From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #539 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, October 31 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 539 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Ani, njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni Geffen box set -- NJC ["kakki" ] Re: whatcha reading? NJC [Deb Messling ] Re: whatcha reading? NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: "Prowler" and Davis/Slick (LJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Top Ten Reasons Why the JMDL Went Quiet -- NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Today in History: October 31 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: October 31 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:20:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Ani, njc Hi we were among the older but NOT the only older audience members... I think more females (probably 70%?) than males but as far as sexual orientation I didn't really pay attention... I did see a friend who is a local music producer so that was nice, other than that I didn't know too many folks there...a few women with dreads which reminded me of a RLJ concert many moons ago when there were lots of women wearing berets...anyway Ani didn't have her dreads... I wish I could have been closer but don't like that crowd stuffing thing towards the front...she is certainly adorable (does that make me sound old?) lol... I guess the open tuning thing could be considered a similarity but she plays so differently than Joni & there are so many using open tunings these days anyway... >I think the fact that Ani uses open tuning does a lot to increase the similarity to Joni's sound. By the way, since there's a gay thread going on, how was the audience at the show? In Paris it was 99% lesbians (not that I care, just curious).< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:53:59 -0800 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Joni Geffen box set -- NJC Murphy wrote: > I am surprised she hasn't done that yet, what with you running into her so > often over the years! LOLOL!! Think I've told this story before years ago, but when I was a teenager in around 69-71, I used to sneak off to fantastic parties at this house in a canyon nearby where a bunch of musicians and artists lived. It was always open house, 400 hundred people on a weekend, all playing music and doing all those other things hippies did back then (ahem). Anyway, I became very good friends with a couple of the guys (actually fell quite in love with one) who lived there and they were SO much into Joni. I always had this fantasy of her somehow, someday showing up to one of their parties and how that would just make our whole life. Fast forward 30 years and incredibly I've ended up meeting and chatting with her a few times. Those experiences were so amazing that I think I'm set for life! ;-) > What is this? A reaction to all the smoke in the air? Whatever it is, I hope > you recover soon and that the fires get put out ASAP. Yeah, I've been sick since last week when so much smoke settled in. I won't gross you out with the details but it finally knocked me out. The weather and wind has finally changed (it's raining a bit all over!) and all that smoke is now choking out Las Vegas and Phoenix. As I suspected, this has turned out to be the worst fires in CA (and maybe U.S.) history. All those mountains you see burning actually have many tens of thousands of people living in them. There are also some historic towns and special landmarks that have been wiped out. It's incredible what the firefighters have accomplished, in the worst of conditions. Being laid out on the couch the past few days has given me the chance to watch all the coverage. There are so many amazing stories, it is overwhelming. My favorite was last night when they were having a fundraiser for the families in the parking lot of Staples Center where people could come up and donate cash, clothing, Halloween candy, etc. A homeless man walked up and handed the TV personality running the thing an old sack and then disappeared. Inside was found $1,200 in tens, fives and ones. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:16:47 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: whatcha reading? NJC >Wow, I'm very impressed with the caliber of the books that JMDLers are >reading. I'm a librarian, but I read mostly crap - mysteries and such. > Two higher-level books I've read lately are Affinity and Tipping the > Velvet, both by Sarah Waters. Both are Victorian historicals with a > lesbian emphasis. The latter is set in the world of the British music > hall and is quite erotic. The first is about a depressed and repressed > spinster who becomes obsessed with a professional medium who is doing > time in prison. I found it absolutely riveting. She has a third book, > Fingersmith, apparently about grifters and pickpockets - haven't read > that one yet. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:08:02 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: whatcha reading? NJC I agree 100%, Emily. The way this book is structured is a big part of what makes it so engrossing. The reader gets a much more in depth portrait than if the author had started with 'Adeline Virginia Stephen was born on the 25th of January of 1882' and then proceeded to give a chronological account of the known recorded events of this woman's life. Instead she describes the environment, the key players and their influences for the different periods of Virginia's life and gradually constructs the shape of her character and how her thinking and feelings were formed and from there, how her writing evolved. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Emily Tedrowe To: Mark or Travis ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:10 AM Subject: Re: whatcha reading? NJC mark, i loved this book! i especially loved how the author divided the sections into themes (i.e. "home" or "war") rather than going strictly by chronology. -- emily ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:11:36 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: "Prowler" and Davis/Slick (LJC) > To the fellow who, like me and Whitman contains "multitudes," can > laud Davis and Grace Slick in the same voice--way to go. Slick was > always the"seedier" (along with the hyperborean Lou Reed) alternative > to Joni Mitchell. Seedier? I don't get that. Maybe wilder, more outrageous, more explicit (but at the at the same time often more obtuse) but seedy? I don't think of Grace as seedy. At least not any more so than the crowd of musicians she hung out with. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:14:39 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Why the JMDL Went Quiet -- NJC > After a long (3 hours!) meeting and much heated discussion, we've > decided to let you keep your card. Well that's a relief! I can sleep tonight. Mark 'A mass of music and fire. That's me. An old kazoo with some sparklers.' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:27:12 -0600 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Re: Cesaria Evora (NJC) I have seen Cesaria twice and she was excellent both times. One time was in her home country. She did something like five nights - each night on a different island. I saw her on the island which has the government offices and she played in the Parliament building. Imagine sitting in Ottawa in the Parliament watching Joni :-)) I imagine Cesaria's going barefoot must have been a bit chilly the second time I saw here -- in the middle of winter in Wisconsin e ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:18:21 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Why the JMDL Went Quiet -- NJC a kind > and gracious list member. > Don't listen to her. The above is about Maggie herself, not me. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:56:03 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: THE COMPLETE GEFFEN RECORDINGS The sound quality on all 4 albums is much, much better. My standard-issue DOG EAT DOG on CD pales in comparison. It's not just more detail. There's more Joni. There are Joni-with-reverb, Joni-choruses on the far left without reverb, Joni-choruses all the way across the image with reverb, and a single-Joni-smack-in-the-middle, dry, in the vocal booth. DED is not annoying and shrill; DED is fun, richly varied, and detailed. I like the 20-bit mastered "Chinese Cafe" more than on my LP too and I don't often say that about piano songs. But after reading about "Speechless" for all these 20 years, and having only a 25 second preview (BBC's Top 12 programme), it's now arrived intact and (almost) unadorned. Like the TRAVELOGUE version of "Judgment of the Moon And Stars", I had to have it just for the one track. I don't have to have the entire Beatles' collection. Nor the entire Cowboy Junkies collection. I don't need the full-blown reissue of "THE LAST WALTZ" but other than that, I have all of Joni and James. All the best, Lama np: the future-proof "BLOOD ON THE TRACKS" (remastered 20-bit CD/SACD hybrid), today's addition, from the greatest living male songwriter of our generation. He's only second best without the gender qualifier though. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:57:12 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #538 - 3 CD set Now a question?... on the list he can get is ......'3 for 1' a Joni CD for $30..is this a best of Joni? Ash No, it' s Ladies of the Canyon, Blue and Clouds, I think. I've seen it here and there, may be a Euro-release. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:04:49 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Betty Buckley sings Amelia NJC Part of a review of Buckley's current cabaret act in NYC. The program is anchored in several ballads with lyrics by Alan and Marilyn Bergman, which Ms. Buckley turns into searching reflections on time and love. But the most revelatory moments in Tuesday's opening-night show were renditions of Joni Mitchell's great travel ballad "Amelia," Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah," and Billie Holiday's "Stormy Blues." "Amelia" was treated as a formal questioning poem addressed to the ghost of Amelia Earhart, in which the singer's demand for solutions to her problems only produces a series of "false alarms." Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:13:51 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Re: whatcha reading? NJC Kerry and Bob were saying : Kerry writes: << I'm learning lots of new words, like "bairn" and "Hogmanay." :> >> Well, "Hogmanay" is a new one for me, but "bairn" I know -- baby! Hogmanay is New Year's Eve. Les (Exiled Scot in London) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:28:57 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: October 31 1968: Joni began a four-night engagement at The Main Point in Bryn Mawr (a suburb of Philadelphia), playing two shows each night. Chris Smither is also on the bill. 1970: Matthews Southern Comfort topped the UK chart with their version of "Woodstock". 1976: Dressed as Art Nouveau, the character who graces the cover of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Joni hit the Halloween party scene. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=9 http://www.jonimitchell.com/ArtNouveau76.html 1985: Joni appeared on the U.S. "Good Morning America" TV program - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:28:57 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: October 31 On October 31 the following articles were published: 1968: "2 Folk Singers Slated At Point" - Main Line Times (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=858 1994: "Lady of The Canyon" - MacLean's (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=173 1998: "Few Nods To Nostalgia For Mitchell" - Ottawa Citizen (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=235 1998: "Folk icons continue to work without dwelling on past" - Ottawa Sun (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=239 2000: "For CD guru, masters are his domain" - Daily News of Los Angeles (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=675 2002: "Joni Mitchell" - Rolling Stone (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=935 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #539 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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