From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #467 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, September 15 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 467 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC Re: lets sing out... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Literacy?????? NJC ["mike pritchard" ] 2001 Hommage Video [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: NJC Re: okay guys ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Beach Boys (SJC) ["David Rahall" ] Re: In Other Words (long) ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: sweet 16 take 2 and lets sing out Now with full JC ["Lama, Jim L'Homm] Mermaid Cafe ["Larry D." ] Re: Mermaid Cafe [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Fw: njc - jmdl recommendations-Blue Man Group [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Joni opening lines ["Linda Crawford" ] LOL! Barbie listens to Joni too! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Numbers of Joni albums sold...? ["Fraser Morel" ] Re: the carpenters and todd haynes' 'superstar'NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Mermaid Cafe ["StephenToogood" ] Eric Andersen, Garth and Maude Hudson and "The Festival Train" - vljc and loooong [Catherine McKay ] A slightly altered news story... ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Mermaid Cafe ["kakki" ] Today in History: September 15 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Today's Library Links: September 15 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Re: Mermaid Cafe ["StephenToogood" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 07:27:12 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: lets sing out... Boy....ummm...that's a tough one...hell if I know. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 14:30:11 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Literacy?????? NJC I sent the paragraph to a German friend of mine and she sent the following reply. >>Well, that was really interesting and fun. In fact, at the end of the sixties, beginning of the seventies, in German schools (at least in North Rhine-Westphalia) they tried out a new method to teach children to read, based on precisely this theory, that we do not read words letter by letter, but that we perceive the word as a whole. I was one of those "guinea-pigs", which means that in primary school I was never taught individual letters, but had to memorize the "way of looking", the "appearance" of whole written words. It was called "Ganzheitsmethode". They used it only for a couple of years, I don't know if it was for its bad results or for another reason.<< mike in barcelona ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:45:57 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: 2001 Hommage Video I FINALLY got around to watching the rest of this video last night. Unfortunately, my VCR/DVD player is in my bedroom, so when I stretch out to watch a video or DVD, it's usually at night and it usually doesn't take me very long to go Zzzzzzzz... Anyway, this video was a REAL treat, and thanks to Ashara for making this available to us, and for snagging it in the first place. I know why it was such a special night for those of you who were there. The first part was OK, but when Joni herself shows up and does her interview, and then plays the piano (!!) and then practically performs a T'log concert it's enthralling. I loved the interview, although Joni does tend to fall into the same responses, but that's to expected as she's asked the same questions over and over. The piano section was spectacular. Watching her just sit down and spontaneously chord out some passages and hearing some of those "Joni-esque" chord sequences and notes...wow, very cool. For her to not be composing and recording some of this stuff seems like such a waste as she is such a unique talent on the keyboard. As for the T'log performances, I have to say that I enjoyed most of these better than the ones on the CD because with Joni playing the music tracks on a boombox and singing live into a separate mic, her voice was more out front & she wasn't doing battle with these overwrought arrangements and orchestral sections. Plus her vocals sound freer, she throws in some scat and improv, and you can see her get into the vocal. Very cool. Also, she does some of "Coyote", enough to see why it wasn't included in T'log. I don't think it worked AT ALL, the orchestra sucks all the rhythm and spunky fun right out of it. Joni, you got it PERFECT the first time. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear what others think of the video. Bob NP: James Cotton, "Fire Down Under The Hill" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 07:07:34 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC Re: okay guys Mack wrote: > I have found that there could be more editing of posts as it is very > difficult to know who is saying what and many posts aren't trimmed at > all. As a newbie, I was reminded of this quite a few times but > haven't seen it mentioned in a while. We seem to have gotten away from prefacing quotes with "Mack said:" or the like. I've been guilty of this myself. Especially for new folks, I think this helps to understand the flow of conversation. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:16:00 -0400 From: "David Rahall" Subject: Re: Beach Boys (SJC) Fellow Beach Boys fans on the Joni list: "Friends" is so great! I believe I read somewhere it's Brian's personal favorite. The two-fer "Friends/20/20" is such a great listen and a great buy- I bought most of those two-fers. I guess you guys have seen "An All-Star Tribute To Brian Wilson" which includes an incredible version of "Surf's Up" sung by David Crosby, Vince Gill and Jimmy Webb, as well as "In My Room" by David Crosby, Carly Simon and Jimmy Webb, and "Surfer Girl" by Paul Simon. This dvd is a must have. I also *highly* recommend both the dvd and the soundtrack titled "Endless Harmony." And the dvd of their 1980 concert at Knebworth, England called "Good Timin'." You can't go wrong with these if you're a Beach Boys fan. Makes sense that Brian would love Joni, as they are both thought of as musical geniuses, but I had never heard that about Brian being obsessed with "Blue"! Very cool. I would love to hear Joni perform some of Brian's songs Joni-style. I bet he would, too. David R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sadowski" To: Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: Beach Boys (SJC) > Yes, the Holland CD does include the "Mt. Vernon and Fairway" material > that originally appeared as a bonus 7" with the LP. > > I've read that Brian Wilson is working on a new album that may > incorporate some material he wrote along with Andy Paley in the late > 90s. I agree about the production work on Imagination... a little too > "adult contemporary" for my taste, maybe this is one reason he ditched > producer Joe Thomas. > > Interestingly, the same friend who first turned me on to Joni Mitchell ( > I think it was Ladies of the Canyon) also loved The Beach Boys and > that's how I first got into them as well... via the much > under-appreciated record Friends. > > I have also read that Brian would sometimes listen to Blue at top > volume, over and over, for hours on end. I think it's regrettable that > they have never worked together... give a listen to Morning Morgantown > and then This Whole World and tell me that there isn't some sort of > affinity there... > > In the meantime, Brian's tour next year will feature a 35 minute SMiLE > suite, and there are reports that a 4-disc SMiLE box set is in the > offing too... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:26:21 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: In Other Words (long) Hi Emiliano, My working title, "JMDL Gift Project #2: The Sequel" was a joke. It's a terrible idea but I thought it was so bad it was funny. I forgot to add the emoticon. "Two Grey Rooms" is on the NIGHT RIDE HOME album. She "found" it in the piano and I love her piano songs the best. There's supposed to be a different version of it on the upcoming set from Geffen. I'm hoping it's an instrumental version ONLY. It existed in that state for more than a year under the working title "Speechless". All the best, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:32:56 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: sweet 16 take 2 and lets sing out Now with full JC There's an audience recording where Joni adds something telling. Paraphrased: "I've got a black limousine and an entourage." There's more but I won't spoil the joy of finding it anew for others. (Thanks, Bob Muller) Lama Now Playing: "Coiling" by Beth Patterson (hi Jenny!) Bob Murphy said, >>>And I never thought of the "gentlemen" in the song as being bodyguards for that matter. I always thought of them as lovers, or gophers, or hangers-on. She also sings "fifteen gentlemen" (I think) on "Miles of Aisles" and Joni has never needed fifteen bodyguards! (Although she might if she ever decides to drop in on a bunch of us weirdos at a Jonifest!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Larry D." Subject: Mermaid Cafe Does anybody know, is the Mermaid Cafe Joni wrote about in Carey the Mermaid Cafe in Topanga Canyon in Los Angeles? A friend of mine showed ma an article wherein the owner of this Mermaid Cafe claims it's the one in the song, but I always thought Joni's Mermaid Cafe was outside the US - the West San Fernando Valley isn't usually thought of as a "tourist town". Thanks. Larry D www.larry-d.com NP: When The Spell Is Broken, Bonnie Raitt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:22:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Mermaid Cafe Subject: Re: Joni opening lines The one I like the most : "I am on a lonely road, and I am traveling...traveling...traveling...traveling..." Linda Crawford-in beautiful middle Georgia (which is the number one state for re-forestation in the USA, but is not in middle earth sewbead@starband.net http://jerrycrawford.mystarband.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 15:02:57 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: LOL! Barbie listens to Joni too! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2951573860&category=15967 This a Barbie Penthouse, including several miniatures, including "Blue" and several other classic LP's. Go to the bottom of the ad and click on the pics to supersize them, and there it is. I guess the tracklist includes "Teeny Tiny Green" :~) Bob NP: Kings Of Leon, "Wasted Time" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:18:21 +0200 From: "Fraser Morel" Subject: Re: Numbers of Joni albums sold...? Thanks for your response Steve. It's strange that nobody knows (not that it matters really...). Cheers. Fraser >From: "StephenToogood" >To: "Fraser Morel" >CC: "Joni List" >Subject: Re: Numbers of Joni albums sold...? >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:58:09 +0100 > >I really wouldn't know how to find that information out! >What I can say is that all of Joni's albums went gold up until Mingus (DJRD >was the last) in the US I think! > >Steve > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Fraser Morel" >To: >Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:54 PM >Subject: Numbers of Joni albums sold...? > > > > Hello. I'm not really sure who this message will go to (or how many it >will > > go to!?). Anyhow - can someone please tell me how many albums Joni has >sold > > throughout her career? Thank you! > > > > Regards, > > > > Fraser (The Netherlands) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:47:23 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: In Other Words (long), now Two grey Rooms Hi, Lama! I feel relieved at your statement about that "JMDL Gift Project", cause I was beginning to doubt at your taste... and that's a severe fallout! :-) About Two Grey Rooms... I know I've not expressed correctly: Yes I Know that song, only I do no hear it too much, I don't like it as the others in NRH. I suppose it's the combination of strings and that drums that I don't like, cause I like the melody, the song itself. Ah, yes, I love piano songs too! Many thanks for your answer! Have a Wonderful time!: Emiliano, wearing his JoniFest tee-shirt after one fine sunday! NP: David Broza: Isla Mujeres - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Para: "_JMDL" ; Enviado: domingo, 14 de septiembre de 2003 17:26 Asunto: Re: In Other Words (long) > Hi Emiliano, > > My working title, "JMDL Gift Project #2: The Sequel" was a joke. It's a > terrible idea but I thought it was so bad it was funny. I forgot to add the > emoticon. > > "Two Grey Rooms" is on the NIGHT RIDE HOME album. She "found" it in the > piano and I love her piano songs the best. There's supposed to be a > different version of it on the upcoming set from Geffen. I'm hoping it's an > instrumental version ONLY. It existed in that state for more than a year > under the working title "Speechless". > > All the best, > Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:05:10 -0400 From: "Joseph S.E. Palis" Subject: RE: the carpenters and todd haynes' 'superstar'NJC Hi patrick and wally, i agree that its easy to dismiss todd haynes' approach when he did _superstar_ because it not only verges on the tacky, it *is* tacky, but eventually when one looks closely, he is indeed very very sympathetic about his characters and whatever quirks they may have -- something that wally and patrick noted more than i did. _superstar_ was actually the master's thesis of todd haynes in brown university. i still have to see his _dottie gets spanked_ and _poison_ though to fully appreciate this genius. btw, i read somewhere that in 2001, there was a poll that asked a lot of internet users who they think (in their opinion) are the top three female voices of the century. i forgot the actual ranking, but i did remember that karen carpenter was there, along with judy garland and maria callas. i wonder what others think (i should think ella fitzgerald should be up there too). interesting too how this poll also endeavoured to have internet users vote their favorite worst singer. i don't fully get this but if i understand this right, it means that people should consider a singer to be bad, then vote who they love among the worst singers... i can't explain it well...anyway, i remember seeing natalie cole and vanessa williams in the list. i forgot the other one. joseph in chapel hill (who actually have an album or two of natalie cole) Joseph S.E. Palis Department of Geography University of North Carolina Saunders Hall, CB 3220 Chapel Hill, N.C. 27599-3220 palis@email.unc.edu joepalis@yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:44:01 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: state assassination of Arafat NJC >>RAMALLAH, West Bank - Israel's vice prime minister said killing Yasser Arafat is an option for Israel, as Palestinians on Sunday took to the streets across the West Bank and Gaza Strip promising to protect their leader. Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert echoed threats by other Israeli officials who suggested last week's decision to "remove" Arafat means he might be sent into exile, further isolated at his West Bank compound or dealt with more harshly. But Olmert, considered a likely future candidate for premier, is the closest official to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to say outright he might be killed. "Arafat can no longer be a factor in what happens here," he told Israel Radio. "Expulsion is certainly one of the options, killing is also one of the options." Secretary of State Colin Powell, speaking from Baghdad on Sunday, criticized Olmert's statement: "There are many people in Israeli political life who make statements with regard to their political positions. I don't think it was helpful." << Wow, if my life was threatened in this way I would hope that Colin Powell would have something stronger to say than "I don't think it was helpful". Imagine the opposite situation: Arafat declares that killing Sharon is an option. What would Powell's words be in this case? What would Bush have to say about it? Is nobody going to use the 'terror' word here, or does it only apply in one direction? Is there nobody in the White House (or anywhere) prepared to condemn this threat for what it is, the murder of a citizen by foreign government? mike in barcelona ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 15:48:50 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: the carpenters and todd haynes' 'superstar'NJC Joseph wrote: > of internet users who they think (in their opinion) are the top three > female voices of the century. i forgot the actual ranking, but i did > remember that karen carpenter was there, along with judy garland and > maria callas. vote their favorite worst singer. natalie cole and vanessa > williams in the list. i forgot the other one. - --that would be an interesting thread. I think I might have to get to work on that one. As for poor singers, natalie cole? couldn't disagree more. Don't think she would make the top ten but she does have a beautiful voice and enjoy her very much although her tune selection is often poor, in my opinion. Vanessa Williams? Surely no giant but not a bad talent herself. Have found it interesting to hear singers in person, live, and add that into the mix along with their studio work. Remember hearing the singer Jeffery Osbourne and liking his voice but when he sang live, he flat out couldn't. Just terrible. L. Vandross' new album has some of todays 'stars' singing along with him. Beyonce Knowles has a very nice voice but would love to hear her just sing instead of doing that wierd variation with her voice that they all seem to do these days. I can't even describe it in writing but I hate it, HATE IT. A couple I have heard don't do that but they are far and few between. I have been accused of living in the past as far as music is concerned but until todays singers stop with that habit I won't be getting into them. Also bought Gladys' latest before I went to her recent concert here. That album is really underrated and it grows on me each time I hear it. She does a duet with someone named Jamie Foxx. Just awful he is, dreadful to listen to though he is fantastic at the waffling variation I described earlier. Ugh. Just my thoughts for what they are worth which we all know is subjective to write the least. mack np: nothing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:08:41 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni: In Other Words (long) This is a great project Michael thanks for taking it on. I think Smurph and Hell should be our mouth pieces as well as a dedication page by yourself since you are going thru all this effort to do the project. I like the order of release date on the songs. Best Michael on a Sunny Sunday P.S. Heads up East Coast!!!!! NP-Price of Love-John Waite > Since many people suggested that the alt. Joni lyrics which turned up on the > List this past summer should be collected and presented to Joni as a gift for > her 60th birthday, I have gathered all the works I could find and have > corresponded with most of their authors offlist. The finished book will be > sent to Joni's Canadian management representatives, sometime in October. > > Here is the list of the offerings so far: > *Boldface titles indicates a duplicate > > Assist Me > > Female Of Blood Pump And Gray Matter > > The Heedless Female Offspring Of Don Juan > > Bill > > Brought Up On Thievery > > Cease Interfering With The Sadness > > Gotham Neighborhood Day Beginning > > A Female Of Emotionalism And Intellectualism > > Duality, Presently > > I Possessed A Monarch > > Folks' Soirees > > The Syncopated Sibilance Of Daylight Savings Time Grassplots > > Ms. Earhart > > Colossal Lemon-Colored Car And Driver For Hire > > Binary Non Black Non White Digs > > Amelia > > In Gaul People Press Mouths Together On The Major Thoroughfare > > Watercourse > > Azure > > Farewell Porcine Flesh Pastry Shell Chapeau > > The Elevator Company And Marlena > > "The Last Time I Saw Richard" > > Edie And The Drug Lord > > The Washhouse Of Mary Of Gethsemane > > After Dusk, Downpour Abode > > Illuminated Christian Sabbath > > Your Room Is Blue (And So Are You!) > > Fucking Terminates > > Assist Me > > An Eldrich Youth > > Spoon And Ignite > > Saccharine Fowl > > All Aspects, At Present > > Lumberstuff > > A Wholesale Portion Of You > > Nocturnal Drive to our Abode > > Quite an impressive selection, wouldn't you say? Please let me know if I have > missed anybody's contribution. > > There are a few other issues left to settle : the title, foreward, > introduction, order of the works, and what to do about duplicate (different) > versions of the same song. Contributions from anyone on the list willing to > look at these topics are welcome. > > Title: The working title seems to be Joni: In Other Words. > Other suggestions are "What Was I Thinking?" (with a nod to Ms. Ash) or > "Listen To What I Mean, Not What I Say!" Comments? > > Foreward: My vision: We need someone to write a very short note explaining > what the book is, the sprit in which the works were written, and birthday > wishes. Comments? Takers? > > Introduction: My vision: Telling a brief story of how these works came to be, > including an edited version of the seed threads between Hell & Bob Murphy > that started the game rolling, for example see Wed, 28 May 2003 20:59:16 -0700 > (PDT). I thought we might entitle the Foreward From facetiousness to twisted > beauty or something along those lines. Comments? Takers? > > Order of the works: As it stands, the works are simply in the order in which > they appeared on the list. Do we like this idea, or would we prefer a > Joni-release-date-chronological order? Or ? > > Two versions by different people of the same song: duplicated songs are listed > in boldface. Is this a problem? > > Naturally, electronic copies of the finished product will be available to > all. > > Please reply to the Only-Joni list, no need to send me offlist copies of your > reply. Thanks. > > Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:37:34 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Mermaid Cafe Joni tells a little story about the song 'Carey' before performing it on a live CD I have (thanks Garret). It is very interesting and clarifies a few things. I love Joni's little stories. NP: Woodstock - Joni ************** Steve T amelio@sev47.fsnet.co.uk "Red is autumn green is summer Greens are turning and the sand" - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Mermaid Cafe > > Thanks to the JMDL glossary Larry, we ALL can know: > > http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/mermaidcafe.cfm > > An excerpt..."The Mermaid CafC) did exist back in 1969, when I was in Matala. > It was at the far left of the bay as you faced out to sea. There were two > cafes: Delfini s, which played that bscratchy rock and rollb, and the Mermaid > CafC), which as far as I can remember had traditional Cretan instrumentalists > playing, and in the mornings served the nearest to an English breakfast you could > get in that place at that time: bread, marmalade and instant coffee, with a > fabulous view of the bay and out to the little island where St Paul was > shipwrecked." > > Bob > > NP: Blink 182, "Anthem" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 19:54:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Eric Andersen, Garth and Maude Hudson and "The Festival Train" - vljc and loooong Today I went to see Eric Andersen at Hugh's Room in Toronto. As others on the list can attest (hi, Mags), Hughs Room is a lovely, intimate little folk club in Torontos west end that has had its share of wonderful performers. Although Ive often wanted to go, this was the first time I actually planned things well enough to make it there. I would certainly encourage anyone who lives in or around Toronto or who is planning a visit here, to check it out and to add your name to their e-mail list so you can see whos coming next. (www.hughsroom.com) Todays was an afternoon performance, which is quite unusual, but I suppose the performers may have had other gigs coming up so they couldnt do an evening show. I arrived at noon for the performance which was to begin at 1:00 p.m. (it started late) and had a beer and a nice lunch, while Eric Andersen was doing soundchecks. Around 12:30, other people were seated at my table  as it turns out, two other single mothers (was this coincidence, I wonder, or do we stand out somehow?), one of whom had her 13-year old son with her. I was chatting with one of the women who had seen the film The Festival Train at the Toronto Film Festival the night before. This promises to be a fun film  she says youre so close to Janis Joplin, you can see down her throat (now, theres a lovely picture). And it turned out that the producer and director of the film were both in the audience as well. Then a rather large woman in a wheelchair was brought in, helped down some stairs, back into her wheelchair and then up onto the stage. We had no idea who this lady was but fell to speculating about what might have happened if Janis Joplin hadnt died at all  maybe she would look like this woman, who was dressed in a large flowing tie-dye dress and wrapped in silk shawls. This lady was escorted by a white-haired bearded man in navy blue jeans and shirt and baseball cap, who looked like he could have been a janitor or a bum (except that he was clean!) It turns out that the guy is Garth Hudson of the band *THE* Band, and the large woman is his wife, Maude  they are the opening act for Eric Andersen, and theyre introduced by John Donnobee (Im not even sure if thats how his name is spelled, but its a name I recognize  I think he used to work for CHUM-FM). Garth starts playing and Maude starts singing  the set included The Shape Im in, Willow, weep for me, Blind Willie McTell and The Weight (Hi, Nikki J.) The lady has a bluesy voice and I really enjoyed her singing but I was totally mesmerized watching Garths hands fly over those keys like theyre possessed. The whole time hes playing, you get the feeling hes just making it up as he goes along and that he never plays the same way twice and he throws in little keyboard jokes all along the way. All I can think of is a time I saw someone walking two ferrets on leashes  his hands leapt and undulated across the piano keys like a couple of ferrets. And I mean that in a good way (LOL). The man is absolutely brilliant  he doesnt just play the piano, he plays WITH the piano. Garth Hudson is also so funny in such a subtle way. Hed be playing away and then hed growl a few words and then hed keep on playing. In the midst of a musical interlude in Willow, weep for me, there was a particular section where he stopped and said, I really love this part, so he played it again. And everyone cheered  he is just so phenomenally talented. Then it was Eric Andersens turn. This man is 60 years old, but he sure doesnt look like it  he looks like someone in his 40s (maybe hes had a face-lift, LOL.) He sang some songs from his new CD Beat Avenue (Salt on your skin Shape of a broken heart, Before everything changed), and some older material, including Rain falls down in Amsterdam and Trouble in Paris. He too mentioned The Festival Train and said that everyone remembers getting on, but no one remembers getting off. When he was about to sing Blue River, he told the story about how last time he played at Hughs Room, this blonde woman started coming up on stage and he was getting a bit worried  then, he realized it was Joni Mitchell (she was in town for her homage a few years ago and dropped by to see him.) I was hoping he would sing my favourite, Is it really love at all? and about three songs in, I heard the opening chords  and of course, the tears started to flow at that point (these days everything makes me cry and thank God for darkened rooms because I used to be the kind of person who would sneer at people that cry for songs, but now that Im middle-aged and somewhat disappointed, even thinking about crying is enough to make me cry.) Oh, and the wonderful Garth Hudson accompanied Mr Andersen throughout, on the accordion or on the keyboards and, once again, its utterly impossible not to watch his hands. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:11:40 +1000 From: ash Subject: oh dear...poor things > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:38:50 EDT > From: Murphycopy@aol.com > Subject: one more thing . . . njc > > I read today that Simon and Garfunkel are reuniting after 20 years for a > concert tour. I guess it's true, but then the article also said they were famous > for songs like, "The SOUND of SIlence," so who knows. By the way, they're both > 61 now. I remember them when they were about 4. > > --Bob Tasmania....... Hey they did a small segment on Australian TV at 10.55am on Sunday.......both Paul and Art looked like they had been let out of an old peoples home!! I think it was an unplugged thing? and worse they over dubbed the song they were singing from an earlier period.. which led to it looking like old folks who had not taken their medication and even worse......my 3 sprogs were watching it! So how can my offspring appreciate the older stuff if they do this? and which one am I going to leave my record collection to...when I leave this world? Will I be looking down from 'heaven'(look I could be a saint????) and see outside the myhouse....a huge garage sale and all my music being given away by the children....without a moments thought or appreaciation!!! and I get blamed for glam rock and punk/new wave as tho I started it!...well my kids will get blamed for rap and M&M tee hee LOL....... Ash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:12:25 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: A slightly altered news story... separator [TABLE NOT SHOWN] Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of x.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of x.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of story_edge.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of x.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of story_edge.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of x.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:49:34 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Re: oh dear...poor things You wrote "I think it was an unplugged thing? and worse they over dubbed the song they were singing from an earlier period." So, are you saying they lipsynched from an earlier live recording? This sounds like an innacuracy to me - Paul Simon is a true musician, has put out some really wonderful recordings (even in the last 5 years, actually), and not one to do 'overdubs' and such, TV or not. In fact, I really would wonder why they'd do that when nowadays they could just use that pitch correction thing that corrects for flat singing in the mix so artists can maintain pitch perfect performances regardless of whether they can actually sing or not (truly evil). All of our r'n'r heroes and heroines are approaching the '60 yard line' , so does that mean we should stop supporting them? Just a thought.... Deborah Harry is just shy of 60, and the new Blondie CD (not out in the states yet) is one of the most vibrant things I've heard all year. And I think that Joni Mitchell chick is getting up there...poor thing's put on weight and everything! - -Chris NP: Indigo Girls - "Gone Again" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ash" To: Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:11 PM Subject: oh dear...poor things > > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:38:50 EDT > > From: Murphycopy@aol.com > > Subject: one more thing . . . njc > > > > I read today that Simon and Garfunkel are reuniting after 20 years for a > > concert tour. I guess it's true, but then the article also said they were > famous > > for songs like, "The SOUND of SIlence," so who knows. By the way, they're > both > > 61 now. I remember them when they were about 4. > > > > --Bob > > Tasmania....... > Hey they did a small segment on Australian TV at 10.55am on > Sunday.......both Paul and Art looked like they had been let out of an old > peoples home!! > I think it was an unplugged thing? > and worse they over dubbed the song they were singing from an earlier > period.. > which led to it looking like old folks who had not taken their medication > and even worse......my 3 sprogs were watching it! > > So how can my offspring appreciate the older stuff if they do this? > and > which one am I going to leave my record collection to...when I leave this > world? > > Will I be looking down from 'heaven'(look I could be a saint????) and see > outside the myhouse....a huge garage sale and all my music being given away > by the children....without a moments thought or appreaciation!!! > > and > > I get blamed for glam rock and punk/new wave as tho I started it!...well my > kids will get blamed for rap and M&M tee hee LOL....... > Ash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:57:35 -0700 From: "kakki" Subject: Re: Mermaid Cafe Larry asked: > Does anybody know, is the Mermaid Cafe Joni wrote > about in Carey the Mermaid Cafe in Topanga Canyon in > Los Angeles? Larry - Bob is right - Joni is writing about the cafe in Crete. However, what is really funny is that the Topanga Mermaid (which is now a California Historical Site) is claiming *they* are the inspiration for Joni's song and even include some of her lyrics on their website. LOL See here http://www.themermaid.cc/history.htm Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 02:16:35 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: September 15 1979: Joni performed at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles, California. - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 02:16:35 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 15 On September 15 the following article was published: 1979: "Mitchell sings: cheers and tears" - Oakland Tribune (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=881 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:20:54 +0100 From: "StephenToogood" Subject: Re: Mermaid Cafe And just after they quote some lyrics they spell "Carey"; "Cary"! ************** Steve T amelio@sev47.fsnet.co.uk "Red is autumn green is summer Greens are turning and the sand" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "kakki" To: "Larry D." ; Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:57 AM Subject: Re: Mermaid Cafe > Larry asked: > > > Does anybody know, is the Mermaid Cafe Joni wrote > > about in Carey the Mermaid Cafe in Topanga Canyon in > > Los Angeles? > > Larry - Bob is right - Joni is writing about the cafe in Crete. However, > what is really funny is that the Topanga Mermaid (which is now a California > Historical Site) is claiming *they* are the inspiration for Joni's song and > even include some of her lyrics on their website. LOL See here > http://www.themermaid.cc/history.htm > > Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #467 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)