From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2003 #446 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 6 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 446 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - Geffen release [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Calling C.- HELP ME -NJC [Emiliano ] what works for depression. a wee bit JC [=?iso-8859-1?q?Ms=20M?= ] Re: What works for Depression?/Happy Songs (NJC) [Gary Zack ] colin njc ["Kate Bennett" ] what's that buzzing? (njc) [FredNow@aol.com] (NJC) Apparently ... ["Lori Fye" ] (NJC) Andrea Gloria Erchak ["Lori Fye" ] Re: colin njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: what's that buzzing? (njc) [Catherine McKay ] RE: colin njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: (NJC) Andrea Gloria Erchak [Catherine McKay ] Re: Rolling Stone's lack of informed writers [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - Geffen release ["Patricia O'Connor" ] Re: guitar NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: guitar NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: what works for depression. a wee bit JC [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - Geffen release ["Lama-Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Calling C.- HELP ME -NJC Hi, Kids, just an observation! Didn't that h. word in subject make posts go expelled into void, never arriving to list? Curious, don't you? Have a Wonderful time: Emiliano NP: Song for Sharon - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Bree Mcdonough" Para: ; Enviado: viernes, 05 de septiembre de 2003 23:14 Asunto: Re: Calling Chuck- HELP ME -NJC [...] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:19:43 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ms=20M?= Subject: what works for depression. a wee bit JC Hello out there. It is late and...I have been lurking but feel compelled to come out and say something, re depression and the recent topics. I am currently supporting a friend who is battling cancer, one of the reasons I have not had the desire or time to post anything. She is only a few years older than I am, still young at 46, her youngest of four kids is only 12. It seems is such a common factor now, in all our lives, to be dealing with loss and despair. (and my heart goes out to those who are grieving right now, those who have reached out to the list) But one of the emotions(if indeed emotion is the right word) to describe the feeling that I notice overwhelming me after I have dealt with the depression/ celtic twilight stuff, is loneliness. I have good friends who are like gold dust and one is a fellow Joni Tom waits fan which, if you knew the area I lived in, you would understand it to be something of a miracle that we met. But at the moment, with out boring you with personal details I find myself dealing with acceptance, this is how it "is" just me out there. Which brings me to the list, I joined because of a deep love and gratitude for Joni's gift, her music. As lama pointed out about music being a a remedy for depression and mentioned Motzart, I agree with that and more. But I also wanted to experiment with this as a way of communicating safely with like minded people, so far I have not been that prolific or that brave with my e-mails. However, I think Hejira should be available on prescrpition if that doesn't sound too glib. It has got me through so much and continues to teach me more and that is to me anyway, the sign of a true work of art, one that can be revisited again and again, especially when your pain needs to find and answering and understanding echo. What works for me as I struggle to understand my self and all that ... trying to loose the blues...and the dark greys and the really dark stuff in my head.. well I live near the sea, so I walk a lot, the stars, the sky the mountains, the scottish sense of humour, EDDIE IZZARD (any show he is fantastic) ANIMALS! but most of all POETRY. This is for you brave folk who shared your pain...in other words all of us.... "You do not have to be good. You do not have to walk on your knees for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves. Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine. Meanwhile the world goes on. Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain are moving across the landscapes, over the prairies and the deep trees, the mountains and the rivers. Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air, are heading home again. Whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination, calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting- over and over anouncing your place in the family of things" *Some of you may know this, I hope you enjoy. Love in the night from the west of Scotland Maggie.. ** NP Mad mission Patti Griffin... ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:07:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: metamorphosis and depression njc robin that link did not work...is it suppposed to be this? http://www.metamorphosis-feet.com/ with a hyphen? >For more info go to www.metamorphosis_feet.com (there is an underscore between the two words) Good luck, Robin< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:22:16 -0700 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: What works for Depression?/Happy Songs (NJC) I second that emotion Steve! The first time I ever heard Laura, our local "cool" FM radio station here in Detroit in the late '60s and early '70s was WABX. I remember pulling the car into the driveway one night with the radio on and hearing "Sweet Blindness" (Laura's version for the first time) and wondering who in the world this extraordinary voice and pianist was - and it certainly wasn't the Fifth Dimension's version, which I had heard - and then I heard the DJ say "Laura Nyro." I fell in love right then and there. Interestingly, you made me think of her song "Been On A Train" which may well be one of her saddest songs. Best regards, Gary StephenToogood wrote: >Laura Nyro does it for me! 'Sweet Blindness' has to be the happiest song >I've ever heard! I was mesmerised when I first heard it. Of course 'Poverty >Train' is one of the saddest songs I've heard. > >"Ba ba ba ba ba... > >Steve > >NP: The Dawntreader - Joni > > >From: "Catherine McKay" > >>Listening to joyful music. Some of my all-time joyful >>music(s) are: Exultate, Jubilate by Mozart; Hungry >>Heart by Bruuuuuuccce (especially when played good and >>loud while driving, driving, driving, with the windows >>open); One more colour by Jane Siberry. And there are >>others that come and go. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:23:53 -0400 From: vince Subject: NJC The Savage God ultimate best book on suicide and its role through various cultures and art and religion and poetry and human psychology is in this splendid readable brilliant survey on the subject that takes one to places and thoughts and insights one never had before As we remove from these days past of immediate grief, I highly recommend this book as one who know suicide from both side now so to speak - all I say - its like smoking, once you quit you may go 20 years without smoking but it is always an option again - a person once there has a card to play that's in the back of the deck but yet in the deck to be maybe played -- to understand those who have been in that place, those who have considered and turned back and those who have done the deed, this book will enhance your understandings in a way that is the opposite of heavy, didactic, and academic - it is a lively cultural review (takes in such things as da da) that will enlighten and entertain in culture while it surveys what really goes on in those who seek and end to life on their terms. I cannot enough recommend this book to you all at this time. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393306577/qid=1062810739/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-0548335-6091219?v=glance&s=books ignore me as usual but please get and read the book - it will forever stay with you (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:49:44 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: colin njc is colin still on this list? i emailed him privately but never got a reply... has anyone been in contact with him? ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:50:28 -0400 From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: what's that buzzing? (njc) Lori_Fye/Washington/CRESA_Partners@cresapartners.com writes: > Actually, chocolate doesn't contain caffeine. True. However, it does contain plenty of theobromine, a chemical closely related to caffeine (for chem-heads, here's some info: http://www.mrkland.com/fun/xocoatl/caffeine.htm) and a stimulant none the less, albeit more mild. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:29:16 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Apparently ... ... Andrea is "talking" to me, or something, because I just popped up out of bed and went straight to the computer. See post that will follow. Lori, who believes in such things ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:29:48 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Andrea Gloria Erchak SARATOGA SPRINGS -- Andrea Gloria Erchak of Saratoga Springs died Monday, Sept. 1, 2003, at her home. She was 49. Born on Dec. 1, 1953, in Morristown, N.J., she was the daughter of Dr. Michael and Gloria (Midroy) Erchak. She had an MA in psychology and an MA in education. She was a special education school administrator and teacher in Burlington, Vt., for 10 years prior to moving to Saratoga Springs in 1990. For the past 13 years, Andrea was a school psychologist for the city of Cohoes school system. Andrea was a loving and gentle person who touched the lives of hundreds of children. She was dedicated to their well-being and she loved her gardening and her animals. She is predeceased by her father, Michael Erchak. Survivors besides her mother, Gloria (Midroy) Erchak of Ridgewood, N.J., include a brother, Gerald M. Erchak of Greenfield Center; a sister, Donna Ann Ward of London, England; and several nieces and nephews. A funeral service for family and friends will be held at 3 p.m. on Saturday, Sept. 6, at Simone Funeral Home, 105 Lake Ave., Saratoga Springs, N.Y. Viewing will be held from 2 to 3 p.m. at the funeral home prior to the service. Memorial donations may be made to the National Foundation for Depressive Illness Inc., P.O. Box 2257, New York, NY 10116. Online remembrances can be made at www.simonefuneralhome.com - - http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm? BRD=1169&dept_id=17712&newsid=10117140&PAG=461&rfi=9 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: colin njc --- Kate Bennett wrote: > is colin still on this list? > i emailed him privately but never got a reply... > has anyone been in contact with him? > Interesting you should ask. I was just thinking about him (here we go again with that synchronicity thing!) Let's hope he's gone to France to look for a bitch! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:32:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: what's that buzzing? (njc) --- FredNow@aol.com wrote: > Lori_Fye/Washington/CRESA_Partners@cresapartners.com > writes: > > > Actually, chocolate doesn't contain caffeine. > > True. However, it does contain plenty of > theobromine, a chemical closely related to caffeine > (for chem-heads, here's some info: > http://www.mrkland.com/fun/xocoatl/caffeine.htm) and > a stimulant none the less, albeit more mild. > > -Fred Add to that - it's completely YUMMY! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:40:46 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: colin njc lol catherine, oh that colin! >Interesting you should ask. I was just thinking about him (here we go again with that synchronicity thing!) Let's hope he's gone to France to look for a bitch!< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:47:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (NJC) Andrea Gloria Erchak --- Lori Fye wrote: > SARATOGA SPRINGS -- Andrea Gloria Erchak of Saratoga > Springs died > Monday, Sept. 1, 2003, at her home. She was 49. Born > on Dec. 1, 1953, > in Morristown, N.J., she was the daughter of Dr. > Michael and Gloria > (Midroy) Erchak. ... > Memorial donations may be made to the National > Foundation for > Depressive Illness Inc., P.O. Box 2257, New York, NY > 10116. > > Online remembrances can be made at > www.simonefuneralhome.com Thanks for posting that, Lori. I've sent condolences online which seems kind of strange in a way (I've never done that before) but I hope her family and friends realize that the lives she touched span the globe. And yes, I do believe that the dead send messages. Almost invariably anywhere from a few days to as long as a year after losing someone, I've had a dream about family or close friends who have died, in which, I swear to God, they try to comfort me. That may be just my mind talking and reminding me that it's OK to move on after grief, but I prefer to believe it's the dead person making contact. And I know many people who have had similar experiences - either that they've had a dream about the person, or that they've been awake and seen or felt the person passing by, maybe touching them on the shoulder or giving some sign to say everything's all right. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:51:36 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's lack of informed writers In a message dated 9/5/03 3:01:37 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Joni in Rolling Stone They picked "All I Want" as the guitar reference tune. Pathetic. Music press like the music business is increasingly devoid of people who know anything about music. They'll put themselves out of business. >> Not as long as the majority of their readers know even less than them and don't really care. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:54:41 -0400 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - Geffen release > I suppose that is the Geffen box - Passion Play is a good name.....hmmmmmmm. > >> Apparently the title "Passion Play" has been dropped. Too bad it is a good title, but maybe "The Windfall" would be more appropriate. Patty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:04:28 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Remembering Dave In a message dated 9/5/03 3:01:37 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: magsnbrei Subject: remember Dave tuesday afternoon august 19th 2003 >> I'm sorry to hear of your loss, Mags, but your experience reminded me of something that I thought I'd share. When a close aunt of mine died several years ago, her sons informed everyone that there would be no typical funeral parlor set-up with people coming, paying last respects, etc. I was surprised and felt they owed their mother this last tradition. They DID invite all the closest relatives and friends to their house, however, where a minister from their church read some scriptures and opened up something similar to what you related; he asked all present to "remember" Aunt Dot and tell everyone how you want to remember her. Everyone took a turn, in order around the room, and we related little stories and anedotes from over many years. We laughed & we cried but this, I found, was far better than the typical funeral parlor visit where baside from a quick trip to the casket & a quick prayerbmost folks then sit around talking with others about anything BUT the dearly departed. Sorry for the long njc text but I thought it was apropos. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:06:50 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:New member from Jersey In a message dated 9/5/03 3:01:37 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: "Timothy Foldoe" Subject: newbie >> Hi and welcome, Tim; I'm just across the river so if you're ever out Long Island way, give me a shout. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: remember Dave tuesday afternoon august 19th 2003 NJC --- KJHSF@aol.com wrote: > Dear Mags, > I'm just so sorry to hear of your loss. When I was > 9, my 7 year old brother > (also named David, also a Taurus) died suddenly from > a brain aneurism. He had > a few headaches late in the summer of 1974, and died > on September 19th that > year. It is so hard to make sense of the swiftness > with which our loved ones > are gone. Life is precious...fleeting. Your post > touched me so deeply, and > please know that you are in my prayers. Thank you > for taking the time to share > some brief memories of your beloved brother with us. > > Always, > Ken Harvey Ken, how sad about your brother, and at such a young age. Somehow I didn't think little kids got such things, but then again, you never know. Brain aneurisms are one of those things I used to worry about a lot. I get a lot of headaches (tension headaches, sinus headaches, changing-weather headaches.) One day about 5 years ago, I had such a terrible headache (beyond the usual) that I was afraid it was something very different and that I was going to die, so I went to the hospital emerg convinced it was either a tumor or an aneurism. It turned out to be a massive sinus infection, but they had to give me a shot of something serious before the pain would go away. I don't worry about aneurisms anymore because there's so much that can kill you, and there's not a lot of point in dying of anxiety while you're at it. Mags, once again, I am so sorry about your Dave. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:11:27 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Those black 12 inch plastic things In a message dated 9/5/03 3:01:37 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: "ash" Subject: Re: Yes in concert and old age! PS: I've got loads of those black plastic 12 inch thingies too but I'll never bung 'em. The sleeves are so much better than those bloody eyetests they put in with the silver frisbees! >> I agree with you, Ash; I'll NEVER part with my old vinyl. Besides, some great stuff will never be rereleased on CD so the only place you'll ever hear stuff like Hudson & Ford (of Strawbs fame) will be on your turntable. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:20:18 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2003 #278 In a message dated 9/5/03 3:01:37 AM, les@jmdl.com writes: << From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Andrea I'm very saddened to hear the news about Andrea. My heart goes out to her family and friends. My own father committed suicide this same month 9 years ago. I sometimes think his troubles were that he cared too much. >> Mia, I sometimes think that the people who take their own life are sometimes less affected by OTHER people's actions and rather are too HARD on themselves when they fail in something; expecting too much from themselves or setting their goals unrealisticly high. Obviously, there are many reasons and differ from person to person but my theory coincides with what you felt about your dad. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:24:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: What works for Depression, njc --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > Then one may not want to "use" a partner as an > anti-depressant pill or a > sleeping pill. > Hmm. Interesting philosophical question you've raised. I don't believe people should "use" other people and yet, I'm also sure that, when/if they do, most people don't even recognize that they're "using' another person (with the exception of psychopaths maybe). On the other hand, with a partner you love and who loves you, it's a give and take thing, and sometimes you need them more than they need you, and sometimes it's the other way around, so, ultimately, it's probably OK. But then again, maybe that's just rationalizing. And then again, sometimes it's not good to overanalyze. Ask your wife! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:28:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Depression NJC --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Jenny you have made some very good points. > Simplistic? I don't think so! > Sometimes when our car goes on the fritz..it's > nothing major..sometimes it > as simple as the car JUST being out of gas. (or > just a belt that needs > tightening) ANd sometimes... tomorrow just *might* > be a brighter day. I think this is the reason why it's highly unlikely I would ever kill myself. I'm too afraid I might miss something! (I used to sleep with my eyes open as a kid and still do sometimes, I think - how would I know? - and I think this is why - too afraid I might miss something!) ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:39:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: guitar NJC The guy was definitely pulling my leg. He obviously gets paid commission. I got some yuks out of it too (next time, I'll smack him one though!) --- StephenToogood wrote: > What dumb-asses. My music shop wasn't much better > when I asked about altered > tunings either. I am happy with my guitar though > considering it was cheap. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Catherine McKay" > > I've been breaking a lot of guitar strings lately > > because of retuning (damn that Joni!) so I went in > to > > buy guitar strings today and mentioned using alt > > tunings. The wiseguy that sold me my last guitar > told > > me I really need another guitar - one tuned to > > standard and another to alt tunings. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:41:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: guitar NJC --- Cynthia Vickery wrote: > > < down. I > think you get a better tone and it doesn't rattle so > much. OMG > I'm giving guitar advice (you should hear me play) > LOL. >> > > Stephen - I don't play AT ALL, but here I go giving > advice. Take > this, therefore, with the hugest grain of salt > imaginable..... > > Gisele, my partner, has had great luck getting rid > of string > rattle in alt tunings by using the divided sets of > strings (aka > bluegrass sets). She still breaks plenty, but the > Elixir strings > in the divided sets seem to last longer than the > cheapies did - > now they wear out more often than they snap in two! > (see specs > here: http://www.greatstrings.com/11075.html) I would definitely take Gisele's word on that. That chick ROCKS, baby! Anyone who can play guitar like that knows what she's talking about. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:56:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: what works for depression. a wee bit JC --- Ms M wrote: > Hello out there. It is late and...I have been > lurking but > feel compelled to come out and say something, re > depression > and the recent topics. > I am currently supporting a friend who is battling > cancer, > one of the reasons I have not had the desire or time > to > post anything. She is only a few years older than I > am, > still young at 46, her youngest of four kids is only > 12. > It seems is such a common factor now, in all our > lives, to > be dealing with loss and despair. I'm sorry to hear about your friend and I hope she can overcome this. My sister has had a couple of friends, and the mother of one of her sons, go through this too. It sucks and it's so not fair. But I also wanted to experiment with > this as > a way of communicating safely with like minded > people, so > far I have not been that prolific or that brave with > my > e-mails. Your posts are always welcome, so feel free to chime in whenever you want. > However, I think Hejira should be > available on > prescrpition if that doesn't sound too glib. It has > got me > through so much and continues to teach me more and > that is > to me anyway, the sign of a true work of art, one > that can > be revisited again and again, especially when your > pain > needs to find and answering and understanding echo. I second that, especially if my drug plan will pay - music hath charms to soothe the savage breast and CDs are definitely cheaper than Rx drugs, so it sounds like one of those win/win situations to me. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:59:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Remembering Dave --- PassScribe@aol.com wrote: When a close > aunt of mine died several > years ago, her sons informed everyone that there > would be no typical funeral > parlor set-up with people coming, paying last > respects, etc. I was surprised and > felt they owed their mother this last tradition. > They DID invite all the closest relatives and > friends to their house, > however, where a minister from their church read > some scriptures and opened up > something similar to what you related; he asked all > present to "remember" Aunt > Dot and tell everyone how you want to remember her. > Everyone took a turn, in > order around the room, and we related little stories > and anedotes from over many > years. We laughed & we cried but this, I found, was > far better than the > typical funeral parlor visit where baside from a > quick trip to the casket & a > quick prayerbmost folks then sit around talking > with others about anything BUT the > dearly departed. I like that. When I croak, that's what I want. None of this funeral home crap. People need to laugh as well as cry, and have some good food and drink while they're at it. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:56:31 -0400 From: "Lama-Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - Geffen release Hmmm. This is a sure sign that our Joan is involved in the project: Working titles are being discarded. A marketing team would shoot themselves in the foot like that. That's Joni's touch. Lama > Bryan > Apparently the title "Passion Play" has been dropped. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:04:50 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester - and another MM(njc) Interesting. My Aunt Rose worked at Stambaugh's in Youngstown with Maureen right before she got famous. Somewhere I have an autographed 45 of The Morning After. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:40:54 -0400 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best joni opening lines --NJC Hey there, good lookin'. Can I buy you a car? - --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:47:01 -0400 From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2003 #444 - Geffen release Bryan writes: << Apparently the title "Passion Play" has been dropped. >> That reminds me of another dropped title, "Swan Song," the original title for T'log. - --Bob, thinking maybe she isn't done with music if she changed the name ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:49:31 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Those black 12 inch plastic things njc i too have two or three 12-inch plastic things but they didn't have any sleeves when i bought them... should i complain at the adult store??? wally ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:53:28 -0400 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: Those black 12 inch plastic things njc > i too have two or three 12-inch plastic things but they didn't have any > sleeves when i bought them... should i complain at the adult store??? > wally You must be a Steely Dan fan. Patty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:13:34 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: September 6 1978: Joni attended the Bread and Roses Festival and watches the action from backstage. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Bread78JoniDance1.html - ---- For a comprehensive reference to Joni's appearances, consult Joni Mitchell ~ A Chronology of Appearances: http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:13:34 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: September 6 On September 6 the following articles were published: 1979: "Joni Mitchell Makes Mingus Sing" - Down Beat (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=95 1979: "The Babe in Bopperland and the Great Jazz Composer" - Rolling Stone (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=301 1979: "Woodstock's Child Returns as Jazz Baby" - Monday Magazine (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=188 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2003 #446 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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