From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #588 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 26 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 588 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw: alone -- here njc (for AOL users) [emilianopd@mundo-r.com] RE: Paging COLIN ANDERSON/ANDERSEN/ANDERSSEN njc [Catherine McKay ] NJC [tantra-apso ] Re: NJC ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] Re: NJC ["Cynthia Vickery" ] Subject: alone -- here njc ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC ["Lori Fye" ] Blue- #30 top album all time ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] RE: Saw Joni on VH1 Classic ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] Re: NJC [tantra-apso ] RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC ["Maggie McNally" ] Joni Mitchell Handwritten Song List ["Lori Fye" ] Re: alone -- here njc -- plus b I r T h D a Y s ! ! ! [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Blue- #30 top album all time [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC ["Lavieri, Vince [185776]" ] Joni's Basketball Game [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Joni's Basketball Game [Les Irvin ] Re: Our Shooting Star's Missing Star [CoyoteRick@aol.com] Re: Joni's Basketball Game ["Steve Polifka" ] Joni's #30 [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Subject: alone -- here njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC ["Martin Giles" ] Thanksgiving njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni's Basketball Game [Catherine McKay ] Snapshot of our Desert Island Joni (Most/Least) ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Our Shooting Star's Missing Star [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: alone -- here njc and Happy Thanksgiving [FMYFL@aol.com] Let us be thankful NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Joni's Basketball Game [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Fun things for the office njc ["kerry" ] a blue motel room in rhode island -- NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:16:23 +0000 (GMT) From: emilianopd@mundo-r.com Subject: Fw: alone -- here njc (for AOL users) Wally says: i'm feeing kind of lonely tonight. this isn't a cry for help or anything. i just feel like sending this message to the list. i guess they're the only folks i can send a message like this to in the middle of the night. i wish i had a good job. i wish i were smarter. i wish it were autumn. i wish i were spending thanksgiving day with someone. i wish i had a home somewhere. i wish i wish i wish. ok. end of message. bye now, wally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:05:07 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Paging COLIN ANDERSON/ANDERSEN/ANDERSSEN njc Don't worry about it WK. I'm back to gloom, doom and bitchiness - in other words, normal. --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > catherine!!! this is too human. i am terribly > disappointed in you. > wally > > > -COLIN - WE LOVE YOU!!! > > > > smooch, smooch, mwah! > > > > (I swear by all gods that be or may be, that I am > not > > drunk and I am not on drugs. I'm just in a really > > weirdly happy stupid kind of mood and I just know > I'm > > going to pay for this later, but who even cares?) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:06:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: alone -- here njc --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > i wish i were smarter. That would be too scary. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:36:57 +0000 From: tantra-apso Subject: NJC My heart test result finally arrived in the post this morning. Unfortunately, it was positive. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:12:32 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Re: NJC which means.... ????? you have a heart or you have heart problems? sorry I don't know but please tell us more because I and we care... My heart test result finally arrived in the post this morning. Unfortunately, it was positive. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:30:51 -0600 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: NJC colin! so good to se you back. now - tell us more - what does "positive" mean? what happens now? many many hugs to you - i've missed you!! cindy <> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:09:24 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: alone -- here njc Wally, I am sad you are feeling lonely but I am happy you told us... I think you are among the smartest people I know! Your post triggered a song in my head, one of my favorite Patty Griffin songs. Do you know it? Here are the lyrics: Top of the World I wished I was smarter Wished I was stronger I wished I loved Jesus The way the my wife does I wished it'd been easier Instead of any longer I wished I could've stood Where you would've been proud That won't happen now That won't happen now There's a whole lot of singing That's never gonna be heard Disppearing every day Without so much as a word Somehow I think I broke the wings Off that little songbird And she's never gonna fly To the top of the world Now To the top of the world I don't have to answer Any of these questions Don't have no god to Teach me no lessons I come home in the evening Sit in my chair One night they called me for supper But I never got up I stayed right there In my chair There's a whole lot of singing That's never gonna be heard Disappearing every day Without so much as a word Somehow I think I broke the wings Off a little songbird And she's never gonna fly To the top of the world Now To the top of the world I wished I'd had known you Wished I had shown you All of the things I Was on the side But I'd pretend to be sleeping When you'd come in in the morning To whisper goodbye Go work in the rain I don't know why Don't know why Cause everyone's singing We just wanna be heard Disappearing every day Without so much as a word Somehow? Gonna grab a hold Of that little songbird And take her for a ride To the top of the world Right now To the top of the world ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:25:08 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC Maggie, mistress of raffle ceremonies, wrote: > Lori and I are co-chairing the raffle, so expect to > hear more from us, right Lori? You betcha!! Lori ~ http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant.asp?runner=DCNO-3152&year=2003 ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:30:43 -0500 From: "Lavieri, Vince [185776]" Subject: Blue- #30 top album all time I have only read up to #30 on the Rolling Stone top 500 albums and at #30 is Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!! Before anyone rips into Rolling Stone as is the custom here for their making of lists, I have just read 273 posts about favorite and least favorotes songs off of each album, among all the lists we do here, so please, if we can make lists, Rolling Stone can make lists, and instead of being snippy at Rolling Stone as is the custiom, let's celebrate a real high placement for Joni! "Oh, but Mabel, it should have been For the Roses. Rolling Stone is a stupid filty rag." "Now Petunia, you know it should have been Heijra. Jann Wenner should be castrated." Vince, the usual heretic here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:13:37 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Jonifest 2003 pics (NJC) > Does anyone have the website addy to these??? http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/album25 Happy (American) Thanksgiving! Lori ~ http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant/2003/fundraising.jsp ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:23:52 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Saw Joni on VH1 Classic Thank you so much for responding Maggie! Oh! Oh! That really hurts! (about your brother) I'm sorry but your brother is in deep doggie pooh with me too! I would have loved to have been there as well! I say that I don't miss not seeing her, but I think I would have to make that concert an exception because of the number of fellow Jonilistas attending and because that was a time that she was just starting to come back to us after being out of the public eye for so long. There was such an excitement on the Joni list about it! I'll never forget it. Love, Sherelle >From: "Maggie McNally" >To: "Sherelle Smith" ,"JMDL (E-mail)" > >Subject: RE: Saw Joni on VH1 Classic >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:10:31 -0500 > >Hi Sherelle, > >Just wanted to quickly confirm ('though I'm sure you have already received >plenty of feedback) that, yes, the date was 1998. I remember that I flew >from Boston to San Francisco to attend the Joni/Bob/Van Bay Area concert >and then flew back. My brother got an invitation to attend the taping and >declined and DIDN'T CONTACT ME because he "knew" that I wouldn't want to go >back to the west coast again so soon. I still haven't forgiven him that >assumption! > >Glad you got to see it...it's such a winner. > >Best, >Maggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sherelle Smith [mailto:sherellesmith@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:04 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Saw Joni on VH1 Classic > > > I was on my way out the door Saturday evening when I saw Joni > on VH1 Classic > doing "Woodstock" and was in 7th heaven! My daughter had > driven down from > Connecticut to visit and she was treating me to dinner. she > knows how much I > love Joni so she just sat there and giggled at me! Joni was > playing her V-8 > and it sounded fantastic! Believe it or not, I have never seen > her live but > I don't feel deprived in any way. Her music fills me up so > much and as I > have said in the past, in my opinion, live for Joni doesn't > get any better > than Shadows and Light. > > I think the broadcast was taken from "Painting with Words and > Music". Was > that the special that so many of our Jonilistas attended? I > think the date > on the video was 1998. Help me out here! (Smile) > > Sherelle > > _________________________________________________________________ > Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home > entertainment equipment, > video game reviews, and more here. > http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx > _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:39:12 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC Aw, shucks! Happy U.S. Thanksgiving Day, everyone. A day set aside to eat...now THAT's my kind of holiday! Maggie formerly the Jonifest "Cordial Culinary Queen" -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:45 PM To: Maggie McNally; Lori Fye; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC --- Maggie McNally wrote: > Sounds like a good plug for all things Jonifest 2004 > ... come to the fest, and participate in the raffle > by creating something wonderful and then buying > tickets! > > Lori and I are co-chairing the raffle, so expect to > hear more from us, right Lori? > Well, we just KNOW we're going to hear from you, Ms Maggie - but that's OK, because I can't think of a person I'd rather be nagged by than your charming self! :-) ===== Catherine Toronto --------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:44:41 +0000 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: NJC Lavieri, Vince [185776] wrote: >which means.... ????? > > > I have heart disease. thanks vince. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:46:04 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC Oooohhhh, I like that title...formerly your Cordial Culinary Queen, presently your Mistress of Raffle Ceremonies. Way cool. -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fye [mailto:lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:25 AM To: Maggie McNally; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Joni Fridge Magnets? NJC Maggie, mistress of raffle ceremonies, wrote: > Lori and I are co-chairing the raffle, so expect to > hear more from us, right Lori? You betcha!! Lori ~ http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant.asp?runner=DCNO-3152&year=2003 ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:46:14 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Joni Mitchell Handwritten Song List A tad expensive for my wallet, but nice to look at just the same. Copy and paste this link to your browser if it breaks up here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=3366394429&category=210 Lori ~ http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant/2003/fundraising.jsp ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:52:54 +0000 From: tantra-apso Subject: Re: NJC Cynthia Vickery wrote: >colin! so good to se you back. >now - tell us more - what does "positive" mean? what happens >now? > > > it emans i have heart disease, more drugs. seeing the Dr tomorrow and the cardiolgist later. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:11:11 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: alone -- here njc -- plus b I r T h D a Y s ! ! ! Wally writes: > i wish i had a good job. i wish i were smarter. i wish it were autumn. i wish i were spending thanksgiving day with someone. i wish i had a home somewhere. i wish i wish i wish. Gee, Wally, I wish wish wish I could help. But as a wiser man than I once said, "Wish in one hand and poop in the other and see which you get first." Sorry I haven't been able to keep up lately. Happy birthdays to Brian and Jim! I hope you both had spectacular days. - --Troy, who just found out that the first gay marriages in Massachusetts are most likely to happen on his Monday birthday in mid-May ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:52:44 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Blue- #30 top album all time "I have only read up to #30 on the Rolling Stone top 500 albums and at #30 is Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!" It's also the highest ranking LP of any female...I haven't gotten that issue yet but had read about the ranking of Blue...hopefully it's in my mailbox as we speak. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Temptation" 6/11/99 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Colin, you are certainly in my prayers - I am so sorry to hear this - hope you ahve friends there with you - you certainly have all of us with you - Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:14 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Joni's Basketball Game See how many Joni song titles you can find! Happy Thanksgiving! Larry: Good morning Morgantown, and welcome to today's contest on this sunny Sunday between The California Sweet Birds & The Woodstock Coyotes. And helping me with today's broadcast, here's Don Carey... Don: Thanks Larry, and I know that even though we may be interrupting people's parties over the holidays, I hope they'll take time to watch this game, after all it's for free if you're watching from home! I don't know where I stand in sizing these two teams up...help me separate the shadows and light here, willya Larry? Larry: I'll give it a try Don, but as you know I'm a bit of a strange boy and comparing these two young squads is like deciphering a menu in a Chinese cafe. The Sweet Birds, as you know, just signed a man from Mars who only plays defense, and the coach is trying to teach him to play both sides. Now, if he's not able to do that, the Coyotes will have a banquet on the offensive boards. How do you stop them on those 5-on-4 breaks? Down to you, Don. Don: Right you are, Larry. If they can't turn around that same situation, then nothing can be done to prevent Woodstock from winning this game and making the Birds' coach a blue boy. As you know, their coach Richard Willy, used to be the priest in his local parish, and the last time I saw Richard we talked about his chances in this particular game. Here's what he had to say...(cut to tape) Richard: Well fellas, I gotta tell you that I had a king-sized headache trying to put together a game plan because our mascot, the Black Crow, was flapping around in my office and all I could hear was the beat of black wings! I had to tell the guy "I sure would like to see you sometime in a dark alley of some off night backstreet, I'll give you a piece of my mind", but changed my mind and after some conversation he left me alone. Why couldn't I have a quieter mascot, like a bird that whistles or something? Hey, no apologies from me, you know? Don: I think I understand where Coach Willy is coming from, and it's certainly going to be dog eat dog out there on the floor as the Coyotes attempt taming the tiger-like offense of the visiting Coyotes. And how about this Joni Mitchell, Larry? What a story that is! Larry: Boy, I'll say Don...just a month ago she was only a fan, a mere blonde in the bleachers, when she was recruited to replace the starting center who had twisted an ankle. Almost instantly she seemed to have the urge for going straight to the basket, and her wide repertoire of shots soon had her teammates calling her "Dr. Junk". She has proven herself to be a real woman of heart. And mind you, she's no slouch in the assist department either. When she's double-teamed & in trouble, child let me tell you she can find the open man. Even my old man, who as you know is a hall of famer, would look like a dancin' clown trying to stop her as she leads her team to number one in the division. Call me an impossible dreamer, but this ladies' man thinks you're living in dreamland if you think anyone can stop this lucky girl & her teammates. Talk to me, Don... Don: I agree all the way. She knows how to hit the court and spark this California offense. I mean, it's pure electricity when she's out there, and it's a case of you can't catch her once she decides to fast break. All I want is for the gallery here in the stands to appreciate how she goes for the roses every time she handles the ball. I almost wish I had a chair in the sky to watch her play - that would be cool! I mean when she's on the floor, she's the only joy in town. Larry? Larry: Well Don, I'm sorry to say that we've had so much pre-game that we missed the game! You've gone way over the borderline with your adoration of Joni Mitchell, just like me. Oh well, cry me a river. Don, as always I enjoy the arrangement of broadcasting these games with you, and stay in touch. Don: Hey, me too Larry, I wouldn't trade the experience for love or money...and as always, my best to you, and enjoy your night ride home! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Lori ~ http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant/2003/fundraising.jsp ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:10:16 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Joni's Basketball Game At 11/26/2003 11:30 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >See how many Joni song titles you can find! Happy Thanksgiving! This reminds me of a JMDL writing contest I wanted to have once where the only rule was to use as many of Joni's song titles as possible. I guess you win, Bob. Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:21:42 EST From: CoyoteRick@aol.com Subject: Re: Our Shooting Star's Missing Star Dear Correspondents: Re: Joni's Missing Star on Hollywood Boulevard David asked: I seem to remember Joni saying somewhere that people buy those stars -- do we know if this is true? Kakki replied: No, you have to be nominated and selected and reviewed by a number of groups, but the person or group nominating you have to pay for the installation and maintenance, ceremony costs, etc., and I think a portion also goes to the Hollywood Historic Trust. Now me: Sorry for the delay in responding. A few quick facts. The first star was placed in 1960 (Joanne Woodward). It's now a cultural historic monument as designated by the City of Los Angeles. Kakki is right -- both about the nomination process and that there is a SIGNIFICANT cost in having your star on the Boulevard. I was once on the Board of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce (representing my employer) and recall it was something like $15K in costs for manufacturing, placing on the PUBLIC street (costs cannot be paid by taxpayers), the Ceremony, and this-n-that. The "Stars" are managed by the CofC through a non-profit trust called Hollywood Historic Trust (a pass-through trust). It's actually not a money-maker for anyone, nor does Hollywood Heritage (the architectural preservation group, with which I am involved and to which Kakki referred) receive proceeds. The only revenues are for the shop owners from the continuing tourist revenues -- and the tourists love those silly stars. It amazes me when something happens to a "star" that people (locals and tourists alike) make a pilgrimage to that person's "star" to place wreaths or flowers. So, the "stars" do take on a memorial status for the individual. Note recent pictures of Jacko's star being "flowered" as a show of support. Re: Joni and absence of her star. I very well remember at he dedication in Toronto of her star there, she remarked it was a particular honor since it was free. With disdain, she mentioned you had to pay for your star in Hollywood, which she thought was somehow "unethical." I believe that was the word she used, but, maybe Ashara has this on tape? She probably didn't consider the LA "stars" are part of a public monument and someone has to pay -- not the citizens of LA. So, it wouldn't be me that suggests this idea be pursued to Ms. Mitchell. She has definite feelings to the contrary. Many of these are done without fanfare and some even after the recipient has passed away. Many times fans or families of "stars" often apply (willing to pay costs) and are accepted or rejected based upon their stature in the business. It's fairly subjective, but, is subject to the approval of a somewhat large committee of entertainment professionals' approval. They meet once a year and select 20 people from the large base of nominations. There are some heartwarming stories of fans donating dollars for "stars" who have fallen on hard times. My guess is Joni would be a shoe-in if she, her family, or fan base asked. The star or the star's estate must be willing to cooperate. So, to be clear, absence is not an editorial on her position or her accomplishments. There is no foundation or trust giving dollars for placements. It's a tourist venue and someone has to pay. I'm just glad it's not us citizens, right, Kakki! No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California "Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:35:53 -0600 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Re: Joni's Basketball Game You have waaaaaaay too much time on your hands or your mind on Joni... DR. Steve Freud on Joni Mitchell fetishes... - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Joni's Basketball Game > See how many Joni song titles you can find! Happy Thanksgiving! > > Larry: Good morning Morgantown, and welcome to today's contest on this > sunny Sunday between The California Sweet Birds & The Woodstock Coyotes. > And helping me with today's broadcast, here's Don Carey... > > Don: Thanks Larry, and I know that even though we may be interrupting > people's parties over the holidays, I hope they'll take time to watch this > game, after all it's for free if you're watching from home! I don't know > where I stand in sizing these two teams up...help me separate the shadows > and light here, willya Larry? > > Larry: I'll give it a try Don, but as you know I'm a bit of a strange boy > and comparing these two young squads is like deciphering a menu in a > Chinese cafe. The Sweet Birds, as you know, just signed a man from Mars who > only plays defense, and the coach is trying to teach him to play both > sides. Now, if he's not able to do that, the Coyotes will have a banquet on > the offensive boards. How do you stop them on those 5-on-4 breaks? Down to > you, Don. > > Don: Right you are, Larry. If they can't turn around that same situation, > then nothing can be done to prevent Woodstock from winning this game and > making the Birds' coach a blue boy. As you know, their coach Richard Willy, > used to be the priest in his local parish, and the last time I saw Richard > we talked about his chances in this particular game. Here's what he had to > say...(cut to tape) > > Richard: Well fellas, I gotta tell you that I had a king-sized headache > trying to put together a game plan because our mascot, the Black Crow, was > flapping around in my office and all I could hear was the beat of black > wings! I had to tell the guy "I sure would like to see you sometime in a > dark alley of some off night backstreet, I'll give you a piece of my mind", > but changed my mind and after some conversation he left me alone. Why > couldn't I have a quieter mascot, like a bird that whistles or something? > Hey, no apologies from me, you know? > > Don: I think I understand where Coach Willy is coming from, and it's > certainly going to be dog eat dog out there on the floor as the Coyotes > attempt taming the tiger-like offense of the visiting Coyotes. And how > about this Joni Mitchell, Larry? What a story that is! > > Larry: Boy, I'll say Don...just a month ago she was only a fan, a mere > blonde in the bleachers, when she was recruited to replace the starting > center who had twisted an ankle. Almost instantly she seemed to have the > urge for going straight to the basket, and her wide repertoire of shots > soon had her teammates calling her "Dr. Junk". She has proven herself to be > a real woman of heart. And mind you, she's no slouch in the assist > department either. When she's double-teamed & in trouble, child let me tell > you she can find the open man. Even my old man, who as you know is a hall > of famer, would look like a dancin' clown trying to stop her as she leads > her team to number one in the division. Call me an impossible dreamer, but > this ladies' man thinks you're living in dreamland if you think anyone can > stop this lucky girl & her teammates. Talk to me, Don... > > Don: I agree all the way. She knows how to hit the court and spark this > California offense. I mean, it's pure electricity when she's out there, and > it's a case of you can't catch her once she decides to fast break. All I > want is for the gallery here in the stands to appreciate how she goes for > the roses every time she handles the ball. I almost wish I had a chair in > the sky to watch her play - that would be cool! I mean when she's on the > floor, she's the only joy in town. Larry? > > Larry: Well Don, I'm sorry to say that we've had so much pre-game that we > missed the game! You've gone way over the borderline with your adoration of > Joni Mitchell, just like me. Oh well, cry me a river. Don, as always I > enjoy the arrangement of broadcasting these games with you, and stay in > touch. > > Don: Hey, me too Larry, I wouldn't trade the experience for love or > money...and as always, my best to you, and enjoy your night ride home! > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential > and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient > of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, > retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any > action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. 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I mean, gee, someone/some group in Toronto had to pay for the star there - they don't just materialize like magic from the art gods ;-) And I personally would not want stars in Hollywood decided totally and arbitrarily by some government agency and paid for with taxpayers' money, either. I think if the process could be properly presented and explained to Joni, she might reconsider her views. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:01:37 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Joni's #30 Today in the Rolling Stone "Blue" is number 30 in the 500 Greatest Albums. With that I wish you all a "Happy Thanksgivig". Thinking how we lured those Native Americans to the table-"Judas in the end" Peace Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:13:33 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC --- tantra-apso wrote: > My heart test result finally arrived in the post > this morning. > Unfortunately, it was positive. > > -- Colin!!!! You're back! What do you mean- it was positive? If it means that you have a heart, that's a good thing, isn't it? Details please! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:15:56 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject: alone -- here njc --- Kate Bennett wrote: > Wally, I am sad you are feeling lonely but I am > happy you told us... I > think you are among the smartest people I know! Your > post triggered a > song in my head, one of my favorite Patty Griffin > songs. Do you know it? > Here are the lyrics: > > Top of the World > > I wished I was smarter > Wished I was stronger > I wished I loved Jesus > The way the my wife does > Kate - I LOVE that song! I heard a version by, I'm sure it's the Dixie Chicks (?) recently. But of course, Patty's is so much better (ain't that always the way?) Wally, I'd have been kinder to you in my post earlier this morning, because I'm sure I used up my NICE quotient for the year in a few hours yesterday. Honest to God, Wallito, what would we do without you? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:17:33 -0000 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC Hi Ron Thanks for all this input - I think you're on to something with the lyrics. I'll have a good old search through. I'll also talk to the others about putting more of the lyrics up on the website. Martin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: ron To: Martin Giles Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC Ron said... > > so lets look at the lyrics page (the cds in my car & oh wow does that > fretless bass sound amazing through that nice big 12 inch subwoofer) well > there aint too many lyrics to pick from on your website (& you really ought > to fix that!!!!) > > "brittle clay cliche" nah - definitely not - unless youre describing what > your music isnt > > "shadow echoes" mmmm - nah - a bit lacking in the humour > > "exciting; completely mad + just a little bit frightening... " oooohhh - now > we're getting somewhere > > "bobblehats and beer music... " well - i like that - but it would only for > people already familiar with your music - no one else would get it... > > look through the lyrics already written - i got a hunch youll find something > perfect in there somewhere!!! > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:20:42 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Thanksgiving njc Happy Thanksgiving, Americans - and non-Americans, too, what the hey! Thanksgiving is a pretty cool idea, all around. Every country should have one. Even though it's not MY thanksgiving, there's always something to be grateful for (or greatful). I'm grateful for the joni-list and the jonilisters. I loves youse guys! Even the joni-onlies, who won't get this list. I wish them also a happy 'merican Thanksgiving, but they'll never know. (How cool is that?) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:26:10 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's Basketball Game --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > See how many Joni song titles you can find! Happy > Thanksgiving! > > Larry: Good morning Morgantown, and welcome to > today's contest on this > sunny Sunday between The California Sweet Birds & > The Woodstock Coyotes. - ------------------------------- Muller, that was feckin' brilliant! I was going to ask if there WAS a prize, but man, you should be GETTING a prize (of some kind). Way to go! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:25:54 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Snapshot of our Desert Island Joni (Most/Least) Cool idea, Michael. You said, "+ Songs marked by a plus sign do not appear on either Hits or Misses." Now, Lama: I think the song selection and packaging of 'hits' and 'mis s es' are the two most destructive decisions she ever made in her long career. If you read the stories on 'mis s es', many of them are bitter or angry without the insight of her sharpest writing. I know not every one likes "Dry Cleaner", "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow", and "Harlem In Havana" as much as I do, but how could Reprise let her put out 'hits' and 'mis s es' without "Converstation", "Cold Blue Steel", "Amelia" and "The Last Time I Saw Richard"? To borrow a phrase I picked up on Parsonage Lane, "What were they thinking?!" Too bad she didn't do even a trace of marketing first. There are some cool tracks on 'mis s es' of course but I'd take out these 6 (of the 14) to make room for some of the JMDL favorites marked with "+"... Passion Play - Nothing Can Be Done - The Beat of Black Wings - Impossible Dreamer - Sex Kills (especially) -- The Recurring Dream - Here is your list of JMDL favorites not on 'hits' nor on 'mis s es': ============================= Cactus Tree + Conversation * + The Last Time I Saw Richard + Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire + Same Situation * + Down To You + Don't Interrupt The Sorrow + Amelia + Refuge Of The Roads + Song For Sharon + Don Juan's Reckless Daughter * + The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines * + Moon At The Window * + The Three Great Stimulants * + Ethiopia * + My Secret Place * + Two Grey Rooms * + The Sire Of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song) + Harlem In Havana * + Man From Mars * + Comes Love * + A Case Of You (BSN) * + ============================= All the best, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Our Shooting Star's Missing Star --- CoyoteRick@aol.com wrote: > Dear Correspondents: > > Re: Joni's Missing Star on Hollywood Boulevard > ... > Re: Joni and absence of her star. I very well > remember at he dedication in > Toronto of her star there, she remarked it was a > particular honor since it was > free. With disdain, she mentioned you had to pay for > your star in Hollywood, > which she thought was somehow "unethical." Well, of course, nothing is really free, but I imagine her Toronto star was paid for by donations and/or tax dollars, likely the latter, and I don't begrudge the few of my cents that paid for that either. (You can take the Canadian out of Canada, but you can't take the Canada out of the Canadian, eh?) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:37:15 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Snapshot of our Desert Island Joni (Most/Least) --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > Now, Lama: I think the song selection and packaging > of 'hits' and 'mis s > es' are the two most destructive decisions she ever > made in her long career. ... > > Too bad she didn't do even a trace of marketing > first. Here's my 2-cents on that. I think Joni did it deliberately, to be ornery, and to expose people to a wider variety of her songs than they might have heard on a market-researched/focus-grouped version that the suits approved. I think she also did it to piss off the suits. Whether or not it was a mistake probably doesn't matter. She has since done Travelogue and BSN and the Geffen thingummy and I bet no one's making a lot of cash off those. You've got to hand it to our Joan - she has chutzpah and she's not afraid to use it. She stuck it to the man like so many of us would like to do. I say, you go, grrrrlll! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:47:11 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: thanksgiving njc Subject: - Happy Thanksgiving! A lesson learned.!: A young man named Tim received a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with profanity. Tim tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's vocabulary. Finally, Tim was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. Tim shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even ruder. Tim, in desperation, threw up his hand, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, Tim quickly opened the door to the freezer. The Parrot calmly stepped out onto Tim's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior." Tim was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?" HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Take Care everyone, gene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:52:47 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC --- tantra-apso wrote: > Cynthia Vickery wrote: > > >colin! so good to se you back. > >now - tell us more - what does "positive" mean? > what happens > >now? > > > > > > > it emans i have heart disease, more drugs. seeing > the Dr tomorrow and > the cardiolgist later. Colin, the good news is - now you know what's going on. Now you can do whatever needs to be done to get better or to control whatever it is. Don't stay away so long, OK? Keep us posted about what's going on with you and don't be afraid to vent if you have to. Love... ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:09:08 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: alone -- here njc and Happy Thanksgiving Wally writes: > i wish i had a good job. i wish i were smarter. i wish it were autumn. i wish i were >spending thanksgiving day with someone. i wish i had a home somewhere. i wish i wish i >wish. and Troy Murphy writes: >--Troy, who just found out that the first gay marriages in Massachusetts are most likely to >happen on his Monday birthday in mid-May There's your solution Walter! You and Smurph can get married in May and you can become a U.S. citizen. I wanna be the flower girl :~) Happy Thanksgiving for all the U.S. jmdlers. May you and your families have a wonderful day tomorrow. Let's be thankful for the things we have. "Heavanly Father, bless us And keep us all alive There's 10 of us to dinner And not enough for five" Jimmy NP You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant Walk right in it's around the back Just a half a mile from the railroad track You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:15 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Let us be thankful NJC This was a post from jmdler Sue Cameron 4 years ago, which I'd like to post again. I AM THANKFUL... ...for the taxes that I pay because it means that I am employed. ...for the mess to clean after a party because it means I have been surrounded by friends. ...for the clothes that fit a little too snug because it means I have enough to eat. ...for my shadow who watches me work because it means I am out in the sunshine. ...for a lawn that needs mowing, windows that need cleaning and gutters that need fixing because it means I have a home. ...for all the complaining I hear about government because it means we have freedom of speech. ...for the spot I find at the far end of the parking lot because it means I am capable of walking. ...for my huge heating bill because it means I am warm. ...for the lady behind me in church who sings off key because it means that I can hear. ...for the piles of laundry and ironing because it means I have clothes to wear. ...for weariness and aching muscles at the end of the day because it means I have been productive. ...for the alarm that goes off in the early morning hours because it means that I am alive. ...for getting too much e-mail because it lets me know I have friends who are thinking of me! ...for having to wait until next year for the new Joni CD because at least there will be one! (This one, I'm not so sure about) HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL THOSE WHO CELEBRATE!!! Jimmy (Thanks Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:53:58 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Basketball Game "This reminds me of a JMDL writing contest I wanted to have once where the only rule was to use as many of Joni's song titles as possible." Well, if you ever have it, this will be my submittal! I'll add that it was inspired by Wally's question asking about the Joni basketball article. Wally, I hope some of your wishes come true, and I know how you feel. Sometimes I feel like my bestest friends, the only people willing to listen to me, are right here. Bob NP: The Beatles, "Get Back" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:05:48 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Fun things for the office njc This stuff is hilarious! http://www.despair.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:42:51 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: a blue motel room in rhode island -- NJC I am visiting friends in Rhode Island for the holiday. Tonight they took me to a restaurant we used to go to when I lived here. "Blue Motel Room" played during dinner, and I was grateful. God is in the details. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Thanks for making my cyber world and real world better places. - --Troy, trying to hold on to his thankfulness after finding out his hosts aren't serving turkey tomorrow. Huh! I guess that's what I get for hanging with unrepentant commies. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #588 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)