From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #482 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 24 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 482 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: new releases - njc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday!/Bad Journalism ["Christoph] Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Boy is my face red... [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] Re: Geffen Demos, out of the bag..... ["Christopher Treacy" ] Re: Fw: is sam shepard coyote? ["Kate Bennett" ] Hosl ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: WAS: Sept 23!!! njc, NOW: Making $$$ off the BF [Catherine McKay ] Re: Geffen Demos, out of the bag..... [Michael Paz ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC September 23rd [Michael Paz ] Re: new releases - njc [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: new releases - njc ["David Rahall" ] Re: Joni on A&E [vince ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC September 23rd [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Fw: is sam shepard coyote? -- NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] It's a Muller! -- NJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: It's a Muller! -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Fw: is sam shepard coyote? -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Boxed in [Bobsart48@aol.com] Fw: Garrin Benfield Southern Cal Dates Start(NJC) [Darice ] Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #478 ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Hosl ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: It's a Muller! -- NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] "IT's All Over Now Baby Blue? [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] september 24!!! njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:22:00 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! Chris wrote: << we've got WAAAAAAYYY too many fools writing both promotional blurbs and critical horseshit who simply haven't done their homework >> The I wrote: << At least they give Joni credit on her guitar work in "California" once in a while! >> Me again . . . Talk about not doing one's homework, "California" isn't the song Rolling Stone mentioned as being one of Joni's best examples of her guitar work, is it? I wonder if fact checkers still exist. That was the job the guy in "Bright Lights, Big City" had. I think. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:32:30 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: new releases - njc > please take note - one *disc* of previously unreleased material - *not* three > miserable tracks per boxset. Watch it roomie, you're starting to sound like ME! ;~) Listen to us, sinking our teeth in the hand of something we can't give up just yet... > np - rory block - the water is wide - omg this is one of > the most beautiful > things i have heard!!! And it looks like SHE'S got a new one out today too? A cd called "Last Fair Deal"? Bob NP: Emmylou, "Jupiter Rising" nice little funky number... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:35:20 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday!/Bad Journalism Precisely. It was actually an article in the Boston Phoenix on Tori Amos that set me off originally. The author said something like "Whether she's casually complaining about the service in a restaurant ("The Waitress")..... The waitress is about 2 co-workers, one who secretly wants to murder the other. There's no mention of service whatsoever. In the same piece it was stated that the songwriting on "Strange Little Girls" was lacking/weak and out of sync with Tori's usual M.O. - might that be because SLG is a covers album? And actually, the songwriting on SLG isn't really THAT far from Tori's usual bag. The clincher was when, while commenting on Tori's show in Providence, RI last fall, the genius-writer said something like "lead guitar was strangely inaudible" and eluded to some potential technical/mix problems. Tori was on tour with a bass/drums/keyboard ensemble. No lead guitar person on the stage AT ALL. I rest my case. And oddly enough (or perhaps an irony), the Phoenix has been particularly difficult to deal with as far as editing goes. They sit on one's work for weeks at a time and are rather clipped in their email responses...gone are the days when persistence is rewarded. - -Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! > Chris writes: > > << we've got WAAAAAAYYY too many fools writing both promotional blurbs and > critical horseshit who simply haven't done their homework >> > > At least they give Joni credit on her guitar work in "California" once in a > while! > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:51:55 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! In a message dated 9/23/2003 4:22:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Murphycopy writes: > "California" isn't the > song Rolling Stone mentioned as being one of Joni's best > examples of her guitar > work, is it? No, they chose "All I Want", which has as much guitar as "Fiddle & The Drum". Bob NP: Emmylou, "Cup Of Kindness" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:55:40 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Boy is my face red... Hi gang, Just a quick note (I hope this was obvious anyway): when someone mentioned admiring my and Mingus' fortitude, etc., and I made the seemingly callous remark that "we haven't heard much from him since '79", I obviously wasn't referring to *David* M., who just sent me a lovely note, I was referring to the great Charles M. And in retrospect, given the hell he went through, it was a callous remark in any context. Apologies to anyone who was offended. Maybe my new screen name shoulda been Bigf**kingfauxpas@aol.com. Must be the Irish in me -- speak before you think. love to all, walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:01:48 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: Geffen Demos, out of the bag..... The liner notes look like fun, actually, and the booklet is very nice, though mostly filled with familair images/graphics. What little I've read has made sense to me since I can hear JM's voice in my head, etc. I'm not sure how it will read to someone who isn't familair with how she thinks. Not sure where these 'rare photographs' are...but, each CD comes in it's own sleeve with the original cover art. My copies of all 4 releases have, up until now, been vinyl, so it's not SUCH an outrageous/useless purchase for me. Overall, it's an elegantly presented little box. But all it's really succeeded in doing is making me jones for a REAL box with shitloads of outakes and demos. Hejira/DJRD/Mingus demos....we know they're out there. Now THAT would be something. - -C - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ""Christopher Treacy"" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Geffen Demos, out of the bag..... > In a message dated 9/22/2003 4:20:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whizzboom@comcast.net writes: > > > Well, in a nutshell... > > Thanks for the review Chris...any take on the liner notes yet? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:04:29 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #478 In a message dated 9/22/03 12:01:11 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << Does anyone know of Joni covering any of Laura's songs and vice versa? I couldnt think of any. This question came up over dinner last night when Mrs. Brei and I were listening to Laura Nyro in San Francisco (thanks Uncle John!) >> Hey, Brei, Funny you should mention this -- I'm always looking for connections between my big four -- Joni, Laura, Bacharach and jimmy Webb. I've had no luck so far with any direct connections between Joni and Laura. (Joni and Bacharach via Grace of My Heart, Laura and Bacharach cuz she sang Walk On By and the almost totally unknown Be Aware, Laura, Bach and Jimmy Webb cuz the Fifth dimension sang hits by all three of them (!)-- but to my knowledge, never sang anything by Joni). Looking forward to hearing of other possible connections, hugs to you andth' wife, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:15:19 EDT From: SMC1254@aol.com Subject: Joni 's Geffen releases I wish Joni Mitchell would go ahead and write that damn autobiography. This is a nice packaged set - with a few demos - the best being Two Grey Rooms. But it is worth the price to read Ms. Mitchell's notes about many of the tracks - I laughed out loud a few times - and was rather stunned (again) with some insights and a few answered questions. She has such the gift for prose as well as the brilliant conversationalist, well known fact. Also a nice perspective comes into focus with the four disks. An odd capsule of sorts...since they are a foursome now. I hope Dog Eat Dog somehow, someday has its day in the sun - it is so good. I also picked up Rufus Wainwright's Want. I think he is a remarkable artist. I give him another A. And is anyone out there into Erykah Badu??? Her new World Wide Underground gets another A. Goose bumps from both. Brittany is next!!! Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:45:09 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: jmdl disease njc dang colin that is scary & i hope you have no more of that illness...i had a similar dream once that yours reminded me of...lots of people coming & going in my life that i guess were my internet communications manifesting in my dreams >This is very weird: Ashara and Kate were stood together and they were joined by a huge ring < busted! the true identity of the inner circle...JK! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:45:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Fw: is sam shepard coyote? you've convinced me detective wally! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:56:31 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Hosl Well, three more days and continuous play of this album leave me empty and I still don't get it. mack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:58:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: WAS: Sept 23!!! njc, NOW: Making $$$ off the BF --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Catherine writes: > > << I never cease to be amazed at Wally K's wonderful > way with language. >> > > Wally, the BF just gets better and better. I am > beginning to (almost) see a > cartoon creature every time the BF posts in > his/her/its very strong voice. > > Catherine also says: > > << I still think you should write a book featuring > the BF >> > > Or better yet, a cartoon series! It can be about the > misadventures of the BF > as the BF tries to wish people a HB! Wally, you're > gonna be a MILLIONAIRE!!! > (You don't see Matt Groening wondering where his > next steak -- or tofu -- is > coming from, do you?) > Yes! Exactly! I saw it as a sort of picture-book (but for adults, childish ones), but a cartoon series works just as well. The illustrations I can see in my head are similar to Ronald Searle's, if you know who I mean, but that's a mere technicality. Maybe they should be more like Edward Gorey's (if I've got the name right) or the guy that did the original Addams Family cartoons (was his name Addams by any chance? See, I'm old and I'm losing brain cells on a regular and scary basis.) Then Wally could become VERRRY rich and he could live wherever he wanted. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:26:35 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Musical shock njc On the radio around lunchtime today I heard a rather ennervating song, in a fairly trad soul style, sung by a woman who clearly had some powerful lungs, but was screeching more than singing. It just went on and on and I found myself wishing it would end. Apparently I wasn't the only one feeling this way: the presenter (Robert Elms) said as the record finished that someone had emailed him during the song and said "please stop playing that record!" I was frankly shocked when he then revealed that the singer was Aretha Franklin. Bejaysus! I don't expect her to sound like she did in 1967, but this was still a nasty surprise. Even the very greatest of singers isn't immune to the ravages of time, nicotine (erm, sorry to bring that up here, it's a bit of a sore point around these parts - but 'Ree has been a chain smoker for about as long as you-know-who) and whatever else. That isn't news, of course... Azeem in London NP: Catherine Porter - Out of this House ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:40:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! now njc --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > I wonder if fact checkers still exist. That was the > job the guy in "Bright > Lights, Big City" had. I think. > Feck no! Fact checkers? A frill! Who needs facts when you have factoids? The world is going to hell in a handbasket, I say! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:44:17 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Barbra Streisand Says She's Bored by Her Own Songs --NJC Here's an interesting bit of honesty from Barbra. I must say that I agree. Such a beautiful voice and such sappy choices for songs over the years. Sorry to Barbra fans. (I'd put on the flame-retardant suit, but I hear it's in South Carolina now doing birthday candle duty.) --Bob From << http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53794-2003Sep23?language=printer >> Barbra Streisand Says She's Bored by Her Own Songs Reuters Tuesday, September 23, 2003; 5:42 PM LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Barbra Streisand says she finds listening to her own songs is so boring that it was one of the reasons she gave up public performing three years ago. Streisand, 61, told Reader's Digest in an interview for its October edition that once she has recorded an album, she is so sick of the music that "I never listen to my records for maybe 10 years." "Really, I just get sick of it. That's why I gave up concerts -- in addition to having stage fright and the exertion of singing 30 songs a night. It's boring to sing your own songs," she said. Streisand bid farewell in September 2000 to her sell-out career as a public performer but she emerged last year to sing at a Hollywood fund-raiser for her friends in the Democratic Party. A new album, "The Movie Album" -- her 58th recording -- is due in stores in October. But Streisand told Reader's Digest she doubted whether she would embark on any more public concerts. "It's fun to create a show and direct it and conceive it -- except that you have to do it, you have to perform it. I never think of that until it's too late," she said. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:45:52 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! now njc Catherine writes: << The world is going to hell in a handbasket, I say! >> Gee, Catherine, I hope I am not as crusty and bitter when I get to be your age. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:50:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! now njc --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Catherine writes: > > << The world is going to hell in a handbasket, I > say! >> > > Gee, Catherine, I hope I am not as crusty and bitter > when I get to be your > age. > > --Bob Just wait a few minutes. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:03:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! --- Richard Flynn wrote: > ICE Magazine has this blurb about the box: > >... Otherwise, these masters have > never been touched." A > candid introductory note by Mitchell, her insightful > liner notes (where she > individually addresses 90% of the tracks) and rare > photos from the Dog Eat > Dog and Night Ride Home sessions - all housed within > an 88-page booklet - > fill out the collection. > http://www.icemagazine.com/cubes/cubes_198.shtm#joni This is likely the reason I might, eventually, at some point, after it goes on sale, yadayada, buy it. Or maybe Santa will bring it for Christmas. Oh yeah, I am Santa, aren't I? Dang! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:05:26 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: new releases - njc Also released today an 11 track recording by Elvis Costello chronicling his relationship with Diana Krall, and Rufus Wainright post recovery! For all those Elvis fans out there, he is on Late Night w/Dave tonight. Suze ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:13:19 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Geffen Demos, out of the bag..... Christopher- Thanks for the comments on the new Joni. I was at Tower this afternoon and held it my hot hands, but I resisted $38 for the time being as money is too tight to mention. It looks like a nice package tho. I can't wait to hear these new tracks and see and read the new stuff. I did have some nice presents waiting at home when I got here (slurp of a big martini thanks Steve I am still pending the wagon thanks to you and Bob). The new Dave Matthews with my buddies Brian, Brady, and Tony playing in the band. It's really a nice record, but dark in most places. Also thanks to Ron in South Africa for the new music from over that way. And I got a new Warren Zevon/ Jackson Browne Boot which is always nice. Ah new music!!!!! Best Paz NP- An' Another Thing-Dave Matthew's > Well, in a nutshell... > > It's "Two Grey Rooms" the dipthong mix, > and "Baby Blue" is almost exactly the same chord progression as NRH's title > track, but still pretty cool. One can easily see that there's absolutely no > way both tracks could've been included on the same release (they're almost > identical...it's amazing the way she 'joni-izes' it compared to, let's say, > Judy Collins' beautiful early 90's version...). > > "Good Friends" is the winner of the lot (I had a feeling). As the track ended, > I found myself saying aloud "They should've left these just the way they > were." Between this demo and the 3 piano/vocal tracks on Rock's Master Class > (1985), you can get a real feel for what could've been a stellar JM album. Oh > well, I guess we're lucky to even have those 4. > > The lyrics and phrasings on the GF demo are different - "Synchronized & Vital" > as opposed to "Synchronized Like Magic". I'll be rotating it heavy for a > while. > > -Chris > The liner notes look like fun, actually, and the booklet is very nice, though mostly filled with familair images/graphics. What little I've read has made sense to me since I can hear JM's voice in my head, etc. I'm not sure how it will read to someone who isn't familair with how she thinks. Not sure where these 'rare photographs' are...but, each CD comes in it's own sleeve with the original cover art. My copies of all 4 releases have, up until now, been vinyl, so it's not SUCH an outrageous/useless purchase for me. Overall, it's an elegantly presented little box. But all it's really succeeded in doing is making me jones for a REAL box with shitloads of outakes and demos. Hejira/DJRD/Mingus demos....we know they're out there. Now THAT would be something. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:09:31 -0400 From: Subject: Home studio I think I heard her in an interview saying DOG EAT DOG was her most expensive album ever. I think she said she ran up tons of billable studio time while reigning in Thomas Dolby. As an economy move, she built the studio, but of course, the Company never tried to push a Producer on her against her will again. Anyway, I think that was in the interview at THE WORLD CAFE so maybe it's already in the JMDL archive. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:18:57 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC September 23rd Package left today with a pile of music CD's I am passing on for your enjoyment and/or distribution for other hungry depraved music sluts like yourself. Added bonus a cd of CSNY called Early Demos. This includes 4 early demos of Woodstock. If I work at it you could do a Woodstock only covers cd. Enjoy Paz NP-Oh-Dave Matthews-Some Devil > > Inundated but always ready for more. And here's to your man Dave with his > first solo disc out tomorrow. I heard "Gravedigger" on the AOL radio tonight, > it's pretty fecking awesome. Can't wait to hear the whole thing. > > Thanks for everything bro - I bask in your coolness. > > Bob > > NP: The Exploited, "I Never Changed" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:26:13 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: jmdl disease njc Take more meds and feel better. The whole breast thing is your latent heterosexuality, trying to break on through to the other side. What an image? Can you paint that? Maybe crochet it? Anyways we will try to keep it to a low roar in here so you can get better. Paz NP-Up and Away-DM > The jmdl disease thing will become apparent: > > In the early hours of saturday, iwas teaken to hospital-again. I had > woken up feelign very nasueiois, soaked in sweat and in a great deal of > pain in my chest, shoulders andarms. John called the paramedics. It > turned out i knew on of the paramedics from dog club, which made me feel > more secure. anywa, i was immediately put on the ecg machine and taken > off to hospitla where i was out on oxygen and another ecg machine. all > my readings were normal. the consultant said i have definately gota > disc problem in my neck and that accoutns for the pian. a few hours > later i was released. However, that wasn't the end. I got sicker, > extreme nausea, more sweating, i felt like i was dying. By Sunday > morning John had called the doctore ebcause he said i was talking to the > JMDL and telling him to be quiet because you lot were all talkign at > once and i needed quiet to hear properly. I havenot been near the pc > till just now). I was clearly not on this planet. This is very weird: > Ashara and Kate were stood together and they were joined by a huge ring > that went thru their breasts. No one seemd to think this was odd, not > veen me, at the time. Anyway, it was not a temprature that caused this > bu dehydration. I had been drifiting in and out of sleep but could not > stay asleep because of all the jmdl chatter and when there wasn't any, i > seemd to be retracing our tour of France. Madness brough on by > dehydration is not funny-it felt awful and part of me was are somehting > wasn't right and made me rather scared. > Today is the first day I have started to feel okay agin but still crap. > I think i spoke with Lucy and some point but not sure when but am failry > sure i did and don't think juts think i did. > I had hundreds of mails when i logged on and have deleted them all-can't > deal with them. so if you are expecting an ansswwer you now know why you > ahven't andif anyne had a birthday, hope it was a good one. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:26:38 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: new releases - njc In a message dated 24/09/2003 00:06:44 GMT Daylight Time, suze_1@lycos.com writes: << Also released today an 11 track recording by Elvis Costello chronicling his relationship with Diana Krall >> I've heard and read interviews with Elvis C in the last few weeks; he always talks a good fight, I'll give him that. He's obviously a very bright man with views about everything, and he could talk the hind leg off a donkey. I've heard about half of the songs from the new album (ranging from the break up with Cair O'Riordan to the romance with Diana K), and I found them almost excruciating. Everything *sounded* in place: the tasteful playing, the intricate arrangements (written and scored by the man himself), the clever word-play, the artful melancholy. And I found myself completely unmoved by what I heard as painstakingly manufactured pastiches of the classic songwriters of the first half of the 20th century, most notably Cole Porter. There are those who've slated this album, saying they prefer his more bilious side. Well, I don't much like that either, and although he vehemently objected to the accusations of being anti-women, I still hear it in a lot of his songs. Personally, I'd like to hear something less *knowing*. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:33:48 -0400 From: "David Rahall" Subject: Re: new releases - njc I just ordered "North" by Elvis Costello and the dvd of "Love- The Forever Changes Concert" from Amazon. I'll probably end up buying the Joni box for the booklet, etc. and because I don't have WTRF on cd...what can I say, I'm a music junkie... David (R) P.S.-Happy Birthday to Bob Muller, obviously another music junkie. Aren't we all? I'll be 46 next May 6. I share my birthday with Sigmund Freud, George Clooney, Bob Seger and Tony Blair. (For the astrologically inclined, I'm a Taurus sun sign [of course] with Gemini rising, Moon in Sag, Venus in Aries, Mars in Pisces. And I'm sooo glad Mercury is no longer in retrograde.) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suze Cameron" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: new releases - njc > Also released today an 11 track recording by Elvis Costello chronicling his relationship with Diana Krall, and Rufus Wainright post recovery! > > For all those Elvis fans out there, he is on Late Night w/Dave tonight. > > Suze > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! > http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:30:41 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Joni on A&E Jerry, thanks for the info on the photos and your other comments - I had so much to do that night and stumbled on the Janis bio and was glued to the set - both bios were incredibly well crafted and a lot of great context and new (to me) info - if anyone ever gets the chance to see these (part of the Women Who Rock series) please watch them - these are far, far above the usual tv fare. Vince Jerry Notaro wrote: >On 9/22/03 9:19 PM, "vince" wrote: > > > >>Yeah and Joni was on A&E last Friday? Saturday? They did a bio on Janis >>(there is only one Janis and she is from Port Arthur Texas) and a bio on >>Mama Cass and lots of face time from Crosby and Nash saying Mama Cass >>put CSN together and sings on the first album and how Cass' was the >>place to hang out and several pictures of Joni with Cass and C and N all >>partying, nice pics. One pic I think Joni had a dulcimer but could >>be wrong. But the Joni pictures were happy smiley partying Joni. >> >> > >Those great photos were thanks to great Henry Diltz. When I went to see >Dream a Little Dream off Broadway there was a Henry Diltz photo exhibit >which had several wonderful shots of Joni. > > > >>Both bios were excellent. There was footage on both that I have never >>seen before and really intelligent insights for a change. If I arise >>from poverty, I shall buy those two cds from A&E. >> >> > >They sure were excellent. I was a big fan of both, who were closer in >culture than most people knew. > >Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:01:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC September 23rd Subject: Fw: is sam shepard coyote? -- NJC shouldn't this be joni content? well i will leave it as is...good sleuthing bob... i looked at the site & there is a song that sam wrote with dylan called brownsville girl in 1986 that has the line 'I don't have any regrets' coincidence? Here's someone who might be able to answer any Sam Shepard questions, Wally. The following is from "The Sam Shapard Web Site" at http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/theatre_dance/shepard/shepard.html ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:22:38 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: It's a Muller! -- NJC My niece just gave birth -- ON MULLER'S BIRTHDAY! Oy, I am cursed! It's a boy, weighing 8+ pounds and mother and baby are fine, so I guess we really are blessed. Except for the Muller birthday business. Damn! If she could have only held out another 3 hours . . . --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: It's a Muller! -- NJC --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > My niece just gave birth -- ON MULLER'S BIRTHDAY! > Oy, I am cursed! > > It's a boy, weighing 8+ pounds and mother and baby > are fine, so I guess we > really are blessed. Except for the Muller birthday > business. Damn! If she could > have only held out another 3 hours . . . > That's just God's way of poking you in the eye, Murphy! OMG - it's a boy too - I sure hope they don't call him BOB! Congratulations, Uncle Smurphy - I bet you can't wait to see the little guy, can you? ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fw: is sam shepard coyote? -- NJC --- Kate Bennett wrote: > shouldn't this be joni content? well i will leave it > as is...good sleuthing > bob... > > i looked at the site & there is a song that sam > wrote with dylan called > brownsville girl in 1986 that has the line 'I don't > have any regrets' > > coincidence? > Edith Piaf also said, "Je ne regrette rien". Hmm. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:35:17 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Darice Subject: Fw: Garrin Benfield Southern Cal Dates Start Please try and see Garrin....He is very talented (and quite a nice person). Darice Return-Path: Received: from affinity-3pmvlr ([207.36.18.54]) by watson.mail.atl.earthlink.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with ESMTP id 1a1Xay5Cz3Nl3qW0 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by affinity-3pmvlr with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:07:29 -0700 From: "garrin.com" To: Subject: Garrin Benfield Southern Cal Dates Start Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:07:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2003 00:07:29.0796 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8262C40:01C3822F] Hello Friends of Garrin Benfield, Begining Wednesday night (9/24), Garrin will begin the final leg of his West Coast Tour. If you know folks in the following towns, please tell them to come to the shows! If you happen to live somewhere along the route, we hope to see you! As always, check out www.garrin.com for more details and pretty pictures. Wednesday 9/24/03 7:30 pm Zoey's Main St @ Oak Ventura, CA Solo Acoustic with Raechel Sedacca Thursday 9/25/03 7pm House Concert Santa Barbara, CA Solo Acoustic with Nicola Gordon For reservations: (805) 687-2035 Friday 9/26/03 8pm Ojai Brew Pub 423 E. Ojai Ave. #101 Ojai, CA Solo Acoustic Saturday 9/27/03 8pm Hot Monkey Love 5960 El Cajon Blvd.San Diego, CA Solo Acoustic Sunday 09/28/03 6pm Westwood Brewing Co 1097 Glendon Blvd, Westwood CA Solo Acoustic as part of Acoustic Live- "Battle of the Bands/Songwriting Competition" Sunday 09/28/03 9:30pm Genghis Cohen 740 N. Fairfax Ave. Los Angeles, CA Solo Acoustic Garrin will be touring the East Coast in October. For details, check www.garrin.com A Note From garrin.com - -Thanks to all of you for sending friends out to the shows! We are growing fast but WE NEED YOUR HELP! We are building a community and everybody who likes the music and is into the scene is welcome. So, if you''ve got friends in one of these towns, send 'em out to the shows! - -A Suggestion.... Throw a party at the show! Invite your friends out for a night of good times, good music and good lovin'... If you need help, let us know and we'll pitch in! - -See ya at the show! garrin.com __________________________________________________________ Click on the link below to be removed from the mailing list http://www.garrin.com/maillist/mailing_list/remove.asp?ID=da316241461209408 Powered by Web Wiz Mailing List version 3.02 - http://www.webwizguide.info ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:36:30 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: Home studio Right, but I think NRH was the first home recording...CMIARS was done at Peter Gabriel's, right? - -C - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: Home studio > I think I heard her in an interview saying DOG EAT DOG was her most expensive album ever. > > I think she said she ran up tons of billable studio time while reigning in Thomas Dolby. As an economy move, she built the studio, but of course, the Company never tried to push a Producer on her against her will again. > > Anyway, I think that was in the interview at THE WORLD CAFE so maybe it's already in the JMDL archive. > > Lama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:45:58 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Boxed in Birthday Bob listed as unrecorded 20 Joni songs > Ballad In Blue > CARA'S CASTLE > DAISY SUMMER PIPER > Endless Summer > Free Darling > GEMINI TWIN > HERE TODAY, GONE TOMORROW > I WON'T CRY > JEREMY > Julie's Mom > Kelly > Lazy Summer > LOVE IS LIKE A BIG BRASS BAND > MIDNIGHT COWBOY SONG, THE > MIDSUMMER MORNING > MOON IN THE MIRROR > POOR SAD BABY > STRAW-FLOWER ME > What Will You Give Me > WHO HAS SEEN THE WIND > That's a big CD full - it is hard to imagine that these are all uncaptured on a live recording. Six of them (Jeremy, A Melody in Your Name, Moon in the Mirror, Poor Sad Baby, Straw-Flower Me and Who Has Seen the Wind) are in "Music of Joni Mitchell Song Book", published in 1969. How did you come to know that the others even exist ? Of the others, even though many are on Second Fret sets, I thought that if they stood alone (instead of side by side with recorded songs) they would make an interesting CD. And I would love to see a complete set list. Those that I have in one form or another (mostly that you sent me) include these 19 (not certain all are Joni's songs): Ballerina Valerie Blue on Blue Born to Take the Highway Brandy Eyes Carnival in Kenora Come to The Sunshine Dr. Junk Eastern Rain Go Tell the Drummer Man Hunter (The Good Samaritan) Just like Me London Bridge Mr. Blue My Favorite Color (Love) ????:(Hers ? Correct Title) Play Little David, Play The Gift of the Magi The Way it Is Winter lady Yarrow That would fill a CD - and I would enjoy having it as a stand-alone item - but you imply there are more. Could you list a few of the others when you have a chance? Best Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:04:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Darice Subject: Fw: Garrin Benfield Southern Cal Dates Start(NJC) Hi, all please go to see Garrin--when he's in your area. A friend of Richard Goldman's and a truly wonderful singer-songwriter. darice - -----Forwarded Message----- From: "garrin.com" Sent: Sep 23, 2003 5:07 PM To: darice@mindspring.com Subject: Garrin Benfield Southern Cal Dates Start Hello Friends of Garrin Benfield, Begining Wednesday night (9/24), Garrin will begin the final leg of his West Coast Tour. If you know folks in the following towns, please tell them to come to the shows! If you happen to live somewhere along the route, we hope to see you! As always, check out www.garrin.com for more details and pretty pictures. Wednesday 9/24/03 7:30 pm Zoey's Main St @ Oak Ventura, CA Solo Acoustic with Raechel Sedacca Thursday 9/25/03 7pm House Concert Santa Barbara, CA Solo Acoustic with Nicola Gordon For reservations: (805) 687-2035 Friday 9/26/03 8pm Ojai Brew Pub 423 E. Ojai Ave. #101 Ojai, CA Solo Acoustic Saturday 9/27/03 8pm Hot Monkey Love 5960 El Cajon Blvd.San Diego, CA Solo Acoustic Sunday 09/28/03 6pm Westwood Brewing Co 1097 Glendon Blvd, Westwood CA Solo Acoustic as part of Acoustic Live- "Battle of the Bands/Songwriting Competition" Sunday 09/28/03 9:30pm Genghis Cohen 740 N. Fairfax Ave. Los Angeles, CA Solo Acoustic Garrin will be touring the East Coast in October. For details, check www.garrin.com A Note From garrin.com - -Thanks to all of you for sending friends out to the shows! We are growing fast but WE NEED YOUR HELP! We are building a community and everybody who likes the music and is into the scene is welcome. So, if you''ve got friends in one of these towns, send 'em out to the shows! - -A Suggestion.... Throw a party at the show! Invite your friends out for a night of good times, good music and good lovin'... If you need help, let us know and we'll pitch in! - -See ya at the show! garrin.com __________________________________________________________ Click on the link below to be removed from the mailing list http://www.garrin.com/maillist/mailing_list/remove.asp?ID=da316241461209408 Powered by Web Wiz Mailing List version 3.02 - http://www.webwizguide.info ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:10:50 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC September 23rd > I think I am still behind the generosity you have shown me over the years. I > am listening to Some Devil again. So far I really love 3Stay or Leave2 (the > studio version and the live one next), 3Save Me2, 3An9 Another Thing2, 3Oh2, > and 3Gravedigger2 (the acoustic version), and I heard 3So damn Lucky2 the > other night on MTV and I loved that version. I feel like the Jimi recordings > of Joni (not to mention the hotel jam with her) are gonna surface soon, I can > just feel it. Oh the joy of NEW music (even if it9s old music)! > > Love > > Paz > > > Wow, they must have done Woodstock as often as JC did BSN or Nazareth recorded > TFT! > > Thanks dude - I'll make it up to ya swear ta Gawd. > > Bob > > NP: Elvis C, "When Green Eyes Turn Blue" (this is a beautiful record OMG!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:11:37 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: It's a Muller! -- NJC Blessings and curses their the same release... LMAO!!! Paz > My niece just gave birth -- ON MULLER'S BIRTHDAY! Oy, I am cursed! > > It's a boy, weighing 8+ pounds and mother and baby are fine, so I guess we > really are blessed. Except for the Muller birthday business. Damn! If she > could > have only held out another 3 hours . . . > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:10:47 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: "Complete Geffen Recordings", Due Tuesday! SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >> 1982's Wild Things Run Fast, which reflected her growing >> interest >> in jazz music; > I agree with this statement. Outside of 'Mingus' I think 'WTRF' is her jazziest album. 'Moon at the Window', 'Ladies Man', 'Be Cool', 'Solid Love', 'You Dream Flat Tires', 'Man to Man' - all sound pretty 'jazzy' to my ears. 'Mingus' was only partially Joni's project. She talked about being shoved into jazz and paddling around in water over her head. WTRF was getting back to *Joni's* music and yeah, she was still exploring jazz. AND WTRF IS NOT A COLLECTION OF HAPPY POPPY LOVE SONGS! Ok, rant mode off. Still feisty and contrary as ever, Mark somewhere in Washington State ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:17:32 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: It's a Muller! -- NJC In a message dated 9/23/03 9:30:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: > That's just God's way of poking you in the eye, > Murphy! OMG - it's a boy too - I sure hope they don't > call him BOB! Congratulations, Uncle Smurphy - I bet > you can't wait to see the little guy, can you? > or just maybe they will call him BRU-U-U-UCE!!! lmao congrats uncle smurfie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:21 -0400 From: "michael o'malley" Subject: PR blitz for the Mitch's Bday I am thinking we could be sending out little innocent emails to our favourite radio stations and such, to gently remind them of the significance of this upcoming November 7th. Perhaps we can engender some interesting Joni tribute radio segments and get some Joni tunes on the airwaves! Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:34:01 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #478 I've had no > luck so far with any direct connections between Joni and Laura. > (Joni and Bacharach via Grace of My Heart, Laura and Bacharach cuz > she sang Walk On By and the almost totally unknown Be Aware, Laura, > Bach and Jimmy Webb cuz the Fifth dimension sang hits by all three of > them (!)-- but to my knowledge, never sang anything by Joni). > > Looking forward to hearing of other possible connections, > Don't know if this counts or not, Walt, but on Barbra Streisand's 'Stoney End' album she performs the title track and also 'I Don't Know Where I Stand'. She also does 'Hands Off the Man (the Flim Flam Man)' and 'Time and Love' on that album. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:45:35 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Hosl Not even DITS? Harry's house? See Lama. Bree >Well, three more days and continuous play of this album leave me empty and >I >still don't get it. > >mack _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:12:58 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: It's a Muller! -- NJC Subject: september 24!!! njc the little old lady had chirped a cheery "hello, pumpkin!" (or words to that effect in dutch). the BDF, used to millennia upon millennia of mortals procumbent at the sight of its SPLENDOR and DIVINITY, had been rather disappointed at such a display of insolent insouciance. the BDF had shrieked and flapped its wings furiously and expectorated a few nasty-looking fur-balls (mixed with lettuce leaves and two or three bruschetti from the previous night's snake oil binge) but to no avail. the little old lady had tilted her blue-rinsed head and sweetly looked at the apparition before her quite as mary poppins would at a darling chimney sweeper. the BDF had exhibited its 12-inch fingernails, shape-shifted into imelda marcos, sung the entire turandot score in german, grown its terrifying multiple breasts, impersonated cher, lectured on lacanian psychoanalytical theory, recited passages from moby dick, ran its talons on screechy surfaces and shape-shifted into imelda marcos again. the little old lady had daintily yawned and offered IT a bonbon. the BDF was now at a loss! who was the formidable rival, this demon of demons, this petite brunnhilde that was not only able but also AMUSED to look HORROR and COSMIC ABNORMALITY straight in the face while humming a quaint (and maddeningly waltzy) folksong? had the time come for the MIGHTY SHRIEKING ONE to abdicate, to surrender, to discontinue its subscription to harper's bizarre and to donate its gossamer wings to a fundraising project for the crochet-knitting challenged? furthermore, the little old lady seemed to be getting BORED! then it dawns on IT. (fate is kind, mes enfants! even to CRUEL and DEPRAVED things like the ONE WHO SHRIEKS AND MUST NOT BE NAMED!) "OH BOY... THIS IS AMSTERDAM!", groans the one whose tea parties even gargoyles find in poor taste. slapping three of its foreheads, the BDF realizes that the little old lady must have next door neighbors that would make the BDF look like a snowdrop blossom in comparison. sighing, the BDF takes the bonbon and buys a postcard from the little old lady. H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y JOHN VAN TIEL!!!!!! (oh but behold how the BDF pinches five of the little old lady's peyote cookies!) (vengeful creature!) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #482 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)