From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #478 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, September 22 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 478 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: [NortheastJonifest] september 21!!! njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Arrr! Talk Like a Pirate Day -- NJC ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: September 21st!!! [Susan Guzzi ] September 20th: Marian (njc) [rholliston@HighSpeedPlus.com] darling feather in the breath of god? njc [cul heath ] njc mercury retro not? [cul heath ] John Ritter (NJC) [Steven Blue ] Re: september 21!!! njc ["kerry" ] Joni covers Laura [Brei Gross ] Leonard Cohen's Birthday njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Future-proof Dylan discs in stores, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Stevie agrees with Joni ["J.David Sapp" ] RE: Jim's story, NJC (was: Mags' Dave, NJC) [] RE: Jim's story, NJC (was: Mags' Dave, NJC) ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: stevie agrees with joni(ljc) [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] Cash..Joni..Niagara...oh Canada..NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Memorable Opening lines [PassScribe@aol.com] Songs to Aging Children Come [PassScribe@aol.com] Giving Bob Dylan his due, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] King of Pain Checks In, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: darling feather in the breath of god? njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: last lines [Susan Guzzi ] Today in History: September 22 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: September 22 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: Songs to Aging Children Come ["Paul Castle" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:39:07 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] september 21!!! njc Happy Birthday Marian!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:35:16 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Arrr! Talk Like a Pirate Day -- NJC Talk like a pirate. Walk like an egyptian. [Sing like a blackbird. Cook like a woman. Gotta gotta do it. Oooh.] Cuss like a sailor. Sweat like a hooker. Hover [like a dragonfly on a tomb.] Run like a... coward. Creep like a cat. Drink like a [barefoot girl sittin' on the hood of a Dodge]. Lie like a m*ther-f#cker. Bark like a dog. Strip like Claudia Schiffer on a foggy Malibu beach in a June morning rain at 83 degrees wearing a white peasant dress, size 6, and a straw hat. [Look like she had no where to go. So I gave her a pass so she could get in and see the show.] Drive like a madman. Feel like.... an idiot. Spit like a Lama. Hurl like a freshman. Smile like Mona Lisa. Shoot like... Charlie Parker. Grin like a damn fool. Throw like a girl. Fight like a schoolboy. Kill like a zealot. But in the end, you must die like a man. Lama "He came out swinging! Like Woody Herman! Awww, he came out swinging! Like Sonny Liston!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:38:30 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: september 20!!! njc (for AOL members) - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Wally Kairuz" Para: "JMDL" ; ; Enviado: domingo, 21 de septiembre de 2003 7:14 Asunto: september 20!!! njc > chiaroscuro woman heather (who was born on the verge of the libra sun and > was thus blessed with venusian dimples when she smiles) had a birthday > yesterday. the BDF is nowhere to be found and i am SO very upset because > HORRID SPRING IS almost HERE (aaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghh) that i forgot my duties > as human underling of the very splendid ONE. > > will you ever forgive me, darling heather, darling feather in the breath of > god? > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HEATHER!!!! > > love, > wally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:39:27 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: september 21!!! njc (for AOL members) - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Wally Kairuz" Para: "JMDL" ; Enviado: domingo, 21 de septiembre de 2003 7:18 Asunto: september 21!!! njc > for this one i'm kind of like in time... > > IT IS MARIAN'S BIRTHDAY! > > and it is spring day (gag gag gag) > > (so i'll concentrate on marian's birthday instead) > > marian, you'll always be the one who stunned me with your rendition of > lindsey. oh but to have your musicianship and FINGERS! > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR FRIEND! > > wally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:40:12 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Fw: yiiiippeeee (NJC) (for AOL members) - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Wally Kairuz" Para: Enviado: domingo, 21 de septiembre de 2003 7:22 Asunto: yiiiippeeee (NJC) > mercury has just turned direct! > you can all exhale now. > wally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:38:05 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Second (and last) call for Springsteen ticket (NJC) Mary, you might want to go to backstreets.com. They have a ticket exchange forum. Good luck, you may also sell it the night of the show. enjoy! rosie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 04:32:39 -0400 From: "Marian Russell " Subject: Re: september 21!!! njc Dear dear wally! Thank you so much for remembering my birthday and for your lovely message! It really brightened up my day to hear from you. I hope all is well in your life. Winter is still a month or two away up here. If you get fed up with the warmer weather there, just come and visit me, okay? Much love, Marian - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Wally Kairuz" Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:18:15 -0300 >for this one i'm kind of like in time... > >IT IS MARIAN'S BIRTHDAY! > >and it is spring day (gag gag gag) > >(so i'll concentrate on marian's birthday instead) > >marian, you'll always be the one who stunned me with your rendition of >lindsey. oh but to have your musicianship and FINGERS! > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR FRIEND! > >wally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 01:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: September 21st!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARIAN!!!! Have the best day ever and be at fest next year lady - we missed ya!!! Peace, Susan Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:20:10 -0700 From: rholliston@HighSpeedPlus.com Subject: September 20th: Marian (njc) This post should really not have been labelled NJC. Marian plays and sings Joni's songs so well and so beautifully that any reference to her always has Joni content. As a musician - guitarist, singer, and writer - Marian is without peer. As a friend - and I consider and love her as one - Marian is simply sui generis: one of a kind. As my pal Susan Guzzi said, you were missed this year, Marian. Vienna is wonderful, but you know as well as I do that Oliviera is just as wonderful in its own way, especially when it's taken over by Joni fans. Happy Birthday, Marian! May you have many, many more, and may you be with us next year at Jonifest. (I promise not only to play some Chopin or Debussy for you, I'll even give you a glass of the best Burgundy I can find ;-) Much, much love to you, Marian, and many, many hugs from your pal Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:36:58 -0700 From: cul heath Subject: darling feather in the breath of god? njc hahahahahaha for some reason Wally, with that line and its insistence on nearly (good naturedly) mocking the sound of Heather (happy belated Heather :)), you just reminded me of young and lean Peter OTool, a bit drunk and a lot naughty and rolling across the chaise to rest chin on back of of clasped hands to stage blond curls all aflop and large blue eyes offering two deliberate blinks to signal question and attentive waiting for reply then ...flitting across the familiar landmarks of what would be Heather's face searching, like a puppy for forgiveness... how do you do that? :) cul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:00:17 -0700 From: cul heath Subject: njc mercury retro not? mercury has just turned direct! you can all exhale now.wally ah so that's what it was! we were all living under a poisoned penning... and here I thought all those poor people were just being stubborn not getting themselves some money somewhere... silly me... damn! now how does one unloose the hounds?.... without losing face with the help I mean? will this affect my dance card in any significant manner? Nurse! Would you be a dear and explain to the rest of your ilk that due to a change in the nature of Mercury's apparent motion, that the hounds can be returned to kennel and returned to their normal diet...oh and ...could you please send a goodwill bonbon to a poor person somewhere with my best wishes? Yes, Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 06:45:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Blue Subject: John Ritter (NJC) I wanted to share a few thoughts about the death of John Ritter. I am presently in Europe leaving Bosnia and Germany en route back to NY and learned of the death of John. I was stunned that in all of the 9/11 stories and my involvement in a part vacation and business trip that I found I completely missed the story. Somewhere in college between Joni, football, boning up for exams, and studying psyc, there was room for a few beers, fries, laughs and yea I think we can all admit it, three`4s company. Lately, I did John s few thoughts about his TV role trying to raise two teenage daughters while watching my own blast out the door. I4ll miss John Ritter. Before or after Joni, lovin, taking in the day, every now and then John and the girls if not for Don Knotts later, did bring a smile if not a laugh. Steve Steven A. Blue Atoll Law Enforcement APO AP 96558 Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:24:08 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Re: september 21!!! njc Happy birthday, Marian! You were definitely missed at Jonifest. I will always treasure the songs you co-wrote with Hell. I still cry when I listen to them! (And that's a good thing...;>) Take care, Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Brei Gross Subject: Joni covers Laura Does anyone know of Joni covering any of Laura's songs and vice versa? I couldnt think of any. This question came up over dinner last night when Mrs. Brei and I were listening to Laura Nyro in San Francisco (thanks Uncle John!) Welcome to all the new people on the list, it's been great hearing your voices and I encourage you to keep talking. That's what makes this community so special. What I would really like to see happen is for the lurkers to come out and play too and if there happens to be a Jonifest or some smaller gathering of jmdlers near you, I would urge you to join it. Who knows where the time goes ;-) ... life is too short . Brei aka mister mags ;-) np: zen mags' yoga cd from her yoga workshop at fest :-)) Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:33:41 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Leonard Cohen's Birthday njc Happy Birthday Mr. Leonard, and thank you for this, The Stranger song... > It's true that all the men you knew were dealers > who said they were through with dealing > every time you gave them shelter. > I know that kind of man. > It's hard to hold the hand of anyone > who is reaching for the sky just to surrender. . And then sweeping up the > jokers that he left behind > you find he did not leave you very much, > not even laughter. > Like any dealer he was watching for the card > that is so high and wild > he'll never need to deal another. > He was just some Joseph looking for a manger. Leaning on your window sill > he'll say one day you caused his will > to weaken with your love, your warmth and your shelter. > And then taking from his wallet > an old schedule of trains, he'll say, > I told you when I came I was a stranger. Ah, but now another stranger seems > to want you to ignore his dreams, > as though they were the burden of some other. > You've seen that man before, > his golden arm dispatching cards, > but now it's rusted from the elbow to the finger. > And he wants to trade the game he plays for shelter. > Yes, he wants to trade the song he sings for shelter. Well, you hate to > watch another tired man > lay down his hand, > like he was giving up the Holy Game of Poker. > And while he talks his dreams to sleep, > you notice there's a highway > that is curling up like smoke above his shoulder. > And now suddenly you look a little older. > Suddenly you feel a little older. You tell him to come in, sit down, > but something makes you turn around. > The door is open. You cannot close your shelter. > You try the handle of the road. > It opens. Do not be afraid. > It's you my love, it`s you who are the stranger. I've been waiting, I was > sure > we'd meet between the trains we're waiting for, > I think it's time to board another. > Please understand I never had a secret chart > to get me to the heart of this, > or any other matter. > He talks like this, > you don't know what he's after. Let's meet tomorrow if you choose, > upon the shore, beneath the bridge, > that they are building on some endless river. > Then he leaves the platform > for the sleeping car that's warm, > you realize, he's only advertising one more shelter. > And it comes to you, he never was a stranger. > And you say, "Ok, the bridge, or someplace later." And then sweeping up the > jokers that he left behind > you find he did not leave you very much, > not even laughter. > Like any dealer he was watching for the card > that is so high and wild > he'll never need to deal another. > He was just some Joseph looking for a manger. Leaning on your window sill > he'll say one day you caused his will > to weaken with your love, your warmth and your shelter. > And then taking from his wallet > an old schedule of trains, he'll say, > I told you when I came I was a stranger. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:27:49 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Future-proof Dylan discs in stores, njc Bob Dylan's DESIRE on SACD/CD - --------- I listened to the CD layer of Bob Dylan's DESIRE on SACD/CD three times already. This is one of my all-time, top 20, desert island discs. If I had to pick only one Dylan album, I'd pick DESIRE over BLOOD ON THE TRACKS because of the music. I love the stories. I love the interplay between Rob Stoner on bass and Howard Wyeth on drums (almost no hi-hat on this disc). Most of all, I love the symbiosis among Scarlet Rivera's gypsy violin, Dylan's scratchy directness, and Emmylou's hi-lonesome cry. That said, you can't make a sonic silk purse from a multi-track, rock-n-roll, sow's ear. Sonics ain't everything and Bob Dylan's DESIRE is a *stone-perfect* example. Lama Lama said, > Today I bought a future-proof copy of Bob Dylan's "Desire" in a local store for $14.99 USD plus local sales tax. They had an old-stock, CD-only version of the same title for $11.99. (The store was Best Buy.)> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:51:35 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Re: First lines sorry i couldn't resist: "Kiss my ass!" I said peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:55:54 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Re: Stevie agrees with Joni Suze - so the interview and Joni appear live on the dvd? peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:39:43 -0500 From: Subject: RE: Jim's story, NJC (was: Mags' Dave, NJC) Jim: Despite Billy Joel's admonition, sounds like a song to me. Mary. "This group will appreciate this although it's a tiny fragment of a story. Mingus said, >Mags, I've planted a Plumeria (Frangipani) tree for David (and you) in the yard. Their blooms are used to make "leis" in Hawaii to say "Welcome to Our Home."> My father told me that he recently visited the house we owned 43 years ago. He said, "It's been painted since we had it, of course." "Of course. Many times." "They replaced the windows....... But the apple tree is still there and that was..... The apple tree..." "That crab apple tree in the middle of the front yard? It's still there?" "Yeah." "How's it? It's strong? I remember when you planted that. What's the deal with the apple tree, Dad?" "It was our first house... and Christine was a baby.... and... My mother gave us the apple tree as a housewarming present. ...." "...." "...." "Wow," I said. My father said, "...." "So.... now.... she been gone for a long time.... The house belongs to someone else.... The marriage is long gone.... but her tree is still there." My father swallowed. "Yeah." "...." "...." All the best, Lama now playing in my head: Billy Joel suggesting, "Leave a tender moment alone." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:53:57 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Jim's story, NJC (was: Mags' Dave, NJC) I make pictures. Kate could do it It's a bit related to "Making Pies". Lama From: blckcrow@chorus.net [mailto:blckcrow@chorus.net] Despite Billy Joel's admonition, sounds like a song to me. Mary. Lama said, "It was our first house... and Christine was a baby.... and... My mother gave us the apple tree as a housewarming present. ...." My father said, "...." Lama said, "So.... now.... she been gone for a long time.... The house belongs to someone else.... The marriage is long gone.... but her tree is still there." My father swallowed. "Yeah." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:23:10 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: Stevie agrees with Joni Sorry to confuse! A printed copy of the interview apprears on the disc, not a recorded interview with Joni personally, although that would be cool. David wrote: >Suze - so the interview and Joni appear live on the dvd? Suze, n.p., radio station that I am trying to win REM tickets from! ____________________________________________________________ Diabetics: Click here for a Free Glucose Meter from Access Diabetic. http://r.hotbot.com/r/lmt_ad/http://mocda4.com/1/c/563632/102938/302214/302214 This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:03:02 EDT From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: Re: stevie agrees with joni(ljc) In a message dated 9/21/03 2:00:51 AM EST, les@jmdl.com writes: << Sometimes I think Joni is too open and honest for her own good. >> forgive me, in my humble opinion, that is an oxymoron. the truth, a lie, what is not even said can be used against us. if i'm going to be slandered or even disliked, i want it to be for the truth. I'd love to say that i have nothing but disdain for madonna, for instance, but the truth is, she does what she says she's going to do, what she wants to do and she makes it work for her. one of the things i love most about joni is her utter honesty, it makes her who she is...wonderful. peace Noel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:44:31 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Cash..Joni..Niagara...oh Canada..NJC Thanks Cindy for linking the article on J. Cash. My nephew, Scott, is a sound and lighting guy and a few years ago did a show for him.. I believe in Las Vegas. Scott said he was so down to earth...just a really pleasant and cool guy. Returned from Niagara Falls yesterday early and while there I heard our Joni.. late night while eating ..Free Man In Paris My family of five.. all at about the same time said.. JONI....there's your Joni. It was really cute...oh and they wondered if I would report this to the list. But of course..I said. Two songs later...it was CSNY...Woodstock. Yeah!! Oh Canada: I found the service in Canada really lacking and the food....not so good. Maybe it's just the part we were in....touristy. ANd considering how I have just been in a tiny fraction.. I'm sure it is not indicative of the entire country. (I do like AH Caramel...best snack cake I've ever eaten. Yummy!) Now all you Canadians don't start yelling at me...ALL MY FAVORITE PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD COME FROM CANADA>....JONI>>>>JONI>>>>> and Diana Krall....Neil Young....Jim Carrey...Mike Myers....Catherine.....many..many others... Bree _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:52:55 EDT From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Thanks, Jimmy 'n' Ed... In a message dated 9/20/03 2:38:19 PM, FMY FL writes: << Big Walt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I LOVE YOU, and you keep on fighting boy. If Mingus can do it, so can you!!!!!!! I miss you sweetie! >> Thanks, guys -- i hope to fare even *better* than Mingus, who seems to have had little to say since 1979. (weak joke) By the way, I *was* hoping to snag the name "LittleBreen" for my new joni-only screen name, but it was taken (sheesh, by WHOM, for god's sake?), so I shall now and hereafter be known as: JustaLittleBreen@aol.com Thanks to Jimmy and Ed and all of you for the wishes of wellness, and I'll be back with offers of the complete annotated version of my dada-esque play "Joni Noodles", a small part of which was performed feverishly on my part, and brilliantly on Susan Guzzi's part, on Friday night of Jonifest. Keep tuned to this station for updates (oh, and please make note of the new screenname/address). best to all JustALittleBreen (Walt, that is) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:05:55 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: last lines Here are some of my fave last lines from 70s-era Joni music: I said, oh you're a mean old daddy, but you're out of sight There is your song from me Only a phase, these dark cafe days Hands alike Magnet and iron The souls And the moon swept down black water Like an empty spotlight You know the times you impress me most Are the times when you don't try When you don't even try Strike every chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories Conceal We love our lovin' But not like we love our freedom Caught in my struggle for higher achievements And my search for love That don't seem to cease Oh, sour grapes Because I lost my heart You're mean when you're loaded I was raised on robbery Laughing it all away, --Bob, who really needs to get back to unpacking . . . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:34:58 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: poetry in prose njc >I realized recently that I am finding a lot more "poetry" in prose< i agree, that is what i loved so much about the book 'divine secrets of the ya ya sisterhood'... as opposed to the movie which as is the nature of film, unable to capture any of that ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:57:24 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Memorable Opening lines I didn't see this being covered recently (I've been busy, as usual... must have missed it!) I think most Joni openings are attention-getting; please forgive me if I repeat something someone already contributed. But there's always my favorite opening lines: "Everything comes and goes Marked by lovers and styles of clothes" Oh, what a prophet Joni was/is! And then there's: "Love came to my door, with a sleeping roll, and a madman's soul" "Yesterday, a child came out to wonder Caught a dragonfly inside a jar" "I heard it in the wind last night, it sounded like applause" And someone MUST have already written in "No regrets, Coyote, we just come from such different sets of circumstances" And, probably the most famous of all, "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot" Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:57:25 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Songs to Aging Children Come Hey, Thanksgiving is fast approaching so I hope all you Joniphiles will get out your (or rent) videotapes or DVD's of Arlo Gutherie's "ALICE'S RESTAURANT" and watch it (that's a long-time tradition at OUR house) if only to see the poignant scene at the cemetary with Joni singing "Songs To Aging Children Come." It happens to be a good movie; add an extra star if you were there, in reality or in spirit! ;-) Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:18:07 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Giving Bob Dylan his due, njc I always say Joni's lyrics put her in a class of two among singer-songwriters of her generation. I leave the second lyricists unnamed so everyone can see their own hero in there. For me, the other is Bob Dylan. Whether or not writing a song to memorialize a mobster is a good thing, I always admire these lines in "Joey" about the day he was shot to death: "One day they blew him down in a clam bar in New York. He could see 'it' coming through the door as he lifted up his fork. He pushed the table over to protect his family, and staggered out into the Streets of Little Italy. Someday if God's in heaven overlooking his preserve, I know the men [who] shot him down will get what they deser-r-r-r-r-rve." Nicely done, Bob. I'm proud to say your lyrics put you in a class of two among singer-songwriters of your generation. Lama np: DESIRE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:07:04 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: H&O (njc) Bruce wrote: They do a cover of Gregg Alexander's (New > Radicals) Someday We'll Know on their latest album, which I would like to > get. Absolutely infectious song. Great pop music, I feel, isn't given the > consideration it deserves much of the time. - --------You are right on Bruce. Pop music is underrated. I have been picked on by friends and lovers over the years about my choice of and attraction for pop music. Have been accused of only liking 'pretty' and melodic music. Hey, I love melodic music. The tune you wrote of is a great take also and that album is a very good one. Pick it up. You won' t be disappointed. It didn't quite equal, in my opinion, their last three but is a fine effort. I suggest you try to find a copy of 'change of season' for a truly beautiful experience with introspective, melodic, melancholy, and mind bending music. I contend it is a rare skill indeed. - --------Precisely and beautifully stated Bruce. mack np: our joan-hissing of summer lawns. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:11:07 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: King of Pain Checks In, njc Hello JMDLers. I am the King of Pain with some advice on financial worries. Don't. Here are 5 healthy habits that will help you to *think* about money instead of *worrying about money from a Roper survey about happiness and money, from today's paper. 1. "Balance your checkbook. It may seem like quaint advice, but it's not. My research show that people who balance their checkbooks monthly are happier - perhaps because they don't worry that the next check they write will bounce. Or maybe seeing that figure on the bottom line curbs the impulse to spend. 2. Save 5% of what you make. Financial planners often say it's important to save at least 10% of earnings. In reality, you just need to cross the 5% threshold to see a significant boost in happiness. Once you've shown yourself you can save 5%, you'll find it easier to save more. 3. Make a will. Americans (meaning USA citizens- sorry!) have made progress in writing wills. The last big piece of research to measure how many people *don't* have wills put the number at 70%, according to Consumer Reports. My research shows it has dropped to 57%. That's still not enough, especially because having a will results in less financial worry in the long run. 4. Give to charity. Whether you write checks to your favorite cause, volunteer your time or give away your no-longer-useful belongings, the act of giving is good not just for your beneficiary, but also for you. Why? It makes you *happier*. 5. Talk to your spouse/partner about what you plan to charge (on credit). One of the hot-test buttons you can push in a marriage is borrowing money without a spouse's knowledge, my research shows. Many people don't realize it, but that's precisely what you're doing each time you charge on a credit card." King of Pain My philosophy is that Joni Mitchell fans are more familiar with depression than the public at large. I hope that someone will find ideas for *new* habits that can help to manage depression. They are presented in memory of our own Andrea Erchak of Saratoga Springs, New York, USA who lost her battle with depression this year. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:21:45 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: darling feather in the breath of god? njc oh it takes a little decadence and a little shrieking here and there, but i think you can manage it too, culluv ;-) wally > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de cul > heath > Enviado el: Domingo, 21 de Septiembre de 2003 06:37 a.m. > Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: darling feather in the breath of god? njc > > how do you do that? > > :) cul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:03:21 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: last lines Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching Shades of Scarlet conquering she says, 'A woman must have everything' Some get nothing though there's plenty to spare My dreams with the seagulls fly Out of reach, out of cry I know that I miss you but I don't know where I stand He will come a few times more Til he finds a lady statue standing in her door It all comes down to you Trouble child, breaking like the waves at Malibu Who left her long black hair in our bathtub drain? But then absurdity came over me And I longed to lose control And all I ever wanted Was to come in from the cold No mercy, sweet Jesus, no mercy from turbulent indigo You make everything I dread and everything I fear come true Hoochie-coochie, Auntie Ruthie would have died If she knew we were on the inside Not one red eye around her lonely little grave Said 'He was out of line girl. You were not to blame' With a view Only when you walk by Below my window Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:05:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: last lines Here are my favorite finales: You know the times you impress me the most, are the times when you don't try - when you don't even try guesses based on what each set of times and change is touching and the moon swept down black water like an empty spotlight Just a few of so many last lines, after having been tempted by the opening lines - and not to mention all those creamy filled centers. Peace, Susan Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: Here are some of my fave last lines from 70s-era Joni music: I said, oh you're a mean old daddy, but you're out of sight There is your song from me Only a phase, these dark cafe days Hands alike Magnet and iron The souls And the moon swept down black water Like an empty spotlight You know the times you impress me most Are the times when you don't try When you don't even try Strike every chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories Conceal We love our lovin' But not like we love our freedom Caught in my struggle for higher achievements And my search for love That don't seem to cease Oh, sour grapes Because I lost my heart You're mean when you're loaded I was raised on robbery Laughing it all away, - --Bob, who really needs to get back to unpacking . . . Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:01:23 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: September 22 1985: Joni performed solo at the first annual Farm Aid concert to benefit small farmers in the U.S. Other performers included Willie Nelson, Neil Young, Bob Dylan and Tom Petty. More info: More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/FarmAid85.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:01:23 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 22 On September 22 the following article was published: 1994: "It's time to pay that debt to Joni Mitchell" - San Diego Union-Tribune (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=320 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:15:13 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Songs to Aging Children Come Kenny B wrote (re Alice's Restaurant) > the poignant scene at the cemetary with Joni singing > "Songs To Aging Children Come." I believe Tigger Outlaw sang it in the film - (wonder what ever happened to her?). Strangely enough I was just reading this interview with Gene Shay yesterday http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=945 > JM: Well, they wanted the song -- they wanted me to write a > song first with one week's notice, but I couldn't -- you know, > I just couldn't do it. And I had a song that is fine, I think, called > -- I'm supposed to sing at a hippie funeral in the movie and > sort of a little wakey thing. Well, rather than writing a funeral > song, I have a song that sort of touches briefly on death. Do > you remember "Songs to Aging Children Come"? > GS: Mm-hmm. > JM: And there's a line that goes: "Some come dark and strange > like ..." -- referring to songs -- "some come dark and strange like > dying / crows and ravens whistling / lines of weeping, strings of > crying / so much said in listening / songs to aging children come / > aging children, I am one / does the moon play only silver when it > strums the galaxy? / dying roses, will they will their perfumed > rhapsodies to me? / songs to aging children come ..." > So I wanted to do that but what they wanted to do, they wanted > 50 percent of the song or something like that so Elliott hit the roof. > GS: Is that so they can put it on an album? Of the songs of the movie? > Or, I mean, is that part of the package? > JM: So they're saying, well, either give us 50 percent of the song or > you can't do the movie. Well, I'd rather not do the movie. > GS: Yeah, after all, it's 100 percent your song. > JM: Yeah. 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