From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #579 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 21 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 579 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The J-men are back! NJC [JRMCo1@aol.com] Subject: Re: Spanish names NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #578 [Keith Epley ] Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJC No wonder Victor hasn't posted much lately... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC No wonder Victor hasn't posted much lately... [Jerry Notaro ] Jonifest Videos - NJC ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Jonifest Videos - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] RE: the song about the midway ["Maggie McNally" ] Re: NJC No wonder Victor hasn't posted much lately... [waytoblu ] Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re:What kind of thing are we?? NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Mj njc now rl ["Kate Bennett" ] best River cover ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Dentist NJC ["Steve Polifka" ] RE: Dentist NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Washington Post article re: gay marriage! - NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: unchained melody [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] Re: lesson in survival [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] (NJC) 49% of the way there! ["Lori Fye" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:13:31 -0500 From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: The J-men are back! NJC Thanks for your heart-warming welcome, Mr. Muller. I've missed you back! Good to be home again. Jimmy!!! So good to see you again! Many's the times I've thought back fondly to the time Alison and I spent as neighbors to you and your Cuban Adonis (he'll get a kick out of that characterization, eh?) during that glorious Jonifest a year back. M-I-S-S-U much, tambien. Looking forward to the discouse, ya'll. - -Julius Bob.Muller writes: > Hi Jimmy - > > Julius, great to see your by-lines again too...I've missed > you. > > Bob > > NP: Judy Collins, "Someday Soon" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:11:05 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Subject: Re: Spanish names NJC Hello Wally, Emiliano and Joseph, Yes, Mitsubishi had a 4X4 (SUV) which they called 'Pajero' until they found out that it meant 'wanker'. They still sell it but it's now called the 'Montero'. The Opel 'Nova' does indeed translate as 'it doesn't go', as Emiliano says. It's now known as the Opel Corsa but Brits still call it the Vauxhall Nova. Maybe one of the German speaking jonilistas can confirm that Rolls-Royce once had a model called 'Silver Mist' which translates as 'dung' or 'droppings', not an image you'd want to push. Joseph, do you have any classes with Lawrence Grossberg? Or Girma Negash, an Eithiopian guy now teaching in Political Science in Chapel Hill? I met them both in a conference recently. Very interesting to meet them both. What happened to your legs? mike in barcelona NP the folks who live on the hill - brad mehldau ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:57:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc --- Mark or Travis wrote: > I have just gotten home from seeing Rickie Lee Jones > from 2nd row > center at the Moore Theatre in downtown Seattle. I > can't write > anymore about this just at this moment. All I can > say right now in > the immortal words of our own dear Kakki is oh > my GOD!! > > Mark E > (more in love than ever) See? See? It's not just me! I saw her last week here in Toronto and she was amazing. Doesn't she live somehwere in Washington? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:20:16 -0500 From: "David Rahall" Subject: Michael Dearest (njc) In his mugshot, Michael Jackson looks *exactly* like Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford in "Mommie Dearest"! David Rahall np: The Today Show ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:54:36 -0600 From: Keith Epley Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #578 Hello, all This is just a test. JMDL Digest wrote: > JMDL Digest Friday, November 21 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 578 > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re:What kind of thing are we?? NJC [Gertus@aol.com] > WTRF-early impression. ["mack watson-bush" ] > lesson in survival ["Bill Dollinger" ] > Re: Spanish names NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] > Re: Band Of Gold NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] > love actually [Jenny Goodspeed ] > Re: Mj njc [FMYFL@aol.com] > Joni on french TV ["Laurent Olszer" ] > drag names NJC [BRYAN8847@aol.com] > Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC ["Martin Giles" ] > Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] > NJC Judy Collins Wildflower Festival [Gary Zack RE: Spanish names NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] > best River cover [Bruce Kimerer ] > Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC [Catherine McKay Re: Spanish names NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] > Oh, Covers Boy . . . [Murphycopy@aol.com] > Re: 40 watt successes njc ["Kate Bennett" ] > Today in History: November 21 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] > Today's Library Links: November 21 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] > Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc ["Mark or Travis" RE: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc ["Wally Kairuz" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:26:19 EST > From: Gertus@aol.com > Subject: Re:What kind of thing are we?? NJC > > Hi Martin and other Stryngs, > > That's a tricky one because, of course, you are unique. Contemporary folk > always used to cover a multitude of sins and tends to attract my interest but I > guess "folk" might put some people off. I would prefer that to "contemporary > adult" though which has to be a somewhat ageist phrase doesn't it? > > Jacky > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:41:49 -0600 > From: "mack watson-bush" > Subject: WTRF-early impression. > > Never really cared for the tune unchained melody until now. > Oooohhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!, for lack of a better description. Joan sings the hell > out of those lines. > > mack > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:48:59 -0500 > From: "Bill Dollinger" > Subject: lesson in survival > > I was listening to For the Roses last > night, and I wondered if anyone else > was hearing the line as I was, > "Oh baby, I can't seem to make it with you socially, > There's this reefer on me..." > > (I know the line is reef around me, but > I can't help but chuckle at this...) > > Bill > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:22:11 EST > From: Murphycopy@aol.com > Subject: Re: Spanish names NJC > > Wally writes: > > << w, loving this multilingual stuff on the list >> > > !Hola! > > Que tal? > > Feliz navidad. > > Hasta la vista. > > Stay away from my seesta. > > --Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:42 EST > From: Murphycopy@aol.com > Subject: Re: Band Of Gold NJC > > Muller writes: > > << Then again, from what Guzzi has told me...well, let's just say that sexual > dysfunction is a hot topic with you and leave it at that. >> > > Well, I was nervous, if you must know, Bob, because "Band of Golden Eggs" > Guzzi and I *were* trying to conceive a child at Full Moon. But the fact that we > didn't isn't because of sexual dysfunction on my, ahem, part. I performed > beautifully. Susan just didn't notice. > > --Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:19:36 -0800 (PST) > From: Jenny Goodspeed > Subject: love actually > > I know this isn't news, but I just got back from seeing Love Actually and the Joni moments were so grand, I had to write to tell everyone to go see it for those moments alone! > > Unfortunately the movie itself was not so grand. Unless you're a big fan of unrequited romantic love between young gorgeous women with exquisite skin and men 5 to 20 years older with considerably more wrinkles. ; ) did have a very good Altman-sized cast though. > > enjoy, jenny > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:57:43 EST > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Re: Mj njc > > In a message dated 11/20/2003 3:24:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kate@katebennett.com writes: > > > Apparently they held a mondo press conference at the local fairgrounds > > concerning the latest allegations which is why they raided his > > place...but ya'll probably know more than me on this :~} > > > > Yes Kate, it doesn't look good for Michael right now, and I hope the > accusations are false. If they are true, I think that justice would be having the king > of pop and Rush Limbaugh sharing the same cell. > > Jimmy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:58:23 +0100 > From: "Laurent Olszer" > Subject: Joni on french TV > > Hi Laurent, and I see you've copied out friend Thierry on the message! One way > to introduce Joni to a wider French audience is to have French musicians cover > her songs, like Thierry does on his website - check it out: > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/yoghill/ThArecs.htm > > Besides the excellent guitar work and Thierry's wonderful voice, check out > which Joni songs he does - Hoo Ha!! > > Bob > > Hi, > The Joni segment on TV just ended. Middle of the road commentary. A couple of > excerpts, 1 stupid IMO: "Blue was her masterpiece and then she tried getting > out of depression by exploring other musical styles". The other one I like > better: "Mingus was an amazing and misunderstood album". Also the reporter > mentioned Joni fought off cancer successfully. I didn't know about that. > I asked Thierry if he could transcribe DED and the man did it! He's waiting > for me to try playing it on guitar to send his work to JMDL guitar database. > Amazing. > > Laurent > NP: Rickie Lee Jones live on french TV > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:17:06 -0500 > From: BRYAN8847@aol.com > Subject: drag names NJC > > >> Some of the funnier drag queen names I remember from when I was a young homo here in Atlanta: > >> > >> Marsha Dimes > >> Tiffany Middlesex > >> Jenny Tonic > > a drag name only Seattle-ites will get: > > Queen Anne Hill > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:37:07 -0000 > From: "Martin Giles" > Subject: Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC > > Yeah Bob, it's that snappy phrase that's evading us. "Adult Contemporary" is > probably close, but not very snappy :) Catherine's suggestion 'Jarofopo' has > a snap! But we'll then have to explain that too... hurrumph :( > > To be serious, I'm not sure how much jazz we have (considering I don't know > the first thing about jazz harmony). But I do see that there is folk, rock > and pop in there. > > So I suppose folk/rock/pop. Still sounds boring though. > > OK, Jarofopo it is then!! > > Martin. In London. > > HEY Azeem?? You've got the album now. How would you describe us? > > > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:25:50 EST > > From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > > Subject: Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC > > > > "What is our style of music?" > > > > Um...good? :~) > > > > But that doesn't really help, does it? I mean, it's much better if it fits > in > > a nice pre-defined niche. That seems to be the problem with most of the > > artists I like, they don't niche very well. > > > > Jazz? Rock? Pop? Folk? > > Yes! > > > > That being said, I would say you're "Adult Contemporary". > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Joni & The Persuasions, "Shadows & Light" > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:50:51 EST > From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > Subject: Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC > > "Yeah Bob, it's that snappy phrase that's evading us. "Adult Contemporary" is > probably close, but not very snappy :) " > > Oh, so it was SNAPPY you wanted! :~) > > Anyway, I'm glad that the talented wordsmith Catherine was able to dovetail > my mundane thought into something worthwhile, Just promise me that when you're > big & famous and playing in the States you'll put me on the guest list... ;~) > > Bob > > NP: Valerie DeLa Cruz, "Both Sides Now" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:13:35 -0800 > From: Gary Zack > Subject: NJC Judy Collins Wildflower Festival > > I noticed some comments regarding Judy Collins recently on the list. > > I have a few singers, etc. that I constantly search on the web regarding > available music, etc., one of which is an all-time fave (go ahead laugh > if you must) Brenda Lee. I was surprised when I came across this: > > Sat 08/07/04 > "Judy Collins Wildflower Festival" > > > Wild Flower Amphitheatre > > > Sat 08/07/04 > Brenda Lee > > > Wild Flower Amphitheatre > > > > This is in White Mills, Pennsylvania. Has anyone ever been to this > "Wildflowers" festival before, and is it an annual thing? > > Here are a couple more Judy related items that may interest the Judy > fans out there: > > Fri, 11/21/2003 Judy Collins Speaking Engagement > Evansville Museum of Arts and Science > Evansvile, IN > Fri, 6/18/2004 Old Man River Gala > Speaking Engagement and book signing > Oklahoma City, OK > > "Wildflowers" was my first Judy album, of course for "Both Sides Now" > and holds a special place for me. Hope this info may interest some of you! > > Best regards, > > Gary Zack > Detroit > > P.S. I had to cut and paste this material - if it doesn't come thru > properly I will re-post the missing information manually!! :-) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:06:50 -0300 > From: "Wally Kairuz" > Subject: RE: Spanish names NJC > > > tomas crucero TOM CRUISE > > lanza brazo fuerte NO CLUE! > > david campo de cobre DAVID COPPERFIELD > > sarah hombre brillante SARAH BRIGHTMAN > > cargar pescadora CARRIE FISHER (this one's really great!!!!) > > > > Happy guessing! > > > > Jimmy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:12:19 -0400 > From: Bruce Kimerer > Subject: best River cover > > My vote for one of the best covers of River is: > > by Holly Cole (luv her) (produced by Larry Klein) > > Bruce > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:14:35 -0500 (EST) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: What kind of thing are we?? NJC > > --- Martin Giles wrote: > Yeah > Bob, it's that snappy phrase that's evading us. > > "Adult Contemporary" is > > probably close, but not very snappy :) Catherine's > > suggestion 'Jarofopo' has > > a snap! But we'll then have to explain that too... > > hurrumph :( > > Never apologize. Never explain. Shorten it to jaro. > Put an accent (grave) on the o, so it's pronounced > jaRO. People will think it's exotic, maybe Portuguese > or something. You will have invented a new kind of > music. Everyone will want to listen to it. > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:37:47 EST > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Re: Spanish names NJC > > In a message dated 11/20/2003 10:05:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > > > lanza brazo fuerte NO CLUE! > > > > Wally, that's Lance Armstrong the American cyclists who's won the last few > Tour DE France races. You got all the others! > > xoxo > Jimmy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:12:44 EST > From: Murphycopy@aol.com > Subject: Oh, Covers Boy . . . > > I got the following in a house concerts-related e-mail . . . Love the CD > title: > > We are also delighted to have Michigan based Terry Gonda > (www.terrygonda.com) to open the show in a rare New England appearance. > Terry is one of those performers who instantly grabs your attention with > her gorgeous voice, passionate lyrics and accomplished guitar playing. She > will have pre-release copies of her new CD, Love, Lose, Repeat that I > expect to will be getting a lot of attention when it's released. In > addition to her original material, the CD features a killer covers of Joni > Mitchell's Both Sides Now and Karla Bonoff's Home. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:00:22 -0800 > From: "Kate Bennett" > Subject: Re: 40 watt successes njc > > >Bear with me as I try to find my footing here on the list. I've been > away for awhile> > > Welcome back julius , I have missed you & your wonderful writing! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:05:34 -0500 > From: ljirvin@jmdl.com > Subject: Today in History: November 21 > > 1966: Chuck and Joni perform at the Second Fret in Philadelphia, wrapping up a six day engagement. > > 1970: Joni performed at London's Royal Festival Hall. > More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=431 > 1975: Joni, as part of the Rolling Thunder Revue with Dylan and others, performed twice today at the Boston Music Hall in Boston, Massachusetts - once in the afternoon and again in the evening. > > 1982: Joni married Larry Klein at Elliot Roberts' home in Malibu, California. > > - ---- > For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, > consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: > http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:05:34 -0500 > From: ljirvin@jmdl.com > Subject: Today's Library Links: November 21 > > On November 21 the following articles were published: > > 1972: "Joni Mitchell's New For The Roses" - Los Angeles Times > (Review - Album) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=599 > > > 2002: "'I'm quitting this corrupt cesspool'" - The Guardian > (Review - Album) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=990 > > > 2002: "Joni Mitchell - Travelogue" - London Evening Standard > (Review - Album) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=993 > > > 2002: "Travelogue" - Now Toronto > (Review - Album) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1006 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:29:36 -0800 > From: "Mark or Travis" > Subject: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc > > I have just gotten home from seeing Rickie Lee Jones from 2nd row > center at the Moore Theatre in downtown Seattle. I can't write > anymore about this just at this moment. All I can say right now in > the immortal words of our own dear Kakki is oh my GOD!! > > Mark E > (more in love than ever) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:59:37 -0300 > From: "Wally Kairuz" > Subject: RE: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc > > mark mark mark!!!! come back soon and tell us! > wally > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Mark or > > Travis > > Enviado el: Viernes, 21 de Noviembre de 2003 04:30 a.m. > > Para: JMDL > > Asunto: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc > > > > > > I have just gotten home from seeing Rickie Lee Jones from 2nd row > > center at the Moore Theatre in downtown Seattle. I can't write > > anymore about this just at this moment. All I can say right now in > > the immortal words of our own dear Kakki is oh my GOD!! > > > > Mark E > > (more in love than ever) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2003 #578 > ***************************** > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- > Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:46:50 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . "In addition to her original material, the CD features a killer covers of Joni Mitchell's Both Sides Now and Karla Bonoff's Home." Thanks for the note, Troy...to enjoy this wonderful cover of BSN, all you have to do is spin your complimentary copy of "Bob's Sweet 16 Volume 2" that you got at Jonifest '03. Unless, that is, you've already frisbee'd it away. If you want to hear her take on Karla's gorgeous song you'll need to pick up her release. Thanks to Steve Dulson we were able to get a pre-release this summer! Given how good it is, I am tempted to seek out Gonda's cd to hear the rest of it. Bob NP: Shawn Colvin, "Can't Find My Way Home" (speaking of wonderful covers...) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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If you are not the intended recipient > of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, > retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any > action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect > the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:49:25 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC No wonder Victor hasn't posted much lately... In a message dated 11/21/2003 8:46:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu writes: > "Johnson is a father and performs childrens shows in addition to teaching > music classes and guitar workshops for parents. " > > Hey Victor, when did THAT happen??????????? > Jerry, you know what always happens at a Jonifest :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:21:18 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . Muller writes: > Thanks for the note, Troy...to enjoy this wonderful cover of BSN, all you have to do is spin your complimentary copy of "Bob's Sweet 16 Volume 2" that you got at Jonifest '03. Damn! And I thought I'd be contributing new 411 to the covers project, my first new input since the Dave van Ronk stuff of years ago. Do you have Michael Jackson's "Strange Boy?" - --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:53:17 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: best River cover "My vote for one of the best covers of River is: by Holly Cole (luv her) (produced by Larry Klein)" This is indeed a sweet one, and one of the few I had BEFORE I started the covers project, which is why it appears on Volume 1. That entire CD (Dark Dear Heart) is well worth having, as is her Tom Waits covers project called Temptation. She's got a well-reviewed release out this year as well called Shade, do you have it? Anyway, back to River...there are lots of REALLY nice ones (Dianne Reeves, Donna Deussen, Betty Buckley, Maggie Anderson (aka Mrs. Gregg Cagno) and MANY more! There are only a couple that are thumbs down as far as I'm concerned. And surprisingly enough, it's comin' on Christmas...and I haven't seen a "River" on a 2003 Christmas release yet. Not that it IS a Christmas song, really, but it does have a tendency to pop up on them from time to time. And it can be tricky to search for too...if you don't believe me, go to Amazon and do a "search by song title" for "River" - YIKES! Bob NP: Shawn Colvin w/Alison Krauss, "Shotgun Down The Avalanche" PS to Bruce - I have to ask, though I fear the answer - what happened with Henry the pug? - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Twenty percent of all first marriages don't make it past five years, and after a mere decade, one-third of all marriages are kaput. Married couples, once dominant in both life and sitcom TV, have gone from 80 percent of all households in the 1950s to 50 percent today. If you peek into the average home, the chances of finding a married couple with kids are just one in four. DeLay, don't delay, marriage needs help. Now along come gay couples to rescue marriage from social and economic irrelevance, casting a queer eye on a straight institution. They seek it for pecuniary reasons -- issues such as estate taxes, etc. -- but also because they seem to be among the last romantics. (No shotgun marriages here.) The odd thing about the opposition to gay marriage is that if the opponents were not so blinded by bigotry and fear, they would see that gay men and lesbians provide the last, best argument for marriage: love and commitment. There is scant reason for marriage anymore, which is why it has become a dicey proposition -- and why 86 million adults are unmarried. Women don't need men to support them or defend them from saber-toothed tigers -- and they can, I have read, even have babies on their own. Men, of course, still need women, if only to bear children and to remind them that they are uncommunicative. (Is a marriage between two men a zone of total silence?) But single guys can adopt kids, and sex is readily available almost anywhere, or so I am told by various city magazines. There is an analogy here -- I think. Just as gays are renowned for moving into urban areas that others have fled, for refurbishing whole neighborhoods and making them attractive, so they might rehabilitate and renew marriage. Of all people, they need it the least. They have already shattered convention with their lifestyles, and demolished our comfy and parochial notions of sexual categories -- heterosexual male, heterosexual female and nothing else. But when it comes to marriage of all things, some of them want to veer toward the traditional. They want commitment and love -- a universal truth in a manner that Jane Austen never envisaged. The dour Republican Party, with DeLay and others promising a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage (can Elizabeth Taylor be included, too?), is once again willing to stand athwart history, yelling stop. In the short term, it will work, since little in politics has the power bigotry does -- certainly not reason. The many GOP politicians who have gay children will have to stifle all that their kids have taught them and fall behind DeLay in his backward march toward a vanished world. Some, though, may succumb to knowledge and empathy and suggest -- softly, of course -- that love and commitment are universals and not confined to a single category of sexual orientation. Gay marriage will not and cannot weaken the institution of marriage. A heterosexual is not somehow less married because a homosexual has tied the knot. On the contrary, the institution will be strengthened, bolstered by the very people who for conservatives represent everything loathsome about modernity. Gays are not attacking marriage. They want to practice it. "Love. Of course, love. Flames for a year, ashes for 30." So says the prince in Giuseppe di Lampedusa's classic novel, "The Leopard." This cynical observation, attributed to a 19th-century man by a 20th-century writer, is hardly out of date. Love is as much a recipe for failure as it is for success, and yet we cling to it because it ennobles us. Love is our emotional opposable thumb, what differentiates us from lower animals, and why we vow - -- sometimes over and over again -- a lifetime's commitment, marriage. If gays can do it and maybe do it better, then Tom DeLay could do us all a real public service by just stepping aside. A whole lot of wonderful people want to come down the aisle. cohenr@washpost.com Would you like to send this article to a friend? Go to http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/admin/emailfriend?contentId=A63763-2003Nov19&sent=no&referrer=emailarticle _______________________________________ Cindy Vickery Daniel Corporation 205-443-4718 direct 205-443-4615 facsimile http://www.danielcorp.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:48:49 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . "Damn! And I thought I'd be contributing new 411 to the covers project" Well, you can still shoot for that...I have only a mere 307 BSN's thus far. I'll give you a heads-up when I get to 410 - by that time, we may be rocking side by side on the front porch of the JMDL retirement home, but then again this song continues to get recorded at a heavy rate. "Do you have Michael Jackson's "Strange Boy?" That would be appropriate, wouldn't it. And it wouldn't be as weird as the one we DO have, by a drag queen duo called Sisterboy. Bob NP: Shawn Colvin, "A Matter Of Minutes" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:33:36 -0500 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . Muller writes: > by that time, we may be > rocking side by side on the front porch of the JMDL > retirement home You mean the Joni Mitchell Home for Aging Children? > And it wouldn't be as weird as the > one we DO have, by a drag queen duo called Sisterboy. I dunno, might be weirder! - --Troy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:38:06 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones - oh my GOD! njc At 11/21/2003 04:57 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: >See? See? It's not just me! I saw her last week here >in Toronto and she was amazing. Doesn't she live >somehwere in Washington? Me three. I saw her in Denver a few days ago and I thought it was amazing. Her band is top notch and, at one point, I actually understood a few of the lyrics. Truly a great show! Les (Colorado) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:29:54 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Jonifest Videos - NJC Hello dear friends, Yesterday I received my 2003 Jonifest videos thanks to the hard work and tireless dedication of Ashara. Ashara, thank you so much for doing this, and thanks to any helpers you may have had out there. I pulled out a tape at random and plugged it in. It was the 2nd half of Sunday's performances and started with the Broadway Showtunes group. I was lucky enough to be a part of this and it was one of the highlights of Jonifest for me. Victor "Broadway" Johnson's solo knocked our sox off that night and I woke up this morning with that song on my mind. I had to rewind and replay it 4 times while I was getting ready for work and that wasn't enough but I had to leave. What was the name of that song? Roberto my love if you're out there, do you have the sheet music for that? Anyway, just when I was starting to come down from the real thing, I'm now re-living it through these wonderful videos. To everyone who performed this year onstage or off - You guys totally rock! And those who didn't, yall rock too. Donna B This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:28:37 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Jonifest Videos - NJC > Hello dear friends, > > Yesterday I received my 2003 Jonifest videos thanks to the hard work > and tireless dedication of Ashara. Ashara, thank you so much for doing > this, and thanks to any helpers you may have had out there. > > I pulled out a tape at random and plugged it in. It was the 2nd half > of Sunday's performances and started with the Broadway Showtunes group. > I was lucky enough to be a part of this and it was one of the highlights > of Jonifest for me. > > Victor "Broadway" Johnson's solo knocked our sox off that night and I > woke up this morning with that song on my mind. I had to rewind and > replay it 4 times while I was getting ready for work and that wasn't > enough but I had to leave. > > What was the name of that song? Roberto my love if you're out there, > do you have the sheet music for that? Bring Him Home, from Les Miserables. And Victor sang it beautifully!!!!!!! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:42:24 -0500 From: "Maggie McNally" Subject: RE: the song about the midway Catching up...as usual. And maybe I'm being fussy, or maybe I'm saying what has already been said, but that wouldn't be the first time that happened here, now would it? Anyway, I thought that the event at which Joni was booed and had things thrown was Amnesty's big shindig, and now Live Aid? Also, was it relief that Joni felt, or was it disappointment? I recalled it being the latter. That said, I agree with you about her wisdom and her need/ability to sing the truth. Best, Maggie NP: Patti Witten - Good Thing It's Only In My Mind -----Original Message----- From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com [mailto:HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:33 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: the song about the midway In a message dated 11/14/03 2:34:51 PM EST, les@jmdl.com writes: << Some of the stoned-out audience was making too much noise (not me; I worship Ms. Mitchell) >> you saw this at the Atlantic City fest in 1969, and we wonder why she didn't go to woodstick, some talk of it being to dangerous, i can only imagine her relief. i remember at Live Aide in 1985 when joni came onstage the crowd booed and threw assorted vegetables and garbage at her. this was also during the time of wild things run fast and dog eat dog. she didn't cry or leave the stage, she laughed and commented on how fitting the garbage was in accordance with the words she sung ( she had done mostly songs from dog eat dog at this point). it was my contention, at that time that she was so right, it still is. and now i feel even more convicted in my point of view, it wasn't just 16 years of growing up and dealing with practiacally unspeakable acts of unkindness, it was true wisdom on her part to create such work and sing it before such people at that very point in relative time. joni sings the truth, always has, i believe she always will, no matter who hates it and possible her for it. how much of the truth is each of us able or willing to handle? God bless you joni, i'm honored that you allow me to hear you. Peace Noel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:42:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: waytoblu Subject: Re: NJC No wonder Victor hasn't posted much lately... > "Johnson is a father and performs childrens shows in addition to teaching > music classes and guitar workshops for parents. " > > Hey Victor, when did THAT happen??????????? > Jerry, you know what always happens at a Jonifest :~) Yeah.....Allison didn't tell anyone, did she??? shhh, shhh....it's actually a secret double life that I've been living. Victor, with just a few more hours to go at work... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:52:30 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: Re: nov 20!!!! njc Thanks Wally and all you other wonderful people who sent me birthday greetings. Had a great time, got a bit of a sore head today. Much appreciated. Love, Joe. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Wally Kairuz To: joe farrell ; Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:20 AM Subject: nov 20!!!! njc > dear joe farrell, > > H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y > > have a wonderful time and lots joni music to light the way! > > love, > wally ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:45:32 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Oh, Covers Boy . . . "I dunno, might be weirder!" Might be, but upon giving it a second thought, I would give Joni's 1965 tune "Favorite Colour" to Michael, it seems written for him with the lines: "What Color Is A Man" (since he's been several different ones himself) "She took her crayons from the box and placed them in my glove" (self-explanatory) Bob NP: Shawn, "Stranded" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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It is so hard to define a genre!...i love it when people come up with their own unique genre that describes them well...(so far I have not come up with mine!)...mary gauthier describes her music as 'country noir'...i love that...sometimes a reviewer will describe you as a genre...then you can use that quote... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:06:55 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Mj njc now rl Well, many in this town believe the allegations to be true based on 'small town' knowledge even though their was no trial last time...didn't rush (how accurate the name now!) finish rehab & go back on the air...? wondering if he was humbled (hopefully) a bit by the experience... >If they are true, I think that justice would be having the king of pop and Rush Limbaugh sharing the same cell.< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:22:35 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: best River cover I love that cover too! Saw her live a few years ago & she sang river...it was great >My vote for one of the best covers of River is: by Holly Cole (luv her) (produced by Larry Klein)< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:19:37 -0600 From: "Steve Polifka" Subject: Re: Dentist NJC Hey everyone, If you're not too busy this afternoon between 2:30 and 4 pm, send me a little prayer while I'm having dental surgury. It's really depressing me now and I haven't even left the apartment! Last week, as they were about to cap a tooth, they discovered it was cracked and now it's got to go.Hopefully, it will just take minutes, but if it breaks, well... I don't want to think about it. Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:43:17 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Dentist NJC nothing will go wrong, darling!!!! saturn, who rules over bones and teeth will protect you. courage now, my hero! love, wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Steve > Polifka > Enviado el: Viernes, 21 de Noviembre de 2003 03:20 p.m. > Para: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Dentist NJC > > > Hey everyone, > If you're not too busy this afternoon between 2:30 and 4 pm, send me a > little prayer while I'm having dental surgury. It's really > depressing me now > and I haven't even left the apartment! > Last week, as they were about to cap a tooth, they discovered it was > cracked and now it's got to go.Hopefully, it will just take > minutes, but if > it breaks, well... I don't want to think about it. > Thanks, > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:49:45 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Washington Post article re: gay marriage! - NJC exactly the point i've been trying to make all these years! what's wrong with having more people that want to raise families within a legal framework????? i was a guest on a local radio station a few nights ago and talked about new marriages and families. except for a couple of very negative people calling in, people's response was very moderate. what's the big deal, i ask? does anybody REALLY feel threatened by same-sex couples being able to get married? maybe i'm missing something or not thinking straight (no P int.) wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Cynthia > Vickery > Enviado el: Viernes, 21 de Noviembre de 2003 11:59 a.m. > Para: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Washington Post article re: gay marriage! - NJC > > > > > Would you like to send this article to a friend? Go to > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/admin/emailfriend?content Id=A63763-2003Nov19&sent=no&referrer=emailarticle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:03:03 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: DQ names NJC Wally says, of drag queen names: > mine would be bette charass. This reminds me of one that Mary and I made up one day: Char Cole Briquet : D Lori ~ http://lrfye.lunarpages.com ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:30:39 EST From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: Re: unchained melody In a message dated 11/21/03 3:01:35 AM EST, les@jmdl.com writes: << Never really cared for the tune unchained melody until now. Oooohhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!, for lack of a better description. Joan sings the hell out of those lines. mack >> i think she hits that song with quite a new bat too, mack, and hits a grand slam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:32:54 EST From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: Re: lesson in survival In a message dated 11/21/03 3:01:35 AM EST, les@jmdl.com writes: << I was listening to For the Roses last night, and I wondered if anyone else was hearing the line as I was, "Oh baby, I can't seem to make it with you socially, There's this reefer on me..." (I know the line is reef around me, but I can't help but chuckle at this...) Bill >> i'm laughing my guts up with ya bill, i never have quite heard it that way. gotta love someone who can find a laugh in church...lol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:30:23 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) 49% of the way there! Hi! I haven't been bugging everyone as much this year as I did last year, but I'm still at it: training with the National AIDS Marathon program (http://www.aidsmarathon.com) to run in the Mardi Gras Marathon (http://www.mardigrasmarathon.com) in New Orleans on February 29! I'm 49% of the way to my fundraising minimum -- that means I have another $1380 to raise by January 2! Will you consider donating to my cause, the Whitman-Walker Clinic in Washington DC? (http://www.wwc.org/hiv_aids_services/statistics.html) It doesn't have to be a whole lot -- every dollar counts! Donating is easy to do -- just follow this link: http://www.aidsmarathon.com/participant.asp?runner=DCNO-3152&year=2003 If you're not comfortable with online transactions, you can visit http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/donorform.pdf and print the form and send it with a check. Or, if you don't have a printer, you can respond to this email and let me know you need a form, and I'll send you one -- PLUS a pre-addressed, stamped envelope! (I'm just trying to cover all my bases and make it as easy as I can!) My pace group is running an "easy" 9 miles this weekend, and our mileage will continue to increase (and decrease for training breaks) throughout the rest of the training season. I'll keep you posted on my progress (both running and fundraising) from time to time. Thanks for reading and considering! Hoping you and your family are well ... Love, Lori ~ http://lrfye.lunarpages.com (not fully functional, but still on the web) ~ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #579 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)