me, off-list? All the best, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:20:26 +0000 From: tantra-apso Subject: Love actually okay so you probably all know about the Joni connection to this film. I think playing that version of BSN was a good choice and it sounded really good.Good advertising too for Joni as they showed the cover so well. As for the film, I was disappointed. It could have been so much better had they not decided to be so exclusive. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:25:46 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni Mitchell Birthday Tribute Concert Thanks to Martin in the UK I will be sending copies out to Muller, Cindy V, and Mags to distribute further. Please send me your addresses (except you Muller I know yours by heart) and I will send them out tomorrow. I am also offering this show up as a weed to the first 3 people that send me their address and promise to re-weed 3 more copies out to the list so that we can get this out to everyone who wants it. Thanks again Martin and if you would please send me the artwork as an attachment for further distribution. Best Paz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:46:28 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) December 1 Thank you Lori, it was a beautiful tribute for Andrea....gosh how beautiful she was!! rosie in nj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:47:13 -0600 From: "mackoliver" Subject: Re: political Joni Sara, I would advise taking a very close look at the tunes on DED. Very political indeed and it is almost as if Joni knew ahead of time where we would be today. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:14:40 -0800 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Joni mentioned in interview From an interview with Nicole Kidman: THR: Beyond his influence, have your own ideas on acting changed? Kidman: When I came out of my marriage, my ideas changed. I suddenly was able to go, "OK, now you put your experiences (into the work) because now you have them to such a deep degree." There were so many things that had amassed that I had never expressed. It was almost like this pressure cooker being allowed to go, "OK, now it's all right to go and put all of these things into your work, and you are not going to be betraying any privacy. You are going to expose yourself, but that's OK." So much is about having the capacity and the desire and the willingness to leave yourself exposed on a very, very broad public level. But to do it in your work gives it a truth and a weight. I look at people like (songwriter) Joni Mitchell and the way she left her soul so bare through her lyrics and songs; I so admired that and am so willing to go there. for the complete interview: http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=142269 New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #598 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)